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>> i will be joined by rand paul. then we have ebola in america. after winning her quarantine showdown. >> this isn't over. >> nurse kaci hickox joins me. i'm chuck todd. joining me with insight and analysis are former chair of the republican party michael steele, nbc's own andrea mitchell, president obama's first white house press secretary robert gibbs and nbc senior little bitle call analyst joe scarborough. welcome to sunday. it's "meet the press." good morning from said election headquarters right here at 30 rock. we're ready for election night on tuesday after my key road trip across key battleground states. i want to get to a poll from three senate races. right now they bring welcome news for republicans, particularly in states where they were playing some defense.

in kentucky, senate republican leader mitch mcconnell has a nine-point lead. he's sitting at 50%. 41 there for alison grimes. grimes of course the likely candida candidate. in georgia, republican candidate david perdue is clinging to a four-point lead over democrat michelle nunn. 48-44. if neither candidate gets 50%, we are headed for a january runoff in georgia. in louisiana, mary landrieu has an eight-point edge in the so-called jungle primary. she leads bill cassidy 44 to 36, rob maness sits at 15. if no one gets the majority, that does trigger a runoff in december. right there, cassidy has the edge over landrieu, 50-45. so this morning, things looking good for republican hopes of winning the senate.

they couldn't lose -- afford to lose either kentucky or georgia. the voters i met made it very clear, they are not happy with either party right now. >> one of the biggest problems in washington is that there are career politicians. from the day they get elected, the next day their job is to get re-elected. >> i would clean on both sides. >> stop the bickering. >> i would love for there to be an independent president that would do a really great job and take people into consideration instead of the party. >> really care about the people that you're representing. >> what about moderates? does that exist? it has become so extreme. >> we don't trust anybody

anymore to look out for the working person. >> i'm not a party line person. i'm a candidate person. and there's a lot of folks in arkansas that are that way. >> i would like some crossing over the aisle. >> a lot of these guys making the rules and laws, they are so out of touch. they have no idea what they are even making the laws over. >> those are your undecided voters. that's why this election is on a knife's edge. by the way, "the new york times" reports this morning, the national republican senatorial committee has already chartered a jet waiting to fly lawyers in wherever there may be a disputed election. things are that close, particularly in places like colorado and alaska. now let's check in on key races. we have the bases covered. we have correspondents joining us from five states across the country. we will start in georgia where we saw michelle nunn is trailing

slightly in her senate battle. casey hunt is on the ground in atlanta for us. this is clearly about a turnout game. right now the democrats' goal is to get this to a runoff. >> reporter: yeah. at this point, it's all about whether or not democrats can remake the electoral. so far, they seem to be doing a good job. 33% are african-american so far. that's where they need to be if they will push jason carter for governor and michelle nunn nor senate over the finish line. both republicans and democrats agree that nunn is probably the strongest candidate democrats have fielded on the map this year, bar none. but whether it's enough is still open question. as you said, both sides are preparing for are a runoff. >> georgia the worst economy in the nation. now to kansas where things are tight between the independent candidate greg orman and pat roberts. kelly o'donnell is making kansas her home for next three days. kelly, this has been about republicans trying to get the

base out versus greg orman trying to find those angry voters in the middle that i talked to. >> reporter: chuck, this battleground thing, it's new for kansas, right? republicans here tell me, they are having trust issues. all the anger at washington, they say that three-term incumbent pat roberts, he has been part of the problem, spending too much time there, not enough time here. that really made that lane for greg orman, who's a self-made businessman. voters say because he won't say which party he would align with, told me he might switch back and forth. they don't know what kind of senator he would be. that makes it tough. all the republicans are flooding the zone. bob dole, the kansas icon, will be here today. greg orman says that's a washington establishment clown car, all that outside help. chuck? >> kelly o'donnell, enjoy kansas, that's for sure. now to florida.

this is the big gubernatorial prize in the country here. all eyes on charlie crist, the republican incumbent there. rick scott. most expensive race in the country. let's check in in my hometown of miami. mark caputo. what are you watching this early vote? is it an advantage for crist? does it feel like democrats are slightly ahead of where they were in 2010, which was a close race. >> reporter: democrats are ahead of where they were in 2010. way behind where they were in 2012. they have make a 130,000 vote margin, maybe less, over democrats in early and absentee ballots cast. that could become significant. the polls are showing that it depends on the poll who is winning. one has crist and another has scott up three percentage points. that's also within the error margin. it's a tie race. dumbest and smartest thing said in politics is that it's all about turnout and it's all about turn out. this election will probably be won or lost on election day. the question is -- by whom? >> that's for sure. and the wild card, that third candidate. how high is his number, and how does he poll? great work covering the race. the other big governor race is, of course, in wisconsin.

mary burke is hoping to unseat republican governor scott walker in his third campaign for governor in four years. charles benson in wtmj in milwaukee. charles, the walker people saw that last poll from marquette university. they were up seven. it shocked a lot of people. does anybody believe the race is actually -- that walker has expanded his lead like that? >> reporter: i don't think either side believes the margin is that big. as you point out, the poll has walker up by seven. two weeks ago it was even. you know this state is interesting. it's not a red state or a blue state. democrats have won the last seven straight presidential races. but republican governors have won six out of the last eight in that time frame. as you point out, governor walker in his third election in four years. go back to 2012 when he wins the recall election becoming the first governor in history to win a recall. he wins with 2.5 million voters

going out to the polls. five months later, president obama wins this state by about the same margin. both sides indicate it's all about getting out the vote. they'll see how that works out on tuesday. >> thank you. as you told me, the 2.5 million, a key figure if turnout is higher than that, that's good news for mary burke. charles, thanks very much. finally, to iowa, where democrat bruce braley and republican joni ernst are reportedly in a neck-and-neck race for the open senate seat. there's a brand new poll out this morning that indicates ernst has a seven-point lead. luke russert is standing by in des moines. luke, that had to be a stomach punch to democrats last night when the final poll came out with that margin. >> reporter: yeah.

you are completely right, chuck. this poll, considered the gold standard ahead of elections here in iowa. real worrisome news for bruce braley. two things that stood out, braley will have to campaign to turn out the vote if he has any chance. the other thing, joni ernst, the republican, actually polling better on the issue of who cares more about people like me. that is something democrats ordinarily do better on. in this case, she's doing a good job. she also adds this novelty to her candidacy, she's a combat veteran. she would be the first woman sent to washington from iowa if she were to win. she's really been able to, through the powerful personality narrative, sort of make braley very washington and very unlikable. something to keep an eye on. if she is to win, she would be the number one surrogate any of those republican presidential candidates would want. >> that's for sure. she could become a quick star. luke russert in iowa, thank you, sir. this is such a surprisingly unpredictable election when you see what the numbers we have nationally. we needed two panels to sort it all out.

joining me now are some of the smartest minds in political analysis. charlie cook, amy walter and two of our nbc pollsters. fred yang, and bill, our republican pollster with public opinion strategies. you have just given us some brand new data. i appreciate that. here is our generic congressional ballot likely voters, say they prefer republican congress, but it's the slimmest of margins. and here is another surprising finding. in the ten senate battleground states which largely have leaned republican, the margin is the same, just one point, 47, 46. bill, your party thinks it has the wind at its back. i feel like republicans are trying to will a wave coming on. one piece of good news, then there's a step back. this is a tight election. >> it is a tight election. the senate seats are in the south. president obama's job approval is 23%. the negative is 64%.

that's a death star number. the democrats have control in the senate. it's too far a stretch. political gravity kicks in. i think the senate goes republican. >> fred, look at the numbers. did it make you feel better? >> made me feel like the things we need to have happen on election day in a lot of the close states is coming to fruition. for a while there's been a voter interest enthusiasm gap between republicans and democrats. now democrats are catching up. the one number from the generic is that with registered voters, voter than likely voters, the democrats have an edge, which means, as the reporter from miami said, it's about turnout. >> charlie and amy, our graphic. all the polls, the most recent best poll in all the senate ball the -- battlegrounds. you have seen kentucky. that's ourses. you have seen iowa. the des moines register, they have a great reputation. louisiana, you saw georgia. arkansas, we had it at two. others have it bigger for the republicans.

colorado, one point, new hampshire, two points in the democrats' favor. kansas, one point. charlie, you look at this, do you think they move in one direction? is this an '06, or do you think democrats have done such a good job maybe they can split the decision? >> our senate editor figured out if you look at the past eight elections that the tossups have tended to break by over two-thirds, 68%, one way or the other. that was the lowest. in other words, the dominos never split down the middle. they all go one way or other. i think republicans are going to win the lion's share. keep in mind, these are home games for republicans. the first six seats that romney won by 14 points or more, and those are probably the first six democratic seats to go over the side. >> amy, is this an anti-democrat year, anti-obama year, or anti-incumbent year? an anti-washington year?

what is it? >> it's an anti-establishment year. the establishment is the democratic party. the president is a democrat. democrats are the incumbent party in most of the senate seats. if you are frustrated and these guys in the polls found that that's the second most important issue for voters is breaking the gridlock. when you are the party in charge, you get most of the blame. >> bill, did the republicans, if they come up short, how are they going to second guess themselves? >> i don't -- first i don't think they will come up short. >> i understand. if they do, what's the one thing bothering you about this? >> the one thing is big money, data analytics and the obama operation in the states of north carolina, iowa, new hampshire and the other places where they are used to running for president. that's what we don't know.

we will see how political gravity, republicans versus that new technology, which wins on tuesday. >> fred, what's the second guessing among democrats? >> well, second guessing will be bad luck to have a lot of road games. >> a bad map? >> yeah. the six-year itch is important. the president's numbers are lower. in terms of the broader perspective, we're going to probably see a record low turnout. on your piece the discussion about anti-establishment, i think voters are voting, they are voting by not voting. >> that is. very quickly to both of you, best and worst campaigns of the cycle? let's give the awards, regardless what happens tuesday. >> i will say cory gardner in colorado and maybe kay hagan. >> that's two of the best? >> best. who ran the worst? >> pat roberts. that's where he is. >> charlie? >> mitch mcconnell. the thing is, this guy -- there were people that did not want to vote for someone that was the most powerful members of congress. he ran a flawless campaign and is pulling away.

governor side, i think governor rick scott is extremely polarizing. but i think they had an awesome campaign. is it enough? i'm not sure it's enough. but sometimes great campaigns still lose. >> worst campaign? >> i think i'm with you. pat roberts. >> i think -- i got to give the award for best to al franken. guess who we are not talking about today? closest senate election six years ago, al franken. recount. all of those things. how did he survive six years? you got to give it to him. i have to leave it there. bill and fred, i will see you a lot. charlie and amy, we will see you a lot, charlie on tuesday. coming up, besides meeting voter, i met some candidates. democrat fighting to win in four southern states. president obama lost in some cases big in 2012. my interview with kaci hickox, the nurse from maine who fought and won her fight over being quarantined. vegetables and tendt chicken.

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welcome back. president obama hasn't welcome back. president obama hasn't been a big presence with many distancing themselves from the white house. it's striking that in the south he hasn't made a single appearance in this fall campaign. for the last leg of my meet the voters road trip i swung through the southern battleground states for the senate and met with candidates fighting for their own political future. our road trip stretched 3,100 miles to the straights that will decide control of the senate. it ended in the south where

democratic dynasties are battling to survive where the president is unpopular. >> in this environment, there are no more get out of jail free cards. they are gone. >> from north carolina to georgia, arkansas to louisiana, while republicans run against the president, the democrats are running away from the president. what should the president learn from this election season? >> i wish he was more in touch with rural america. >> do you think he doesn't understand rural america? >> how the whole country works, not just parts of it. >> mark pryor is the last democrat left in congress. he is in a battle against tom cotton. >> people are as frustrated with anybody in the country. they are not frustrated with me. they know i tried. i tried to bring people together. >> in georgia, the highest unemployment rate in the nation, 7.9% in the backdrop for a battle between michelle nunn, daughter of senator sam nunn and former businessman david perdue. >> my opponent is against

closing tax loopholes that actually insent businesses to take jobs overseas. >> people were critical. dollar general created job and we out sources products. >> democratic senator kay hagan has localized her race, trying to make it about education cuts by the republican legislature, a charge her opponent, thom tillis has tried to deflect. >> if you look at my record, you would be hard pressed to say that we have gone down a partisan path, whether before we had the super majorities or even after. >> you are saying you didn't. but the public thinks you did. this is not -- the democrats in washington aren't popular. the republicans aren't popular. what is the lesson you would take to washington, the lesson you take away from the partisanship? >> we have to produce results.

>> if democrats hold on in southern states, it will be because they win a numbers game, which relies on african-american turnout. in louisiana, senator mary ran drew says the president is unpopular because of his policies but then she added this. >> very, very honest with you, the south hasn't been the friendliest place for african-americans. it's been difficult for the president to present himself in a positive life. it hasn't been a good place for women to be able to present ourselves. >> reporter: in the final days, racially charged messages like these have circulated. the georgia democratic party put there's out. >> if you don't vote, we could have another ferguson here. appropriate? >> you know, i keep talking about ferguson from the lens of -- as a mom, because i think

we all relate to its a parents and thinking about the loss of a young man. >> would nunn have put that out? >> it's not something we have done. i think it's something that merits a conversation by georgia voters. >> our panel is here, michael, andrea mitchell, michael gibbs, joe scarborough. joe, we know it's a numbers game. it's polarized. there aren't swing voters. it's about democrats gets out african-americans, republicans running against the president. how much does that play a roll? you were a southern politician. >> i guess it does, every couple of years. in this case, obama has done well in north carolina and he's done well -- he's done pretty well in georgia. david axelrod said they have been campaigning there. that was shocking that mary landrieu would say that on air. >> robert, democrats have been talking about this privately for years. what say you on this issue, president obama is a factor in his unpopularity in the south. >> i think we can't walk away

from the history of the south. it's obvious. i think race is still the predominant factor in southern races. you see the vote trying to get out the black vote is what is going to either be the thing that sends mary landrieu and michelle nunn to the senate or not. what you see campaigns working on right now are the dropoff voters, people that voted in 2008 and 2012 in the presidential elections stayed home in 2010. the data are trying to search for those voters and get them out. >> michael, one thing we are not talking about is republicans targeting african-american voters. it's not happening. >> they are leaving the playing field to the democrats. there have been efforts by the rnc who put efforts in the ground at certain communities. it has not been there. they have ceded a lot of that ground to the democrats.

it's interesting because there is not an energy in the black community for democrat candidates this year. we are seeing it in maryland where the african-american candidate is struggling against the republican. >> let's talk about this as a bigger picture here. does this feel like the same type of midterm election you have covered before, that we are headed to a mini-wave in the republican direction. or is there something different about this one? >> what's different is also a negative for democrats. what's different is isil, ebola, a feeling of insecurity and the economic data. the fact that people are not seeing the progress in wages, in their income that they are seeing in terms of the overall number. the gdp is plus three and a half %, but they are not seeing it in their earning power. >> really quickly, if you had told me a year ago republicans would be sweating it out in north carolina, georgia, louisiana and arkansas a week out, i would say, this isn't going to be a republican wave. so i don't think talking about african-americans, voting

patterns in the south is a legitimate question. i think the bigger question is, why aren't -- why haven't republicans closed down north carolina, georgia, louisiana and arkansas by now? actually, i think -- the question is not about race. the question is about the republican base still disaffected. >> what it is -- what i found out, it's the economy. nobody is touching this. rural america, the economy, still stinks. democrats didn't talk to it very well. republicans haven't talked -- they say, anti-obama. they aren't talking about what's staring rural america in the face. >> you asked the previous panel the second guessing after this race. i think it is the fact that neither side -- i think democrats needed to spend more time talking about what to do on the economy. as andrea said, the numbers may look different than they did in 2008. but it's how people feel it in their lives every day that -- >> the numbers don't look

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party gets control of the senate, of the voters said they are voting for the republican party or have the voters simply said they are voting against president obama and it's not a mandate for the gop? how should the gop interpret winning control of the senate if that does happen? >> i think it will be a combination of both. this is going to be a repudiation of the president's policies. the president is on the ballot in a way. this is a referendum on the president. no question, this is a big message to the president. but also it's a message the gridlock in washington is largely been from the democrats who haven't allowed any legislative to come forward in the senate. i think if we win, you will see legislation passed. you will see legislation sent to the desk of the president. >> a lot of democrats would say house republicans, you know, and some other people were responsible for the government shutdown so that both parties blame here. i want to ask you something about what you said the oert day in michigan.

you said, remember dominos is about the brand. they admitted, our pizza crust sucks. the republican party brand sucks, you said and so people don't want to be a republican and for 80 years african-americans have had nothing to do with republicans, why, because a perception. the problem is the perception is no one in the republican party cares. you are admitting you have a brand problem. how do you fix the brand problem before 2016 if that's the case? >> i think you have to show up and then you have to say something. i've spent the last year showing up everywhere from howard university to berkeley to the urban league to ferguson, to the naacp. we have to show we have a policy. do you know what i'm sensing in the african-american in the big citieses? i'm sensing -- they say this to me time after time, we are being taken for granted. the democrats don't show up, haven't seen my congressman lately. i think there's a huge opportunity for us.

while not everybody is ready to become a republican, many people say they are glad i'm there and they want us to compete for their vote. >> the distrust of the republican party in the african-american community gets enhanced when they go for voter i.d. laws. you have been on both sides. you thought it was -- you said at one point the voter i.d. law drive was sort of over done by republicans and then you walked it back. which is it? >> it's funny the way you describe it. my position is pretty clear. i don't think there's a problem with showing your i.d. but i do think there's a problem with republicans saying, our big issue for the campaign is going to be voter i.d. what it creates is -- a lot of african-americans understandably remember the '40s and '50s in the south and suppression of the south. what i try to do is i say the opposite. i want more people to vote. i'm for enhancing vote. i sponsor a bill that would

restore voting rights to people who had youthful, non-violent crimes that served their time. there are 250,000 people who can't vote because of an old conviction. i have a friend whose brother had a conviction 30 years ago and can't vote. i want to restore votes. i don't think it's unreasonable, i just think it's dumb for republicans to emphasize this and say, this is how we're going to win the election. early voting should be out there for everybody. i'm for early votes, more voting. let's go to the black community and compete for the vote. let's talk about criminal justice and school choice and economic opportunity. there are ways we can get african-american vote to come to the republican party. >> let's talk about a republican agenda if you get control. are republicans going to send a repeal of healthcare -- the affordable care act to the president's desk or not? mitch mcconnell said it was a priority. then he said we don't have 60 votes. it's not going to happen. he said maybe with 51 we can do it. are you lying when you say you are going to try to repeal healthcare?

is it a serious effort? is is it something to gin up base turnout? >> we should repeal obamacare. i think what made people most unhappy is they lost their freedom of choice. it isn't about the wonky healthcare policy. it's about whether every american can choose their doctor or choose their insurance policy. when they have made it illegal through obamacare to choose an inexpensive insurance policy, that should be overturned. >> so it's a priority? >> definitely a priority. we will introduce it and try to pass it. >> very quickly, in 2016, do you delay the start of your presidential campaign because you think republicans should try to have an agenda in the senate for six months? >> i have always said it's going to be spring until i make a decision anyway. my number one priority for january will be, there's $2 trillion of american profit overseas. i'm going to try to pass a bill to bring that home at a reduced

rate, put the money into roads and bridges and say we have problems here at home. let's rebuild america. let's do nation building of america. there's bipartisan support for it. barbara boxer supports it on the left. i support it on the right. the president once upon a time supported it. my number one priority is to lower the tax to bring american profit and jobs home in january. >> rand paul, republican, junior senator from kentucky. in many ways king maker on the campaign trail. we will watch you tuesday. thanks very much. >> thanks, chuck. >> quick reaction from the panel. joe, i saw you -- >> we were saying during the break, republicans are going to have to have a positive agenda. republicans that are out there in red states talking about cutting education, cutting infrastructure are losing, even among -- i said five minutes ago, they will have to start talking about more than just cutting. he just did. >> rand paul has figured this out. >> he figured out. it's smart, except for the repeal of obamacare which say waste of time. >> and it's going to set the wrong tone.

>> it's retro. >> how do they do it? >> exactly. everything else he said and talking about reaching out, going to the african-american community, he's parsing it on voter i.d. i don't think -- >> he's trying to -- the base has this -- it's a fetish. >> he's trying to have it both ways. >> it's not a fetish. there are some of us that actually believe. >> is there voter fraud? >> by the way, i got 50% among african-american voters in my district. i campaigned in predominantly black districted. i don't think most americans are freaked out when you say you should show a picture i.d. when you go vote. >> i think the issue is sort of how many forms. >> by the way -- it shouldn't be -- republicans shouldn't lead with that. it's a big -- >> it's disadvantaging people that don't have i.d.

>> the problem in voter i.d. and in restricting early vote is so more people won't vote. the news on that answer was, he wants to expand early vote. let's expand early vote. let's have 30 days of people voting so that working people don't have to leave work to go vote. let's do that. >> michael, very quickly. >> in colorado, things are going well for republicans -- >> but democrats -- >> michael -- >> rand paul has done this the smart way. he has listened to what people have to say. his conversation in the black community is a legitimate conversation he has been having for over a year. i said for that same period of time, watch him. number two, the perception matters more than anything else. if i perceive that your policies are racist or impinge upon my access, it's real. all the talk about what's real or isn't, doesn't matter if i feel you are suppressing -- >> he's the only republican -- >> got to do the pause button. a brief break from politics. we will turn to ebola in america.

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the death toll from ebola is approaching 5,000. the situation is dire. here there has been a debate over the quarantining of health workers returning from west africa. with some of the most prominent governors arguing for compulsory quarantine orders. all week long, kaci hickox of maine has been fighting a public and ultimately successful battle against her state's efforts to quarantine her. on friday a judge ruled in her

favor saying she did not need to be isolated as long as she is monitored for symptoms and lets health officials know where she is going in the state. she joins me now and her lawyer is here in the studio. let me start with your court victory. what was the goal in winning this court battle for you? >> well, you know, definitely the goal was to make sure that we are again talking about science and not politics. i just read an op-ed today. when governor christie stated that it was an abundance of caution, which is -- he is reasoning for putting healthcare workers in quarantine for three weeks, it was really an abundance of politics. and i think all of the scientific and medical and public health community agreed with me on that statement. i'm really glad that the judge also agreed looking at the law. >> your home state governor

there said a couple of things after this order on friday. number one, he said -- they are talking about you. she violated every promise she made so far. i can't trust her. he said he will abide by the judge's position. he said this about ebola. when you hear the governor say we don't know what we don't know about ebola, what do you say to that? the monkey is on the judge's back, not mine. we will abide by the opinion. what do you say to that? >> i think that's a very true statement. we don't know what we don't know about everything in the world. but we know a lot about ebola. we have been researching this disease for 38 years since its first appearance in africa. we know how the infection is transmitted from person to person. and we know that it's not transmitted from someone who is asymptomatic, as i am and many other aid workers will be when they return.

so i hope that upon reflection, maybe he will change his tune as well. >> this morning in an interview you did you said because the community is concerned that you and your boyfriend were going to essentially stay clear and sort of self-quarantine. can you explain how you are going to do that? >> yeah. i want to clarify that a bit. i understand that the community has been through a lot in the past week and i do, you know, apologize to them for that. i will not go into town, into crowded public places. i have had a few friends come visit me in my home. that's absolutely fantastic. but on the other hand, you know, my partner is currently in nursing school. there is zero scientific evidence that says that he shouldn't be allowed to return to his campus on monday. >> do you think there should be different rules based on population centers, that in new

york city they should be -- there should be more precautions and different rules than say in the part of maine that you live in? >> i absolutely don't. again, i think when we look at the man from liberia who unfortunately died of ebola, no one else in his family has become ill yet. so, again, when we're looking at the science of how this disease is transmitted, it's not like influenza. and we don't quarantine entire families when one person is positive for the flu. >> very quickly, are all healthcare workers going to need lawyers? >> hopefully not. hopefully this is a terrific win for healthcare workers. their voice need to be heard in this debate. it should not be the politicians. it should be the medical people. >> how do you feel about being parodies on "saturday night live"? >> we don't have cable here.

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the 2016 contends have been making their presence felt all week long. kelly o'donnell has been tracking that progress. >> reporter: campaign 2014 frequent fliers. >> charlotte's grandmother, my friend and yours, hillary clinton. >> reporter: after months insisting they are not the main attract. >> i'm the interlude. i'm the halftime. >> reporter: clinton's 2014 tour covered 16 states. jeb bush made stops in 10. chris christie traveled 70 days hitting 37 states. they are among the most watched members of the 2016 contemplators club. >> well, it is true. i am thinking about it. >> i'm obviously thinking about it. >> reporter: then george p. bush did his thinking out loud, claiming his father is more than likely to jump in. the former florida governor

said, hold on. >> you love him to death. they have their own opinions. i will make up my mind at the end of the year. >> reporter: clinton did the talking that raised eyebrows when she veered left. >> don't let anybody tell you that, you know, it's corporations and businesses that create jobs. >> reporter: when a heckler got in chris christie's face -- >> you want to have the conversation later, i'm happy to have it. until that time, sit down and shut up. >> reporter: his leadership style bellowed far beyond new jersey. there was no apology tour. >> its advice i got from my mother a long time ago. christopher, just be yourself. >> reporter: the thinking about it class of 2016 is on this message. they are not in any hurry. for "meet the press," kelly o'donnell, nbc news. >> panel is still here. we will go back and we will project the senate. you are going to -- let's go 2016 quickly. who has had a better 2014 in

your opinion, robert? has clinton had a good enough 2014? >> well, look, that's going to be a process that takes more time than just 2014. i don't think she has had a particularly good run with the book. i wouldn't have done as many interviews as she did. she hastened the process of republican attacks, which were going to come. but i would have waited. i will say as a democrat sitting here, you have to be impressed with what rand paul was saying. to have a positive talking point before the election is hugely important. i think jeb bush is one to watch. >> it's interesting on the clintons here. democrats are desperate for the party to become the party of bill clinton again. >> bill clinton has been the most popular democratic surrogate.

i don't know how you lose a book tour. that's a hard thing to lose. she's got plenty of time to regroup. changing her position, she's from wall street. she has taken the money. she was a senator from new york. you don't have to apologize. she has to be authentic. but she has time on that. and she has enormous advantages. >> who is the republican front runner? >> rand paul. he's in all 50 states. he has young folks gravitating toward him. he has african-americans taking a pause and looking at him. as was acknowledged, democrats are saying, let's see. >> the party establishment is against him. >> that's separate. in terms of '14, he has done the best. >> do you agree with that? >> no. rand paul is going to run a great race. he's going to do bert than his father and he's not going to win. main street republicans win. you have jeb or chris christie. who had the best 2014, mit romney.

he was right on russia and iraq and in the debate. >> unbelievable. >> let me say this. i would argue in 2014, the other candidate we're leaving out here, john kasich. he could be a governor. >> it's a great point. he won with 49% of the vote. >> this time he will win with 60. i got a toy here. we can pick the final. the final ten are here. let's -- i don't know any democrats that think arkansas -- let's assume the polls are right on arkansas and let's assume the polls are right now with kentucky. that gets republican at 47. they need four more. where do you go? how are we feeling about collectively on georgia? >> runoff. >> iowa, republican. >> i will put it the over here. >> colorado? anybody here or are you nervous?

>> i'm not. only because republicans have 100,000 votes in the bank. >> the governor race is trending democrat. >> if you give them that -- we will say we got two runoffs. new hampshire, shaheen for now? >> yes. give us north carolina. >> give you north carolina. >> republicans have to find two and they can't afford to lose kansas or georgia. let's keep kansas in here. let's say alaska goes to form. they sit at 50. this is how the night could end up. two runoffs and greg orman in the middle. >> even though i have been predicted mary landrieu will win by 6 1/2 votes. >> she always wins by 6 1/2 votes. >> i don't see louisiana in a runoff going democratic in 2014.

>> if it's for the senate. this is why this is on a razor edge. >> that's why. and i agree, i think louisiana at the end of the day will fall for republicans in a runoff. >> i think shaheen is in real trouble. she should have a lot of -- >> new hampshire is the wave test. if scott brown -- that's an -- if scott brown on the east coast, if that's where it's happening and brown is winning -- >> i keep thinking that shaheen will win new hampshire. i keep hearing from democrats that she's in trouble. >> there it is. last word. >> biggest is geography. new hampshire is a purple state. she went with 52% six years ago at a high water mark. a bunch of the races, even kay hagan -- >> in a midterm year she lost a race for the senate race. before we go, i should share lighter moments from our road trip where interviewed 43 voters, 10 candidates, seven states. here is my advice for surviving a 3,153 mile road trip. it's about roadside coffee. ♪

>> i like regular but -- bratwurst. they won't let me drink beer right now. good roadside coffee in the north is dunkin' donuts. good roadside coffee in the south, waffle house. that's why we are here tonight. my go-to snack. nothing better than gas station coffee. undecided? two hours of show in one. that's all for today. remember to join brian williams and myself and many of these

folks here for election night. we will have complete coverage. we will be back next week to try to figure out this agenda at this point, because if it's sunday, it's "meet the press."

out of control. >> he's driving a car. >> and reckless. there is no limit to what can go wrong. >> i don't know if he had a gun, a knife. >> what happened to my legs. >> senseless, dangerous and potentially deadly.