gridlock? it is friday november 7th and this is "now." president obama just met with congressional leaders of the two major parties. >> it's his first meeting with leading lawmakers. >> i'm not going to judge ideas on whether they are democrat or republican but on whether or not they work. >> doesn't mean there will be daily renditions of "kumbaya." but we can be realistic. >> immigration continues to go down these dual tracks. >> i don't think the republicans are going to the anything about immigration. i don't think they want to. >> you want a legacy, fight. >> the president has his own nuclear weapon. >> is there a way the president can do things with executive action? >> the big issues are as divided now maybe more so than before

the election. >> after a rough mid-term election day, the democrats were sizing up a new political dynamic at the white house over power lunch. president obama hosted a dozen democratic and republican leaders for a nosh in the old family dining room of the white house. the president announced that america is hungry for cooperation. >> the american people just want to see something get done here in washington. they are frustrated by the gridlock and would like to see more cooperation and i think all of us have the responsibility, me in particular, to try to make that happen. >> the meal was followed by policy and briefings by pentagon and administration officials on key issues ahead of the lame duck session of congress. it is worsds hoping there were libations on hand to ease post-election tensions. the lunch comes a day after an

emboldened house speaker, john boehner, warned the president would get burned by acting alone on immigration reform. and kevin mccarthy issued a similar but slightly muted note of caution. >> we talked about the idea of trying to move forward and we expressed to him if more executive actions are taken that would make it difficult to work together. >> but the white house said the president is ready to move on those actions unless speaker boehner plays his trump card. >> he's going to take that executive action before the end of the year. but there is -- speaker boehner and the other members of the house republican leadership will be arriving at the white house with a trump card up their sleeve. if the house passes that senate bill the president won't take the executive action. >> a trillion dollar spending bill is needed to avert a

government shutdown on november 11th and congress has to reauthorize the training and arming of syrian rebels and whether to formal i authorize military force against isis. the pentagon announced the deployment of up to 1500 additional u.s. troops in a non-combat role going to iraq. even after lunch the current congress has much left on its plate. joining me is josh barrow and reporter kate nocera. you are here and not in washington but it's in terms of the optimism on the hill, we know that boehner and pelosi have statements. we'll read those going into this suggest. but is there a sense that anything will get done in the lame duck session or in january? >> not really. the senate might take up some stuff. they have to get things done to

avoid a government shutdown. >> that is the biggest ticket item. >> and if we know anything about this congress, their attention span is minimal. >> to be you've mystic about it. >> so they can't focus on more than one big ticket item at a time. i would be surprised to see anything other than it. >> and the speaker saying if you play with matches you get burned and the president and his advisers saying this is going to happen. >> it's a strange threat. the odds that a comprehensive immigration reform bill will pass in the next two years are zero regardless of what the white house does. look at the election cycle. eric canter went down in a primary about immigration. republicans took a hard line on immigration and won seats in the house and were not punished and

picked up a seat in the central valley of california where it is a problem the be against immigration reform. >> colorado as well. >> so this is an empty threat. the republicans are not going to pass a immigration bill if he takes executive action or if he doesn't. >> i don't know why the white house doesn't say that boehner is sitting on the bill. why not just put the sort of -- hot potato directly in boehner's lap and say john boehner, if you take a vote, david axel rod suggested. take a vote on this. >> that is what earnest was suggesting today. we feel that it would pass in the house. and so, do this. and just bring it to a vote. >> but why hasn't he specifically, i guess put baner in the hot seat on it? >> there is this weird face for the last two years.

they have wanted to give them all the space they possibly can. because they actually believe that john boehner wants to get this done and they see these signs in the air that boehner will do it and they believe it. >> and that's not happening. >> i don't know why. >> john boehner wants republican interest groups to think he wants to do it. >> big business wants comprehensive immigration reform bill. they want their republican allies to get it done. but republicans know it's all downside and no up side. >> but they look at 2016 and think if we don't do this we're not going to win a national election again. congressly, maybe. >> john boehner's problem is to hold a lot of seats in the house. >> let me ask about the authorization of the use of military force. we should be doing all of these things but in particular this is something that republicans in theory should want to do which is one of the most important pieces of congress which is

oversight in times of war. john boehner released a telling statement and said that he welcomed the president's decision regarding a new authorization to defeat and destroy isis but reminded the president that historically the commander-in-chief has identified the need for the use of military force, sent it to capitol hill and worked to build bipartisan support for its passage, the speaker urged the president to do so in this case. basically, president obama can you do my job for me? >> boehner would be really happy not to take up another aumf. it's an interesting sort of split in the house between, you know there, are lots of folks on the republican and democratic side who have been begging for a vote on this just to do something. but boehner would be happy not -- >> the idea that the president -- john boehner still has a lawsuit against president obama and his overreach in terms

of power. here is a concrete way that the republican congress can curb the president's power and they are choosing to outsource it to the president. >> but they own the foreign policy. >> of course. >> republicans and democrats don't want this on their shoulders. they want the president to own it. but this congress and this has been true for years, it doesn't do anything it doesn't have to do. what has changed there is not a lot this congress has to do. we went through a period of years where we were going through constant crises, failing banks and a massive recession and normal budget deficits. you can put most federal policy on auto pilot for the next two years. we have a ready-made budget deal -- >> that's the question. is government funding and whether or not there is going to be budget brinkmanship. given what mitch mcconnell has said that is how they hold the president's feet to the fire. >> but i don't think mcconnell

wants to kick off his majority leadership in the middle of a shutdown. i suspect they will work something out to at least get them through early january. >> so far into the future. >> it will certainly be early january. i don't think they want a government shutdown in the first few months. ryan has co budgeted a deal that takes you through the end of 2015. say, let's handle various other important policy areas like repealing obamacare or whatever else it is. >> like the lafayette. >> the republicans want to do. >> there will be to be a fight over government spending levels. >> let me ask you about leader pelosi. politico says frustration with pelosi simmers with democrats.

what is the word on the street? >> i don't think anyone else is going to step up or wants to step up. >> the last part is the important part. >> everyone is like, okay, 2016, right? that's the time. but she -- people are frustrated with her. they want to at least see some change at the top or only change in the message because clearly what they've been doing for the -- >> hasn't worked. >> has not worked. >> or at least the last election cycle. we talk a lot about democrats and republicans coming to the table. this could be as josh green says in "business week" could be characterized by interparty fighting in terming the progressive agenda and republicans battling on issues of fiscal stewardship and military force and foreign policy in general than the two parties coming to the table. >> the republicans start the

recrimination phase of their campaign. and i thought that can be a healthy process. >> there have been plenty of headlines from the conservative media saying this is not a time for republicans to govern but to work on a strategy. >> republicans have been there for years. but i think at least for democrats, this can be a healthy fight. because a big part of the problem for democrats is they didn't have an economic message for the middle class. the democrats miss understood the minimum wage. when the president says let's give america a raise, americans with moderate incomes who don't get a raise look at that and say, they deserve a raise but where is the middle class economic message. that's something that democrats would be well advised to think about. >> the republican economic policy is basically tax cuts? i think both parties would do well to have a wagon circling to figure out what they stand for. we have to take a break. when we come back, it was a good

month for the economy. it has been a good 56 months for the economy. we'll look at the reality of the recovery you won't hear about from the republicans. and why john mccain says the white house is playing footsy with iran. did the relationship wave make it easier for hillary clinton to run for president? all of that is ahead of "now." than ever why now is the best time to be on verizon. one: verizon's the largest, most reliable 4g lte network in the country. that's right america. with xlte in over 400 markets. two: and here's something for families to get excited about. our best pricing ever! get 2 lines with an incredible 10gb of data to share for the low price of $110! or just $140 for a family of 4! and three: get $150 credit for every line you switch. the more you switch, the more you get. verizon.

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years. putting the nation on track to have its best year for job growth in 15 years. 15 years. and a separate labor department report said more than 683,000 people reported they found a job last month. given all this, why are americans so pessimistic about the economy and why did a majority of the economically dissatisfied vote for republicans? that is a paradox likely answered by the fact that in the face of great jobs numbers, corporate profits and stock market highs, wages are barely rising. in october average hourly pay rose 3 cents, adjusted for inflation, median household income is the same today as it was in the year 1987. this is a decades long issue that is not likely to be solved by one election or one party but it's if americans want higher wages, perhaps they should start voting for the party that

prioritized them. joining us now is former chair of the council of economic advisers and professor at the university of chicago booth school of business. thanks for joining me on a good news day in terms of the u.s. economy. although you are hard pressed to find information pointing to the good news anywhere. in terms of the numbers we rattled off which to you is the most important to pay attention to? >> i think for the jobs numbers, the most important number to pay attention to is how many jobs were created rather than the unemployment rate. i think the critics do have some point, which is the unemployment rate today is different than what the unemployment rate meant ten years ago, 40 years ago because you have all these issues of labor force participation. but the number of jobs getting created has been pretty solid not just this month but on a consistent basis for a lot of months in a row now.

it just hasn't been stupendous and when growth is moderate and modest, people don't really want to get out front and try to take credit for the economy because, look, next month or next quarter could go down and there would be egg on their face. >> but let's show the chart of u.s. jobs gained or lost after the president took off. is it a stunning reversal. >> i agree. >> and someone worked in the white house on this. i suggested making mugs with this chart or t-shirts or something. because there is a broad swath of the american public that has no idea this is the reality. is that a failure of this white house in terms of delivering the good news? >> look, maybe it's a message thing, but i think it's a -- we all human beings have a certain self protective delusion. so in january of 2009 when we come into the white house, i got colleagues that are calling me

and saying there will be another great depression, you shouldn't be saying you are going to avoid it you should say you can get us out of it. if you had said to anyone in america in january of 2009 that we would be here today in 2014 with so many months of job growth that we'd have consistent 200,000 a month, people would say i'd trade you anything for that, please, dear god be correct. but looking back we have put that out of our mind. we lost the scary part. >> josh, you are shaking your head. >> under ordinary economic circumstances, 200,000 jobs a month is an impressive pace but it's when you go through a severe recession like we did you are supposed to go through a period where you go through really fast catch up job growth.

we never had that recovery to offset the sharp decline in jobs. we had modest pace of job growth and people are looking at it saying the economy is coming back but way too slowly. >> let me ask you, austin, the question that things aren't that much better. exit polls from the elections this week, 2/3 of the respondents said they believe the economy is getting worse. the biggest job gains were in food service, retail and health care. these are not high paying jobs and wages have stagnated. why are employers not paying more? there are a lot of theories out there. some say it's because some employers didn't lay off employees during the resoever -- or they laid off folks and should have cut back on wages and are hesitant to raise wages.

what do you attribute the wage stagnation to be? to what do you attribute them to? >> i think you have some insight here that, a., wages clearly are part of why people aren't feeling that great. but the barrow observation -- >> that is a trademarked observation. >> we have job growth but it's not stupendous, that is part of it too. the economy has improved substantially but it's not improved gang busters. and so people are nervous. i think that employers don't want to pay more wages than they have to pay. and the job market is not so strong that they have to give big wage increases. that's just the reality and part may be from globalization. but i think the majority part of that is just that the recovery has been moderate, not really strong. and therefore they don't have to pay higher wages. >> you know, kate, when we talk about the drubbing or

shellacking or whatever phrase you use to describe tuesday everyone has gone back to this, democrats are offering -- you look at the issues that americans agree with democrats on, raising the minimum wage, immigration reform, corporations not paying enough in taxes. upper income people pay too little in taxes, but they voted them all out of office. >> and the minimum wage measures passed. i do think it was a messaging problem for sure. it was also a matter of -- i was out on the trail for several weeks. people were not feeling the effects. you can show them a chart all they want but it's if they're not feeling it in their pocketbook they're going to want change. and it kind of like is if they are not expressing the -- the democrats weren't getting across what they wanted to do in congress. they were going to vote them out. >> austin, i keep going back to

this 2/3 of exit poll respondents say they believe the economy is getting worse. that's factually not true. the economy is getting better. the wages may be stagnating. and people may not have confidence but factually, actually, the economy is getting better. do you think democrats have the wrong strategy for the 2014 mid-terms? >> look, i don't really think so. i think the only two periods in the last 25 years where the incumbents have given a full-throated defense of, yes, we think the economy is good, were in the late '90s in the midst of a bubble as well as a boom. and in the year 1984 when the gdp -- leader wants to get out and try to take full credit for what is positive. you will always be able to find a whole lot of people in

negative circumstances especially in an environment where the growth has been modest and there hasn't been a lot of wage growth. i don't think if democrats had gotten up and said everything is great. what you're feeling is not correct, factually you're better off i think they would have felt like george bush felt in 1992, george bush the father was trying to tell people that, yeah, george bush tells you the recession is over. factually he was right but it didn't matter. >> i'm still pushing for mugs with that chart. i can't get enough of it. >> i want to get some of those mugs. >> austin, great to see you, thank you for your time. >> josh barrow and kate nocera thank you for your time. >> the affordable care act is getting examined once again. the supreme court agreed to hear a new challenge to the law. more on that coming up next. man: i know the name of eight princesses.

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the affordable care act is heading to the supreme court again. supreme court justices agreed to hear another challenge to the aca concerning the issue of tax subsidies. in king versus burwell the challengers argue that the government cannot issue subsidies in states that have not set up their own marketplaces or exchanges for insurance coverage. as it is written the law states that the subsidies must be limited to an exchange established by the state. but the irs allows one for federal or state. le contingency, yes, but also potentially disastrous for the law. if the challenge succeeds the affordable care act itself could fall apart. 87% of people enrolled in the

affordable care act are receiving subsidies and this could affect more than 7 million americans receiving the assistance they need. the white house said we are confident the financial help afforded to millions of americanwise the intent of the law and is working as the president designed. nancy sploesy reacted to the court's decision to take up the case today. >> why they're taking up, i don't know. the intense of congress was clear. the cbo reporting on the cost of what it -- were always part of how we went forward with the legislation. so it's troubling they would even consider this. >> as with the last challenge to the aca the law will rest on the shoulder of john roberts. coming up, is the clinton machine grinding into gear? we will look at the indications

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news that president obama sent a secret letter to iran's supreme leader last month is not sitting well with republicans. the "wall street journal" revealed the existence of the letter. it was president obama's fourth written letter to the ayatollah, part of a pattern that included a historic phone call with hassan rouhani. >> listen, i don't trust the iranians. i don't think that we need to bring them into this.

and i would hope that the negotiations that are underway are serious negotiation. but i have my doubts. >> it's immoral and shameful and somehow we are playing footsy with the iranians in hope they will somehow have an effect on isis. this is not a strategy. this is sort of an ad hoc reactionary failure. >> susan rice pushed back on the reports. >> we are in no way engaged in any cooperation, military cooperation, with iran on countering isil. there is no linkage between our efforts to resolve the nuclear issue through the negotiations and our counter-isil campaign. we have never made that linkage. >> we are awaiting a press briefing at the pentagon on the decision to send up to 1500 more

non-combat troops to iraq to combat isis. joining me is brian katoulis. before we get to the news that the president wants to send more troops to iraq let's talk about this letter that -- a secret letter whose existence we know of because why? one would expect there are back channel communications between the one government and another. why allow this -- why leak it at this point? it is not strategically that sound. >> is it not clear how the "wall street journal" the reporters who broke that story got that letter. i don't know it was leaked from the white house. and to me this is the fourth communication from the white house to the iranian leader. i'm all for engagement and it's good to sit down with iran to talk about their nuclear program and i hope we get a peaceful

settlement there. the question is the tactic of sending a letter like this to a man, the grand ayatollah who especially has anti-american views. i'm not sure he would open the letter and say we should settle a deal there. >> this is what i've been waiting for. >> i've been waiting for president obama to write me a letter. and the other problem is it lets the republican opposition here -- the way the letter is resonating in this coalition that we are building, this does not build confidence because it was a secret letter. clearly the israelies don't have their problems with this white house and this is not going to help -- >> the saudis. >> i just came back from that part of the world. there is a lot of distrust towards iran and conspiracy theories about what the u.s. is going to do with iran or not.

and that feeds into the conspiracy and a lack of confidence within that coalition we're trying to build to defeat isis. >> we're going to have to dip into the pentagon press conference. john kirby is speaking on the president's announcement today for 1500 more soldiers heading to iraq. >> first the department of defense issued today -- issued supplemental care guidance to employees deployed in ebola area. those who become ill, contract diseases or are injured are authorized to receive care at no cost to the civil employee. those treated in theater will be eligible for care in a military treatment facility upon their return at no cost to the employee. as directed by secretary hagen for the implementation of a

21-day controlled monitoring period. this was the implementation guidance he asked the chiefs to come back and put into place while we continue to assess the efficacy of this controlled monitoring. this policy applies to all military services that are contributing personnel to the fight against ebola at its source. in addition to providing guidance on the monitoring the policy states which have been approved as sites. they are fort bliss, joint base langley hue city, fort hood, fort bragg, joint base lewis mcchord. and the u.s. army garrison in germany and in italy. the election criteria included proximity to medical facilities capable of treating ebola and

the ability to conduct temperature checks, medical screenings and control access. and the commander of u.s. northern command has requested 30 additional personnel be identified and trained to provide backup capability to our existing 30-person ebola team. this request is being sourced and we expect they will come from each of the services. this is not being driven by an anticipation of a an additional need and not a second team but an additional cadre of personnel to given the same training as the first group we trained last month, training that focuses on helping them train civilians on the use of personal protective equipment and assisting with patient care. this group will begin their training in san antonio around november 17th. with that we'll take questions. >> thanks.

for the purpose of television it would be helpful if you had a brief statement on what you announced today in your paper statement and what the pentagon has decided to do with regard to these troops and why. >> sure. commander-in-chief has authorized chuck hagel to deploy to iraq up to 15 additional u.s. personnel over the coming months in a non-combat role to expand our assist mission and initiate a training effort for iraqi forces. secretary hagel made this recommendation bazed on a request from the government of iraq the assessment of iraqi units, the progress the security forces have made in the field and in concert with a coalition campaign plan to go on the offensive against isil. u.s. central command will open two assist centers in locations out of baghdad and erbil.

u.s. central command will establish several sites across iraq. these sites will be in northern, western, and southern iraq. coalition partners will join u.s. personnel to help build iraqi capacity and capability. the training will be funded through a request in an equip fund. over the coming weeks the united states will work with coalition members to determine how many u.s. and coalition personnel will be required at each location for the training effort. ultimately these iraqi forces will enable iraq to defend its citizens, borders and interests against the threat of isil and keeping in the mission that we have been assigned there.

to assist the forces as they improve their capability against isil. >> thank you for doing that. >> lastly. >> it is helpful. >> last week, general dempsey said he -- he hitted at this need and he said the precondition for this is that the government of iraq is willing to arm the tribes in anbar. do you have any assurances that the government of iraq is going to work closely with thesunni tribes and arm them. are you going to contribute to the awakening. >> through the fund the department has requested funding to provide training to tribes. ultimately we expect we will be able to conduct some of that training at the same locations at the same places we will train

the peshmerga brigades. and prime minister abadi will continue training with the tribes. he encouraged the iraqi security force leadership to continue that outreach. while i can't put a fine point on exactly what all that cooperation will look like we -- as i said, expect there will be a role for sunni tribes in this effort. >> admiral, can you tell us when the iraqi government made this request for this additional deployment of troops? >> i don't have an exact time and date on that. >> that was rear admiral john kirby speak about the authorization to deploy up to 1500 more noncombat troops to iraq. brian, this request comes with some stipulations about iraq and what they are doing in terms of combatting isis. we were talking about the saudis

being a huge part of actually routing isis in a sort of definitive way. the saudis are actually getting closer to being okay with the united states coordinating with iran on the sumgt of isil do. you think that is accurate reporting? >> i think it is hard to cast judgment in that way. the middle east is opaque especially the saudis. it's hard to get a read on where they are standing on things like iran. but the saudi foreign minister was criticizing iran. so there is a lot of rancor. and i heard this in abu dhabi last month on full display. i hope fareed is right. they need to get along with one another. but we're talking about long-standing rivalries here that i don't think will come to an end easily. >> what do you think this

request for 1500 noncombat troops reflects in terms of the broader war and the american military involvement on the broader war on isis? >> it reflects the weakness of the iraqi security forces we saw this summer. in mosul they essentially took off their uniforms and handed over their weapons. these were forces that we trained. we spent years there. we spent 20 billion u.s. taxpayer dollar in iraq. if you add these troops they are proposing it will bring us up to, i don't know, a few percent. we had ten times as many troops in iraq and we trained far more than i think we're proposing to train now. the question isn't capacity, it is will the iraqis have the will and allegiance to fight for something there. that's the trickier thing. we can train people to shoot a weapon and give them weapons but it's whether they believe in the government they are fighting

for. >> one more question the authorization for the use of military force. john boehner says he welcomes the aumf if the president does the heavy lifting do. you think we will have a passage of a new aumf? >> it's hard to tell but i hope so. but we've got men and women who are in danger. we can use these labels combat or noncombat. the reality is, iraq is a dangerous place. when we send troops there they are in danger of being shot at or shot from the air. and also the reality is we have a congress that actually has not wanted to have a vote on this. i hope they do. i think most americans, we don't want to be in a war. that's what we're in. no matter how we are dressing it up, we are dropping bombs and sending our troops into harm's way. i think it is just awful that

our congress didn't want to vote on this. i hope the white house and congress now can find a way to put a seal of approval on this. >> the congress has abdicated one of its primary responsibilities indeed. brian, thanks for your time. >> thank you. >> coming up, democrats are ready for hillary. but is hillary ready to run? let's take a look at stocks, how they stand going into the weekend. the dow closing higher. up about 19 points. the s&p up almost a full point and the nasdaq closing lower by almost 6 points. that's it from cnbc, first in business worldwide. in the country. that's right america. with xlte in over 400 markets. two: and here's something for families to get excited about. our best pricing ever! get 2 lines with an incredible 10gb of data to share for the low price of $110! or just $140 for a family of 4! and three: get $150 credit for every line you switch.

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on tuesday night's drubbing. but already a certain someone is looking to 2016. as the "new york times" reports, hillary clinton is accelerating her schedule. in the coming weeks, clinton

will stop delivering paid speeches and embark on a listening tour. the plan echos a similar plan hatched by clinton 15 years ago. in 1999 clinton began a listening tour through new york state. the jaunt would be credited with helping to secure her successful senate bid. but clinton is not the only one launching a campaign centered around hillary clinton as if a photo album was not enough, kentucky junior senator rand paul continued his one-man broadside against the potential nominee. >> they wanted to be associated as clinton democrats and were all soundly rejected. there is a message here about hillary clinton as much as about the president. the 19 it 0s was a long time ago. i don't think there is a clinton cachet as there once was. >> joining me is ed rendell.

and from washington, former governor of vermont, howard dean. governor rendell let me start with you, generally speaking in terms of the wake of tuesday and the drubbing or whatever you want to call it, do you think in the long term, a g.o.p.-controlled congress helps hillary clinton in a bid for 2016? >> it depends what they do. if they screw around and don't pass anything significant, send president obama whacky pieces of legislation he is pound to veto and show they are incapable of governing it increases the chances of people saying enough, we need not only hillary clinton but we need to get more responsible people back in office. >> governor dean, there's been a lot of analysis on what kind of candidate hillary would be. and molly ball in "the atlantic" writes of her previous campaign,

everywhere that hillary clinton goes a thousand cameras follow and then she opens her mouth and nothing happens. there is a desire for her to be an aggressive candidate to put forth specific measures. do you think that is fair? >> first of all it is silly. hillary clinton is the front runner and the press knocks the front runner around as much as possible. i can tell you from experience. when i was the underdog they loved me and when i was the front runner i was clobbered. you will see a lot of cat reporting and whiney people complaining about this, that and the other thing. people who talk like rand paul don't get their own nomination. he better worry about his own nomination. he has to have something to say and so far he hasn't. hillary is the most qualified person in the united states to

be the president of the united states who hasn't already served in the office. this is hers to lose. could she lose it? she could. but she is going to run the campaign the way she thinks she should run the campaign. i don't think that molly ball is going to run a campaign. >> governor rendell there is a question of her coalition. and in another analysis in "the atlantic" young people don't have the passion for hillary as they had for obama. if she is going to rouse them to the polls she's going to have to take the risk of saying something which is similar to the criticism of molly ball but it calls into the question whether she can inherit the obama coalition and assemble one as broad as the one he created. >> i just want to say i spent seven solid weeks before the pennsylvania primary campaigning with hillary clinton and she

said a great deal of things, including coming out for the individual mandate and senator obama was against it ironically. she was specific and gave a message that spired populous feelings in pennsylvania. as far as african-americans, i have been with bill clinton campaigning in black churches in the last year or two and when he mentions hillary's name the place goes wild. so that's all just a bunch of hogwash and howard is right, it is journalistic nitpicking. what was the question about the coalition? >> i think you answered it. governor dean. when we talk about the landscape for 2016, the conventional wisdom is it is a much better map for democrats. but in terms of getting another democrat into the white house, things are not as cut and dried. to succeed a two-term president from your own party is a

difficult thing. it was difficult in 2008. it was difficult in 2000. it was difficult in 1988. it was difficult although george w. bush won against mike dukakis, not the strongest candidate in the world. do you think that 2016 could be more of an uphill climb? >> i think it is going to be an uphill climb. the republicans clobbered us in an election. we clobbered ourselves everyone thought it would be a good message to rubble without a message other than i don't like president obama either. kay hagan ran a great campaign and deserved to win. it is a more conservative state and a low turnout. but you have to take this seriously. hillary clinton won't have a problem getting the nomination but this is going to be a tough election in 2016 for president and nobody should think that anybody is going to walk into the white house. we have to see who they nominate.

they have the wing nut wing of their party if they nominate one of them, hillary is steady and a known quantity. they nominate a sent resist person we have a race on our hands. but i do disagree with peter who is like molly, a very good reporter but i think he is wrong about excitement among young people, young women are incredibly excited about the possibility of hillary clinton being president. so i actually think she can put together something like the coalition that elected president obama. >> one of the most disturbing about about the drubbing on tuesday is at the governor level. the fact -- not only the fact that the republicans control so many state legislature but they were rout it in maine and

massachusetts. how did you read that? >> it was a wave election. no ifs, ands, and buts about it. people say it is terrible because we won't have control of the governor seats. president obama carried michigan, ohio, all states with strong republican governors. i don't think it has much of an effect on 201. as far as 2016 goes, i'm for ted cruz. >> that has to be something we put on the internet. >> governor dean what do you think? >> i feel worse for the people of maine than for the democratic party. it doesn't do us any damage in maryland. obviously i would prefer a democrat to win. but in maryland and massachusetts those are heavily democratic states. i don't think those republican governors are going to do a lot of damage. in maine, governor la page has

stopped mainers from getting health insurance by putting the chi bosh on medicaid. i feel badly for the americans who voted for republican governors who are going to hurt their fellow citizens not getting adequate health care like in south carolina and texas and places like that. but that is more damage to the citizens of those states than to the democratic party. >> the million-plus people in florida who won't have access to medicaid thanks to rick scott. governors it is always good to see you guys. thanks for sitting down with me. that is all for "now." i'll see you back here on monday at 4:00 p.m. eastern. "the ed show" is coming up next. good evening, americans

welcome to "the ed show" live from new york. i'm mike eric dyson. j.p. morgan chase has done anything in their power to keep their criminal activity hidden from the american public. but on "the ed show" that is change. a bombshell article is shedding light on the large-scale criminal activity on wall street that led to the 2008 financial collapse. it stems from a whistle blower who was a former transaction manager for j.p. morgan chase. she is here on set and will join us in a moment. she saw first hand the criminal activity j.p. morgan chase was taking part in. as tie casinoey pointed out, her main job was to make sure that the bank didn't buy spoiled merchandise before it was tossed into the meet grinder and sold out the other end. she told her mer