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that will be transferred to our turf. >> executive action. president obama is about to confront congress with immigration reform, setting up a major showdown. >> if congress failed to act, i would use all lawful authorities i possess to try to make the system work better. that will happen before the end of the year. >> open door policy, except that open door is the white house door. the secret service failure was worse than you imagined. >> was this a premier law enforcement agency, i would like to see it cleaned up to go back to the organization that we all admired and respected so much. i'm andrea mitchell in
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washington where the key vote will take place moments from now in the house. joining me is fbc's luke russert. tell us about the vote. the timing is coming up within the hour and what are your expectations for the roll call? >> the vote is behind schedule because the conference ruled the meetings and the conference is running late. don't read too much into that. they want to go home on friday and they will get it done quickly. we expect it to pass with overwhelming margin and expect them against red state democrats. it will be interesting to see how it plays out in the senate. most likely monday or tuesday. mary landrieu said she has a vote to break the filibuster. she has 14 democratic votes and so far we don't know all of the numbers that she had. all that being said, it moves forward, it moves along and
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president obama gave an indication earlier from myanmar that it looks like you would veto that. there is outrage from progressive liberals that don't like the fact that this is moving forward and anything that should have been used is a card for each negotiation. the president can do that if he vetoes the bill. he feels a last ditch hail mary where she is trailing in louisiana as well as it's not funding her campaign on the air. it's not really worked and causing the environmentalists. it's an interesting look in the democratic coalition if nothing else. >> lake duck politics. we will talk to you later in the show. if are more on today's vote and all things political, i am joined by mike rogers, chairman of the house intelligence committee. good to see you. the vote is coming up on keystone. i will assume you are a yes. >> absolutely.
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one of the things that has a national security implication is energy. the more that we can do to promote more energy here at home and even the possibility that we get to the place to export natural gas and other things, it impacts the decisions putin will make and vend zuvenezuela. they have been a rogue actor. the fact that we can bring down energy costs here at home. we have seen it dip below $3 we have seen this before the holiday season. this is all good. we need to make sure people have more money in their pocket at the end of the month. >> let me switch to the secret service report. we thought it was bad and it's worse than that. this report came out from homeland. what's your reaction to the fact
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that there were secret service officer who is did not even know the lay out of the white house? one officer was listening to his cell phone and his radio was not on. let's talk about this. >> you start to wonder if there is not a broader cultural problem of management. i have served with them when i was an fbi agent. i had the great fortune to deal with them. there phenomenal people and very capable and talented. the management seems off kilter here. you can't have this many events. i am not talking just at the top. there is somewhere that has this cultural problem that we are going have to get to the bottom of and very, very soon. >> just to go through this, the investigation found they not only had inadequate staffing and management and all the rest, there was poor visibility because of construction factors. the counter assault team didn't
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know the lay out of the white house and couldn't run in. the alarm and communication system we knew was not functioning because they had to have this turned off. the lack of tactical response means the earpiece and the automatic locking mechanism didn't work. this calls for an overall, they need to make big changes. >> and it's a management problem. they can be solved with good management. even the construction. that doesn't mean you don't have construction, but you need to reconfigure the positions to provide adequate protection. the fact that they did not understand the lay out is a management problem. they weren't given the time and resources to make sure they were trained properly for that. it's a cultural issue they are going to have to change and need to change soon. this is a great organization and
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it's starting to taint the good work of so many of these agents who are capable and committed patriots. >> i wanted to ask you about the new audio of al baghdady. it had recent information indicating he was not kill and may have not been injured by recent strikes. what is your assessment of what you know about him and his survival. >> still waiting for final determination. it appears that that was the day. an audio tape. it's significant because we believe he may have been injured in that particular act. i think the fact that it was an audio tape speaks volumes. it shows you the resiliency not just of this individual who is a charismatic leader and has been able to push out around his holding of eastern syria and western iraq.
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it will provide disruption in the leadership. that's a good thing. it doesn't mean that we wrapped up this problem if we take him out. this is a problem where he has cultivated leadership in a way that has been pretty impactful at them gaining ground and holding ground and including by the way using violence to control cities and it's the population. none of that is going away. we need to have a sustained high tempo effort if you will disrupt or dismantle isis the way they operate today. >> thank you so much. good to see you. keystone pipeline legislation, executive action on immigration, two more years of wrangling with the congress for president obama when he returns from asia. chuck todd is the moderator of "meet the press" and the author
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of the stranger. barack obama in the white house. i don't know how you do it all. your day job and night job and weekend job. you are just off a plane. y in doing the book, what did you learn going back over your notes and all your rich reporting about the way this president is handling mid-term defeat and the process of facing off with congress. he seems to be combative. >> the question is what is he going to take away from this. >> we have a richer understanding of the lesson he decided to take away. he capitulated to the democrats.
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that's his impression. that's why you wonder the actions he is taking and why is he going say no, i am not giving more time because he shouldn't have delayed six months ago. he said no, i'm not going to back down. the lessons he took away is for too long, done with congressional democrats. what did nancy pelosi needs. he is enjoying the idea that he is unshackled from should go to worry about members of his party. >> in the book, you write for the average republican who is turned up at a local district or meeting or county convention, the only thing worse would have been a member voting for immigration that barack obama and chuck schumer backed. they use change too. he gained nothing by sticking his neck out from a bill that wouldn't pass the conference anyway. that is your insight from the book. how we got to this impasse.
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>> we are there where the republican party is. they are very split on this. the business wing would like it, but they have no influence. the grass roots, the populous wing of the water is rewritten for business. >> the republicans came in on the eve of his election deciding they were going to be confrontational. >> what is the stranger and i'm fascinated by the title. what tells us about this man, barack obama elected so significantly with such margins in 2008, the politician who hates politics. what responsibility do you put that for his ability to connect
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with his own party leaders on the hill? >> i wonder and it's funny, how different relationship would be with republican fist he came in and instead of 59, it's 52. instead of when they did the outreach, they had to do the perfunctory. he would have gone and done this with the reagan and clinton ways. you find the 8 to 10 that most politically benefit. the blue state republicans and try to have basically work with them and negotiate out. because he didn't need them, it fed the notion that he was going to work with republicans and gave too much power to the democratic leadership. he never has been able to change that since. >> in the way he approaches
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decisions, so rationally. sometimes it's not rational. you say the reliance on rationality and logic that so defines obama ignores the irrationality of politics. the scandal was not about the misguided actions of bureaucrats and little known agency. it was the irs, the most hated institution in government. it wreaked of the awful politics and brought down the administration and the purpose. with the obama administration and not with the critics. he didn't get that. >> and sometimes, one of the most telling parts of the interview is last cent when he said i don't always do this. the irs is a classic example of him.
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that's perfectly rational. as president you sometimes have to participate. >> there is a lot being written by the fact that he is surrounded by yes people and not by anything willing to challenge him. is that fair or piling on? >> i think there is piling on on that. he is not somebody that has -- right up until 2010, he did spread his wings and got outside. but it's funny in the book. one of the things is the advice he took to heart from bill clinton. that's when they began he started appreciating the advice he was getting from bill clinton after the 2010 shelac. he made too many changes. one thing clinton was not happy with how the years went in his presidency, he was not always fully happy with it. one of the lessons that
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president obama took away from him, don't overreact and change too many of your advisers. he cent the circle tighter. >> who is going to join the administration? >> they said they look at the situation and they think what am i going to get done? >> in fairness to people to join this administration and go through all the financial disclosures and everything else and divest and move the family or whatever, you make big sacrifices. >> or a lame duck period that may not be fulfilling. >> this is so exciting. thank you and congratulations. what have you got coming up? >> we will do a lot on immigration and health care. secretary of health and human services, bobby jindal who has not done the exchanges. from the cleveland clinic.
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we want to do a separate dive on health care. >> chuck todd, as always. baby, it is cold outside. the polar invasion reached the east coast and not going away any time soon. another reinforcing blast of arctic air is going to keep temperatures below average into the middle of next week. while we are on the weather, the weather man, al roker did it. this morning he broke the guinness world record for the longest continual weather forecast. an amazing 34 nonstop hours. all he gets for that is a certificate? i don't know about that. this is "andrea mitchell reports." congratulations al roker. only on msnbc. ♪ (man) some things are worth holding onto. they're hugging the tree. (man) that's why we got a subaru.
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a scathing new report reveals the security breeches were far worse than previously reported at the white house when the intruder got all the way into the white house in september. peter alexander has more. >> this is the home video of fence jumper omar gonzalez armed with a knife running across the north lawn in september. a highly critical report from the department of homeland security. knocking a female secret service officer to the ground, gonzalez walked past the officer who grabbed a flashlight instead of a baton. he heard left and walked into the east room and was tackled by an officer in the center hall way. the report adds that armed counter assault team did not enter because they were unfamiliar with the lay out of the white house. they waited to get into a tactical formation before going in. >> this was an unfortunate group
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of mishaps that all unbelievably happened at the exact same time. >> the secret service for a review of technical and other failures. it found that the secret service's alarm system and radios failed to work and many of the officers on duty didn't see him as he jumped the fence. among the failures, the inaction of a canine handler whose earpiece was out and was not listening to a two-way radio. the officer was taking a personal call on his cell phone and only saw gonzalez after seeing another officer chase him. the head of the committee told us more hearings are planned. >> this is a federal law enforcement agency that has gone a wry. >> peter alexander joins me from the white house. how does this happen? i'm nervous looking at you so i will go tearing through the front door. >> it's a good point you make.
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let us pan the camera over. i want to show you something. we don't see this all that often. we have been standing outside most of the day. remember the circumstances right now are the same. the president is out of town, but you see the armed members of the u.s. secret service standing guard on the lawn in the distance. we hear a small protest on pennsylvania avenue. it is closed and not clear why that is right now. it's obvious that the secret service got the message not just from the initial findings, but they have been dealing with the mishaps right now. the system is built with redundancy. they can afford a couple, but not the layer after layer they witnessed in september. they make the point for years they have been 100% effective, but all it takes is one. that's what the problem is.
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there was a test that was so badly failed. >> just seeing that he is a team member that didn't know what they were doing last time. they show they get the message. more shocking revelations today about a festering scandal in the u.s. nuclear command. secretary hagel ran through a laundry list of problems and acknowledged billions will have to be spent upgrading the program. >> as long as we have nuclear weapons, we will and we must ensure that they are safe, secure, and effective. the internal and external reviews show a consistent lack of investment and support for nuclear forces for far too many years left us with too little margin to cope with modern stresses. >> nbc chief pentagon correspondent jim miklaszewski
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reports. you may have been surprised by the details revealed in the official review. >> let's go through that laundry list quickly. it was not too many years ago that the air force lot of track of six nuclear weapons that were flown across the united states. the air force ship nuclear triggers to taiwan when they ordered simple communications radios, but the coupe degrass came when we learned for 1500 weapons, the air force had one wrench, one tool kit that could be used or had to be used to attach nuclear warheads to missiles. when one of the three nuclear bases needed it, the other base would fedex it across country. >> time out, mick. you are talking about fedexing a wrench across the country to fix a nuclear missile?
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>> right. to attache warhead to a missile or detach it. whatever. what are the explanations? yeah, but think of the ingenuity. really? hagel said today, secretary of defense hagel said this is a serious problem we are going to tackle and spend somewhere around $10 billion over the next five years. the root of the problem of course is after the cold war. there was less attention paid to the nuclear mission. the air force and the navy took their eyes off the ball essentially and didn't pay attention. to try to change that culture, they are going to increase training. they are going to up the number of personnel at many of the nuclear facilities which had been not ignored certainly, but again many in the air force and navy thought the nuclear mission was quite frankly a career
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ender. the officials stress however that even with all these problems that occurred there was no threat to the american public or to national security. andrea? >> here some of us thought the dr. strange love was the problem, but it was a wrench. and a surgeon working in sierra leone and diagnosed with ebola may be flown to the u.s. tomorrow for treatment. he is a citizen of sierra leone and a permanent resident who lived in maryland with his wife. the 44-year-old is going to be traveling to omaha to be treated at the nebraska medical center where two other patients were successfully treated. they confirm with m srksnbc wily for the evacuation. there was a question as to whether he was able to travel, but he now will be traveling.
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president obama's upcoming executive action on immigration is setting off a political storm in congress and will have a huge impact on millions of undocumented individuals and families across the country. joining me to talk about all of this, alan gomez who covers immigration for "usa today." welcome all. first where do we stand on what the president is likely to do and we know he will tweak it when he comes home, but the first report by the "new york times," up to five million people could be affected.
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>> that is the delay we are experiencing. that and the president 12i8 being overseas. up to five million undocumented immigrants would be temporarily legalized and doesn't have the power to award citizenship, but has the power to guarantee they won't be deported right away. also refocusing on border security in terms of focusing how the border control operates. that is what we are waiting for. and the president because he is overseas, but the officials are meeting to try to work out how far this is going go. >> what they are focusing on is the discretion.
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giving papers to people who have children who are born here and who themselves were not legally documented. that is where you have the problem. >> we saw a couple of years ago and this was the first test case. when he created the deferred action for new arrivals where he allowed immigrants to be brought to the country to register with the federal government and be allowed to stay here and be protected from deportation. that's about 580,000 young men approved from the program so far. he can expand that and continue protecting undocumented immigrants while still carrying out and deporting some people. this is one of the things we will be hearing about in this republican senate in the next couple of weeks. next step of allowing them to
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work. it's something that hasn't been test and a lot more difficult to understand. >> the white house argument is that it has been tested previously when the attorney general for ronald reagan permitted nicaraguans to be in on the contra war. people were permitted to work. that is the argument that has been previous executive action. >> the first we are aware of came before eisenhower. he was the first that got the ball rolling. both bush and president reagan grandfathered 1.5 million individuals to provide them a status until the immigration system was fixed. we have been living under a broken system for 20 years. there was a reason why we have
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an accumulation. what the president is trying to do is saying the moment they sign something, we have to address the folks that are being torn apart by families. >> even though they have waited and there has been a senate bill that passed overwhelmingly that has been sitting on the house side, leading to the president's frustration. their argument is you just lost. this is now a republican congress. both houses. for you to take this action now which mitch mcconnell said is waving a red flag. >> it is, but at the same time the president knows they are not going to pass immigration reform. they made that clear. we mentioned that the bill passed the senate and the house never drafted anything. the base will not lessen.
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there republicans that would like to do something, but they wanted to confront the president and the republican base will be out rage and stirred up and they will push republicans to confront the president and so you have mitch mcconnell saying we will not shut down the government, but there will be elements that won't settle for less when this happened. it will set off a bomb. >> boehner unfortunately has less room because of the individuals in congress are more conservative to that. he has a window of opportunity during this session because republicans are on the way out that would support the bill. >> if they oppose this down the road, some members like jeb bush and marco rubio and others have been warning all along they have to take action on immigration.
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>> a lot of the senate races were in states with very tiny hispanic populations. in 2016, it's a different ball game. you look at stays like arizona, florida, utah that have these gigantic hispanic populations. they will have a big voice. in 2012, the hispanic voice is incredibly powerful in a presidential race. if they oppose that, it will hurt them, but if they are able to come on a couple of laws whether he vetoed them or not, they can say we are trying something. >> in nevada as well. alan gomez. thank you all very much. and the house will vote at any moment on the keystone pipeline. joining me now is the assistant democratic leader.
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congressman, thank you very much for being with us. >> thank you for having me. >> i think so. i had no idea how many republicans are against this. in fact, very few. >> how many democrats are you going to lose? >> i think so. i talked to a few this morning who told me that they will definitely vote yes on this. it's all about the job creation that is being advertised, around 45,000 jobs and whether or not this will harm the environment. it seems as if a lot of people are relying upon that 2011 report that came from the department and indicated that the environmental damage would
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be miniscule. i think that's having a lot of impact on some democrats from the red states. >> what about the immigration debate that we have been talking about and the likely hood that the president will take action. how do you defend that given the fact that the republicans are saying it's up to them. >> it's here in the house for 18 months. i think it's high time that the president were to act. as you know, i have been urging the president with the executive orders to do this. i think it would put him in big company. they can use the executive order to do administration proclamation. truman used it on the armed
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services. i can go down and see where the presidents have used executive authority to do mighty big things that have very positive impacts on the country. i am calling upon the president to take his place among that group that i just did. i think it's very, very important for him to do so. >> let me play for you what the speaker had to say. >> we will fight the president tooth and nail if he continues down this path. all the options are on the table. there no decisions made as to how we will fight this if he proceeds. we know what a fight they had with this congress over the
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question of slavery. what a fight we had over immigration in the armed services and tried for strom thurman out of the party and formed a new party under the banner over the integration of the armed service. this issue is just as important to this country as integrating the armed services was back in the 1940s. i say to the president, have at it. sign the executive order and let them do what they will. >> congressman, thank you very much, mr. leader. go vote. >> waiting for the arrival of prince william and the duchess of cambridge. we have the first details of their visit. their royal highnesses will be in new york starting december
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of a residential building where the bedrooms have been turned into sniper places. she was once a school teacher, but spends her days watching and trying to find the enemy. just across the street. born and raised, leaving was never an option. kobani is our home. where else would we go. we will stay here and fight. it's important for women to be strong in the mideast. they are rarely seen or heard from. we stand here for all the women of the region. >> richard engle joins me from turkey. you spent time there and you were with the men and the women. we were stunned boy watching the women taking these roles. what impressions do you have
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about kobani and what they can achieve there. >> of all of the fighting groups that they had over the last several years, the kurdish fighters were among the most organized and the most secular. they live in something of a progressive idealistic society with no distinction of genders and men and women do the cooking and the work together. women and men are commanders and they don't question each other's authority and they have no formal rank. very different than when we spent time with this group. it was a nationalist group that had a very islamic under tone in many cases. this this case the kurdish fighters were organized and they were principaled and had their issues with isis and issues with turkey. in kobani we found them to be a cohesive group of fighters.
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>> looking at the other side of the border at the iraqi forces, we heard testimony from the joint chief chairman that you would be considering having u.s. troops accompany them outside mosul for instance. it seems to be the slippery slope towards the combat mission and advisers. >> if you look at the difference here, you have the iraqi army with $25 billion to train. equipped with american made weapons and not holding up nearly as well. it continues to collapse and continues to be infiltrated by iranian militias.
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and the fact that general dempsey is hinting that he is not ruling out the possibility that american troops may have to go on the ground to fight with iraqi troops that they were ever able to do an ambitious offensive like take back the city from isis. this low on isis started out with a few advisers and reinforcements for the american embassy in baghdad. people to help and military advisers and more military advisers and more money. >> richard engle, we are looking forward to the special report tonight at 9:00 eastern for the
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>> a big honor and a surprise for our friend brian williams. the nightly news anchor and managing editor was inducted into the new jersey hall of fame. the surprise was when the boss
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showed up. >> to paraphrase a friend of mine, if walter cronkite and jon stewart had a baby, and due to the ongoing controversy over same-sex marriage, they had to abandon that baby on the new jersey turnpike and it grew up to be a news anchor, its name would be brian williams. >> brian grew up in newtown, new jersey and has a home on the shore. clearly he was born to run. that does it for this edition of andr"andrea mitchell reports.re" follow us online and ronan farrow joins me with what's coming up next. ronan? >> love that clip. where are bruce springsteen introductions. we have a big show up ahead. we have just gotten a final resolution to the keystone fight for now at least on the hill.
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