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unfoaling in kansas this moment, a plan crashed into the building at the wichita airport. it took off when it lot of an imagine. the pilots of the aircraft tried to turn back and then crashed. at this moment, emergency crews are on the scene tackling what they call a horrific firefight. two people are confirmed dead. five have been taken to the hospital and another five are unaccounted for. there could be more. >> one of the people indicated they were in excess of 100 people in the building. >> firefighters remain inside and a certain that jet fuel could be there too alongside them. we have kelsey ryan on the phone
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and a report with the wichita eagle newspaper. thanks for updating us and helping us understand. here is the scene. >> i am reporting from the newsroom. >> from the reporting that you are receiving. >> we have several reporters that a lot of streets were blocked off and the u.s. 400 and blocked off for a period of time. there was a lot of smoke after the crash, however it looks like authorities were able to get that under control. with the stability of the building, the airplane crashed into a flight safety international building and flight safety is a training company owned by berkshire
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hathaway and they provide flight training and offices in wichita. >> can you tell us more about the mrmg response. what has been done to track down anyone inside. >> i am not quite sure. they are continuing to lock for folk who is may have been in the building. there two confirmed deaths and there was one person and at least five people unaccounted for and five have been taken to the st. francis area with the five people. three are in fair condition and we don't know the other and one is critical and downgraded to critical. you lawyering anything about the cause of the crash? >> we heard mixed hospitals. we have not confirmed engine
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failure, but we are working to confirm that. >> we are keeping tabs. really appreciate it. >> thank you. >> potentially good news about the ebola outbreak. tentative numbers from the world health organization showing new infections declining for the first time in months. they call this real and measurable. this outbreak has been unpredictable. the current toll is at 13,703 deaths. i'm sorry, cases. the number of deaths is 4,920. here in the u.s., a personal side of the story unfolding. the nurse who returned from treating ebola patients in west africa made good on a promise to defy quarantine. kaci hickox left home this morning to go on a bike ride with her boyfriend. they asked her to stay inside
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until november 10th which is the end of the incubation period. we will dive deeper including a live report on the ground on how the community is reacting. making headlines, new comments from ferguson's police chief that he will be ousted in a shake-up we reported on yesterday. he spoke to ms nbc for an exclusive interview and he said he has a job to do. from whom or why they are saying this. it's their business. msnbc reported that the chief and officer darren wilson as well could be gone in the shake-up next week. they have been in upheaval since michael brown protested and sill sparked in the streets. just released a statement about weeks out of the grand jury investigation into this case. he said no information or evidence has been released by
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the grand jury. sad news this morning. thomas menino, boston's longest serving mayor has died. he left and was diagnosed with advanced cancer a month later. he is remembered as a political giant with the fierce devotion and love of the city. he underwent surgery three days before the boston marathon bombings in april of last year. he pulled himself to his feet from a wheelchair to declare that no act of violence could break boston's spirit. he was a founding member of mayors against illegal guns and appeared on our show in june. >> we are not being bold. we are there doing what's right by the american constitution. protecting people's rights and having guns doesn't make it that way. the right to bear arms. i understand if you are a hunter, but too many young
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people say the available of guns is so easy. the gun show loophole and background checks. >> a good man and a strong voice. he was 71 years old. president obama called him bold, big hearted and boston strong. >> putting a human face on the global face of confronting ebola. nurse kaci hickox was asked to stay inside, but she publicly protested the rules and made good on her promises to defy them. she left her house to take a bike ride. she was asked if she met resi resistan resistance. >> did they stop you. is it worth all this? >> it is definitely worth it. >> there is a lot of controversy around it.
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hickox said she will go to court to fight. they are preparing to go to court to force her to comply. >> i do not understand why this common sense approach to ask someone to stay in their home for 21 days during the incubation period why that is not a reasonable request. >> following ha in ft. kent. what's the reaction from the community on this. she is doing the right message and feeling of fear in the face of make people feel better. what harm does it do. and this is bigger than herself.
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this is a bike ride in the form of protest for sure. she didn't. this is worth considering. she could have been showing up in a public place like a restaurant or a store. she didn't come in contact with anyone else in the community. she had support from neighbor who is have slipped notes under the door saying if you need anything, this is an odd place for the showdown to happen. we are about a mile from the border and probably the most -- at least one of the most northern spots in the country and summer in maine. >> we are just getting news right now. governor le page releasing a statement at this very moment. and the broader response saying since the arrival, health care
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workers have worked diligently and tirelessly to address the needs of her and other individuals they are confronting. >> i was ready and willing and remain ready and willing to realmly addressed the needs of health care workers meeting guidelines to make sure the public health is protected. no backing down per se. are there efforts to forcibly control her movements or does it seem like there will be an out come on the legal proceedings. >> i will be curious to see if they mentioned in the statement whether or not they are pursuing the court order. that's what it boils down to legally. when kaci left her house, she said listen, there is no law saying i can't leave my house. i am free to leave my house right now and health officials said they would pursue this court order to compel her to mandate her and compel her to stay in her house. it will be interesting to see how that winds up.
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>> one thing we are hearing is that there were hours of negotiations between the governor's legal team and kaci hickox's team. it appeared that that failed. appreciate your reporting on this. just yesterday, president obama blasted the treatment of some health care workers fighting ebola. standing o long side this missionary, he called for them to be treated as heroes. >> we have hundreds of americans from across the country. nurs and doctors and public health workers and soldiers and engineers and mechanics putting themselves on the front loins of the fight. when they come home, they deserve to be treated properly. they deserve to be treated like the heroes they are. are health care workers being vilified? we have an emergency response physician with the humanitarian
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aid organization. he is with us via skype. thank you for braving bad connections. also an infectious disease specialist from university hospital's case medical center. i will start with you. you worked in the places like liberia in the past. in your medical opinion, should health care workers be isolating themselves on return? >> health care workers who are healthy pose no risk to the american public. this is a disease that is sprez by c spread by the bodily fluids. you are not going to get it on a bike ride. americans who are not doing that have nothing to fear. they need to support the health care workers who are going abroad because if we don't have enough of them there, we will never get this under control and it could spread across africa and the world. >> the forced quarantined of
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non-symptsymptomatic individual not have a medical basis? >> they do not have a medical basis. the cdc put forward reasonable guidelines and what we need is clarity in the united states to make sure that across the country all health care workers traveling abroad and returning get to follow the same regulation put forward with the federal government. they are common sense. they will protect not only the population at large and the health care workers who are returning. as the public, we need to support the regulations and support our health care workers who are going abroad. otherwise if we continue to vilify them and quarantine them and put them into makeshift prisons, no one will be willing to go. if nobody goes abroad to fight it, it will spread outside of liberia, sierra leone and guinea and across the world. the only way to stop it is to stop it at the source and have more humanitarians going abroad.
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>> that's an important point. are you worried about the chilling effect that this stigma could have on the broader fight of ebola? >> i was honored to be invited to visit and view the president's speech yesterday. the gist is very, very clear. we cannot defeat this germ and this epidemic by only playing defense. to continue that analogy, the best way we can prevent and the best defensive we can have here in the united states to prevent the germ from coming is a good offense in west africa. we need to encourage and take the fight and keep the fight over there. anything we do to deter our people and our experts as well as our resources from going-over there is only going to hurt us in the long-term. any of these problems from the stigma standpoint or quarantine is just getting people second
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thoughts and may hinder them from going abroad where they are truly, truly needed. we should embrace the individuals coming back after fighting ebola and continuing that disease over there and shouldn't be worried about how they are taking care of themselves. they are taking care of the sickest of the sick. >> we have gotten reports of supposed discrimination or unfair treatment in omaha and bellevue hospital in new york. what do do you to addressing that? >> it's education. the problem with the stigma stigmatizing is not from the health care worker who is returning, but the people around that individual. the people who don't understand the disease and how it is transmitted or how infectious it is. it is not infectious when people are well and they have no symptoms. even when they begin to have
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symptoms, they are not transmissible. the transmission of this germ happens when you are bed-bound and you are sick in a hospital. what we are seeing for all the people that we have seen, it's health care workers and returning missionaries and doctors who have been treating the sickest individuals. >> dr. levine, new members are out showing fewer and fewer patients checking in with ebola symptoms. they are real and measurable and not projecting the end of the outbreak, but it's a promising new fact. what do you make of the numbers recently on the ground of liberia? >> what this shows, the humanitarian response is working and can work, i helped international medical corps set up the first unit in liberia at the time that we set it up in early september. they had the third highest number of cases in all of liberia. i had almost no cases occurring
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because we set up an ebola treatment unit and we found cases and brought them in and isolated them and broke the chain of transmission. that can be done across liberia and west africa if we can open up enough treatments and staff them with the humanitarians as well as contact tracing in the community. >> important signs of promise there. early, but promising. much respect to both of you. glad you are out there doing this very, very important work. those of all the people in the same situation. appreciate it. >> thank you. >> still ahead, could have been a scene out of the sopranos, but it was governor chris christie being chris christie. >> so listen. you want to have the conversation late e, i'm happy to have it, buddy. until that time, sit down and shut up. >> we will check in with chuck todd and the louisiana mid-term.
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we are less than a week away from mid-terms now. someone who is not even running is dominating the headlines. chris christie hit 37 states this year and raised $102 million as chair of the republican governor's association. he is popular on the road. not everyone is as happy with a rally yesterday. a city councilmember holding a sign that said stay in new jersey, finish the job. he heckled against the santy relief efforts. his response was classic christie. >> you know me.
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if we are going to get into a debate it will get interesting and fun. i understand. so i will be more than happy to have a debate any time you like. someone like you didn't know a damn thing except to show off when the cameras are here. i am here when the cameras are not here and done the work. i did the work. so i'm glad you had your day to show off, but we are the ones who are here to do the work. turn around and get your 15 minutes of fame and take your jacket off and do something for the people of this state. it has been 23 months since then thaw have been flapping your mouth. you want to have the conversation later, i'm happy to have it. until that time, sit down and shut up! any time. any time you like. it's wonderful. absolutely. yep. i'll tell you. there is about 1,000 things i'll
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do tonight and going to dinner with you is about 1,001. >> he tried to invite christ tow dinner and trying to draw attention to a billion dollar program that gets residents back into their homes after the super storm. clearly perceived programs with the program. they interviewed the heckler last night. >> i had a feeling the governor would respond in the way he did. it's unfortunate. he shows show little respect to the citizens of new jersey. >> i spoke with chuck todd and moderator of mead the press on the road for the mid-terms. hooey is in louisiana and i asked him about the christie outburst. >> on one hand it's not. sometimes they love this version and sometimes they hate this version of chris christie. i think now as he wants to be
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viewed as a candidate, it is very different. temperament is an important issue when it comes to people deciding on a president. that temperament issue is usually something we don't pick president who is are too hot or too cold. it will be a challenge for him. the spotlight in new hampshire, voters don't like to be talked down to when they disagree with you. this is going to be how he handles this. if he is thin-skinned now, wait until the presidential campaign starts. if he is upset about a heckler in new jersey, he ain't seen nothing. >> what are about the heckler's underlying critique. sandy was two years ago. do you think the relief recorders will blemish or burnish him?
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>> i think we talk about the different challenges that he has moving from new jersey tow national politics. the record will be a challenge. they have downgraded the bond rating when it am cans to the ability that is not good for the record. the unemployment record is not good compared to the rest of the country. when you are recovering from a major natural disaster, there always people who think they got the short end of the stick. sometimes you give him the benefit and look at the big picture and he can get 90% right, but the 10% that feel wronged may be outspoken and be problematic too. fair or unfair, i think you put all of that together, his new
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jersey record is going to be a hurdle for him. i think he thought four years ago it would be an asset. he tackled tough problems and made tough decisions. now when you look at the record overall, is it a good record? >> you will be keeping an eye on the ups and downs of chris christie. you are in another political hot spot. the senate race in louisiana. i want to talk about that now. there is a senate debate last night who came out on top. >> look, this is about positioning for a run off and mary landrieu the democrat is trying to see if she can find a path to 50%. all of that is about exciting the democratic base to see if she can get turn out to avoid having to face a run off where a bill cassidy is trying to make
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sure he stays the second place candidate. he has been running as if he is preparing for a run off. there is a third that is much more conservative than cassidy. there is no path for cassidy to get 50%. he is hoping to be conservative enough to make sure they show up and vote. this is an uphill battle. louisiana is a pretty republican state in general. it's becoming more so i think as the years wear on. landrieu's challenge is, does her family brand trump the national democratic family brand. look where the national democratic party is when it comes to where she wants to be in representing the interest of louisiana. they are kind of in conflict. that has been a struggle for her. she has the gavel. that should be get out of jail
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free card politically in louisiana. there questions about whether she has the influence to decide what to vote on wiand will she t stuck. >> she will get national high profile support. chuck todd, you are doing terrific work out there. appreciate you taking the time. >> it's fun. >> appreciate that man. he meets candidates and voters on the meet the voters on nbc news.com and follow the hash tag where is chuck? >> we are illustrating how they show this mid-term matters. here's something you can do. the data shows when you pick a specific time to vote, enter that in your calendar, you have a better chance of going through with it. it has been fun to see what side
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you are on when you are voting and what your calendar looks like. tell us whether you are voting on election day or by mail. take a look at your calendar and the hash tag is #ronation. i am voting at 10:30 a.m. at st. john the baptist church. look at that organizer. thank you, paula. jim long has vote republican all set for tuesday. leslie from north carolina took advantage that was state's early voting and said she cast her ballot. keep them coming. it has been good to see. do not forget to vote. there so many numbers showing everyone is apathetic. you guys have proven them wrong. tim cook making a personal revelation this morning and it's having echoes in politics and business. we talked to our favorite
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can get the real answers you need. start building your confident retirement today. tim cook for the first time publicly addressed his sexuality, writing in a powerful and partial essay, i'm proud to be gay and i consider being gay among the greatest gifts god has given me. cook has been open for years with friends and colleagues, but his platform as ceo of one of the most powerful american tech companies meant he can do more and that was worth a trade off of privacy which he closely guards. this is not just a person coming out, he has been getting more political too. using his considerable profile to challenge legislation that allows discrimination against the workers. in his home state of alabama.
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>> as a state, we took too long to take steps towards equality and once we begin, the progress was too slow. on equality for the lgbt community. under the law, the citizens can be fired based on sexual orientation. >> joining us now is a tech executive who knows about diversity, the and only, cara swisher. the tech site with nbc universal that has a significant state. tim has been open about this for a long time. i was at a conference with him. there was not a person in the room that didn't know that privately. how did that change for him or the industry? >> a lot of people might have known and never spoke to him about it. i don't think he did say it in a public forum. i interviewed him many times and we didn't ask him about it and he didn't discuss it. he is probably one of the most
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prominent in the world and it's a fact about his life. he said it so publicly and such a strong way and he didn't back down at all. it's really important. it's an important thing to say out loud. >> he made the point that it's important for him this this kind of position. the study found that gay, lesbian and bisexual people hide their identity at work. how significant is that? >> i did it for a short time. i was not that closeted, but it's painful to leave part of your life out. it's interesting because gay people have to hide for their parents and family in many cases and not just society at large. there repercussions at work still to this day. that's what tim was addressing in alabama. there were no laws in place. he was talking about a law to
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prohibit discrimination in the workplace based on sexual orientati orientation. they can use that as an excuse and it's not something that is actionable. >> it's a big deal for an employer like apple to be outspoken on that. in the tech world is that a difficult path even today? >> they are more tolerant and libertarian more than anything else. it's like i don't care. it does matter that tim cook comes out. there discriminations in place across the country. in tech it's easy. there pockets of discrimination, but it's a tolerant group of people. in the world, it's determiningous in many places and troubling if are a lot of people in different states. >> at that top rung of executives, there is catch up that we need to do.
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we are talking about the only openly gay ceo of the fortune 500 company. and trevor burgess of c 1 financial were gay at publicly traded corporations according to the "new york times." what do you think needs to change? >> this will matter to a lot of people. there is less of a price. they are affiliated again. he was from a strong person and because of boards and all kinds of reasons. i don't expect all of a sudden everyone will come out, but it's happening in news and hollywood. people are more dropping this that goes on. it goes on and on. it will be so ridiculous, but
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today it matters. he did wait until after the launch of his move. do you think that was calculated? >> ultimately he didn't want the products to get mixed up. it makes sense. there is never any good time to come out, but talk about something like a reason to come out. why now? is there a dramatic moment? you get tired of it. you get tired of hiding and pretending and lying. that's what you have to do. you get tired of being asked about it. it becomes a big issue if you make it and pretend and you hide. it suggests that there is something wrong with which there isn't?
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>> he said this is my brick in paving a path towards justice. a powerful piece he wrote. what message do you think he sends and for that. >> i think i worry about gay and lesbian youth. there is a higher tuds rate and there is no need for it. the more people that come out, the better it is. people can look in the media and there is depictions of gays where they are not all tragic and horrible. i know people don't agree with this issue are going to say that's a terrible thing. people live on this planet and he is not just gay, but a son of the south and this is everything. this doesn't mean he is not part of him.
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that was powerful about that quote. he is talking about robert kennedy. 1/5 is never going to like what you do. he is going to deal with the people who don't like it. everyone else will take a moment and say hey, do you care about this? most people, more and more people do not care. that's where it's going. >> it's a great moment to see and great to see ow any subject and your personal take is powerful. appreciate it. >> thanks a lot. >> brittany maynard's decision to die with anything nitty touched a deserve. she has a new message out. take a look. yeah, dinner sounds good. i could come by your place. my place?
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>> welcome back, everybody. you have been weighing in on the competition for the next under reported story. you tell us what stories are being left out of media coverage when we report out the winner. the top candidates are big banks. and the oversight of them slipping. ebola and gay rights are unexpected where they are calling the virus punishment for gay men and women. female leadership in brazil, the victory for the president in that country's election is causing waves and one of the main opponents is a lot of women. so far, drumroll is the front-runner who got a slight lead. you get in there on the website. take a look at the other stories. the san francisco giants winning
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their third world series title in five years with a 3-2 win over the kansas city royals in game seven last night. one of the greatest missing plane mysteries of call time. not that missing plane. amelia ear hart's. they think they found a piece of her plane on an a toll in the pacific ocean. she disappeared 77 years ago while trying to fly around the world. >> the woman who became the face of the death with dignity video released a new video. >> my goal of course is to influence this policy for positive change and i would like to see all americans have access to the same health care rights. >> brittany maynard planned to end her this saturday, but she may live past that if she continues to have joy, loster and autonomy in her life.
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we are happy to hear that. the response to the ebola situation is developing fast and secretary of defense chuck hagel and the joint chiefs of staff are holding a briefing right now with reporters on that response. you are looking at a live picture and we will bring it to you after this break. stay with us. as if they want "big" savings on car insurance, it's a bit like asking if they want a big hat... ...'scuse me... ...or a big steak... ...or big hair... i think we have our answer. geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance.
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upon returning to the u.s. from her current trip. right now we are watching a live press conference at the pentagon. secretary hagel spoke about new requirements from military troops. >> throughout the deployments, dod will remain vigilant to protect the troops, our families and the communities. >> just over 1,000 troops are on the ground in west africa supporting efforts to fight that virus. we know that a dozen soldiers are confined to a housing complex in italy. michael kay is the editor at large. tell us, does this quarantine go above and beyond what you typically see in this health response? >> i think it does. i have come on to men and women and also at home. as an operational commander, one
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of the main roles is to look after the men and women and the troops. they are your effective fighting force you vehicle good at assessing risk. at the moment got to look at ebola wholistically and broadly. and at the moment, there's no immunization or effective vaccine. the only ways are pursuing aggressively the contact tracing and by isolation. and i think that is something that we have to take into consideration and the operational commander, the chief joints of staff will be taking that into consideration with the long-term health and safety of his fighting force. >> and, of course, this goes above and beyond what the obama administration is outlining for civilians. that's a thousand troops in very close proximity. when those thousand troops come back, they will have been in very proximity. the instances about aid workers,
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they're singular people, they've come back, and their ability to spread won't be as aggressive as 1,000 troops. for most of that time, you're confined to a forward operating basis. and so u.s. troops will be used to living in close proximity with each other. so to take this precautionary measure, it's not like it's affecting their civil liberties in any huge way. you effectively sign those away when you join up. >> michael kay, really appreciate your helping us understand. obviously the military's playing a huge part in this response, appreciate it. and stay with us, everybody at home, we're going to be right back in just a moment. tomorrow is full of promise. we can come back tomorrrow. and we promise to keep it that way. csx. how tomorrow moves. what a day. can't wait til tomorrow. mmmmmmm. look out. now there's even more of the amazing cinnamon taste you love on cinnamon toast crunch.
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welcome back, everybody. four people, not two anymore are now confirmed dead from that plane crash in wichita. firefighters remain inside the building at this particular moment. and there's concern that jet fuel residue from the plane
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could be in that building. the ntsb is investigating this crash. and we're told that regional investigators are on their way at this moment. msnbc is going to stay on the story. we're going to give you the latest. and i know joy reid has more coming up ahead. thank you for joining me. it's been a pleasure. "the reid report" is next. and she's going to have more on these developing situations. joy, what's next? >> thanks very much, ronan, appreciate it. next on "the reid report," the latest on the plane crash in kansas. plus, news from the white house on how the president may move on immigration. and is the final stretch of election 2014 gets underway, we'll discuss the high-profile surrogates hitting the trail and why more women don't run for office. "the reid report" is next. (boys screaming) totino's pizza rolls... ready so fast, ...it's scary!
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hello, everyone, welcome to the "reid report." here are some of the stories topping the news hour this thursday. a small plane loses power after takeoff crashing into a building in wichita. nurse casey hickox defies the quarantine order and goes on a bike ride. president obama says he's moving forward on immigration reform without congress. and apple ceo tim cook makes an historic announcement. let's start in kansas where at least four people have died after a small plane lost power and crashed in wichita just a few hours ago. the faa says after the crash, the pilot reported losing engine power and was turning back to the airport to land. when the plane crashed into a
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building on airport grounds. only the pilot was aboard the plane. five people were taken to the hospital, and as of now, four others are missing. anthony roman is the president of roman and associates, a global investigation firm specializing in aviation investigation. you know this plane and that facility really well. >> i do. inside and out. it's terribly ironic that i flew this very aircraft when i flew corporate airplanes. and i trained in that very building to fly this particular aircraft. >> yeah. >> flight safety international is one of the premiere schools. and i don't have stock. in regard to advance flight trainings of jets and turbo props. they actually have level "d" simulators. the motion simulators that you feel like you're in the real cockpit with. and we train for this very scenario in those level "d" simulators to lose an engine. >> how does this