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british forces turn over command to the afghan army with the american military now moving into an advisory role. but in a fight against islamic state, there are now 1,700 troops in iraq. sadly, a second u.s. serviceman has didsed in the military operations against isis. meanwhile, 101st airborne division is in liberia to combat the deadly outbreak of ebola. we'll talk to the congressman from kentucky. and we'll bring you a powerful story in this month's documentary series wounded, the battle back home produced in part by the wounded warrior project. but now, to my conversation with senator elizabeth warren we discussed a threat of isis and the midterm elections. but first, we talk about the pearls of payday loans that so many service members take out just to make ends meet. >> thank you so much for joining us in "taking the hill." >> so glad to be here. >> ma'am, one in ten troops have

taken out the high-interest loans. as a former army officer, i saw so many soldiers and their families get crushed by the predatory lenders. there's even a case where there's a south carolina service member who took out a $1,600 loan and had to pay back over $15,000. >> yep. >> now, you've been a fierce consumer advocate for the military families. you know where does your passion come from? >> you know. all three of my brothers served in the military. my oldest brother was career military. 288 combat missions in vietnam. and i learned early on how much our service members sacrifice. how much their families sacrifice to keep the rest of us safe. i also learned how tough and resources and smart they are. but when these financial predators come after them i feel ashamed for the rest of us. this isn't how we should be

treating our military members. and the fact that we permit this to go on is an outrage. and so, i am glad to see that we are finally trying to take some steps to shut that down and to say that our military families can play on a level playing field and not have to worry about getting cheated when they get into a little financial trouble. >> yeah. for a lot of these soldiers ma'am, as you know it could affect their security clearance and make them nondeployable. so it affects their career. said that the cfpb would never happen. in fact, you know they were spending about $1 million a day lobbying against it and i can attest to it. i voted for it. can you tell us how it protects military families? >> so actually i want to start by saying patrick, you're exactly right. they said it would never happen. the big banks were dead set against it. spend $1 million a day lobbying

against it for over a year. but it was people like you -- you really stood up you fought for this little consumer agency. and the basic idea behind it was that we would have somebody who was on the consumer side not just on the side of the biggest banks. we wanted somebody on our side. and one of the pieces that was most critical to doing this was an office of service member affairs. so when the president of the united states asked me to set up the bureau one of the very first hires i made was for holly petraeus, who has a long military background you know married to general petraeus her dad and her grand dad and great grand dad had all been career military. her son is active duty military. holly was the one who set up the office of service member affairs and really has been a tough advocate in there on behalf of service members calling out when

people are getting cheated and better yet, the agency has the muscle to force some of these lenders to give money back when they've cheated families. and so under holly's leadership leadership the consumer agency has already forced some of the biggest financial companies in this country to return more than -- $150 million to service members they cheated. so we got a good agency out there. it's tough and it's working on behalf of military families. >> yeah. and that's real money when you consider, you know, private first class in the army makes about $22,000 a year. >> no kidding. and you know it's the reminder. they've been cheated on car loans, on payday loans, mortgages. and now they've got an advocate at the consumer agency who comes back and says wait a minute let me investigate this.

and when people have been cheated, forcing the companies to return the money. >> yeah. she's doing a great job. we try to take credit for her because she's a graduate in pennsylvania. and i served my first post 9/11 deployment with her husband. ma'am, the military lending act. that caps interest rates for our troops and their families at 36% 36%. but as you know there's been loopholes that have been exploit exploited time and time again. can you tell us what's happening right now with the proposed d.o.d. regulations trying to close these loopholes and every day families across america can do to stop that from being exploit exploited? >> yep. so holly has been working with the department of defense who has the legal authorization to change the rules. and here's the good news. the department of defense has figured out. you're right. a bunch of loopholes here. for example, the original rules that the department of defense put out said you couldn't charge more than 36% on a loan that was 90 days or shorter. well, you can guess what happened. some really unscrupulous lenders

started doing 91-day loans. so now the department of defense is coming back and they're carefully trying to stitch up those loopholes so there is some basic protection for our military families. but the number one thing is if a family feels like they've been cheated. if a service member thinks someone's been engaging in shoddy practices that aren't right, they should get in touch with the consumer financial protection bureau. or consumer agency.gov. go online and file a complaint. get in holly's database talk with the folks at the consumer agency. it's a great group, and what it's doing is it's getting stronger every day by working with military families and making all of the voices heard. >> yeah. and that's a lot of the victims. i know there's another movement with the consumer financial americans for financial reform. >> yep.

>> let me switch gears to the middle east real quick. >> sure. >> let's talk about what's going on, obviously, in syria and iraq. i know you voted against the president's plan to arm the sunni syrian rebels. what's your take what's going on with isis in iraq and syria right now? and do you agree with the president's approach? >> so i think that isis poses a real threat. a threat to the countries that are in the region, a threat to the rest of the world. and i think we've got to respond in a comprehensive way to end that threat. but i was not convinced that the idea of trying to vet and then train and arm a handful of syrian rebels was really the right way to go about this. i voted against that. but i do want to give the president credit, i think he's trying to build a coalition to push back against isis. and i think it's coalition that is critical here. we need the countries that are

in the region to help take a leadership position. i think that's critical to having success here. >> yeah. i know we've had five arab states that have done strikes against ayeisis. we'll see how it plays out. last question the midterms are a little bit over a week away. and you've helped democrats across the country. helped 26 democrats running for the senate. you've helped great candidates in massachusetts. >> yep. >> but 2016 is right around the corner. and i know you've said you're not running for president, but you've been quoted this week saying that you never can say no and there's exciting doors or amazing doors that could open. could one of those doors maybe be at 1,600 pennsylvania avenue and do you feel sometimes with your supporters who put so much faith in you because you're fighting for their values you might owe it to them to go on the national stage? >> i'm not running for

president, but i am out here fighting for our values. and i feel really blessed to have this opportunity to stand up along so many people who are really fighting just to help make this country stronger. and one of them is seth molten. he's a young iraq war veteran here in massachusetts, this is his first campaign. i think he's going to make it and i think he's going to be a terrific addition to the united states congress. help us hear another voice. help us hear from another generation. but mostly what this is about for all of us for seth for me and for the people who are running right now is trying to make sure that we have a country that creates opportunities. not just for some of our kids but for all of our kids. a country that truly believes every single day in a level playing field for all of us. >> well ma'am, thank you so much for all that you do.

thank you for your service to our country, for your three brothers who are veterans including the vietnam veteran and hopefully see you on "taking the hill" very soon. >> thank you. and thank you for all you do, patrick. >> thanks, ma'am. coming up what are u.s. troops doing in west africa to fight ebola? and what are the precautions against them coming down with the devastating illness. and #takingthehill. this is where i met your grandpa. right under this tree. ♪ (man) some things are worth holding onto. they're hugging the tree. (man) that's why we got a subaru. or was it that tree? (man) introducing the all-new subaru outback. love. it's what makes a subaru a subaru. just tell us your budget and the "name your price" tool helps you find a whole range of coverages. no one else gives you options like that. [voice echoing] no one at all!

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kentucky congressman john yarmoth joins us. thanks so much for joining us here on "taking the hill." >> great to be with you. >> tell us what would those troops going to west africa. what would they be doing over there? >> well actually we have two units deployed. one from ft. campbell as you mentioned the 101st airborne. and they are actually in those countries where they are experiencing ebola and they are building the infrastructure that's helping those countries cope with the patient load. they're building new hospital beds and new clinics and so forth. then we have the kentucky air national guard from my district and they're in senegal. and they've set up, basically, the airway capacity for all the 101st troops and the other troops who are coming to that region to land and so forth. they've got the runways and the air traffic controllers and so forth. two units from kentucky very

much engaged. and of course, we're very, very proud of the work they're doing. >> you should be proud. it's interesting. we always say in the military when the president calls 911, it's the 101st airborne division that responds. >> absolutely. >> let's talk about the midterm elections, they're just nine days away and breaking news from your home state there. lexington herald leader endorsed grimes over mitch mcconnell. saying she would build a more secure future for kentucky and the nation. what's your reaction to this and the reaction on the ground. >> i was excited to hear it. my hometown paper also endorsed her this morning. and i think those things could be very, very important. because what's happened in kentucky is people are basically done with mitch mcconnell. most people are fed up with them. they don't want to vote for him. a lot of people hesitated to be for alison lundgren-grimes because they weren't sure if she was ready. but i think these types of

endorsements where they lay out the case for both of them will be a very very pivotal event in the primaries. in the elections. right now we've got basically an even race her internal polling shows her up by one, the latest survey usa poll we call a bluegrass poll in kentucky showed him. showed mitch up by one. but also that the undecideds are tending to move toward her. i think, again, these endorsements will help because people want to vote for somebody other than mitch mcconnell. they just quite weren't quite sure that allison was the one. i think they're getting very comfortable with her now. and i look for really astounding victory next tuesday. >> yeah. and i thought it was interesting, mitch mcconnell put over $1 million of his own money into that race. >> yes. >> both clintons have been to kentucky in recent weeks campaigning for grimes. how important in this type of race is important to the democratic party and what kind of symbol does it show to the

people in kentucky this is a top-tier race? >> well, you know, kentucky loves to get attention. and, unfortunately, the last president -- the last few presidential elections we haven't gotten much attention. both candidates have assumed the state was going to be republican. but president clinton carried kentucky both times. hillary clinton is very, very popular here, as well. so their presence has generated a great deal of excitement. they're both coming back this week is my understanding. and when they show up it's several thousand people who come to see them and cheer on alison. when hillary was here a week and a half ago it was 4,500 people came to the rally to see her and to see alison. and again, it accentuates the momentum. and i think that's a very very important part of campaigns as you well know, patrick. the public gets a sense of which candidate has the momentum. and sometimes that moves votes. >> yeah. and no doubt she's closing

really strong here in the last nine days. congressman, thank you so much for joining us on "taking the hill." look forward to seeing you soon. how many congressional candidates leave out military honors during their campaigns? we introduce you to one next in this month's installment of "we salute you." they're still after me. get to the terminal across town. are all the green lights you? no. it's called grid iq. the 4:51 is leaving at 4:51. ♪

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to see everyone doing well. we need to remember a warrior sacrifice is lifelong. whatever they lost on the battlefield. whether it was friends, whether it was an injury, physical capacity. whether they had a mental wound they gave something that's going to be with them for their life and we need to always be cognizant of that. >> when i came to, i didn't know where i was. i tried to speak, i had this tube in my mouth that went in the center of my chest and my arms are strapped to the sides of the bed. i looked down and i saw my leg was cut off. my last thoughts were -- i actually thought i was captured.

my body was pumped with so many pain meds. i had no idea i was state side in bethesda hospital. it was the roughest day of my life. when i wake up and i look down just to put on my leg every day that's my reminder. every day of my life. i ask myself why did i get spared? i don't know. i really don't know. i'm very lucky that i'm here.

i have three amazing boys. one don't get to see as much. going to high school it's pretty awesome to see my little guy grow. and, you know i have finnigan. he's 13 months right now. and i have sullivan who is 3 months. >> i am a teacher. so during the school year jamel's with the boys. i think he loves the stay at home dad role. he does a much better job than i could. anything that little kids want to do, he wants to do with them. and enjoys it probably more. >> i want to be close to my kids. only little until a certain age. and i just don't want to miss out on the most important years of their life. i want them to have things i didn't have when i grew up.

i was born in new york my grandparents, raised me my brother and my sister. my grandfather worked as a custodian for the board of education. i lived in the projects for a while and you know i've seen life in different ways. and you just got to have that drive and determination to say, you know what i want something better for my life. i want something better for my family, you know. and that's what i wanted. i was actually one of my friends in the projects down in the lower east side. we're watching tv and we had heard something happening in the financial district. we ran out to the window and looked to go see if we could see it and we saw when the second plane hit. i remember seeing big light, fire and a lot of smoke, and seeing everybody from wall street walking down.

and everybody had all this soot and debris on them. i remember saying what's going on? what's going on? oh, man. all the police officers fire department, medical teams and everybody running straight to the building helping the wounded wounded. it was just amazing seeing how after we had went through that traumatic, horrific event came together. i felt i should have been doing something more than just sitting behind the tv set. but i was a kid, there's nothing much i can do. joining the military was me running to my building. that's where i found my purpose. i actually left to go to boot camp in 2002.

it was a great feeling. i felt like i was up there with the police officers and mercy responders. you know, i was one of the peers. if i was going to be a marine i was going to really be a marine. i didn't want to just sit behind a desk all day. i wanted the adventure, the journey. and that's what i got. i only had one deployment and that was to iraq. and as soon as we got off the plane, what do you hear? gunfire going off. everybody's screaming incoming, incoming. it was just like here we go. no time to think. just get in position, do what we have to do. that day, we lost a marine. mortar attack. so that was a wake-up call. we're going out on these convoys every day. and we'd go in and ask questions questions. have you seen anything? have you heard anything? if there was anybody sick in the village or kids hurt we'd give

them a little medical attention. it was nice to see a lot of the young kids just going from town to town. kids are kids, you know. before we went over to the country, we had a briefing. they were introducing us to these new things ieds improvised explosive devices. different scenarios that things they could bake an ied out of. a stuffed animal on the side of the road or as small as a soda can. that's what's so scary about it. you hear the gun shots. you retaliate and shoot back. a opposed to this you don't know they're there. we were out there total of 8 months, 11 days. we were coming home the next day. the next day, we were coming state side. coming home. we were out 4 miles away from

the patrol. and across the street -- that's it. sends me flying out 35 feet in the air and i land in a crater in which the bomb blew up. the whole area's just full of smoke and debris. you could barely see but you could hear a lot of noise. screaming, gunfire going off. my ears were ringing very loud. dirt, debris, gunfire. one of the marines pulled me out of harm's way. my legs were fish tailing when he pulled me. i couldn't feel anything from the waist down. i remember holding my sergeant major's hand through the whole ordeal. and that was it. that was the last thing i could remember. when i actually woke up it was two weeks later. and bethesda hospital. first thing i do is ask what happened to my guys?

what's going on? and they explained to me that my buddies died. christopher was from illinois. wonderful family. he was pretty amazing. he'd give you the shirt off his back. harry sween from jersey, he was very smart. these guys already knew what to expect. they were over there for the invasion. and jason redford, amazing guy. amazing guy. amazing guys. when i was at the hospital i thought i was going to confined to a wheelchair for the rest of my life. my oldest son jamel was around 6 years old. i was supposed to be this big hero to him and the hero's laying in the bed wounded, you know, in pain.

my leg's cut off. got scars, staples, stitches. i mean you name it, i had it. losing my brothers and my body the way it is now you know, the pressure started to kick in and i started taking a lot of the pain pills, depression pills, and nothing really helped. i started getting the nightmares and the flashbacks. and what do you do, you know? so that's why i turned to alcohol. every day, it went through my mind. why am i still here? did i have thoughts of suicide or anything like that? of course i did. stupid enough to tell you no. those things did go through my mind. but my son, my oldest he always came to lay with me in the bed. always said, daddy, i love you.

and i just didn't want him to have to live through something like that. you know. it's my little guy, you know. >> in a moment how jamel traveled the road to recovery and renewal. you're watching "taking the hill."

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the exclusive.. confident retirement approach. now you and your ameripise advisor can get the real answers you need. well, knowing gives you confidence. start building your confident retirement today. welcome back to "taking the hill." in the final installment of "wounded," the battle back home. jamel's road to recovery. >> hey, what's going on. >> how are you? >> good. i'm doing good. i'm hear to see al today. >> i'm sure he's expecting you. >> how are you doing? >> good? >> what do you think? >> looks great, man. >> this place is huge.

>> still in a wheelchair, coming back to new york. he literally couldn't go into his house. the housing building where he lived wasn't handicap accessible. we would get him a hotel room at the hilton at midtown so he could visit his wife and child. >> it was a rough time when i came back. i wasn't myself. i wasn't the person who i was before. and i don't really talk about it as much but i was homeless for a while. and the wounded warrior project. got me back into doing things and invited into events. it's just a comradery kind of thing. >> you know this guy is up here, right? come on. give us your autograph. >> that's got to be going back what? five, six years? >> on a boat, went to liberty, that was it man, a great day. >> i think the secret to our success and how we've grown, we

have an amazing group of people trying to assist this population. and here was jamel who had basically gone through that and come through it. what better staff member to bring onboard. >> i was given the title of area outreach coordinator. we would call veterans to make sure they were okay and if they needed anything and if they needed help, we had programs that helped with different situations and things. service members would look at me and say, well, you definitely do know what you're talking about. missing a leg, i was in combat. it's that connection. it's that connection that nobody else would understand from the outside. from where it started and where it's at now. i still can't believe how huge it is. >> the office you were at was probably smaller than this room here, right? >> exactly. >> you walked in and there were just four desks. >> and the bathroom was in the back. >> storage -- >> and there were little shelves. >> yeah.

>> good old days. >> one of those old prewar buildings. the good old days. >> the courage i've seen in jamel after the injury. i saw how he dealt with his injury and hardships physically and emotionally. and as a true marine he was never woe is me. he would figure out which direction he needed to move off and he did. he's had ups and downs, but he's an example of what you can do. what you can be if you keep moving forward, persevere. >> who is that? mama? look. who's coming? >> i met my wife during the time i was employed at the wounded

warrior project. we've been married for five amazing years. >> jamel and i met at a fundraiser. and he mentioned to me oh, i walk really well, don't i? yeah. i had no idea he was a veteran or wounded veteran for that matter. and something told me to google him. and that's how i found out he was a wounded veteran. so we didn't talk about it then. and i think that's pretty important because it's not the first title that comes to his mind. he's a proud marine, but not necessarily wounded. >> let's get a snack. you need help? >> his injuries are just part of our every day life. i'm quick to ask, do you need help, please grab a shoulder, and we do it in a way where it doesn't really look like he's being helped just looks like he's holding on to me. but he's very independent. hep doesn't depend on me to get through his day.

>> i never thought i'd move out of new york city, but just an easy way of life living up here. it's not that go go go. it's just very therapeutic. and i think i needed that in my life. i believe that anybody goes to war, you come back, you've changed. i didn't realize i had ptsd. i was always denying things and i was wrong. i would just get mad for the littlest things you know something being out of place. people would be very loud large crowds. sometimes i had to take a deep breath and look at my wife. i think she really keeps me calm. that's my rock man. that's -- you've got that person to fall back on. >> i am so grateful that jamel has a great support system around him in addition to myself. he feels safe talking to other military men and women because they understand what he's been through. i think that's what the wounded

warrior project has really done for our family and for him. it's good for all of us. jamel looks at every day differently than the rest of us. i think that is a result of what's happened to him. >> there were five guys in my vehicle and three of those marines died instantaneously. i'm very lucky that i'm still alive. there's not a day that goes by we should take for granted that we're here. and these guys should always be in our memory. >> a couple days?

>> all right. >> my buddy's gravestone. something patriotic. ♪ >> it's kind of hard to lift the phone and to call that parent

you know. because me being in the vehicle with their child, am i like that reminder of the accident? why am i still living? >> hey. >> jamel. how are you? >> all right, brother. how are you? >> long time no see. >> it's been forever. >> give you a big hug. >> it's been nine years since i've seen jamel. and it's very comfortable. like i've known him forever. i think it's the connection of the marines. the marines that were with chris. they have that connection. kind of is timeless. never goes away. chris was a good looking guy. he liked to party. he liked to drink his beer. but he also was a serious guy.

when he first told me he was going to the marines, i said i hope you take that desk job. he says desk job. that's not what marines do. no desk job. i never thought iraq was going to happen. i thought he was going to do his four years and come home. and that didn't happen. >> that's our youngest one. >> i'm looking right. looks just like him. >> he looks just like christopher. >> that's so crazy. i know. >> like spitting image. >> thank you for letting me come here today. >> of course. >> it's great the way we met. >> i was in the wheelchair. >> ran over and helped me come

through the door. it was funny. it was hilarious, and i came and hung out on the sofa and it was a lot of other -- chris's friends. >> we feel like we are a marine family. it never ends. there is always a marine ready to help. a couple of them said we'll drop everything. come over here if you need help. i found that very moving. touching. >> that's the way it is. it's like a fraternity for life. >> like brothers. >> it's a brotherhood. >> do you still think about the days in iraq? >> i do. >> but you're still here. we wish chris were here, too. >> i do, too. >> this is the video his friend made when they went to vegas. >> vegas, baby!

>> january 31. there was a knock on the door. when the three marines were there i knew what it meant. i just broke down. i must have cried for an hour straight saying no more chris. it took me a long long time to get over it. even now. i tried to keep his memory alive. sometimes i get down on myself. what if they didn't go on that patrol? what if he stayed? he would have been home. i guess that's fate. sometimes you believe in fate. sometimes you fight it. >> thank you. that was very thoughtful of you. >> thank you. >> seeing jamal is like having a part of chris, you know with

me. they were in combat together. they lived together. they ate together. so part of chris. >> i think about the what-ifs. would they be married? have kids? it's all been just taken away. i'm living for these guys today. that's the way i feel. i'm honored to have had the chance to know them and serve with them. those guys are my heroes. i'm happy to have served the country and no regrets doing it. no regrets.

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