plus, the river of lava claims its first home in hawaii. in virginia, what caused an unmanned nasa rocket to explode suddenly after takeoff? let's start at the white house where right now president obama is meeting with health care workers who have been working to fight ebola in west africa. it comes as the debate over whether to quarantine returning doctors and nurses gets more intense. after nurse kaci hickox who was forcibly quarantined in new jersey over the weekend, now says she's prepared to go to court if the state of maine tries to quarantine here. nbc's kristin welker joins us live from the white house. we understand dr. kent brantly is among those attending the meeting. what do we expect to hear from the white house? >> reporter: we expect dr. kent brantly to introduce president obama. dr. brantly did serve in west africa, diagnosed with ebola and recovered here in the united states. there will be interesting optics

there. president obama, i anticipate, will thank the health care workers for their service and underscore messages we have heard from this white house before. namely to your point about the quarantines. yesterday when president obama spoke, he talked about the fact that he does not believe this administration does not support mandatory quarantines. they fear that it could disincentivize health care workers like dr. kent brantly from going overseas to fight it at the source. the administration's argument is that is the key to dealing with the issue here in the united states, stomping out ebola in west africa. thousands of health care workers needed in west africa to achieve that very point. but, of course, joy, there has been a lot of debate about whether there should be mandatory quarantines put in place. the cdc has issued recommendations which don't go that far. of course, new york and new jersey have issued mandatory quarantines. and the administration has made it very clear they disagree with that. but also made it clear that they can't force the states to act in a certain way.

joy? >> yeah, #federalism. let's switch gears a little bit. there was also a question of a cyber attack at the white house. tell us a little bit about that. >> well, here's what we know. according to white house officials, they say there was some suspicious activity on the computer systems here. they say it was dealt with. one of the keys here, joy, it was on unclassified information. we're not talking about classified information. i just interviewed congressman peter king, who said that he believes the attack has been dealt with. he also points to the fact that this was likely done by the russians, he says. when i asked him why, he said, look, this is something they have done in the past. he believes it could be retaliation for the united states'policies on ukraine. the congressman also making it very clear, he doesn't believe these actions were meant to disrupt the computer systems here at the white house but, rather, to gather information. when i asked white house officials whether they could

corroborate this was the work of the russians, they didn't have any comment on that. they're still investigating. >> kristin welker at the white house, thanks much. meanwhile, the department of homeland security is stepping up security at u.s. government buildings in washington, d.c. and across the country. pete williams has more on what led to the security measures. >> joy, officials say this is not the result of some specific threat or single piece of intelligence. they say the thoughts behind this are what's been out in the public, the consistent calls from isis for attacks on u.s. government buildings and officials. these are calls in propaganda videos and jihadist websites. then these attacks in canada, the shooting attack on the canadian parliament that also killed a soldier at the national war memorial, and an earlier attack in canada, plus the axe attack in new york city subway. you put that all together, homeland security says, and additional security at federal buildings just seems prudent. there's not going to be a change at all of the 9,500 buildings

that are under the responsibility of the federal protective service, but where appropriate, they say, there will be additional measures, some visible, some not, additional scrutiny on what people are carrying inside, perhaps some more guards outside that are armed. and they will change this around. they won't say specifically which buildings. and they also say these security measures may change from time to time. back to you. >> thank you, nbc's pete williams. over to hawaii now where the lava flow on the big island continues its relentless march after destroying at least one home tuesday. nbc's halle jackson has the latest developments from pahoa, hawaii. >> reporter: the lava's leading edge took months to arrive and just minutes to destroy its first building in pohoa. from the air, a dramatic bird's-eye view of the destruction. black crust covering the red hot river underneath. right now it feels like we're in a furnace. we're close to the lava. you can see some of the

breakouts. about 40 to 50 homes are in danger. people in this community are starting to pack up and leave. on the flow's front lines, a house disintegrated, nothing left, the first casualty, but not the last as it sets off fires triggering thick black smoke. dangerously close to the local elementary school. >> it means we're shutting down. we will not have students. >> reporter: the sort of it all, this crater, a massive tub full of molten rock. it emerged from the vent back on june 22nd, slowly advancing more than 13 miles downhill. the town of pahoa now directly in its path. it's the first time in years lava has threatened a community here after it destroyed homes in 1981. now his home is under fire again. >> came into this world naked, i'm going out naked. i'm not taking this with me. but the memories i can, right?

that's the most precious and that's what i can keep. >> reporter: this is devastating for people here, but the attitude among the community is one of acceptance. they understand they live on an island with an active volcanos, and sometimes to live in paradise, this is the price you pay. >> nbc's halle jackson reporting from hawaii. a reid alert from florida where minutes ago an atlas v rocket successfully lifted off from cape canaveral, carrying a gps system into space. it comes after last night's dramatic explosion off the coast of virginia where an unmanned rocket exploded seconds after lift-off. we have the latest from wallops island, virginia. >> reporter: good after from wallops island, eastern virginia. this particular mission was launched by orbital sciences,

one of two commercial vendors nasa turned to to pick up the slack and carry cargo to the space station after the space shuttle fleet was retired. this morning the folks at nasa are beginning this process of looking for any debris, looking on the island, in the marshland, in the water, and, in fact, on the beaches and then thil try to figure out what went wrong. >> five, four, three, two, one. >> reporter: it was just after sunset when the launch of an unmanned rocket destined for the international space station lit up the early evening sky. everything seemed normal until just six seconds after lift-off. a massive fireball tore through the rocket and lit up the night sky. as the rocket started to come apart, nasa's controllers decided the safest option was to use the rocket's self-destruct option. >> launch team, launch team, be advised. stay at your consoles. >> reporter: the explosion

visible from coastal virginia, from the press site -- >> hold on. it's going to be laud. >> reporter: to a nearby beach. to a plane flying high above. >> oh, wow. >> reporter: this was to be a resupply mission carrying 5,000 pounds of cargo including food, clothing, spare parts and science experiments. despite the loss, nasa insists the six crew members on the space station is in no danger. >> the crew is in good shape, we have plenty of work to do and plenty of supplies on orbit to keep them going for quite some time. >> reporter: while the explosion on the ground was massive, nasa reports no one was injured, but there was extensive damage to the launch pad and surrounding areas. >> it's an expensive lesson, but it only costs us time and it costs us metal and money. it didn't cost us, as happens too often, lives. >> reporter: that's a very important point. no lives lost. let's also make the point here that, in fact, there has already been a resupply mission to the

space station lifting off this morning from kazakhstan. meanwhile, yet another resupply vessel docked with the space station today. and there's yet another one in december. nasa is making the point, listen, the folks on the space station are going to be okay. it's not like there's any shortage of anything. they'll be fine. they already have enough supplies on board to last them until march. you know, what happened to this rocket, why did it explode? it could be anything, from an engine failure to a pressure problem to some sort of an electrical short. it could also be simply a matter of the combustibles for some reason catching fire. was there a leak? three-quarters of a million pounds of fuel exploded, ricocheted and reverberated across this area in eastern virginia. this investigation will take some time. joy, back to you. >> nbc's tom co-stestello in virginia. reid alert from the man in colorado who vanished at halftime during bronco's game.

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quarantine conundrum rages on as nurse kaci hickox is fighting back against state officials in maine. a few hours ago with a maine state trooper stationed outside the home where she's staying, governor paul lepage released a statement that reads in part, the health care worker who is in ft. kent has been unwilling to follow the protocols set forth by tmaine. it comes hours after hickox spoke out on the "today" show after she said she had no intention of remaining isolated for 21 days. >> you know, i don't plan on sticking to the guidelines. i remain appalled by these home quarantine policies that have been forced upon me. even though i am in perfectly good health. >> meanwhile, one day after authorizing hickox's release from an isolation tent where she spent the weekend, new jersey

governor chris christie showed up in maine to campaign for governor lepage. at a stop in rhode island, the governor and head of the rga, dismissed complaints about miss hickox's treatment and seemed unconcerned about a lawsuit. >> looks like you have to defend this in court. >> who cares? get in line. i've been sued before. i'm happy to take it on. she had access from her cell phone, access to the internet and takeout food, the best food and she was fine. >> i want to play with you what governor paul lepage said moments ago when he was asked by a reporter with our nbc affiliate out there, wcsh about what he plans to do going forward with miss hickox. >> she's abiding right now and she's threatened or she says she's not going to abide any

longer, so we're preparing documents to go ask a judge to help us out. >> jay stanley of the aclu, a state trooper outside of this woman's home, the governor of the state of maine saying she's not abiding, the governor of new jersey saying we gave her takeout, what's the problem? how far are governors allowed to go with a woman who we cannot say enough does not have ebola? >> right. obviously, as americans we want to defend our liberty as much as possible and the aclu's job is to defend that liberty. even we recognize that, of course, in the case of an outbreak, of a contagious, the government has the right to impose on your freedom, but necessity have to be medically necessary. they have to be things the doctor says will actually protect people, are actually going to stop the disease from spreading. all of the medical evidence here, all of the experts, doctors without borders are all

saying this is not necessary. you cannot give someone ebola until after you develop a fever. that is the key point here. and so if politicians are doing things to look good or look tough, that is not enough of a reason to impose limits on people's freedom. protecting the health is enough of a reason but that's not going on here. >> it does feel it's about politics. krystal, i'm amazed at watching the trajectory when these doctors coming back from west africa, this heroic kent brantly moment, people were saying, look at the ail truism to the point where they're seein as a public health threat where they need to be locked down, even forcibly, even they're not symptomatic. and kaci hickox has been the face of it. >> politicians are in large part responsible for the hysteria the public feels and the fact they

view these health care workers, who are noble, who are heroes, who are doing far more to protect the public health than these politicians are by going and fighting the epidemic where it is in west africa. i mean, that is -- they are feeding into that hysteria, which is such a problem. it's been a measured response, i think, from the federal government, not that their response has been perfect, but it has been guided by science rather than polling. i mean, using polling to respond to a public health crisis is immoral and it's insane. >> jay, you've written about that thing, laudatory of the federal response, but in the piece you wrote recently, there's a lot of politics at play and people trying to look tough. do you see that as a way of trying to manage public fear by appearing to be tough and on the front lines against these people who were seen as potentially human kind of threats to the public safety?

>> i think there is a tendency to view people who potentially could theoretically been exposed to ebola as an enemy. and it's so important to remember that these people are heroes. and that they should be treated as such. they put their lives at risk just as much as any soldier in the line of fire in afghanistan or iraq or anywhere. >> i want to stop you. we do also see that the federal government has a certain protocol in place for the actual soldiers who are going over and coming back and that there is a quarantine procedure for them. obviously, the military is? a different position than civilians. what are state governments permitted to do? how far can they go? can they have a state trooper outside of your house if you're asymptomatic and keep you there forcibly? >> the law varies by state. the quarantines are regulated at the state level and the cdc has regulations, guidelines and experts. but they can't order a state to change its policies. the states have the right under our system to go beyond what the federal, you know, laws are.

but many of the states have laws that have restrictions that say, you know, is ththat any quarant must be reasonable, the least intrusive possible way of dealing with the disease. the governor has to declare a state of emergency in a state before quarantines can be imposed. does one former aid worker who does not show any symptoms constitute an emergency for the state of maine? >> we don't have a great deal of time. if this winds up in court, and kaci hickox winds up going to court with the state of maine, how does this play out politically? the public has a woman standing up saying, i'm the face of fighting back against this hysteria. paul lepage is up for re-election. does this play well for him or hurt him? >> with his base, unfortunately, it's an interesting race, split three way. to his base he's respondsing to the polling saying they want this overreaction. they want, you know, to be better safe than sorry.

it takes more to explain the fact that, no, there is month medical reason to keep this person quarantined and yondz that it's counterproductive to keep health care workers who we to want go over and fight this disease where it needs to be fought, it's counterproductive to quarantine them when they come back. >> kaci hickox is not backing down. this is a fight we'll continue to watch. jay stanley from the aclu and krystal ball. can you catch krystal on "the cycle" at 3 p.m. eastern on msnbc and on krystalclear, i've been on that, every wednesday morning at 11:30 eastern live streaming on msnbc.com. that is a must view. it's a great show. now, three things to know this wednesday. nobel peace prize says she's donating $50,000 to rebuild united nations run schools in gaza. that 90,000 -- that $50,000 was the prize for another honor she just received. several u.n. schools were destroyed during the war between israel and hamas.

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estimated 10 million early voting ballots cast nationwide, we are still no closer to discovering who will control the senate come january. in the colorado senate race an nbc/marist poll shows it's a coin flip with mark udall erasing much of his challenger's lead. in arkansas, the poll shows incumbent democratic senator mark pryor within striking distance of his gop challenger. with more than 200,000 early votes cast in arkansas, about a quarter of all the votes cast in 2010, can pryor close the gap between now and tuesday? nbc political director and "meet the press" moderator chuck todd is live with me on his meet the voters tour bus on the road in arkansas. lucky chuck gets to run around the country in that cool bus. i want to talk about the state your in right now. mark pryor, the incumbent, he has a couple things going for him, maybe three if you count

bill clinton. he has the name, pryor name, and tom cotton's vote against the farm bill. are either of those things working? >> it's funny you brought up the farm bill. i'm about to do a voter chat with some farmers. the farm bill hasn't played as big as i think some of us thought it would six months ago. i know privately a whole bunch of arkansas republicans were very concerned when -- he was basically alone in the delegation. tim griffin, another republican congressman running for lieutenant governor, he voted for farm bill and there was some split. but it hasn't played yet. interesting you brought up the early vote, i was with mark pryor an hour or so ago in jonesboro and that was his whole pitch to folks about voting early, going through the specific numbers. oh, in pjonesboro, it's up here.

they made a concerted effort. it's sort of a symbol of why democrats are still in the game. they basically, if you look at this like a -- you and i are florida folks, look at it like a hurricane. in 2010 democrats didn't have any hurricane shutters. in 2014 they have some real hurricane shutters they put in. they with canstand a form of a category 1 or category 2. maybe too much. maybe it isn't going to -- maybe it's too much for mark pryor to survive in a state like arkansas that's so conservative these days. but they're definitely more prepared. you see the turnout gain actually being implemented. it's why things haven't broken in the polls the republican way soth some people thought so. >> because of that florida experience, i feel like a lot of these races turn on the quality of the campaign operations of these state parties. the state parties vary in quality. but you have -- i mean, you have a party down there built by one bill clinton. they have an apparatus that

knows how to turn out the black vote in little rock, the rural voters still open to the democratic messaging. it bill clinton a factor going forward in this race? >> he's a huge factor. everybody in this state assumes he's coming back before the end of the campaign. i know from talking to folks in the democratic campaign committees, bill clinton is obsessed with the mark pryor race. this one is more personal to him than any other one in 2014. so it's basically whatever arkansas asks for, bill clinton is giving them. i thought we would see bill clinton more on the air. that's one thing that surprised me here. there are no bill clinton tv ads. >> interesting. we'll check back in with you, chuck todd. appreciate it. now, perhaps the toughest of the close senate races to analyze might be the one in alaska. democratic senator mark begich is running within a few points

of republican dan sullivan. the state is notoriously difficult to poll since it has a population that's roughly the size of ft. worth, texas, but spread over an area more than twice the size of the state of texas. joining me is steve kornacki. break it down for us. explain this very interesting state. >> joy, you said it right there. difficult to poll. this is something you've probably heard when people talk about the alaska senate race with mark begich. it's something you'll hear a ton between now and election day so we thought we would show you exactly what that means. to do that, we're going to call up, first of all, go back to when mark begich first got elected to the senate, six years ago in 2008. if you would average together all of the polls before election day in 2008, this is what it looked like. this is what the expectations were. mark begich, the democrat challenging ted stevens, republican incumbent convicted of corruption charges. begich was double digits ahead in the average polls.

everybody looked at this in 2008 and said, it's over, stevens, career done, begich has the seat, it's done. then they held the election. they counted the votes and sthfs a nail-biter. this was a 3700-vote gap. begich won, but barely won. the polls were off by ten points in alaska in 2008. that's a huge disparity, obviously. with that as the backdrop, let's take a look at the most recent numbers out of alaska. what you'll see here is these numbers are all over the place. think about polls you're seeing in other states. in most states, yeah, democrats are up in two of one of them, down in one in the next one. that's the kind of range you're usually talking about. look at this, the most recent one, eight-point lead for the democrat. before that, four-point lead for the republican, dan sullivan. before that, ten-point lead for the democrat. before that, three-point lead for dan sullivan. the range on this is much greater, much broader than we're seeing in in any other state. really, this is one of those -- there are two totally different theories about what's going on here. on the begich side they look and say, this is a very republican

state but mark begich has had six years in office, six years to get known by the voters, to make inroads where democrats don't usually do well. necessity say they have invested so much in turnout operation to reach far-flung rural areas, native population, they're in a much better position than six years ago. the republican case is pretty simple. they say, think back to six years ago where ted stevens nearly won and he was convicted of corruption a week before the election. they say in a republican state like alaska, we're running a candidate who won't be convicted of corruption a week before the election. so if stevens can come that close, sullivan will do that much better. so, the expectations are all over the place here. the key thing to remember is simply this, that republican theory is the theory that really both parties have held all year. democrats have quietly expected to lose this. republicans have assumed they'd win it. the most recent polls and that history from 2008 are causing a lot of people at the last minute to rethink alaska and now people are saying, mark begich might

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are saying, yes, this is happening? >> sources in washington, locally and now i just spoke to a state official who say there are backdoor conversations being had about not only, perhaps, pushing or asking the chief to resign but a whole takeover of the ferguson police department. >> a federal takeover are as we saw in some other states. >> it would be the county. the county -- it would be dismantled as they have nearby police stations, the county police would take over. >> i want to play what attorney general eric holder -- he was asked by jonathan capehart was interviewing him at the washington ideas forum. >> i will say it's pretty clear that the need for wholesale change in that department is appropriate. exactly what the forms of that change will be, i think, we'll wait until we complete our inquiry. >> and i think it's pretty clear that attorney general holder, who has announced he will step down, is trying to conclude -- have some conclusion of this

before he leaves. are we talking about a negotiation to avoid a federal takeover of this police force that would involve putting the county in charge? >> at this point the details are still being comme ining cemente. before we get there, the people have been calling for the heads of those leading the police department and also there seems to be something amiss in the way the police department has policed the community. so, from top to bottom, there seem to be some issues. the idea is take them down, replace them and get started with the process of healing. >> st. louis county police department isn't widely trusted either. that's an interesting decision. there are several area schools that have asked the prosecutor to assist them in timely and safe travel for their students by agreeing to announce sensitive information after 5 p.m. on weekdays or on the weekend without preference of the announcement of the grand jury on a sunday, meaning when they announce, what most people believe will be a nonindictment of this officer. how is that playing in the community with the idea of schools saying, do it after 5:00? >> people are anxious.

business leaders, community leaders and now school leaders. when you look at the money and equipment purchased by county police, stun grenades that release a chemical agent and fire off rubber bullets, i talked to protesters who say the idea our protests are being met with a highly militarized police force only adding to equipment, is, quite frankly, very scary. >> if the police don't -- they seem to be tone deaf about this response. what about the city council asking for the state essentially to step in and create some procedures when there are police shootings. how is that playing with people in ferguson? >> one sense it seems legitimate. in ferguson where no one knows how to handle the situation, how to properly handle the initial investigation and then the fallout afterwards. it's needed 37 go to a higher power beyond what's happening in ferguson. on the other hand, it feels like, are you just trying to appease us for what we believe is a nonindictment. that's how people feel. they're trying to pacify the

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we close our show today with our series "generation to generation" which brings together current leaders and the people who influence and inspired them for frank conversations about politics, policy and the state of our culture. recently we sat down with julian bond and sheryl eiffel to talk about what infired their social activism and their hopes for the civil rights movement. >> i'm julian bond. i teach at american university in washington, d.c. was active in the civil rights movement of the 1960s. i'm looking forward to retirement.

>> i'm sheryl eiffel and counsel of naacp, the nation's premiere civil rights law organization. >> what made you become a lawyer? >> i would watch these reels of the civil rights movement and i would just think i was born too late. how could i have not been part of this? and i can still remember the day i saw barbara jordan during the watergate hearings. i had not seen in real time a black woman who was not an entertainer, you know, wasn't especially beautiful. she was a handsome woman, i would say. but had this power and she was holding that power and that moral authority in that room of, you know, white legislators who maybe didn't want to listen to her but had to listen to her. >> my faith in the constitution is whole, it is complete, it is total. and i am not going to sit here and be an idle spectator to the

subversion, the destruction of the constitution. >> and i could see a place for myself. so, from the time i was a very little girl, i wanted to do civil rights and human rights work. >> i suspected that you had a story like that. many women lawyers i've talked to think about a judge -- my couch, my wife's mother's name is constance. >> a legal defense fund lawyer. went on to be the first borough president of manhattan. she was an assemblywoman in new york and later became an a federal judge. this was an extraordinary woman. examples of women like that made it seem like, of course, of course you can do this thing. of course you can become a lawyer. >> appeal to what they thought was a conscience in this country and found that that conscience couldn't be appealed to, it wasn't responsive. that the whole movement, in fact, i think tried to appeal to

that conscience and got no response. >> i came out of the activist wing of the civil rights movement, the student coordinating committee which was founded really to separate young people from older people, even though the naacp had many, many youth chapters. we wanted the organization all our own. >> that impetus of young people remains. so, i've been very supportive of and very encouraged by the youth groups that have emerged. >> the dream defenders. >> the dream defenders is one. >> a group known as the dream defenders have been staging a dramatic sit-in at the florida state capitol in tallahassee. >> executive director of dream defenders, an organization working for social change. >> those that live in sanford know you live in a city that hasn't quite caught up. ♪ oh what sanford's done to me

>> hoodies, millennial au. >> creator of millinal activist. >> see me for who i am! >> this is what democracy looks like! >> show me what democracy looks like! >> i was just down in ferguson and had a chance to meet with lost voices, a group of young people who just have a fire in their belly about wanting a future and wanting things to change. >> and i've always questioned by people saying, why do you have so many different organizations? we have them because each one meets a different need. >> that's right. ♪ we shall not we shall not be moved aside by the water ♪ ♪ we shall not be moved >> but that's our role. you know, we feel like our role is to be there and to -- we have our own agenda, too, but when people rise up and they are engaged in civil disobedience

and nonviolent civil disobedience, we feel like we need to be a supporting role to that effort. >> at the same sometime when i see young people forming their own organizations, good for them, i think, why not come to the naacp? >> i know. ultimately i think it's a good thing because what i've seen with these groups that have been forming over the last year, really since the killing of trayvon martin, which is how the dream defenders got started, i love seeing, and i follow this mostly on social media, the way different young people are connecting in their groups. so it's not a competition. >> now, the american ethnic community has been reduced to two parts. the blacks and those who hate the blacks. >> i always told people when they ask me what does the naacp do, that we fight white supremacy. when white supremacy goes away, we'll go away. >> you have a democracy. it has to be fine-tuned, shored up. sometimes have you rot in it and

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quarantine, which is supposed to last until next weekend. >> i don't plan on sticking to the guidelines. i remain appalled by these home quarantine policies that have been forced upon me, even though i am in perfectly good health. if the restrictions placed on me by the state of maine are not lifted by thursday mortganing, will go to court to fight for my freedom. >> maine is one of several states that require anyone with possible ebola exposure to stay at home for three weeks with medical checks twice a day. the state is also preparing to take to a judge to force the nurse to comply. and another big ebola story line here. today defense chief chuck hagel signed orders to separate all troops returning from west africa for three weeks. he calls it an incubation period, but they call it a quarantine period. even though deployed soldiers are not to have had contact with ebola patients overseas. >> this