>> thank you. no doubt about it. >> if it's way too early. >> it's "morning joe." but stick around, it is time for peter alexander. he's got "daily rundown." we'll see you tomorrow. thanks for watching, guys. president obama kicking off a week-long trip to asia and australia. he's tried to pivot to asia before with little luck. this time, some good news right at the start with north korea releasing two american prisoners after a visit from the nation's top spy. also happening right now, the first big snow of the season starting to blast millions of americans across the plains and the midwest. the latest on what is expected to be significant travel delays. and bush 43 talking about his book on bush 41. kicking the door even wider to the idea of a bush 45. assessing what the country thinks about another bush versus clinton fight for the white house.

good morning to you from washington. this is "the daily rundown." we begin with some breaking news. a horrific story we're learning more about from nigeria. according to the associated press, police say a suicide bomber reportedly dressed as a student there detonated explosives inside a school. that happened this morning, killing, as we understand it, at least 47 students. the blast occurred as children gathered for an assembly. it was at their school in the northeastern city of potiskum. according to one witness, the explosives were hidden in a school backpack. according to officials, all of the victims appear to be between 11 and 20 years of age. while no group is taking responsibilitily say they suspect boko haram is to blame.

the radical islamist group has attacked schools before, going after schools teaching what it regards as western curriculum. we have reporters in africa trying to gather more information. as they do, as it develops, we will bring all of that to you. we turn to china where the president, president obama, is putting nearly 7,000 miles between himself and washington. after that tough midterm election. he's kicking off a week-long trip to asia, taking him to china, myanmar and australia for three diplomatic summits. the first stop, a three-day visit to china. obama, his first meeting with president obama xi jinping on chinese soil. announcing a new visa agreement with china and a renewed push for an 11-nation trade pack. a lot of democrats propose but the president called the model for trade in the 21st century. he also unveiled a lecture to

china. >> promoting policies and practices that keep the internet open and accessible. sustainable growth requires a planet where citizens can bring clean air and drink clean water and eat safe food. >> the president carefully navigated a question on democracy. protests in nearby hong kong. >> we don't expect china to follow an american model in every instance. but we're going to continue to have concerns about human rights. i think our primary message has been to make sure that violence is avoided as the people of hong kong try to sort through what this next phase of their relationship is to the mainland. >> critics say foreign policy crises from isis to ebola have crowded out the planned american

pivot to asia. this morning, president obama was challenged to explain why doubling the u.s. troop level in iraq is not inching the u.s. closer to combat there. >> the income phanext phase is train and assist iraqi security forces so they can begin to build up and go on offense. that is the reason why i authorized this additional number of u.s. troops. what hasn't changed is it's not our folks who are going to be doing the fighting. >> president obama did get some good news. starting this trip. he landed in asia just a day after two american prisoners, kenneth bae and matthew todd mill, returned to u.s. soil from north korea where this release was secured by america's top spy, james clapper, the director of national intelligence who carried a personal letter from president obama to north korean leaders. >> it's been an amazing two years. i learned a lot.

i grew a lot. lost a lot of weight. good weight. but i'm standing strong because of you, and thank you for being there, such time as this. >> this morning, the president spoke about why he decided to send clapper to negotiate the prisoner's release. >> we had an indication there was the possibility of the release of these two hostages, prisoners. and we pursued it. i'm incredibly thankful to jim clapper for the efforts that he made and i couldn't be happier for the families as we enter into the holidays to know their loved ones are back. it's a good news story. we continue to have a broader fundamental conflict with the north koreans. >> did you get any better indication about kim jong-un and

his strategy for dealing with the u.s. for these negotiations? >> no. >> nbc's kristen welker is live for us in beijing. and you'll indulge us, a little delay in the satellite so we can reach here there. the pivot to asia has been overshadowed by these other crises, largely in the middle east and elsewhere. is there anything you've learned in this trip that suggest that really could change? >> well that is what the white house says the president is working towards. one thing that's interest peter, they is there set up a number of meetings between president obama and president xi designed to give them a chance to speak on a more personal level. they joined in a dinner tonight with a number of leaders. by the way, that was set against an incredibly ornate backdrop. tomorrow, they will have a garden walk, a tea and then a private dinner between the two

of them. aimed at trying to foster that stronger relationship. as you point out, president obama has to walk a very fine line. on the one hand, he needs china for a number of things like fighting ebola, fighting isis, trying to get iran to give up its nuclear program. white house officials say he needs to be firm with china's leader, xi jinping on issues like human rights abuses here, the democracy protests. it's a tricky dance obama has to pull off. against that backdrop you talked about, peter. the fact that president obama has made this pivot to asia a key priority. a lot of people think he has taken his eye off the ball. one of the things aimed at making the point is that agreement that you talked about, to expand visas between the u.s. and china. which would essentially make it easier for people to travel between the two countries. it would also, according to the white house, generate about 440,000 new jobs. one other point i will make,

peter, president obama vladimir putin of russia is also here. of course, relations quite tense between united states and russia right now. no plans for a formal meeting. one white house official tells me he is not ruling out the possibility that president obama and president putin could have an impromptu conversation during the course of this meeting. president obama is here for three days, and then he heads to myanmar and rounds out the trip at the g-20 summit in brisbane, australia. by the way, president putin will be there as well. >> no love lost between the leaders of china and japan. for more, we want to bring in "the new york times" chief washington correspondent david sanger. nice to see you in person. >> good to be with you. >> first on the release of these american prisoners from north korea, if we can very quickly, you sort of noted the difference in approach the president's taking, writing a long letter to the ayatollah al khomeini.

just last week we learned about that. now he sent james clapper. he's not sending a diplomat to north korea. >> he sure wasn't. since the alternative might have been dennis rodman. >> rodman's claiming some credit here, right? >> of course, of course. look, james clapper, who's the director of national intelligence, did a great tactical move here. he went in. he presented this letter. apparently there was no quid pro quo. he emerged with these two americans. and they're back home. and as the president said, that's a good news story. but strategically, there was nothing in this to show any kind of opening to north korea. and it's interesting that kim jong- jong-un, the north korean leader, unpredictable, missing for the past few months, has taken a number of steps lately that show he certainly is concerned about trying to get some kind of relationship. >> that's what i want to ask about. it appears if the president is not showing any willingness to negotiate in any formal way,

going forward, believe, as you note earlier today, that you can more specifically, what's the word i'm looking for, you can just contain, excuse me, north korea. when it comes to the north korean s, they appear to be showing a little bit of of a different approach to the u.s. now. >> they're showing a desperation to have more communications. the difficulty is every time the north koreans go through this same place, send off a missile test, grab some americans. it's usually in return for getting an opening and then promising to do something that five or ten years ago they promised to do presley. bob gates, the former defense secretary, once famously said, don't want to buy that horse a second time. i think that's really been the guiding strategy of the obama administration in these past six years. the good news is they haven't bought another horse. the bad news is, they haven't made any progress. >> what are realistic goals we can anticipate coming out of this asia trip for the president? >> there are a few things. the most important thing on the

president's agenda and one you pointed out as unpopular with his own party is this transpacific partnership. this very big trade deal with asia sitting out there. neither one has come to closure. the president was looking for a big foreign policy win. that would be it. getting gxi jinping to continue is high up on the president's list. getting him to rein in the cyberattacks is another. you may remember in june, three members of the unit 61398, the people's cyber army, indicted. they wanted to force them into a dialogue with this. so far, it's frozen. >> david sanger, thank you very much. when we come back, remember the fall days? if you're living anywhere from the midwest to the mountains, get ready for some intense cold.

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there may be some who feel they have to vote no simply because it's a nominee by president obama. but the vast majority of republicans and democrats will vote for her. >> as the current u.s. attorney general for the eastern district of new york, lynch has managed to stay under the radar. she's been confirmed by the senate twice before. fresh off midterm victories, saying lynch's confirmation should wait until a new year and a new congress. >> we will give the president's nominee every consideration but would like to do that, consider that next year, when the new congress is seated. >> think it would be a mistake to push her through in this session? >> i do. i think if we're going to have an era of good faith here, we need to begin with the confirmation process for one of the most important jobs in the country and that's the attorney

general. >> senator capito there from west virginia. some republicans want to turn lynch's nomination into a proxy fight over the president's plan to pursue immigration reform through executive action. on saturday, republican senators ted cruz and mike lee released this statement, saying in part, loretta lynch deserves the opportunity to demonstrate her commitment to the law, beginning with the statement on whether or not she believes the president's executive amnesty plans are constitutional and legal. joining us now, our power team. nbc news senior white house correspondent chris jansing and nbc justice correspondent pete williams. chris, we'll start with you if we can. the likely new senate majority leader mitch mcconnell put it bluntly. he said her nomination should be considered in the new congress. so will the white house try to push this thing through in the lame duck session, can they? >> well, peter, yes, they could. they've certainly given no indication they intend to. pat leahy hasn't given any indication this is his priority.

he said an nsa bill on surveillance is his priority in the lame duck session. i'll state the obvious, this is a white house that is politically damaged from the last election. they also think she's going to be confirmed. in spite of the one thing you raised, which is about this proxy fight for immigration. it's not just the two senators you name. there are at least three others who have suggested along the way sort of a litmus test for them would be whether -- would be what the attorney general nominee has to say about executive orders. but loretta lynch is somebody who is probably the least controversial of those who are on the short list. she is somebody who has a lot of experience in areas, including terrorism, as the chief cop in brooklyn. and she's somebody who, as you said, not only has gone through two previous confirmation hearings, but was -- went through with acclamation. now, it has become almost five

years, as has been pointed out. they want to question her again. the white house feels confident it is delayed, she will still be confirmed. >> lynch has been somewhat under the radar. we're trying to get a better understanding. what more do we know about how she might run the justice department and whether really it would be a break from eric holder? >> i suppose she's under the radar as much as any u.s. attorney is. i doubt many people in the country can name more than one, which is the one perhaps where they live. so under the radar in the sense that all u.s. attorneys are. >> naturally. >> yeah. but i think she'll certainly follow eric holder's -- every indication she'll follow the broad outlines of holder's agenda. which has been try to reinvigorate the civil rights division. especially after gutting the section clearance requirement. now trying to keep the rest of the act alive in court.

sort of breathe new life into parts of it. they're continuing fights over accession to the ballot box. voter i.d. redistricting. all those fights are coming. and there may be more districting fights in the supreme court. and then of course the huge defense of the president's health care law, which will fall on her shoulders when the supreme court takes up that case next year. every indication i've gotten from administration people is they don't expect this confirmation to be in this old congress. it will be the new congress. they're confident she'll be confirmed. every reason to think she'll follow holder's broad outlines. and then of course the number one job, as she said it, her comments in the white house over the weekend, which is the anti-terrorism fight. >> we appreciate both of you being here. thank you. not a week after the midterm election and the jockeying for 2016 already off and running.

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>> yes, i do. >> do you think he can get through the republican primary? >> absolutely. i think if he runs, people will say, wow this guy could be a great president. this man has got a vision and can articulate it. he's good. really good. he also can give a speech, complete speech, in spanish, that, you know, my vocabulary is about 50 words. he's not afraid of the competition should he decide to run. >> can you imagine a general election between a bush and a clinton? >> i know, yeah. bill clinton and i do haveneven together. said what about another bush/clinton race. my first quip was, the first one didn't turn out too well. >> wisconsin governor scott walker also weighed in on 2016 on "meet the press." >> you made a pledge in october you were going to serve all four years. does that pledge still hold? >> i said my plan was for four years. i've got a plan to keep going for the next four years. but, you know, certainly i care deeply about not only my state

but my country and we'll see what the country holds. >> do you defer to paul ryan? >> i love paul ryan. i've said times before i'd be the president of the paul ryan fan club. i think if we're going to beat hillary clinton in this next election, we've got to have a message that says hillary clinton is all about washington. any of us have the executive experience from outside of washington to provide a much better alternative. overall, i believe governors make much better presidents than members of congress. >> walker has a piece in politico today telling the new republican majority in congress, quote, your election is a message from the american people that they want change, so go big and bold, he writes. kentucky senator rand paul's advisers tell politico they expect his campaign will be a go by mid-april with an a nouncement as quickly after that as his staff can put together. a fly-around to the early states. republican strategist john weaver, he's the one who managed john mccain's 2000 presidential campaign. has some blunt advice for the

new jersey governor chris christie after his put up or shut up episode. tells "the washington post," i'm not sure you can have 75 town hall meetings in new hampshire and yell at people every day. with democrats still-li licking their wounds after the 2013 sha shellacking, could her dominance also be a trap? joining me today, "usa today's" washington bureau chief susan page and msnbc political correspondent kacie hunt. susan, you spoke to bush 43 as well very recently about this new book. give us a better understanding right now. the relationship between bushes and the clintons is so unique. because bush 41 is almost a father figure now. how does that play into the decision making process? these two families could go at it one more time. >> one of the things president

bush 41 told me in an interview friday in dallas was that -- amazing relationship has developed between his father and bill clinton who faced off against one another in 1992. he believes bill clinton -- who never knew his own father -- has come to see bush 41 as a kind of father figure. but he said there would be no problem in getting out and campaigning against hillary clinton -- >> they're all professionals, he says. >> i think there is a campaign under way by the bush family, by both presidents bush, to encourage jeb bush to win so we might well see that very same family. >> what do you think that decision will be made? >> george w. bush said he thinks it will be pretty soon. it's hard for me to imagine the father and the brother getting out there this far unless they believe jeb bush is going to run. >> scott walker, also a name we're talking about. another people thought if he got

knocked off by mary burke it was done. he's now won three times in three years. he's not coy about his 2016 aspirations. what does it look like? >> for walker democrats, he was the guy to beat for democrats, right? they really wanted to take him down and they couldn't. the message that republicans i talk to like walker say the message they take away from that is walker governed as an conservative. >> go big and bold. >> exactly. there's always this argument from the base we need to take a step forward. they could do that potentially with walker without some of the kinds of baggage that might come from a ted cruz or a candidate that's drilling more to the right on the base. i think as far as who might be his most intense competition, you saw him mention to chuck other governors. you know, he thinks that somebody should come outside washington. i think you'll start to see some friction between chris christie

and scott walker. he said, hey, guys, why aren't you sending me more money. so i think look out for more of that. >> also what dan balls for "the washington post" wrote this weekend. he wrote, the two midterm elections ha s havs have hollow democratic party. the average age is 49.8. they're under 50 years old. that counts as young these days. but just a few years ago, obama was going to spawn this new generation of democrats. all of a sudden, there is a vacuum for new democrats. if hillary clinton wins and does an eight-term -- two terms, you're not going to have a competitive race for democrats until 2024. >> this is an issue for democrats. as they look at the face of their party. look at the leadership in their congress. they've got harry reid, nancy pelosi, steny hoyer. these are all figures towards the end of their political careers. well up in age. you have not just a couple

younger republicans, republicans in their 40s and 50s, you've got a dozen republicans who are trying to run for president in the senate and in governorships. that gives a kind of energy to party. it also tends to generate the kind of new ideas that i think voters would really like to hear after four years now of gridlock and stalemate. i think that's a strength for the republican party moving forward. >> there's also a list of potential democrats that could still add their names to this chorus right now. martin o'malley seems a lot less likely after his -- well, basically his deputy lost, right, the loss for brown in maryland right now. among the other names we talk about, jim webb. he's a person who could really sort of get into that income inequality message in ways that could drive home -- i guess the potential for a little bit of a debate within the democratic party, intraparty. >> potentially, sure. i think any debate between webb and clinton would be interesting from a foreign policy perspective. you have somebody who is very

tied in with the military. hillary clinton viewed by the base as someone who's hawkish. so i think that might be the question. i think he's been spending a lot of time and effort sort of talking to his inner circle, getting them back together. you know, one of -- there are some operatives in iowa who have longtime ties to jim webb. i think, you know, at this point he's making it clear he wants to be a player. >> what's the big problem now, someone on the left of clinton or someone on the right? >> hillary clinton i think is well served if she's got challengers who are not really too serious in terms of winning the nomination on both sides. if she's got bernie sanders on her left. and jim webb to her right. she's going to be challenged by somebody in the race to the nam nation. it's not going to be a total gimme. it helps her if she's in the sensible center. >> does she disappear for a little bit or when do we see her again? >> i don't think it's possible for hillary clinton to

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according to hickic's boyfriend, they plan to leave the state of paying, say, quote, we're going to try to get our lives back on track. in texas over the weekend, ebola survivor nina pham returned to her alma mater texas christian university to cheer on the school's football team. she's a sweetheart. we had a chance to meet her recently at nih. she spoke exclusively to our nbc affiliate there. >> it's such a blessing and an honor to be here. i'm just overwhelmed by the outpouring and love and i just love my horned frog family so much. >> how have you adjusted being back in a normal routine? >> it's, you know, an everyday process. but i have everyone's support. that just means the world to me. >> nice to see her celebrated. pham's appearance came just one day after officials in dallas declared the city ebola free. as the monitoring period finished for everyone in the city who may have come in contact with the virus. >> here's another headline.

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