building on airport grounds. only the pilot was aboard the plane. five people were taken to the hospital, and as of now, four others are missing. anthony roman is the president of roman and associates, a global investigation firm specializing in aviation investigation. you know this plane and that facility really well. >> i do. inside and out. it's terribly ironic that i flew this very aircraft when i flew corporate airplanes. and i trained in that very building to fly this particular aircraft. >> yeah. >> flight safety international is one of the premiere schools. and i don't have stock. in regard to advance flight trainings of jets and turbo props. they actually have level "d" simulators. the motion simulators that you feel like you're in the real cockpit with. and we train for this very scenario in those level "d" simulators to lose an engine. >> how does this plane respond to a situation like that where

an engine gets lost? >> terribly. it has some automated systems in it. you have to understand, a turbo prop aircraft actually has jet engines on the wings with giant four-bladed propellers. those propellers create tremendous wind, obviously, that go over the wings and add to the normal lift of the wing. when you lose one of those engines, you have tremendous lift on one wing, no lift on the other or very little. and the aircraft wants to turn into the dead engine and roll into the dead engine. >> right. >> you have to compensate with that with the rudder pedals and the control wheel. however, it's 850 horsepower in each engine. it takes a lot for a pilot to react so quickly on takeoff. so this aircraft is fully computerized and has auto rudder boost. so the rudder automatically

pushes in on the side of the good engine to keep the plane from rolling over. >> right. >> it also has something called auto feather, which is another computerized system which takes the propeller blades on the fail engine and turns them into the wind so that there's less drag. this is supposed to help the pilot bring the aircraft around and land it safely. now, once safely taken off, you should be able to control this aircraft reasonably simply and be able to land it. so my understanding is that they actually crashed into the building during the landing phase. that only means one thing. they got below the air speed for a single-engine operation. very bad. >> so probably pilot error? >> it could be. >> yeah. >> well, tony roman, thank you for your expertise, appreciate it. >> thank you. >> okay. and let's now go to the debate over the ebola related quarantine for health care

officials back from west africa. and the increasingly fraught case of nurse hickox who fought the quarantine by going on a bike ride. trailed by a state trooper and a lot of media. stephanie gosk joins me live from kent, maine. so stephanie, this was actually a really bizarre scene. this young woman decided to go out of her house and take a bike ride with her boyfriend and about 40 members o the press and a state trooper. >> reporter: it was bizarre. one of the things we asked her, why did she do it? and she said, well, we normally go on bike rides. we woke up and decided to go on a bike ride. it was anything but normal. the two got up this morning around 9:00 and left. followed by a state trooper and a swarm of media hoping for comment from her. when they returned, we caught up with them and she had this to say. >> did they stop you? >> they did not, no. >> is it worth all this? >> it is worth it.

>> we said we want to go for a bike ride. >> do you do this often? >> we do. >> reporter: so bike ride kind of in the form of protest. an interesting statement recently released by the governor of maine saying that after lengthy negotiations, they've not reached any agreement. the governor in his statement goes on to say that the state of maine wants to comply with cdc guidelines for people that are categorized as having some risk. among the activities they say would be okay within those guidelines are a bike ride. so at this point, the governor's saying they have not negotiated any kind of deal. he did not mention, however, this court order that a lot of people have been talking about. health officials here in this state also yesterday saying they were going to seek a court order to compel her legally to stay inside her house. that hasn't happened either. joy? >> all right, stephanie gosk. thank you. appreciate it. in ft. kent, maine.

sometimes this business is strange, indeed. let's go to the white house now where days before the midterm elections, we're getting new details on the president's plan to move forward on immigration reform without help from congress. ron allen joins us live now from the white house with more. ron, what does the president plan to do? >> well, joy, we're getting insight into the thinking of the president and what his key considerations are when it comes to immigration reform. and who will get legal protections. and as we understand it, he's considering a minimum amount of time in the country. and also considering carefully that person's ties to other people in the country. for example, what will happen to the parents of u.s. born citizen children. there are tens of thousands of them here in this country. what will happen to the parents of the so-called dreamers who were children brought into this country illegally and have been here. who are married to u.s. citizens. we know those are some of the

considerations, but what we don't know is how they will break down. and this, of course, affects some 11 million people or more and great concern to the immigrant community and the advocates who know these numbers could shrink down to as many as 1 million or 2 million as to who is protected and more importantly who is not deported. this has been a big issue for the obama administration who his critics, of course, have called the deporter in chief because more than 2 million people have been deported in the last six years of this administration. that's a huge sore point for the community. none of this settled before the midterms, delayed because of the midterms and decided as a result of the outcome of the midterms depending upon which party controls the senate, republicans or democrats. interestingly, president obama's about to leave the white house now to go on a campaign trip up to maine and rhode island, two states that have big, close elections for governor there. he has been staying away and perhaps asked to stay away from the key senate elections and battleground states like iowa, colorado and elsewhere that will determine the outcome or the

make-up of the senate. but, again, immigration reform, an issue out there for some time. and we'll see how it all falls together after the midterms. >> thank very much. apple's ceo tim cook, meanwhile, made a big announcement today that has nothing to do with iphones or ipads. an exclusive interview with bloomberg business week, became the first ceo of a fortune 500 company to come out publicly as gay. jon fortt live from cnbc headquarters. what was the reaction to this announcement today? >> well, joy, as you might imagine, there are all kinds of reactions, twitter, of course, lighting up. we should note that within apple, within tech, lots of people knew already that tim cook was gay and "out" magazine back in 2011 when he first became ceo of apple taking over from the late steve jobs, "out" magazine named him the most powerful gay man in business in the country. in that community also he was

known to be gay. but here, he is personally speaking out for the first time and giving a reason for why he's saying this now. let me quote from the essay he wrote in bloomberg business week. he said at one point, being gay has given me a deeper understanding of what it means to be in the minority and provide a window into the challenges that people in other minority groups deal with every day. it's made me more empathetic, which has led to a richer life. tim cook has been a private person, doesn't talk a lot at all about his personal life. and he went on to talk about why he's doing that now. he said, i don't consider myself an activist, but i realize how much i benefitted from the sacrifice of others. if hearing that the ceo of apple is gay can help someone struggling to come to terms with who he or she is or bring comfort to anyone who is alone or inspire people to insist on their equality, it's worth the tradeoff with my own privacy. now, some people might say, well, it's 2014, what is the big deal.

just a handful, fewer than five ceos of five publicly traded companies have come out and said they are gay. there are believed to be many others who haven't made public statements on the issue. and apple's not just any company. it's a huge brand often cited in global surveys as being the most valuable brand in the world. and in terms of size, in terms of market size, how much investors say apple's worth, more than $600 billion more than just about any other publicly traded company, joy. >> all right. thank you so much, jon fortt. all right a reid alert where we learned that tom menino has died after a long battle with cancer. he was the longest serving mayor in boston history serving five consecutive terms. the 71-year-old menino was diagnosed with advance cancer just after leaving office in january. and just last week he announced he would be stopping treatment and cancelling a book tour to spend more time with his family.

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welcome back. with just five days for campaigns to put the finishing touches on their pitch to voters, a flood of famous surrogates are hitting the trail. today, president obama heads to maine and then he'll spend the night in rhode island. and for fellow trivia buffs out there, he'll be the first president since jfk to overnight in that state. we also have the first lady in connecticut and rhode island and hillary clinton in maryland. and she's far from the only surrogate who has or who has had

presidential aspirations. jeb bush hit colorado last night. though, he was mum on whether or not he plans to run in 2016. while mitt romney hit georgia and north carolina wednesday. with plans this weekend to wade into the tight senate and governors races in alaska. while ted cruz is expected to spend two days there in support of the gop senate candidate. and don't forget rand paul, he's scheduled to appear with mitch mcconnell next week. mark murray is nbc senior political adviser. does all of this help at this point when campaigns are in "get out the vote" mode. >> the more people who show up to rallies, the more people who are enthusiastic, the campaigns are able to utilize those crowds, if the state has early voting, they go ahead and send them to go vote early. those people later become the volunteers to help knock on neighbors' doors. if you really do believe in get out the vote efforts having high-profile surrogates to boost

those crowds, boost the rallies does help. >> one of the odd things that now happens, mark, you wind up having surrogate on surrogate attack. it's missing the actual campaign they're campaigning for. jeb bush was out campaigning. and let me play you what he had to say about somebody who isn't a candidate that's on the ballot. >> a former secretary of state who was campaigning in massachusetts where she said that don't let them tell you that businesses create jobs. well, the problem in america today is that not enough jobs are being created, they are created by businesses where people's income rise where they can live a life of purpose and meaning independent of government. that should be the mission. >> so, i mean, mark, if surrogates work, does surrogate versus surrogate attacks going to be undermining the value of a surrogate also work? >> you know, i think this all gets back getting the crowd fired up. as you ended up hearing that line was able to get a response back from that republican crowd. and increasingly, we've seen

this over the past year when it looks like hillary clinton is going to be a presidential candidate that all the red meat that had been 100% in president obama's direction. well, now, president obama's getting about 70% of that red meat and giving the other 30% to hillary clinton. that's what's firing up crowds. you're seeing the republican machine moving away from president obama to hillary clinton if she decides to run. and so that was the context i took. jeb bush's remarks. and if he decides to run for the presidency. and i'm not sure he's a sure thing on running. one way of doing that is dishing out some red meat to president obama and hillary clinton. >> yeah. and what's interesting is it does sort of feel like the surrogates are out there. yes, they're trying to campaign for the senate on the republican side to flip the senate. but they're also table setting for 2016. a lot of focus does seem to be on hillary. one other piece, bloomberg was asking a question about why not cutting tv ads. you're seeing a lot of use of surrogates that way. hillary's not. people closer to the former

first couple have been turning down -- they'd have to do it for everyone who asked. they also said it's an open question how effective a statewide ad would be. so while democrats at campaign rallies may love her, she remains a nationally divisive figure. in hillary clinton's case, and maybe even in jeb bush's case, is there a risk that their national brand winds up interfering with the statewide message of these candidates. >> you know, i think there's a little bit of a risk. but to look back, again, at surrogacy. also to get some down the road. to be able to say, hey, i campaigned for you two years o ago, can you help me in this bid for higher office? and so, there is that a little bit of a give and take. when it comes to hillary clinton, not surprised she's not in candidate tv ads.

for one reason. many of the top battleground states are places like arkansas, states that democrats even on their best day are probably not going to win in future presidential contests. even for the former first lady of arkansas. it's just a very, very tough state. the other thing for hillary clinton is that she's a popular figure but not super popular. her numbers when she was secretary of state were sky high. they've come down to earth. overall, she's more popular than unpopular. it's not by a huge amount that's going to make a difference in many of these contests. >> it is interesting, too, not that she's the only surrogate out there. her schedule tells you something interesting about what democrats think at this point they can swing. maryland today. but going in there for kentucky, going to louisiana for mary landrieu, new hampshire. these women candidates, that is actually a big story in this election, right? is whether or not these women candidates can prevail. because that does actually say something about the democrats' potency in 2016. >> absolutely. if democrats are going to be able to hold on and keep their

senate majority, it's going to be due to female voters and female candidates you mentioned. mary landrieu in louisiana, alison grimes in kentucky. she was able to pull off the upset. this goes to what i'm thinking is going to be hillary clinton's top message if she runs in 2016. and that is the ability to be the nation's first female president. it wasn't something that she really ended up mentioning it too often during her 2008 presidential run. i think people realize that turned out to be a mistake where you had someone who certainly embraced being the nation's first african-american president. but hillary clinton really didn't start touting her opportunity to also be a change candidate from all the past white presidents this country has ever had. i wouldn't be surprised if the message she's going to be carrying to those states with female senators or candidates will be one that she'll end up caring in the general election if she decides to run. >> absolutely. that is going to change, mark, because also probably a lot of obama campaign people working with her. thank you very much, mark,

really appreciate it. >> thanks, joy. >> okay. and now three things to know on this thursday. dozens of national guardsmen will begin patrolling as a slow-moving lava flow threatens several homes on hawaii's big island. estimate the river of lava is moving between 15 and 30 feet an hour. and it's now just a few yards from one home in the area. so far, there's no mandatory evacuation order, although many homeowners have already gathered their belongings and left. investigators, meanwhile, say it could take four to five days to recover all the debris from tuesday night's failed rocket launch in virginia. but with the -- but with the clues they've gathered so far, they're focusing the investigation on the refurbished soviet made engines as a possible link to the massive explosion. the explosion is the first since nasa headquarters handed over cargo missions to commercial operators. and victory celebrations turned violent in san francisco last night as fans took to the streets to celebrate the giants' world series win. and a bunch of them rioted. police say that at least two

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one other point of discussion has been the fact that most of the harassing men in the video are men of color. rob blitz is quoted as explaining, quote, we got a fair amount of white guys, but for whatever reason, whatever they said was in passing or off camera or ruined by a siren or other noise. the final product is not a perfect representation of everything that happened. hmm. so shawna roberts further explained earlier today on msnbc. >> my experience this happens from white men, from black men, asian men, latino men. they all just -- the fact that you have male genitalia puts you in that category. >> okay. something else you're buzzing about, racism. and the name of the washington football team. take a look at this new psa denouncing the team name. and please note, msnbc did not bleep out those offensive words, the video was produced that way. >> i am a [ bleep ].

>> i'm a [ bleep ]. >> i'm a [ bleep ]. >> i am a [ bleep ]. >> i'm a [ bleep ]. >> i'm a [ bleep ]. >> i'm a [ bleep ]. >> i am a redskin. >> wow. that psa was released in advance of a protest planned for sunday. it will demand that the washington football team change its name from that known racial slur. but now to some good sporting news, the 40th anniversary of the rumble in the jungle. between muhammad ali and george foer foreman. you have been sending 1,000 tweets an hour about the fight. buzzing about the mental prowess of the famous strategy and you're tweeting, rumble in the jungle 40 years ago today, possibly the most amazing boxing match ever. and if you can join the conversation with fellow reiders. and now this news. the crash test dummy is getting a makeover and not in a good way.

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director of color of change.org, angela rye and perry bacon is nbc's senior political reporter. and i actually, i'm going to start on the other end with you, perry bacon. you're reporting on this broader effort to sort of get black voters to the polls and really using a lot of this social iconography to do it. what have you learned? >> what you're seeing is that democratic voters overall, not very excited about kay hagan, michelle nunn necessarily, but they are flustered with the leadership of their republicans in the south. nathan diehl, tom tillis, the senate candidate in north carolina who has been behind this that a lot of people don't like. a lot of talk about voter suppression, the very negatively focused campaign in these states sort of running against the republicans as opposed to running necessarily for the democrats.

>> right, and i should play a little piece of the ad. let's play a little bit of it this is what the democrats are saying specifically in north carolina about tillis. let's take a look. >> and tillis won't fight for us. instead, he made it harder for communities of color to vote by restricting early voting and voter registration. ti >> now, we should note that the "washington post" fact checker gave that ad many pinoccios, there's no evidence that he was a leader in an effort to pass the law in north carolina. but i think the key point that i would look at, angela, that the democrats in that case are not running, necessarily, for the democrat. that ad is not about the democrat at all. >> right. >> it's about the voters and voter suppression. >> and casting a vote against

someone who represents the type of leadership you don't want going to the senate. so whether or not. the fact, the debate was about whether or not tom tillis led the efforts to stand your ground in north carolina. that's besides the point. it happened under his watch. just like the president has been held accountable by all types of immigration groups because the senate bill was not passed or considered in the house. you have the same type of issue. it can't happen on your watch. and that is absolutely what we should be holding them accountable to. no, the law did not kill trayvon martin, but for that law, george zimmerman may very well be in jail today and we have to pay attention to those kind of things. >> your organization has not been shy either about going to the well on issues like mike brown, trayvon martin about getting interested going to the polls. >> we've also tried to get these republicans on the record. and when we have, we saw the democratic candidate talk clearly when he was asked the question, do african-american men have a harder time with the

criminal justice system? he said, yes, the republican candidate said no. after all of the data points we've seen over the last several years of time and time again. so it was an organization like ours, we do need to utilize that moment. these points, the things that the candidates are saying and doing and putting them before voters and saying november 4th is right around the corner. if we don't speak for ourselves at the election, other people will. >> and, i mean, one of the other things to say with you -- you're trying to use big data, a tech-driven strategy to get younger voters out. talk a little bit about that. >> well, absolutely. we're looking at drop off voters. folks who voted in 2012 but didn't vote in 2010. and we're reaching them with clear messages, scientifically, you know, tailored messaging to try to reach those folks. then we're following, then we're sort of reaching them in social media after mail, as well. we're trying different tactics to understand while we may not have the sort of yes, we can candidate at the top of the

ballot, there are issues every single day. in particular after ferguson that our community needs to be concerned about. and people need to turn out and speak for themselves. >> and when people talk about the voter drop off among democrats, they talk about african-americans, but actually that dropoff is not that much. it's young voters that have the serious dropoff in midterm elections. the harvard institute of politics, they asked voters 18 to 29, who do you want to control the congress? they said democrats. overwhelmingly, 43% said republicans. when they asked who is definitely voting, it's young republicans that are definitely voting. >> right. >> how do democrats address that issue? >> i think part of it is the same type of issue we have in communities of color. when it's time for candidate recruitment, dccc, the campaigns that run the senate side and the house side on the hill. why aren't there more candidates that look like us and think like us? and i don't mean just people of color in this instance, i mean more women, i mean more people that appeal to young folks. the reason why rand paul with all of his crazy ideals works for young people, he's saying

something unconventional. we need to start recruiting in those spaces where young people will be excited about a candidate. that is why they voted for barack obama. you shouldn't go too far. >> well, perry, then, to that end. democrats who absolutely need younger voters and african-americans to come out. they don't have those kind of candidates. they're trying to steer way to the middle and trying to steer away from barack obama or some of these more hot button issues. how is that working? >> what you're seeing is, michelle nunn says i voted for obama, that's pretty much it. he's leaving in two years. but the black leaders in georgia are doing a lot. they change like the voting rules to where the point where some of the counties near atlanta have created early voting for the first time on sundays. i talked to reverend barber in north carolina. he said kay hagan's fine, but i'm running against tom tillis and the legislator. they're trying to make the case that the democratic candidate may be fine, but the republican candidate, you really don't like this person. in all of these southern states, medicaid expansion is a big deal

that affects african-americans and the black leaders are making a case. and all of the republicans oppose the medicaid -- it's an issue-based campaign saying the republican is hurting you instead of saying this democrat is great. because most are wary of talking about liberal issues and supporting obama. the president's not been in southern states. the campaign is about demonizing the republicans for things they done. >> and one of the key words there is the south. and a lot of the fight is taking place in the south where 50% of after african-americans still live. >> and the reason why our votes matter it's the tipping point, joy. i think we have to stay engaged. this is the election where it's an accountability election. >> right. >> if you want someone to represent you, you have to show up to the polls. you have to demonstrate what your issues are. whether it's ferguson happening in atlanta or somewhere else. if the democrats can use that type of rhetoric, it's time for democrats to be held accountable to that. what are the action items you're going to take to prevent the next trayvon martin, to prevent the next ferguson, voter see

presentation. wh suppression. we have to hold people accountable on both sides. >> will there be a higher percentage in the midterm than 2010? >> i think so. i hope so. we're doing a lot of things to sort of put the issues on the table. but there is an untold story about black participation in this country that it has been on the steady uptick. and black young people outpaced other young people in 2010. and often times we go back and think that black people don't turn out, that is not actually the story here. >> right. >> what we're doing is putting the issues on the table so people know there's an election and know we need them. >> all right. thank you all for being here. >> thank you, joy. and we are hosting twitter chats as part of our election coverage tomorrow at noon eastern. krystal ball will answer your questions, follow along on vote.msnbc.com. it is with two pioneers in

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and this issue of women in politics is very fraught. america really congratulated itself when we got to 20% women in the senate. i'll start with you on this, gloria. do you feel we've come very far at all? >> no, we haven't when we look relative to other democracies in the world. we are way, way down the list like number 70 or so in terms of reputation in our national legislature. we're accustomed to thinking america's the best. and it's not accurate. we're missing a huge amount of talent. >> what do you think, robin, keeps more women from running? >> well, i think money, primarily. but not exclusively. it's become now such a marketplace. and women don't have access to that kind of money. all women, plus men of color, they get the message, not particularly welcome. in the races.

despite that, we managed to get in there and we're still trying. if you don't have a democracy or a media for that matter that is representative and reflects the way people really are -- you don't have the media doing that. you don't have the democracy doing that. >> yeah, and you mentioned the media. we do have a media. and this is according to the report that the median center put out. >> which are brought. >> absolutely. >> men are 63.4% still in print tv and online media. women in terms -- across all media outlets, 65% sources in the "new york times," front page stories, men directed 93% of 2013's top-grossing films. goes on and on and on. so you have if a media that's not representative, is it possible to get proper representation of women candidates that would make them feel comfortable running? >> no, i think the classic thing here is that if you can't see it, you can't bee it. if you don't see candidates who look like you and all those women should be diverse and so on, all those men should be

diverse, you come to think that's a different class of being. this is true even with occupations. if you haven't seen anybody who looks like you in that occupation, you don't think it's possible. also, i was thinking because of your last very good segment, i was thinking about the lack of connection among the issues. for instance, if zimmerman had been convicted of the domestic violence which he convicted, trayvon martin might be alive. there are a whole lot of supremacy crimes, they're not about financial gain, not about any rational thing. they're about through the fact through no fault of theirs, really, these white guys have been born into a system that told them they had the right to control. and when they can't control, they go crazy. i mean, it's only about control and about power. >> and it's interesting you

mention that. because even in our politics, we are now more often talking about issues, talking about control, whether we'll have control even over the access to reproductive medicine. >> that's right. >> and so it's really -- we do seem to be having -- >> it's control in every direction. it's control -- the recent scandal on the internet about gamer gate. it was the young, pale males wanting to control public space and not wanting women in there. and it's extraordinary. i think, you know, we've learned that the most dangerous time for a battered woman is when she is about to leave. >> yeah. >> and i think this has something to do with that. it's a lot of young white male, pale males between ages 18 and 25. are the crux of it. it's sort of the height of testosterone poisoning period. and they sense that the world is changing around them and there's a panic about that, not that it's going to stop us. one of the things we try to do at women's media center is model

what an alternative media would look like, not just criticize. >> what would it look like? >> well, we've got a radio show. women's media center live with me that you have graciously and wonderfully guested on. but, we had recently a round table of all african-american women who had been the main energy force behind why we can't wait, the criticism of my brother's keeper initiative. and it was diynamite and it wen in-depth. and it went into the issues and the subtleties and the nuances. and it's a whole alternate reality. >> yeah. >> that doesn't make it into mainstream media except for moments when people like you get it in. >> well, and the interesting thing is, maybe the sad thing is, gloria, when you founded the magazine, did you imagine we'd be at a stage in 2014?

>> i don't think so. i think i had the illusion we had more of a democracy than we really have. we now are in a situation where we have majority support for pretty much every single issue that has been raised by the social justice movements. but we still don't have those in reality. and so, you know, i don't think i -- that i contemplated that. it's very important, as robin was saying about understanding the nature of family violence. >> yes. >> because it is the microcosm of all violence. the point of which a woman escapes is the point of the most danger. i would say this country is escaping. you know, we're about to, for the first time not be a majority of white or european american country. we've turned against two wars faster than -- >> that's right. >> we've -- were critical of the division of wealth. and the country is escaping. i think what that means is that the people who depend for their

security on the old way are feeling like they're losing control. and it's part of the reason you see such crazy, obsessed rhetoric and violence and such political division. >> yeah. >> it isn't that the majority is okay. >> yeah. >> but the people who are accustomed to control are in a panic and in their own revolt. >> yeah. >> and it's a dangerous period because of that. you know. but i don't think it's going to stop us. i know it's not going to stop us. and that's the good news. women are always the canaries in the mine. you know, that's what, gloria, i think meant beautifully by the example with george zimmerman. and if you look to what the history is with a woman, you see it way ahead of time. but if you dismiss that, the difference is that the miners pay attention to the canaries and our culture doesn't always pay that attention. >> but through the women's media center, you're doing great work to make people pay attention.

and i'm very proud of you. it was wonderful being with you all last night. >> so great having you. >> we've got to do it again. >> you bet. >> robin morgan, gloria steinem, thank you for being here. >> thank you for being there. >> thank you. thank you. all right. and coming up on "reid between the lines," we'll talk about chris christie because, yeah, he's back to his old self. >> listen, you want to have the conversation later? i'm happy to have it, buddy. but until that time, sit down and shut up. ugh... ...heartburn.

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so chris christie's back. >> it's my honor to introduce you all to the president of the united states. >> thank you. >> thank you, everybody. >> no, no, no. not that chris christie. this chris christie. >> so, listen! you want to have the conversation later, i'm happy to have it, buddy. until that time, sit down and shut up. >> now, the occasion for that

particular bout of christie style dressing down was the two-year anniversary of hurricane sandy which devastated the jersey shore and the far rockaways and staten island in new york. it turns out that two years later, there are still victims of that hurricane who are not in their homes and who have no idea when they will be. christie spent much of wednesday visiting shore communities still going about the process of rebuilding. he didn't always get a welcome reception. i'm still homeless two or three years later -- christie said he sympathized with them and doing the best he could to make victims whole as soon as possible. for christie who seems likely to run for president in 2016, the sandy aftermath could be a factor in how he's perceived by the national electorate. christie would be running on his leadership as governor of new jersey. and that record includes vetoing a sandy bill of rights passed by the legislature in may and $20 million spent on tv ads which

triggered a federal audit. is and those sandy victims still homeless and in some cases desperate. but in response to that protester, a familiar christie tic of yelling at people. about whom christie said this earlier in the week about a potential lawsuit. >> looks like you're going to have to defend this in court. >> whatever. get in line. i've been sued lots of times before. bring it on. she was inside the hospital in a climate controlled area with access to her cell phone, internet, takeout food. she was doing just fine. >> she had takeout. it could be his biggest liability. after all, americans like their leaders to be not just strong but also likable. and that wraps things up for "the reid report." see you back here tomorrow at 2:00 p.m. eastern and be sure to visit us online.

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michelle obama campaigning with dan malloy. he's neck and neck with the same man who challenged him four years ago. the first lady today also hit the trail for the democrat running for governor of rhode island. that is also another close race. the president will head there later tonight. but right now, he's in the air on the way to stump in maine. with a presidency that's not exactly flying high. two points above his all-time low. we know obama's not on the ballot. his name alone is bringing republicans to the polls. nearly 60% of registered gop voters say they're going simply to the polls on tuesday to express their disappointment with the president. now, compare that to just 43% of democrats who say their vote will be in support of president obama and his policies. conventional thinking would say president obama is a drag on democrats, but our steve kornacki has another take on all of this. we'll talk to him in a few moments. but first, let's start with the stump.