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for its part, politico featured a new headline on sunday that cued a little closer to reality. yes, bp did damage the golf. the author at the ocean conservancy. consider it recommended reading. that's all for now, "the ed show" is up next. welcome to the ed show. when i say let's get to work, let's do something. let's get to work. >> minimum wage? would you rather have rick scott in florida? >> do you support a higher minimum wage in florida yesterday? >> how would i know. >> i'm standing right here. i never said the comments were misunderstood. i'm tired of hearing about the
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minimum wage. >> would you rather have scott walker in wisconsin. >> i don't think it serves a purpose. >> there's no free lunch. >> what would you rather have? >> good to have you with us tonight, thanks for watching. the private sector decides the wages. the private sector decides how many people in this country should get some kind of assistance so they can live above the poverty line or make ends meet and survive and make it? great to have you with us tonight on this subject. i wanted to start with this picture. this is a picture of the capitol, if you haven't been to washington lately, this is what they're doing, they're reconstructing it, reinforcing it, this is important, it's part of our tradition, our culture, our heritage. it's important that we have the capitol in good shape. the people that work inside this building often times have voted themselves a raise. the people that goo through the
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building, have flipped a micky in there, we have to get another 3, 4, 5% for next year, plus benefits and better health care. would you do that? if you had an opportunity -- you are right you would. every american would. go ask anybody. if you had a chance to vote yourself a raise, would you do it? yes. that's why i think minimum wage is going to be an issue one week from today. we're one week -- and folks out there are doing some doom and gloom on predictions for the democrats. why? the democrats are going to give you a raise, they're going to tell the private sector. millions of americans it's going to be better for you if we're in power. however, there's one issue, the democrats definitely are winning voters on when it comes to doom and gloom, and that's the minimum wage. a poll conducted this year found
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that 73% of americans favor the minimum wage. 25%, now, they don't want it. 3%, i don't know what they're thinking. 53% of republicans say that they want to see a pay hike, they favor it. now, when we wanted background checks on firearms, it was the public at 90%. but we never got a vote. now, you have a vote. you have a chance, you have a chance to vote yourself a raise if you're a minimum wage worker. the republicans basically have got this philosophy that it's not very good to pay people. that's right, they don't think it's the position of government to decide whether the private sector should up the ante on what they're going to pay people. they're certainly okay with those people going off on public assistance, yet they want to cut those budgets too. you can't have it both ways. how is it that wages can go up for the wealthy, and wages can
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go up for the upper middle class, the wages and value of workers has stayed the same and flat lined over the years? it's called power? three republican governors have not gotten the message when it comes to minimum wage. and that's chris christie, scott walker, and rick scott. they clearly do not support this issue at all. >> if i had to tell you the truth, i'm tired of hearing about the minimum wage, i really am. i don't think there's a mother or father shutting around a kitchen table tonight in america, saying, you know, honey, if our son or daughter could just make a higher minimum wage, my god, all our dreams will be realized. >> should we have it? >> i'm not going to appeal it, i don't think it serves a purpose, we're debating about what the lowest levels are at. i want people to make two or three times that. >> do you support the principle of a minimum wage? the concept of a minimum w5i7b8g? >> sure, but here -- how would i know what -- the private sector
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decides wages. >> i want to take issue with governor chris christie saying that parents sit around the kitchen table and say that all of our dreams could be realized if our kid could just get a minimum wage. you want to talk about a guy that is totally disconnected with where families are in this country. of course every parent wants to see their child succeed and go as far as they possibly can go in our system. but we're not talking about kids. we're talking about moms and dads and a growing number of americans who are falling into this category of having to live on the minimum wage. and for these governors to think that this doesn't help the economy, they're way off base. this week, i sat down with kentucky governor steve bashir, he's a politician who understands the impact of raising the minimum wage, what it would have for his constituents. >> it will put the money into our local communities, into our
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groceries, into our medical facilities, and all the places that people spend money, because those folks that get a raise in the minimum wage, they're not saving a lot, they're spending that money to support their families. >> you better believe they are, and every survey shows that, according to an analysis by the economic policy institute, a 1010 minimum wage would mean, look at this number. 1.7 million americans would no longer have to rely on public assistance programs. the republicans could reduce that, and it wouldn't cost them a dime. this would produce 7.6 billion dollars a year or more in savings to the federal government. bottom line, raising the minimum wage isn't just good for workers in the workplace, it is smart economic policy. americans overwhelmingly agree. in the meantime, we have scott walker. he's out complaining that he's not getting enough money to get re-elected from the republican governor's association.
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you know what this guy is? he's tone deaf, he's not listening to anybody, except his advisers, some of them are in jail. his constituents live off $7.25 an hour, he's complaining about millions of dollars in tv spending. that's his concern? in 2010, the republican governor's association spent 5.2 million dollars on walker's campaign. for the 2012 recall, the rga spent $9 million. they're on track to spend $8 million for the 2014 campaign. in just this final week before the election, the rga plans to spend $2 billion alone on just the walker wras and wisconsin, all that money, might not even help considering walker's stance on the minimum wage, according do a public policy pole, 44% of wisconsin voters say that they would be less likely to vote for a candidate who opposes a minimum wage hike. the same poll found voters in
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six key battleground states are less likely to vote republican for republicans who oppose the minimum wage. voters, can we come to the conclusion that they're pretty wise to this? republican governors are not looking out for the best interest of their voters, they want to control. now, it's not just republican governors. republicans in congress have also failed to pass meaningful legislation for the middle class in this country. we're talking minimum wage. we're talking equal pay for women, we're talking jobs, you name it. now, ohio senator rob portman wants you to believe across the board, this is all going to change if we get power. and it's going to change for a price, republicans you see they have to gain control of the senate for anything to happen. >> what's the real difference -- >> getting stuff done. >> really? >> what your polling shows. >> i mean, there's a lot of skepticism that anything -- >> the only way things get done -- >> the only way things get done
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is if we change the majority. so here we have the republicans out hostage taking on sunday shows. we have the republicans out there saying, you know what? you want something done, you better put us in power, and if you don't put us in power, and the no way in hell anything's going to happen. we go to ohio to speak with steel workers suffering from bad trade deals, republicans weren't getting things done in ohio either for workers. >> public servants are worried about taking care of the public and not special interest. that's what it comes down to. you turn down the tv every day, we're talking about takers and entitlements, well, if it's not good for good paying jobs and investment in this country. the support of our infrastructure, you know, where are we going to be in ten years, 15 years, 20 years.
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what kind of opportunities are my kids going to have. >> if they say i'm a taker for collecting unemployment because my job is not there at this moment for me to work. in the state of ohio, i have to put in two applications a week to try to find a job. i'm not a taker, i just don't want to be taken advantage of. >> why in the world would we play a sound bite from six months ago? because the republicans haven't changed a bit. if you get unemployment insurance, you're a taker. if you are on a minimum wage job, you shouldn't get any more. the good news is, that gentleman is back to work in ohio, thanks to the investments made by u.s. steel not republicans. is it hostage taking? yes. that's exactly what it is. the republicans are sounding the alarm to the american people, it's fear again that if you don't vote for us, and you don't put us in power, and we can't put president obama in the corner with a veto, nothing's
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going to get done. and they're banking on the fact that the president is a prague in a test. they're banking on the fact that president obama will be like reagan and he'll do deals. he'll look over there and say, well, gosh, the election took place, the senate is owned by the republicans now, and it's owned by the house and will be for years, i might as well try to get something done for my legacy, that's the fear in all of this as i see it. caving into the right wing and respecting their election? the bottom line here is, this is as we say every time, one of the most important elections in american history. what will the supreme court look like if they maintain control of the legislative body some day, and once they get the white house. this election matters, if you're a minimum wage worker and you don't vote, you're only voting against yourself, you have something to do here, you just got to do what you got to do. do what they do in congress, vote yourself a raise. get your cell phones out, i want to know what you think, do you think republicans would ever
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raise the minimum wage? a for yes, b for no. you can always go to our blog and leave a comment. we encourage you to do that at ed.msnbc.com. results coming up later on in the show. i'm joined by my panel. ruth, i'm going to be real quick with all of you here. minimum wage, what does it mean in this election? >> well, it means a lot, i think as you point out, there's a real disconnect between the republicans view, christie and walker. so is rick scott, they need millions and millions for their elections and need to appeal to these billionaires who want even more tax breaks and control over our politics. someone's working for minimum wage at burger king, they should have the floor cut out from under them. they don't need any protection. >> what about public assistance. you have 1.7 million people lifted off public assistance if
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they got the raise democrats want to do. >> it puts money into the economy, have you to have money in the economy at the bottom, not at the top, if you put it in at the top, it never works its way down, if you put it at the bottom, with the very type of thing you're talking about, give the 1.5 million workers out there, who are on minimum wage -- give them an increase beyond poverty wages, give them assistance, and that money moves up the capitolist system in a defined column, every columnist who looks at it objectively agrees with that. >> how do you judge whether minimum wage is going to be a factor at the polls? >> i think that's easy, ed, there's a new pew poll, that asks people their position. 90% of the democrats in that poll said we're in favor of increasing the minimum wage to 1010. also, 53% of republicans did as well. i think the governor's playbook
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of the republican party we talked about, i don't think using cliff notes in whatever they're doing, it will resonate, it will cut through. there's also four different such questions and four different republican states on next week's ballot, which are rumored to be easily passing in those republican states, what the republicans are trying to do, because of corporate interest is to expand a permanent underclass of the working poor, and making sure that they protect corporate profits which is fine, if it's not at the expense of those people who are working every day, at the current minimum wage, which comes out 40 hours, $15,000 a year, there's no way you can put together and support a family of four. >> ruth, scott walker has never given a definitive answer on minimum wage. he talks about, we're trying to focus on the other. is he for it or against is it? >> he's not for increasing the minimum wage, he's been pretty
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clear about that. the question arose when he went off script and said he saw no purpose to the minimum wage, and, you know, i want to reinforce, mitch said it's -- when chrissy it's, we need to talk about the middle class income, higher wages. which is what walker says, we're turning into the third world here, we have the greatest income inequality in the 20s, you make $100 million, the 99% that make less than $20 million have seen incomes decline. you can't get a leg up, reach the bottom rung on the ladder, if there's no floor. you have a surf class of workers who are working really hard, they have families, in fact, they are not just kids, they don't have that little leg up that allow their kids to do better. i think that's the big bait and switch in the way walker, christie and scott are talking before this. >> you heard scott's answer about minimum wage, he thinks the private sector should decide it, does that mean the private sector should also decide how
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many people receive assistance. >> stay away from the issue as much as you can. this is all about pleasing the billionaire inheritance babies, that's what's driving all of this. it doesn't make any difference, they're on the same playbook, their sugar daddy, billionaire republican donors are ordering them to say what they're saying, that's why it all sounds exactly the same. they don't want to talk about the last 40 years, the bottom 90% of americans have had their income rise at a pathetic 3% rate. they don't want to talk about that, republicans have spent decades developing and focusing the talking points that move their base. there's a checklist mandatory positions they have to take, minimum wage is one of them. it has nothing to do with the reality of problems that the average american faces out there, they're simply ordered to do this like trained circus monkeys, that's what you heard from rick scott, that's what you hear from scott walker, they
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can't think for themselves, because they're ordered by the billionaire inheritance babies not to think for themselves. >> would this move an independent voter based on your survey in florida? >> i think without a question. charlie crist is trending really well, in the last few days, even better so. thus necessitating rick scott of his own money. it cuts through, it's important for us to get everyone involved in the election. the larger the turnout, obviously the better it is for democrats in this country. i think it does cut through, listen, look at anybody who's out there. you cannot hire a baby-sitter for the minimum wage. i can guarantee you that. >> ruth coniff, great to have all of you with us tonight. thanks a lot. remember to answer tonight's question, share your thoughts with us on twitter, appreciate the like on facebook as well. go to theedshow, we want to know what you think. labor workers are gathering
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>> harry reid has a bill to force the redskins to change their name. >> congress should focus on other issues. >> ed gillespie in the senate race goes long to try to win over virginia voters. >> i'll oppose the redskins b l bill. >> don't you see when you call your organization the washington redskins it's offensive to us? >> hawaii oh, no. >> the volcano that helped create this island now threatens to take whatever is in its path. >> we live on an island, we have active volcanos, we know this is always a possibility. >> lava creeps closer to neighborhoods on the big island. >> the red-hot river threat fling a town. >> we're praying really hard that it will spare us. it's going to be sad watching our house go down. >> it could eventually get the
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whole town. >> warrquarantined nurse -- >> let me finish this, we've had experience -- >> the right side of public opinion. >> i'm going to be on the right side of both ultimately. >> chris christie defends his ebola quarantine decision. >> cdc has been incremental on this. you don't want them on public transportation. you don't want them on public gatherings, you want them to work from home. that sounds like quarantine to me. >> they've decided to ignore science, evidence and decades of careful observations. >> governors ultimately have the responsibility to protect the public health and public safety of the people within their borders. our policy hasn't changed and our policy will not change. >> joining me tonight. debra berger co president of the national nurses united. good to have you with us tonight. you just recently testified in front of congress and laid out
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exactly what this country has to do when it comes to equipping nurses properly to fight this entire ordeal that we're dealing with in this country right now. i want to talk about quarantines and where your organization stands on this. what conditions have to be present which would constitute a quarantine? >> well, in actuality, what we're trying to do is do what's right for the health care workers, the patients, and the community. and in reality, we've had a lot of experience with communicable diseases like hiv, sars, and h1n1, and we know that most quarantines don't work. that they end up stigmatizing the patient and separating them from their communities. as was proven with this nurse who was made to be quarantined in a tent that was unheated in a
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paper gown overnight, was really unconscionable. when she really should have been given a hero's welcome and then taken care of properly. >> do you know what new jersey's policy is on this right now? >> well, no, i don't, it's actually been changing from day to day. it's been shifting, and that's been a problem that national nurses united has had all along, that the guidelines that are implemented by the states tend to end up being a patchwork quilt of mandates or regulations that really aren't based on scientific principles and sound poli policy. >> i don't mean to monday morning quarterback here, you have been sounding the alarm for weeks on end about this, and had the nurses been listened to from the get go, we wouldn't be talking about quarantines right now, would we? >> we would not. >> it's really sad when they had the video of nina and her last
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days at the hospital in dallas, the doctor had this huge hazmat suit with a respirator and it would have been -- it was extremely pathetic that had she had that equipment when she first took care of mr. duncan, those two nurses wouldn't have been infected whatsoever. >> does it pain you that this is becoming a political issue? >> it does pain me that it has been a political issue, because right now, we're ignoring years of experience in dealing with infectious disease. we know how to contain the disease, and we know how to treat patients. and it never works to actually make patients to go underground to be fearful to come and get treatment, to be taken care of properly, and we have been sounding the alarm for months. and if they had gone along with our recommendations, which are
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mandated optimal standards for personal equipment and training and the ability to drill for the eventuality of an ebola patient, we would not be here today. >> in the interview, he doesn't think a mandatory quarantine would discourage aid workers from going to ebola infected regions. do you agree with that? >> i don't agree with it, i think that right now there are nurses and doctors that want to do the right thing, that want to help in west africa, and have given up weeks of time on their own with no pay and only to come back to the united states and be told that you must endure another three weeks of mandated quarantine, when they know that these health care workers are probably at lower risk than they
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would normally be. >> so we can come to the conclusion that some of these governors are making decisions without the facts, and it's somewhat of a knee jerk reaction? it's an over reaction? or is that a misstatement? >> well, we do want to make sure the public is protected and we do want to follow what our scientists currently are telling us, and whab we know to be true is that a person is not infectious, unless they have symptoms, meaning a feev, diarrhea, nausea, vomiting, and they can be monitored with a safe health care team providing effective follow-up, and that they can be productive members, contributing to this war on ebola. >> debra berger, i appreciate your time tonight, thank you for your national nurses united. thanks so much. the louisville slugsluggers
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at this hour, labor workers in kentucky are holding a rally to defeat mitch mcconnell. labor was key for president obama's elections in 2008 and 2012. now families are throwing their support behind grimes for senate. the latest blue grass poll has mcconnell with a narrow lead over grimes. mcconnell's main tactic has been to compare and associate grimes. in a debate, the democratic candidate called herself a clinton democrat. >> growing the middle class the right way, that's by making sure that we are building from the foundation up. >> mcconnell's response made him sound like a broken record. >> there's not a dime's worth of difference between a clinton democrat and an obama democrat.
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>> the clinton factor is not to be ignored. they're working to excite the democratic base and get the voters out to the polls. bill clinton has already been to kentucky three times supporting grimes. hillary clinton and former first lady and senator will be in lexington and northern kentucky stumping once again for grimes on saturday. joining me tonight on the rapid response panel, adrian elrod, she worked for hillary clinton in 2008 and the reason white house, with bill clinton, also with us tonight bob schrum. adrian, i'm curious about -- i was in kentucky yesterday. and governor bashir told me that things changed when the clintons showed up, all of a sudden it became a race, what do you make of that? the clinton factor in kentucky? >> well, you know the clintons are clearly the most popular surrogates everywhere across the
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country right now. they have a really big history ad with kentucky. you may recall they're very close family friends. there's a longstanding history there. but they spent a lot of time there, secretary clinton performed well in 2008 and they reflect the values of kentuckians. growing the middle class, jobs, the economy, and they're really the perfect surrogates to have in there at this time. >> i'm putting a couple cars out in front of the parade on this one, it seems to me like the clintons would like to get rid of mitch mcconnell if hillary's ever president of the united states? >> well, i think that's probably true. bill and hillary clinton have done a brilliant job in this midterm. they've gone to races and places where they can make a difference. they've made a difference in kentucky, i give them a lot of credit for standing up against the conventional wisdom, saying, we can win this race opinion.
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he's been forced to admit that you can't keep kentucky health care site if you get rid of obama care, he wants to get rid of obama care for kentucky ans, those people's health insurance is on the ballot. if they show up, it's going to make a big difference in this election. this is a 1 to 3 point election, if you look at the polls you can trust, you throw out the outliers and the republican polls. so i think if people get motivated, the clintons motivate them, labor motivates them, folks like elizabeth warren motivates them. mitch mcconnell won't be the senate minority leader, majority leader, it will be an ex-senator looking to cash in as a lobbyist. >> is there a difference between a clinton democrat and an obama supporter? >> the bottom line is, they're all democrats.
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reforming health care, making it better, not repealing it, and representing an agenda working for the american families, not an agenda such as mitch mug connells that is driveth by the koch brothers. they're very conservative. i've had the pleasure of being in arkansas the last couple weeks knocking on doors. these are folks who think independently, you're seeing the same thing in kentucky, trend lines are changing, it's exciting to see all the excitement and enthusiasm around grimes' campaign. i agree with bob, this is a close race, it's all about dotv right now. i think you're going to see some exciting things in kentucky on election day. >> here's what he had to say, the most recent debate about minimum wage. >> there are times when a minimum wage increase would be appropriate, not in a jobless recovery like this. >> jobless recovery.
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we'd added 10 million jobs, it's been a remarkable run, 56 months of private sector job growth, what are we going to raise the minimum wage. that is political speak that in kentucky that mcconnell's telling people, i'm not all that bad of a guy, i'll help you a little bit, he's never been for it. what about that, bob? >> he lied for a long time about health coverage, whether or not they could stay around. the system that covers people in kentucky, finally been forced to admit the truth. he's doing the same thing here in the minimum wage. it's double-talk. i think adrian's right, if people can see through this, if they hear from folks like the clintons, if they hear from folks in labor, if gotv works, he's in trouble. i don't think he's ever met a minimum wage ib crease he liked. he would always have a reason we couldn't do it. he used to traffic that raising the minimum wage destroys jobs. that's been discredited. this is a jobless recovery, when it's anything but that, it's been a slow recovery, but we're
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creating lots and lots and lots of jobs, by the way, raising the minimum wage will help create more jobs, not destroy jobs, folks who have more money to spend, more defanned in the economy, more people will get hired. >> what do you make of union rally tonight. there's not a lot of union workers in kentucky. they're there rallying, i think as much to get rid of mcconnell as they are to support grimes. what do you make of it? >> well, you know, look, again, this is such a close race, even if labor is not a huge part of the electorate, every single vote counts right now. building again on what bob was saying earlier, mitch mcconnell has voted against raising the minimum wage 17 times. they're going to see someone who's going to fight for them and their families, by not raising unemployment, minimum wage. being an independent voice, that's alison.
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>> we'll have to have you back to talk about arkansas. i hear that's closer than what the polls are saying? >> it is. >> good to have you with us tonight. appreciate your time. thanks for joining us on the ed slowp. coming up, maine's governor tries to turn lapage on his health care record. democratic challenger, the congressman from maine will join us live from portland, keep it here. calling winter an "underserved season". and before he quit his friend's leaf-raking business for "not offering a 401k." larry knew the importance of preparing for retirement. that's why when the time came he counted on merrill edge to streamline his investing and help him plan for the road ahead. that's the power of streamlined connections. that's merrill edge and bank of america.
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welcome back to "the ed show." the story for the folks who take a shower after work. one of the most radically conservative governors in the united states is hidden in maine. now he's warming up after rejecting, he's warming up to obamacare. paul lepage is well known for outrageous comments. >> as your governor, you're going to be seeing a lot of me on the front page. saying governor lepage told obama to go to hell. >> i've heard if you put it in the microwave and heat it up, it gives off a chemical similar to estrogen. and so worse cases, some women might have a little beard, but we don't want to do that. >> what would you like too do? >> senator jack claims to be for the people, but he's the first
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one to give it to the people without providing -- [ indiscernible ] >> [ bleep ]. >> that comment is not politically correct, but we got to understand who this man is. this man is a bad person. he doesn't want only have no brains, he has a black heart. >> lepage is also known for vetoing the affordable care act medicare expansion five times. now he's up for re-election, and the story's changing. >> the federal exchange will allow anyone from 100% on up, up to 400%, to qualify for large subsidies. and so i think that we need to address that, maximize that aspect of it. take those that do not qualify and then find a way to get them insurance. >> some of the options are
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affordable, but there are deductibles on there that are unaffordable to somebody making so little money. >> i didn't put that in. >> i'm talking private health care options too. >> well, that's aca. >> lepage is suddenly a big fan of of the exchanges and finding a way to help the uninsured. the solution is in the medicaid expansion he vetoed five times. and 70,000 residents are waiting. joining me now maine gubernatorial candidate and congressman from maine, good to have you with us tonight. i appreciate your time. is this a genuine reversal on the part of the governor because of its popularity? >> well, it's great to be back with you, ed. the governor, the legislature sends the affordable care act expansion for the 70,000 mainers, to a veto again. the governor made it clear he's not going to accept that expansion. he talks about the exchanges, as
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you well know, that's part of the affordable care act. so i made it very clear to day one, i'll be submitting legislation to the legislature to expand access for the 70,000 maineers who were denied by this governor five times. what he said and what he does, two separate things. he doesn't support it. he never has. he never will, actually. >> do you think residents here have got that figured out? is he a guy you can trust? >> well, i mean, he says he's not a politician, but he's a great politician. he knows the issues that divide mainers, welfare and immigration issues. that's all he's been harping on. he has no plan for governor, made that clear in the debates. just keeps talking about the same old things. 70,000 mainers, of which 3,000 are veterans, are not getting health care because this governor vetoed the bipartisan bill that was put together with
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republicans and democrats, and i don't expect him to sign any bill that will expand access under the affordable care act. >> congressman, it's pretty clear that a lot of people respect somebody that tells it like it is or speaks with an unvarnished opinion. there's certain political attraction to all of that. but is this guy a loose cannon? i mean, the things that he's said and the way he's operated. >> the way -- what he said and what he does is actually two different things. the fact that he has failed policy, homelessness in maine went up 26%. child abuse increased. more children are living in poverty here today. for a governor who wfs homeless, you'd think he'd understand these issues and really focus on getting maine, people that are living in poverty, out of poverty. we got to change the system. when you look at the welfare
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system. there are two ways getting them off. kicking them off like he's doing, or changing the system, having a tiered system, so they can get a job, they'll lose some before t benefits, but not all of them. his failed policy has kept maine, once again, 50th, under the forbes list, as the worst state to do business in. he touts how he's a business person, but they're on the list for all four years of administration. because of his failed policy and ideology that's preventing maine from moving forward in a positive way. >> where does minimum wage fit in this debate with mainers? >> the majority of them support the increasing of the minimum wage. if you look at the 13 states, they've voted to increase the minimum wage. they're seeing economic growth in those states.
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the fact of the matter is, no one should be working full time, living in poverty. and that's why i've supported increase in the minimum wage here in the state of maine. i did it when i was president of the maine senate. republicans and democrats unanimously voted to increase it. >> and vinfinally, he's so radi and so against workers, why is this race close? >> the race is close, because what the governor says is not necessarily what he does. he knows the issues that are the wedge issues. people are struggling here in the state of maine. i punched a time clock for over 29 years. they're struggling and the fact that the governor's resonating with this issue of getting people off welfare, is resonating with the voters, but he's not telling them how he's going to get them off welfare. his way to do it and mine are two totally different ways to get them off welfare. under my administration, i'll
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not allow the waste, fraud and abuse that this governor has over the last four years. >> great to have you with us tonight. >> thank you. >> that's "the ed show." "politicsnation" with reverend al sharpton starts right now. >> thanks to you for tuning in. i'm live tonight from atlanta. tonight's lead, one week to go, just seven days until election day, and all that talk of a republican wave was just talk. because it is tight. right now senate races in ten states are closer than five points. this election is going to come down to turn-out. so if you care about fairness, if you care about the affordable care act, or minimum wage, or women's rights, then you have to get ou
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