remains entirely committed when it comes to asia. >> escaping from the midterm gut check today, president obama is in asia. good afternoon. i'm toure. this trip has been planned for a year but it couldn't come at a better time for the president who might feel more comfortable than frosty d.c. as we come on the air, it's 4 a.m. in beijing. and in just three hours, apec leaders return for day two of the big summit. their nations encompass 40% of the world's population and more than half of the world's economic output. kristin welker is in beijing. >> reporter: this is president obama's sixth trip to asia, his second this year alone. one of his key foreign policy goals has been strengthening ties with the region, but many here feel asia has become an afterthought with president more focused on isis and ebola. this week will be a key test of his foreign policy. >> day one was about the president touting america's

economic recovery and why china's economic strength is good for us. >> we started creating jobs again. the u.s. is putting more people back to work than europe, japan and every other advanced economy combined. what you get is an american economy that is prime for steadier, more sustained growth and better poise to lead and succeed in the 21st century than just about any other nation on earth. one country's prosperity doesn't have to come at the expense of another the united states welcomes the rise of a prosperous, peaceful and stable china. i want to repeat that. i want to repeat that. we welcome the rise of a prosperous, peaceful and stable china. >> president obama and xi meet tomorrow, their fourth meeting, despite growing friction over trade, china attacking our

computers and human rights abuses. president obama's other -- transpacific partnership and is key to president's pivot to asia. >> we're going to keep on working to get it done. we believe this is model for trade in the 21st century. obviously, ensuring the continuing growth and stability the asia-pacific requires more than a focus on growth and trade in investment. >> another big player in this trip is russia's vladimir putin. president obama and putin met briefly today on the apec sidelines and they could cross paths again at the g-20 meeting on saturday. putin is trying to further diminish washington's role in the region. russia and china expanded $400 billion gas bill. chris jansing is back at the white house. a lot of headlines out of beijing. what stands out as the biggest one in your mind? >> reporter: all of them are about trade and the economy. there was an announcement this

morning about visas. that's important. these were one-year visas for chinese nationals who are coming into the united states, now for students, it will go to five years, ten years on some of the business and tourism visas. very important, the president said, will create billions of dollars in business for the united states. it's going to work the other way for americans going there. but i think you're right about the big meeting that's coming up. the bilat between the president and president xi. and there's a lot of focus on climate change, but also on can they come to some agreements that will open up closed parts of the chinese markets for the united states or ones that require chinese partnerships, that will be huge. the trade agreement, you talked about 11 countries. the white house has been sort of trying to tamp down expectations for a big trade agreement but there have been some signals from japan which would be a key component of this. by the way, this trade agreement does not include china. some signals from japan that maybe something is in the works,

leading to speculation there could bl an announcement before the end of this three-day trip for the president. but the bottom line is creating jobs, creating business here in the united states. >> chris jansing at the white house, thank you for that. military relations is a key pillar to president obama's asia pivot. defense one has a new debate series on china focused on exactly this. their executive editor kevin baron joins us. he spent years covering improving military ties with china. does china want a strong military presence in the south pacific? >> i think it's safe to say they would rather not, but more importantly, is that the united states just wanted to know a lot more of china's intentions of their own military buildup. not just for what they're doing in the south pacific but around the world as they become more of a global power and start to send ships, you know, one or two at a time here, there, beyond their own region. >> talk to us about how this pivot to asia is going.

watching from afar, it seems like that relationship has taken a backseat and then putin and chinese leaders have never been clos closer. what does that mean? and can a relationship between china and russia last very long when you think about the history of these two countries, the early 1960s, when they had an all-out nuclear war. >> this is a point where we have two different scenarios both a little overhyped. one is the pivot really forgotten about? i think the answer is not really. is putin somehow coming in to stake a claim that america doesn't have? i think that's also not exactly, you know -- that's not exactly true. the u.s. has been doing plenty of work in asia behind the scenes. the difference is just that this is not what we're talking about now. we have an extraordinary year with russian in ukraine, ebola, and isis crisis. so, just -- it just becomes, you know, the slow news victim until

the president gets out to beijing. the reality is there's been a lot of work done, essentially on the pentagon shied, military-to-military relationship. your intro for this segment has been about the economics and trade. but it's been the military part that's harder to crack. they know in the past any time there was a bump in the road between americans and chinese, the chinese answer has been to shut down communication with americans. this administration has worked very hard, you know, two secretaries of defense to secretary gates to break through that. so far seems to be kind of working. military commanders believe little by little through some naval exercises and other interactions that just don't make front page headlines, the united states military and the chinese militaries have reached kind of a beginning of a new era that may seem to tamp things down. at the same time, it is happening when china is now focusing on their territorial disputes with japan and other nations in the south china sea. the criticisms of the administration is that while we've allowed china and the

other countries to play that out on their own without america getting too involved, we'll let china continue down that road. >> looking bigger picture here, this will be the president's longest foreign trip, meeting with 50 plus world leaders just this week, how are world leaders viewing this president at this point? do they see him as lame duck particularly after the midterm losses? >> that seems to be the perception of some journalists around the world and the experts here in washington that, you know, the world saw the president's party, the democrats, lose a major election. he's lost control of congress. here we are, last two years to go of any president. we talk about this with any presidency. this is still the united states of america and this is still the american president who goes overseas and still gives key note address at every conference he goes to. he's the big dog in every conference we go to. and all eyes look to america to see what's going to happen next.

whether we're talking about the military relations we were just discussing or these economic deals to come. i think especially in asia. the narrative going back and forth is, you know, is america going to let china tip the balance of power and become a regional player or is america going to fill that role? i think even that is a false choice. china is culturally and regionally and every other way linked to their neighbors in a way america will never be. when it comes to security, little by little, all of china's neighbors are turning to america and allowing the united states military to get little tiny foot holds here and there for different reasons. one is to create a kind of betterse regional security. another one from especially southeast asia is a sense that they don't want southeast asia to become the next middle east, the next place if societies collapse, if governments collapse, terrorism would work its way in america, united states military, has before us

to go into those countries and take care of those jobs. the exchange has been the united states is giving little by little access to air bases and ports in a way that is different than putting out full bases and surrounding china but allowing the united states to go to ch a china's back door without any problem. >> obviously, political squaubls will go forward in american history as far as the eye can see. arguably you can say a 39 will be judged in how they interpret the country. china will be our top competitor for years to come. i'm curious what you see as the best obama has done in the sense of when i speak to china experts here in washington, they say china fights its war with concrete. they go into impoverished communities in south africa, builds roads, ports, especially with financial interest in the years ahead.

the united states has been so preoccupied in the middle east we haven't done that to the degree china has done. what can obama do in china now or over the last two years of his presidency to slow that down or better position the u.s. or how are we positioned in that endeavor from where you stand? >> that's a great point. the united states has been very reluctant to use foreign aid in the way china has. especially across africa. hillary clinton when she was secretary of state had a quote, we're never going to build soccer stadiums to build curry. a lot of people why not? it's cheaper than just being in charge of military security and letting other nations, letting europe or china move in with the diplomatic side, with the aid that goes such a long way. i think it would require an enormous shift of u.s. budgets, whether it's away from the fence or just to add to the state department to that foreign affairs side of things. china is doing it because you have to remember, china does not

have an expeditionary military. they don't have the capability to send troops and to send ships beyond their shores. for any sustained or long-term efforts. they can't send thousands of troops into africa to help with the ebola crisis but they can send, as you said, contractors. they can send in economic developments. you know, i was in engoal angol we saw lots of chinese businessmen walking around but no americans. it requires a shift, not just from president obama, but from congress for massive increase. >> having an impact on the world not with guns but with money. up next, president obama says we've begun a new phase in the fight against isis but what does that mean for those additional american troops being deployed? there is breaking news on that front. plus, the polar express arrives a month and a half early. "the cycle" is rolling on.

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breaking news now. a follow-up on the story you saw break right here on "the cycle" friday. advanced troops are now arriving in iraq ahead of the additional 1500 u.s. troops that president obama wants congress to send in. when they are all fully in place, we'll have nearly double the force that was there before today. over the weekend the president tried to clarify his plan to war-weary americans.

>> we will provide them close air support once they're ready to go on the offense against isis, but what we will not be doing is having our troops do the fighting. >> should we expect more troops may be needed before this is over? >> you know, as commander in chief, i'm never going to say never, but what commanders who presented the plan to me say, we may actually see fewer troops over time because now we're seeing coalition members partner with us on the training and assist effort. >> we'll try to get even more clarity now from jim miklaszewski at the pentagon. first on the arrival of these troops. >> as far as we can tell, these are the first american military forces that have gone back into anbar, you know, the scene of the most serious deadly fighting in the iraq war and the u.s. military pulled out three years ago. this is not part of the 1500. these are 50 military advisers

who are going to look around and determine what exactly those advisers and trainers, when they eventually get into anbar, will need in terms of logistics, housing, the kind of equipment they'll need. so this advance force, when they figure that all out, is going to come back out. and those 1500 troops won't start flowing into iraq until congress, apparently, comes up with it is $5.6 billion that president obama has asked for. >> before we let you go, i want to hit on another story that's still breaking right now. reports that the leader of isis was actually hit by a u.s. air strike. over the weekend. what more can you tell us? >> this was a claim made by minister of interior there in baghdad. the iraqis. and so far the u.s. military and d.o.d. folks and intelligence officials are scratching their heads because the scenario doesn't fit what happened in the weekend when u.s. launched air

strikes at what they said was a ten-vehicle convoy near mosul. also a couple of targets at al qaim where iraqis claim they launched an air strike that hit al baghdadi. according to intel officials, there's no chatter among isis and other militant forces themselves which would be the best indication that such a thing happened. quite frankly, the people we're talking to in the pentagon here are highly skeptical of the claims made by the iraqi government officials. >> thanks so much, mick. appreciate it. keeping with isis but turning now to the syrian border town of kobani, we've been talking so much about, an influx of kurdish fightsers was allowed to cross over by way of turkey. they're having some real success in taking on the terrorists which raises an interesting question. if we continue with our strategy of no boots on the ground, could the kurds actually serve as our ground troops? let's ask steven mansfield who

has witnessed recent history of kurds and he chronicles all of that in his new book called "the miracle of the kurds". thanks for being with us. help us understand the special history the kurds have with america. >> the kurds are a nonera people. they are very strongly turned towards america. that's gotten them in trouble time and again when george w.h. bush said kurds need to arrive. the amazing thing is they suffered betrayals, they're still a people very much turned toward democracy, turned toward the u.s. and turned toward other partner in the middle east, that's israel. >> there's a huge desire for

kurdish independence. do you think we'll see kurdistan as its own nation? >> i think we will. that's not the pressing issue. it's isis and battle on the ground and whether the west will support the kurds. yes, i believe that will be good for the kurds. it will be good for the middle east and something the u.s. ought to support. >> folks i have spoken to in foreign policy community say the kurds are a wonderful ally of the united states. if we were to lend support to independent kurdistan it could complicate our relationships not only with turkey but also the current coalition government in iraq or the current government in iraq. what do you say to that? how can the u.s. walk that line and still come out okay in the region with an independent kurdistan? >> well, this is always the problem for the kurds. we are friends are always working against our best interest of the kurds and best interest of the kurds themselves. turkey until recently wouldn't even allow its kurds to engage

the fight against isis. their turkey is with the second largest army in nato. and it's just -- tanks, you know, watching over kobani but until recently, not getting involved. we know funding for isis pours in from the gulf states but we can't seem to stop that. that's why they're so well financed. in iraq, not to be pejorative, but the iraqi army abandoned the field in the face of isis, and you know, baghdad is notoriously divided and core rupt. there's a good president in place now, who by the way is a kurd. frequently the aid we give to baghdad doesn't arrive in the hands of the kurds. that's why i'm hoping we'll begin to deal directly with the kurds and stand with them in this fight against sigs. >> it's a challenge we've never faced bere. isis recruiting our very own to join them. u.n. has a new report showing 15,000 have been recruited from

80 different countries to either syria or iraq. some of these countries have never had an experience with al qaeda before. what does this mean for us? how much more challenging does this make the fight? >> it makes the fight more challenging. i'm not a fear monger but i want to say, we're not just fighting an isis that is a military force. we're also fighting, as you're saying, an isis ideology. we had a beheading in oklahoma we know to be influenced by isis kind of thinking, the shooting of the young military officer in canada, sachl thing. this is an ideology we have to deal with. not to be a fear monger but women are being sold for $10 as sex slaves in isis-controlled territory. 8 million people are under the control of isis right now. and the kurds are there on the front line. that's why i try to urge our lawmakers to stand with them and support them at this time. >> steven mansfield, appreciate it. >> good to be with you. up next, the deep freeze. >> the big chill --

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getting snowstorm over the midwest, over a foot in many spots. closing in on a foot already. just north of minneapolis. there's a lot of snow in the plains as well. rapid city into wisconsin, northern wisconsin getting absolutely slammed. this is ahead of schedule. we don't like it see it this early this year, and these are the brutal windchills. it feels like 7 below zero already in cheyenne. feels like 14 in minneapolis. wind-driven snow there. look at the contrast. feels like 71 in st. louis. so, unfortunately, the cold front is moving south over the next couple of days. over 6 million people under a winter storm warning. thankfully, chicago will be spared by this storm. at least the snow. the cold will be moving in over the next few days. rights now you can see the northeast escaping the arctic air. it rotates around. arctic air spilling into the central of the country, down south. by sunday we're in it here in the northeast. cooler weather, not arctic and it doesn't get cold enough for snow. look what's waiting here, another area of arctic air

pivots aren't and that will swing in for next week. we will be talking about this extreme cold and potentially more snow next week as well. let's take a short-term forecast. tomorrow the snow will wind down. that's good news. the cold begins to push south. tomorrow 60s, still beautiful in the northeast. 44 in chicago. 20s in minneapolis. then look what happens as we move into wednesday. that arctic air slides up, freezing in kansas city. freezing in chicago. one last mild day here in the northeast, 60s. that changes as we head over the next few takes. minneapolis here in the deep freeze. as the snow tapers off, look at these high temperatures. windchills below zeros at times and that will last into the weekend. we're wondering in the northeast, big cities, when does it happen for us. it's thursday. that's our transition time. wednesday into thursday. it gets cold again and then temperatures are stuck in the 40s as we head into the week. it's chilly but not so bad in new york city. and no major snow. now over to you, luke, in washington. >> scarf weather in indeed.

thank you so much. speaking of storms, how about that turn, can obama dls cacarer another one? you like that? you like that? only in america. the supreme court will check the legality of federal health care for states that opted out of the exchanges. this could give cover for the gop majority who seem to be having a hard time deciding what they want to do next regarding that issue. now that their campaign promises are facing reality. >> if i had the ability, i'd get rid of it. obviously, it's also true, it's still there. we'll be discussing how to move forward on this issue. >> the house, i'm sure we'll move to repeal obamacare because it should be repealed. it should be replaced. >> everything sold new again. for more on obamacare and all things politics under a new gop

majority, let's bring in angela, democratic strategist. thanks for joining us. >> hey, look. >> i'm trying to look for a silver lining in the democrats absolute spanking last week, and one thing i can conjure up here is the supreme court might be able to give a little fuel to the democrats' fire if they were to gut the aca. so my -- >> that's a good thing? >> no, i'm not saying it's a good thing. for political purposes. how does health care play within the democratic coalition moving forward, if it were to be gutted by the supreme court, could that, perhaps, inspire the base to turn out more heavily in 2016? do you see that at play at all? >> i think it would inspire the base to move to canada, luke. i'm not inspired by that. obviously, you introduced me as a democratic strategist. the blue shirt gives it away.

i would say it to abby. >> i'm in a blue dress, too. i'm not a democratic strategist. >> luke, to your point, i think the reality of this particular situation is that the supreme court considering obamacare at this particular time, it gives me great pause. they are doing this before there's a circuit court ruling on this which means there are four, maybe even five supreme court justices that would be on the side of what you're talking about, gutting it. we know they enjoy gutting things. they did it to the voting rights act last summer. the other thing you want to consider about this is the timing, right? this would be a march consideration argument before the supreme court and then ruling in june. the timing is also precarious for democratics and i think the country at large. we really need to stop looking although health care in this country as a partisan issue. i see it as a fundamental right. i think there are people on both

sides of the aisle that see that as well and are interested as to why. after an election where people said they are tired of the gridlock. why the republican leaders now are saying, oh, we're going to reveal obama care again. i don't think there's any real appetite for that. they were probably hoping, frankly, republicans would concentrate more on economy. >> universal health care was a decades long progressive dream achieved with obamacare. not completely, right? but most of the way it gets us there. and dems ran away from obamacare. they abandoned it. don't they deserve whatever they get for abandoning obamacare? >> the problem with that state of mind is, sure, you can punish the democrats but -- >> they've been fished enough. >> you're going to punish poor people. you're going to punish kids. >> shouldn't we be standing up for poor kids and -- >> let's not say we. we did not do that.

other folks that were wearing the blue shirts that did that. i would not have advised that. they did not call me and ask me if that was a good strategy. it was a terrible strategy. i don't stand by it. i won't defend it. it was awful. now we have to pay the consequences for it, which we could have had to pay anyway with this particular supreme court deciding they're going to look at subsidies. >> normally when politicians promise something, you expect them to deliver on it -- well, that's the case. you have a number of lawmakers coming into d.c. that use that line in the campaign, i'm going to repeal obamacare, including joni ernst, many of her voters are expecting her to go in there and keep fighting this fight. the supreme court may press the pause button for a minute but don't a lot of these folks have to follow through on that promise? >> based on what we saw at their press conferences last week, they are going to continue to

repeal and maybe one day replace obamacare. and i think the other thing that's scary about ms. ernst is she not only promised to go through on a repeal of obamacare but she talked about trying to jail the bureaucrats that went into states to enforce obamacare. these are extreme positions that i really don't think have a place in this democracy. again, the voters weren't necessarily say, oh, hey, the republican party is full of great ideas. it was just reprimanding washington for the gridlock. >> someone like joni ernst will go to washington and moderate and other times, oh, no, what they said they were going to do, they're doing. there's also a big threat to obamacare at the state level. democrats were hoping they could push forward obamacare expansion by unseating republican governors. that didn't happen. so, this idea that medicaid expand is going to be inevitable and too hard for governors to resist, it doesn't look like that is the case.

>> i think, again, that's another harsh reality. the standards we currently have for medicaid, i don't think, are low enough. there are families where if you make $32,000, then you qualify for a family of four. it's like you're poor but -- you're not poor enough. it's this crazy standard that really needs to be looked at. we're again dealing with people that think that health care is a benefit to be paid for. if you don't have the money, oh, well, you're out of luck. i won't say what i was really thinking but you're out of luck. i think we really have to deal with the challenges in these particular policies. i don't see them getting better any time soon. >> it's just remarkable. first pass in 2009 we're still talking about it almost weekly in 2014. it's a political issue that does not go away. thank you so much. we appreciate it. up next, 43, 41, 45, we're talking about w. and his dad and brother jeb. "the cycle" rolls on with

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spanish. i only know 50 words. one thing you can say about the bushes, love them or hate them, is they're quite authentic. that's something pretty rare in politics today. everyone is talking about jeb bush and a jeb bush run. i would say he's my first choice for 2016. he reminds me of my dad in a lot of ways. a popular governor, someone thoughtful about the big issues, compassionate when it comes to education and immigration, which by the way, republicans want to win in 2016, they need a voice on that. my sense is the establishment would hope for someone like jeb. they had a pretty successful night last week on tuesday. i feel like they're getting some momentum for 2016. another concern, though, about jeb is -- well, for one, getting in the primaries. that's why he reminds me of my dad. he is more moderate on these issues. that could be a challenge. the other one is the bush name. there is no way another bush could actually run and win the presidency. here's what i say about that. i come from a big family. we like to clump people with the same last name into the same

bucket and say, they must be like their sibling, their dad. jeb has a resume of his own to speak of. i think it's smart for everyone to look at him as an individual, see what he can bring to the table. i think hillary should be most concerned about someone like jeb. >> it's interesting. a couple thoughts. last tuesday night's results, good for the republican party in general, not necessarily good for jeb bush because he has some rivals. scott walker coming back, john kasich, so you have more governors who are more d.c.-outsidery than he is by virtue of his name and ties. i think that is a potential challenge for him. the other thing i've been thinking about, are we really going to have hillary clinton versus jeb bush? to me the one message that is so loud and clear from this last election and from really the past several elections, which we seem to have wave after wave after wave, is people are disgusted with the d.c. establishment and they want something different. obama was outside of that.

you couldn't get more d.c. establishment than jeb bush and hillary clinton. >> that's right. abby, you're right, hillary should be concerned about jeb bush because he's another centrist candidate. she would rather run against rand paul. >> or ted cruz. >> anti-dynasty, pro-fresh face, anti-government. you can't make these arguments against hillary when your standard bearer is jeb bush. the republican primary, at least in 2012 did not support the adult in the room. you talk about him on immigration, he both sides of immigration. he contradicted his own book, luke. i don't know if he'll be able to get away from being afraid of the far right. >> a few things. every establishment wants jeb bush to run. speaker boehner will say it to anyone who lives, jeb will be a great president. i think he has a really tough

time in a primary. i want to go back to a few things you mentioned. number one, bush versus clinton. joe trippi said something ironic will, if it was bush versus clinton, it may be the only race with real issues. they may be more focus on the issues than something that happened in the past. i'll make two final points. abby, the point about the bushes being authentic, i have never heard of anyone who went to andover and yale who's a w.a.s.p., going to texas and is a cowboy hero. >> i agree with you there, luke. >> that was just being real. >> yes, yes, yes. in terms of relatable, having ray bea beer with, i agree. i don't think jeb bush runs for this reason, if jeb were to lose, that hurts george p.'s

chance at moving forward. i think he wants his son to have an opportunity in a few more cycles. george p. has a latino heritage through his mother. he's viewed as more young, centrist republican. >> we talk about no one wants a washington insider but what about barack obama, fresh face, outside washingtoner -- >> washingtonian. >> yes. >> meet the most celebrated butcher takes a seat at the table. to all the veterans... no longer in uniform, but still serving... on the job and in our communities... whose dedication and commitment to excellence continues... in every mission, whatever it may be... affecting our lives every day... for your continued service, we salute you. this message of appreciation to our nations' veterans is brought to you by

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for the most part, all beef is fed grass for 85% of its life. it's finished off on grain to give it intramuscle some interm. so grow a animal finish on all-natural greens is a sustainable livable product. something that we call never-ever. it's a never-ever program. never ending growth programs or antibiotics ever are introduced to the animal but not organic. so i think organic peaked about 20 years ago and you seen a incline in all-natural product. >> there's a cut at the very end. >> yes. >> we often hear about celebrity chefs but not always celebrity

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because clinton loved to be linked to elvis and everyone played along. the incumbent he was battling said this. and his running mate said this. but the elvis they were talking about was a specific elvis, early elvis, charmer, seducer, trulyirredescent men. elvis with the rise of rock and roll. with clinton his own morning in america. if there's another clinton presidency, or flirtation with it, then the symbols of young elvis will not apply. hillary takes it into vegas elvis. when he rocked the king. we when he had contempt for

hippies and counter culture in general. a turn for the man who was the catalyst for rock and roll. hillary is like that. a household men. a person so rich gets in the way of things. she can't take d.c. by storm she is d.c. both elvis and hillary are far from perfect. but if you think a permanent demographic shift has occurred that has blocked the door for the white house for republicans then it becomes easy to fall in love with true eccentrics. when you embrace how much is at stake than you must be realistic when you talk about 2016. hillary knows the challenge will be defining a ration ali e.

we heard of hillary working with david huff who she helped win. but how she must root her campaign in a democratic mission of economic equality and settle on a core message of strategy and stick with it. if she can't clearly define why would should vote for her than she doesn't deserve votes. sounds like there's a wish for purity over pragmaticism. don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. after defeat she will only get to play defense. in the words of cross by, stills and nash, there's a road in the fisted glove, and the eagle flies with the dove, if you can't be with the one you love honey, love the one you live. that does it for the cycle. now with alex wagner starts now.

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