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in west africa. that nurse is casey hick ox who will be transported to maine where they will be determined by state laws. she is the center over growing controversy over whether they go too far. you will hear from a friend of hers in a few minutes. all this as new york city's first ebola victim remains in man at that time an. he is in serious, but stable condition. over the weekend that doctor, craig spencer received a blood plasma donation from an ebola survivor herself. >> i feel privileged i was able to give him that transfusion and praying that he is recovering and doing better. >> doctors are caring for a 5-year-old child with what they call ebola-like symptoms. here is video of the child being transferred. this is not an ebola case though
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that child is being tested. in washington state this hour, a moment of silence will be held at the high school outside seattle where a student opened fire killing two and wounding four others. that second student died as a result of her injuries. jia soriano. she was 14 years old. jailen fryburg opened fire killing another girl before fatally shooting himself. upsetting story there. in florida, today is the first day of jury selection in the trial of one of four florida a&m students charged in the death of a fellow marching band member. he died allegedly as a result of hazing. he was badly beaten after a football game on a school bus. it was decided that students whose trials were slated to begin will be tried in april. 15 others were originally charged in the case and most of those were settled.
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it shines a troubling spotlight on hazing. let's look at today's top story. state-mandated ebola quarantines. >> i understand people feel like they have a risk and i think we can have a conversation about what the measures might look like. it is unacceptable and feel like my basic human rights have been violated. they driven by fear or facts. she is the first person quarantined that calls for travelers to be turning after returning for guinea, sierra leon and liberia. the four states are new york, new jersey, illinois, and florida. the governors of the states say the move is necessary to protect the public. >> it's the government's job to
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protect the safety and health of our citizens. we have taken this action and i absolutely have no second thoughts about it. >> it should be voluntary and mandatory tow protect the public health. the director recommended it and accepted his recommendation. >> some people will say we are being coo cautious. >> we have individuals coming from the infected areas. >> a different approach from virginia. that will make contact coming from the same countries. all must monitor themselves for 21 days. all have to agree to stay home for the period and get a daily visit. not everyone agrees with the quarantine policies. they simply go too far? kristin is outside the hospital where casey hick ox is being
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held. thank, kristin. why is she being moved there? >> still no sign of her today. at some point, she will be leaving the hospital here. that after a reversal by the state on the 21-day quarantine. state officials said she hasn't had any symptoms in the past 24 hours and she tested negative and after consulting with them, they decided to grand her request to leave after she threatened to sue, saying it was a violation of her civil rights to keep her here. she requested transport to maine. we are told that she will travel the private car and not on public transportation and commercial aircraft. when she gets to maine, that state decides what happens. >> we are learning more about
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the woman, casey hick ox. she said she is not a loud mouth activist, but understands the contagiousness of the virus and knows she has to come back and be subjected to a policy that is not based on anything other than fear. here's what chris christie said. thank you so much for taking the time to join us. first of all, you know casey. have you heard about her condition and how she is doing? >> i know that she is healthy and a symptomatic and feeling fine physically regarding the ebola symptoms. she worked with ebola victims and had contact with family. she is part of what she is doing is educating the public where she is at where there is the outbreaks of ebola.
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so when she and people know she is not infectious. >> she is physically feeling fine. this is emotionally taxing. she believes her human rights are being violated. is there evidence of that? >> you know, any public health measure is a balance between someone's individual rights versus the population measures. i don't know. i can't really weigh in on human rights violation. i think it was extreme to say to someone that it feels good who knows all about the infectiousness of ebola and her symptoms and where she is at in
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the contagiousness realm. she was saying i will be here for 21 days. no matter whether i'm contagious or not. >> we are looking at pictures in the quarantine chamber. is it a problem that these are political officials rather than medical doctors making these calls about who to quarantine? >> exactly. it's a health decision that should be made. this is early in this and we have to decide where they are coming from. she will be able to go home by private car. they want to have the 21-day quarantine for her to be able to go home and do it there and be visited twice a day. i think that is handily rather
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than her being stuck in this hospital unit. >> doctor, thanks for your time. our thoughts are with casey right now. she is raising this question that states are grappling with right now. our chris jansing is there and she asked about u.s. health workers treating the patients. >> we have to find the balance between addressing the fears and encouraging and incentivizing the heroes. these workers are going into the hot zone. they are american heroes. we have to valorize and that and incentivize that while ensuring the american people feel safe. >> heroes. these health workers are risk everything to fight the outbreak
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and protect our country from it. is that something that is right? a professor at the university of north carolina. he committed his to helping treat and fight ebola. you have a personal take on this and give us a sense of what that is like on a personal level. are they using vacation time and does your boss support it? >> most of the people going overseas up until now have been volunteers or using vacation time. and imprisoning the nurse who took the vacation time is really
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terrible. the voll eegs of mine are going from. >> some people are upset that doctor spencer didn't quarantine himself immediately. he waited until he showed symptoms. you are not contagious until you are symptomatic. did he make the right call? >> there is absolutely no chance of becoming infected when someone is not having symptoms. in fact if you tried to do a sensitive test once you get symptoms within the 50 days, sometimes that is negative for the virus and the blood. the data for doctors without borders they had 700 people from europe and australiaia and the united states who have flown back after working in the high risk areas and no secondary patients have become infected. they have only had three health
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care workers who have become infected. that was from working in the high risk areas. no family members, no colleagues and no one on airplanes, public transportation and look at the duncan family in dallas. he was in a small apartment, deadly ill. he knows his fiance and nieces and nephews and friends and cousins were there. none became infected. it is a deadly virus to health care workers, but to the general population and certainly in the united states. >> a lot of reason not to be afraid. the last question, you heard him worry about whether he would discourage other volunteers who are so so injury. are you worried about that? >> i am worried that i will be stuck over there. they have been champing at the
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bit to shut down all air traffic. remember the best success is to attack the problem. if we wait, we will shut our borders and not let isis in. they will get in. similarly with ebola. you have got to solve the problem over there. >> doctor, appreciate your insights on this. i want to go to the white house briefing where they are addressing this ebola response question right now. take a listen, everybody. >> strictly related to health care workers and not just returning and not just people who were returning from the region. the distinction is important because it continues to be the view of this administration that stopping this outbreak is important to our national security and the safety and health of american citizens. as we said many, many times, the likelihood of a widespread
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outbreak in this country of ebola is exceedingly low. the only way to entirely eliminate that risk is to stop this outbreak in its tracks. in order to succeed in stopping this outbreak in west africa, we are going to need doctors and nurses traveling to west africa to treat ebola patients. sadly, tragically even, this ebola outbreak in west africa occurred in countries that have little to no modern medical infrastructure. that is the reason that we have seen this ebola outbreak spiral so quickly. in a way that claimed so many lives. whatever policies are put in place in this country to protect the american public do not serve as a disincentive to doctors and nurses from this country volunteering to travel to west
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africa to treat ebola patients. it reflects a commitment from a reflection of a generosity and spirit and concern for common humanity worthy of praise. it also reflects a commitment to the ideal that stopping the ebola outbreak in west africa is the only way to eliminate the risk to the people from the ebola virus. what you will -- i guess this is the last thing i want to say. you will hear from them later today additional information about quite lines that they believe should be in place to they are returning from that. we will have additional guidelines from cdc and they will make that announcement. ultimately it's the
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responsibility. the authority is with state and local officials to make decisions about how best to protect the citizens. >> doesn't that create a patch work or policies that confusion the public and encourage people to gain the system and lie about what they encountered when they have been in west africa when you don't have an overarching federal policy that moves? >> well, we were talking about this earlier. anticipating your question. in some ways you can take this up with james madison. states are given significant authority for governing their constituents. it is certainly true when it comes to public safety and public health. at the same time i think that you have seen a strong working happy between states across the country and the federal government. what we believe is important and
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i think this is a duty shared by governors and local officials across the country, these kinds of policies should be driven by science. and the best scientific advice that is available. we have experts at the centers for disease control and hhs that have been dealing with ebola outbreaks for decades now. there is a body of science and research that should guide the implementation of the policies. we will work closely with states and localities to do that. the best and most recent piece of evidence will illustrate this ongoing coordination. this morning's announcement that casey hick ox, the nurse who returned from west africa will be discharged from the hospital in new jersey and will be traveling via private transportation to her home in maine. >> let's take the case of the pentagon. you have talked about how the administration has been aware and acted on the ebola outbreak
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since march. and then shouldn't this policy be in place when you decided to send troops to west africa and what appears to be being made up on the fly? >> the commitment of department of defense resources was something that the president announced last month. this is an ongoing effort by the department of defense to use their expertise in west africa to assist those first responders who were actually treating ebola patients. we have been clear that the role american military will not be to render assistance to the people of west africa. instead it will be the logistical expertise of the american military that will be deployed to assist the doctors
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and nurses and other experts from around the world who are responding to this urgent situation. that was a commitment made by the president about a month or so ago. that is we are already seeing important work being done in west africa by our american military. >> that is sending a mixed message about the needs for these policies. >> we believe that the and if it wasn't clear before, the department has not been settled and implemented yet. they will ultimately -- that will be a decision that is
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driven by a variety of factors. what we are -- what this administration is working to do is coordinate with state and local officials to put in place the policies that scientific experts tell us are in the best interests of the american people. that's what we believe should guide the policy decisions made in the country. >> i'm confused because we have known about this outbreak for sometime and we are going to hear as you say guidelines from protocols for returning medical workers which we know they were there. and the pentagon too in the case of these people who are being held or semi quarantined in italy. why weren't these decisions made earlier? >> what this reflects is a commitment by this administration to review the guidelines in place to make sure that they reflect what is injury to the american people. we should not lose sight of
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whatever guidelines put in place should not unduly burden the health care workers who are operating in west africa. very difficult situations. they are putting themselves at risk to try to meet the needs of other people. that is a remarkable show of charity. is also is an effort that is clearly in the best interest of the american people. the only way to entirely eliminate the risk from ebola to the american people is to stop this outbreak in west africa. american citizens are using their own medical expertise in pursuit of that goal. these individuals are heroes. they are a commitment to their common man and to their country as that should be respected. we believe we can show them the respect we have earned while protecting the american people.
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>> it's reviewing how they suddenlied the series of problems and the ignition witches. did the white house conduct this investigation and are they satisfied with the performance? >> roberta, i can tell you that they have been aggressive in responding to the situation related to a defective air bag. they have ought to move forward to prosect the american people once they had data to indicate action was needed. there have been some issues that have cropped up around the announcement of the safety advisory last week. and the department of transportation review that commenced is the right step to make sure that everyone is focused on learning for this situation and strengthening the response. >> white house press secretary josh ernest emphasizing to stop
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the ebola virus will require doctors and nurses traveling to west africa and these people should be celebrate as heroes and not stigmatized. he said there would be new guidelines and responding to questions as to whether that indicates a lack of preparedness, he said it actual low shows that the administration is reassessing in realtime. he had questions about the role of the military in west africa saying they are not rendering assistance, but they will be there to help first responders. i want to turn to another big challenge. we have tark numbers. isis earns $8 hundred helped million a year and controls 350,000 barrels of oil a day in iraq and syria. the u.s. is considering cutting off the oil flow.
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the chief foreign correspondent is following this in turkey right now. how soon could the bombings start in. >> worry we don't know how soon, but it would be potentially significant. isis is a militant organization. it is a fanatical organization that follows a rat cal ideology, but it is a business and needs money. it operates mostly by selling black market oil and taken over oil refineries and sells them to whoever will buy it. sells some to turkey and sells some to enemies. the kurds. it sells to enemies in the regime when the price is right.
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they had the city. it's the isis capital. it is run by isis. every month the foreign fighters who live there, these are the non-syrians from tunisia, egypt, alger algeria. they get a salary of 1,500 a month. many brought their own families from tunisia and north africa and live there and live quite well. if you came from parts of north africa, that can be a different salary. they are pretty much the only people that have money. if you cutoff the money, you cutoff the prestige and you put a lot of pressure on isis that is not just military pressure, not just the am boing campaign. >> thanks for following that. glad you are safe. take a look at the money flow. the nbc news terrorism analyst.
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you heard him mention that the people to whom this oil is being sold are a pretty diverse group including u.s. allies. what can the u.s. do other than the military steps to try to stop the sales? >> the u.s. has threatened to put sanctions on anyone who buys the oil, thus depriving them of a customer and a consumer. and there is the prospect of bombing pipelines. before we bomb them, we have to understand that is an extreme step. we are destroying infrastructure that takes time to rebuild. that's a decision that we can't come too lightly. >> there the other steps such as sanctions that could be ratcheted up first. >> yes, if those are effective, that's an option. >> i top the look at where this money is coming from. one source is kidnaps for ransom and extortion and local graph and criminal activities.
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donations. specifically from wealthy investors and gutter. who are the wealthy donors and who can be done to stop them? >> they are clerics and others who are simply philanthropists and have a history of supporting the causes. they may or may not have ties to the ruling regimes, but they want to support want causes. that's the issue here. even if we stop the flows, this is not a silver adult to kill isis. they were around before we got the oil and they will be around after they lose the oil revenues. the money that got them start and the money that keeps them going are the outside donations from these philanthropists primarily in the arabian gulf region. it's really attacks that flow that is most complex and most troubling. it will really do that long-term damage in terms of depriving them of the money they need to operate. this oil money is a bonus for
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them right now. >> the donors are a complex challenge and the flow of money from kidnappings which is constantly triggering that we will not negotiate from terrorists. we will keep an eye on that. thank you so much. >> thank you very much. >> my interview with a man who would be president if karl rove ran the universe. how mitt romney has become the republican campaigner in chief. could he also be the man to beat in 2016? maybe not, but he has strong thoughts on the matter. kicking off the special coverage all this week, msnbc is hosting live twitter chats right now. host chris matthews is answering your questions on the election. tweet them to #msnbcvote and tune in for mitt romney one on one.
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>> he is finally catching up to speed and hopefully they are getting the job done. it was clear that they should have. protocols were followed in texas. there were not protocols in place in texas. they were laying out what should be done. i understand the president according to the "new york times," the president was upset and angry at his own people. you necessary charge. they are not the ones that have to make the decisions. this is a responsibility of leadership. you should make sure before the first patient comes here, the cdc is ready and they have dealt with the hospitals. he was not doing that. >> mot romney on the response to the ebola crisis, one of the fights in which he is
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reemerging, placing a trail for republicans ahead of the mid-term elections. at a rally, i caught up with the former governor and asked him about playing the role of party elder. >> how do you envision your role in public life now? are you the bill clinton of the gop? >> a lot of people helped me and these were two of the people who supported and enforced me and i feel a responsibility to help those people. they made a difference for me and i hope i can make a difference for them. >> he is due in kansas. it is a tight race. they show roberts trailing his opponent by just one point. 45-44%. joining us now, the senior political editor is following all of this. first of all, how does having
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mid-romney make a difference in states like congress. >> the senator needs all the help he can and putting together the republican party. 81 percent per of democrat ares backing greg orman, but only 77% of republicans are behind pat roberts. it's one of the more fascinating stories over the past few months. you are dealing with a fractured party right now. whether it's tea party folks who are upset at pat roberts after a bruising primary campaign or centrist republicans who have been turned off by the tax policies of republican governor sam brownback. you are seeing romney trying to bring the team back together and that is pat roberts to victory. the same thing for sam brownback as well. >> why is the race so close? >> i think it has to go to the point of the republican party is just fissured right now. kansas is a state that
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overwhelmingly goes with republicans. had a democratic senator since right during the great depression. this is a state that comfortably elects and reelects and reelects republicans, but when they are divided, that creates an opportunity who has come in on the message saying the democrats and the republican party's problems. you have seen him being attacked as a democrat. >> he is casting himself in a party elder role. something he said this about 2016. >> is your dead going to run for president. >> she still assessing it. >> more than or less than 50%. >> more than likely. >> that he will run?
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>> that he will run. a few years likely it would have been less likely. >> the family will be behind him? >> the family will be behind him if he decides to do it. >> what is the difference between giving this a serious thought and likely to run? >> that interview and the exchange, if you are a jeb bush supporter and you are looking at that and saying that is a signal i need. he looks like his son is telling us he will end up running in 2016. the other way to look at it is to focus on the serious thought. this is a jeb bush and a family that is seriously considering this. they have to realite what the republican party is. pro immigration reform and pro common core. how does that play out in the primary season? those are things they are weighing. we are told we will get an answer by the end of the year
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and that is coming very, very quick low. that are author this is big for bush and governor romney. take a listen. >> the fact that he would not tell them before the election is a shameful thing. it's clear what he wants to do he knows will be unpopular so he won't tell the people the truth until after the election. that is a cynical and inappropriate thing. let him say his plans and let people vote on the plans. he doesn't want to see that. the republicans will be more balanced am we need immigration reform and we need to secure the border and make the system more transparent. you will see that with a republican house and senate. >> the president with his plan to not specify what he is doing and the promise to do something is to try to please a lot of parties here.
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does he risk alienating voters as mitt romney claims? both are finding a hard spot. on the one time in the 2014 elections with the vote playing a small role in most of the senate contests. we have seen a lot of democrats saying the last thing they need to do is talking about states like arkansas, alaska and north carolina. on the other hand, politics plays in 2016 and republicans and democrats know very well they will have much more representation and as we saw in the 2008 and 2012 campaigns. even with mid-romney saying we need immigration reform, it should be noted in the prime easier he was against immigration reform. the comprehensive reform when it came to creating a pathway either to citizenship or to legalization. this has been a tricky thing for
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both parties. >> maybe double speak there and interesting to see his reemergence. stay right there and we will attack a smoking hot mid-term issue. first our call to action. we are urging everyone to do a simple thing that really works. it has been proven that once you pick a time to vote and enter that time on your calendar, you are more likely to do it. pick a time and share it with us. send us a picture of your calendar and send it our way via facebook or twitter. use the hash tag #ronation. still ahead, that pun. interesting things happening in this election. ballots in places about weed. we head to fresno where police are waging a battle against illegal growers.
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>> don't cry for what you are hearing. that's part of a final heart breaking message from a young woman just executed in iran after killing a man she said was trying to rape her. it was sent as a voice mail in april and just being released now. in it, she said to her mother, the world did not love us. it did not want my fate. i will charge the inspectors. all those out of ignorance that were trampled on my rights. what appears as reality is different from it. a man threatened to rape her and she stabbed him in self defense.
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it went to am justy international. they have one of the highest public rates of execution, publicly killing hundreds each year. nick, was there a miscarriage of justice in this case. >> it seems that there was a disastrous miscarriage. there was evidence that she was tortured and i think what is just most horrifying here is the iranian government cares so much about female chastity that women have to cover themselves up. a woman is being sexually assault and she is executed when she tries to defend herself. >> to stop this, iran didn't react. what does that tell us about their willingness to play ball
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on human rights reform? >> there was an attempt by the government of the president to respond and try to provide clemency, but the iranian judiciary is at odds. it had the execution go ahead. this underscores the gap between the president and the more moderate president and government and the judiciary and second, i think it underscores that iran is this country in transition. in some ways women have been more empowered. 60% of college students are women. there have been demonstrations recently about people throwing acid in the faces of women. on the other hand you have these hard loiners who are running the state and barring we78 from control over cloaking and self defense and even going skiing. >> what's next?
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how do concerned people around the world try to change the fate of the next one? >> i think this underscores the limits of efficacy. i think there was an effort and it did create heat on the iranian government and that is why the president tried to make it. that wasn't enough in this case. we can only theep continued pressure will reduce the chance that next time some other woman is executed for trying to defend her life. >> thank you for your work giving voice to the tough faces. referendum on marijuana in these mid-terms here in the united states. are we seeing a national change of tide? we look at the initiatives in the next two weeks. stay with us. and sometimes i struggle to sleep at night,
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a quick update before we get to the final story. we have breaking news in the response on ebola. the pentagon will have dozens of army soldiers quarantined at the base in italy. as they return from serving in west africa, part of the response we told you about earlier. we will bring you updates as we get them on that. back here in the united states, just next week, voters in alaska, oregon and washington, d.c. will decide if they join the growing groups of states to legalize marijuana. in florida, voters will choose weather to amend the state constitution for medical marijuana. will they relax the laws and how will it affect the mid-terms? back here is mark murray. this follows colorado and washington state legalizing and how have those experiments altered the new proposals. any less ans learned? >> number one, marijuana legalization has a majority
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support and there was a research center poll that showed 52% of americans favor marijuana legalization. the majority support, but a narrow majority. it brings younger people to the. we saw this in colorado in 2012 in particular went into passing things. democrats sometimes feel when you add a little bit of a marijuana legalization as a ballot initiative, sometimes it brings out younger voters. of course, we're seeing how the colorado and washington state experiments are going. in colorado, it's brought in a tremendous amount of tax revenue in which there hasn't been as much tax revenue just due to a desire by a lot of politicians not to raise taxes. all of a sudden, being able to tax legal marijuana in stores brings you a lot more tax revenue. >> it's creating some other challenges, too, particularly with law enforcement. a quick look at that from our partners at vocative. they talked about growing small amounts of legalized weed in
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california and how it's affecting law enforcement. take a look at this. >> reporter: at the fresno airport, the sheriff's department is looking for big marijuana grows, using google earth. >> this is a grow here. in is some kind of a structure, they have plants all around it with the fence. ♪ >> reporter: so, those little christmas tree looking things down there, they are normal crops shielding marijuana. california has long been the producer of marijuana in the united states. most grown secretly in the mountains. in fresno county, some big-time pot growers have stopped hiding. they're using the right to grow medical marijuana to grow large amounts in the open. it's only been ten minutes since we've been in the air, and already we've seen, like, over a dozen grows. this is the current gray area of california's medical marijuana law, which says legitimate
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patients can possess and grow pot, but it doesn't say how much. often it's been interpreted to mean 99 plants per patient. >> what we're finding is that these large grows that you've seen during this trip, acres and acres of thousands of marijuana plants, are not for use by individual patients. this is drug trafficking. we're following this marijuana across the united states. >> a lot of times we see an individual from out of state coming in, leasing a small portion of a property, just to grow marijuana. we've been told that people read on the internet they could come here and grow marijuana legally. it's typically asian farmers, laotians. >> reporter: fresno residents are getting angry about violence related to open marijuana cultivation, like robberies, shootings and murders. this year fresno county passed a zoning ordinance that completely bans growing, even for people with the right to medical marijuana. in earlier years when deputies
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raided a large medical marijuana grow, all they did was cut down the plants. this year they're arresting people. this might seem like a lot of guns for walking into a farmer's field, but there's a lot of violence around marijuana. recently, seven thieves invaded marijuana grower's home and two were killed in the resulting shootout. ♪ >> reporter: they're talking to the guy they caught at the grow. the guy started running as soon as we got here. do you have a medical marijuana recommendation? no. do you grow with your card? what are you going to do with all the rest? this grow contains nearly 4,000 plants. last year the fresno sheriff's
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department was only able to cut down a third of 500 identified grows. leaving the rest to be sold across the united states. they're hoping this year's policy will discourage farmers from planting weed, but so far they've already identified a couple hundred grows. >> you know, we're doing a lot more criminal enforcement. we've got the ordinance. so, i don't think we'll ultimately see the impact of that until next year. we'll start to see impacts. >> mark, we just saw how difficult these laws can be to enforce. how do politicians juggle appeasing voters who want legalization and law enforcement officials who actually want to deal with the realities of this. >> that's a great question and does show there is a challenge here. all the ballot propositions we're talking about are -- are about people -- individuals being able to have one or two ounces of legal marijuana. there's nothing to address people who are growing so much of it on their farms, trying to sell it, either domestically or internationally. and it does create a very big problem for law enforcement. and so, you know, i think as
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this goes forward, if we see the percentage of americans thinking that marijuana should be legalized, i think we'll move from the individual then to the person who is trying to capitalize and make money off of it. >> mark, thank you for your help in understanding that and for your whole look at the midterms coming up. a lot to juggle here. we'll keep track. that wraps up today's "r.f. daily." "the reid report" with with my colleague joy vooreid is up nex. what are have you got? >> coming up next on "the reid report," fallout over some state's ebola protocol, especially after a nurse, just back from sierra leone blasts new jersey for the conditions of her quarantine. we'll preview a new front line documentary that shows what life is like inside isis. election day is eight days away. wendy davis discusses her bid for senator.
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hello, everyone, i'm joy reid. it's a busy monday on "the reid report." we're watching developments out of new york and new jersey on ebola, as well as west africa where u.s. ambassador to the u.n. samantha power is today. school is closed all week in marysville, washington, where we're following the latest development following friday's deadly shooting. we start in new jersey where a nurse back from west africa who was put in quarantine at a new jersey hospital this weekend is now heading home. kaci has lashed out at officials over her treatment while being forcibly quarantined. new jersey governor chris christie says the procedure is necessary. >> i have no -- absolutely nothing but goodwill for her going forward. she's a good person. has done good work in west africa. but she needs to understand the obligation of elected officials is to protect the public health of all the people. the fact we inconvenienced her
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for a period of time, that's what we needed to do to protect the public and will continue to do. >> kristin dahlgren, we understand kaci was released a short time ago. >> reporter: a hospital spokes person told nbc she was released at 1 p.m. they didn't give any details. she was expected to leave in a private vehicle. wasn't expected to take any public transportation, any type of commercial flights. she was expected to be accompanied by state officials as well as officials from doctors without borders, the organization she was working with in west africa. she's being transported to maine at her request. this, of course, comes after a change from the state of new jersey. they say that they consulted with the cdc, that she didn't show any symptoms over the past 24 hours and also had a negative ebola test. that's when they decided to grant her request to let her leave the state and go to maine. now, when she gets to maine,
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