compromise will bring an end to politics itself let alone an end to a presidential term that is only half begun. so quack, quack, everybody. quack, quack. that does it for the "the cycle" this week. "now" with alex wagner starts right now. what's the best way to follow up executive action? with a veto. it's friday, november 14th, and this is "now." >> they basically are giving away keystone for nothing. >> a key vote. >> the house voting to approve the keystone pipeline. >> the senate plans to vote next week. >> there is going to be enough support for this thing to pass. >> i have to constantly push back against this idea. the keystone pipeline is either a massive jobs bill or lowering gas price. >> a veto is a possibility.

>> we should judge it on whether or not it accelerates climate change. >> this is the dirtiest oil on the planet. >> or whether it helps the american people with their energy costs and their gas prices. >> we don't need to do this. >> it pits the president against some in his own party. >> a few democrats told me they will vote yes. >> mary landrieu says she can break the filibuster. >> this is about the big oil companies and their influence right now on the congress. vote, baby, vote. hours ago, in a vote -- not a veto. in a vote of 252-161, the house approved construction of the keystone pipeline. 31 democrats voted in favor of the project setting the stage for a senate vote on tuesday. the reports indicate that keystone is one vote shy of the 60 needed. if the senate does get the pipeline over the finish line, a

bill would head straight to president obama's desk and it would set up what could be the first congress convertible veto of his presidency. that is assuming the president does indeed plan to veto. in burma the president hinted at that without explicitly saying it. >> with respect to keystone i've been clear in the past. my position hasn't changed. this is a process that is supposed to be followed. until we know what the route it, it's very hard to finish that evaluation and i don't think we should short circuit that process. and i have to -- constantly push back against this idea that somehow the keystone pipeline is either this massive jobs bill for the united states or is somehow lowering gas price. >> still, the lack of a specific veto threat is keeping people guessing especially considering

the white house threatened to veto in 2012 for the same reasons being articulated today. then there is the other burning question, why is harry reid allowing a senate vote when almost everyone agrees it will not do anything to help mary landrieu win her runoff. it makes you doubt the math skills. democrats stake careful aim at feet, prepare both barrels for firing. democrats would be giving something away and losing support from key supporters at the same time it's crazy. joining me now is washington post columnist, eugene robinson and howard fineman. it does seen crazy. eugene, do you have any anyone sight? >> no, next question. why is it happening? because mary landrieu wants it to happen. and i don't think it's going to get her -- you know, going to keep her senate seat, frankly.

she does. >> do you think harry reid thinks it is going to keeper in her seat. >> he may think what the hell, you know, he's the outgoing majority leader and might think this is a low cost vote. >> and harry reid has been criticized for binding all the democrats to votes or no votes that he didn't want. >> right. >> he wouldn't let them vote on all kinds of things. and now he's saying, you want to vote on some of this stuff, go you ahead. >> is that cutting off your nose to spite your face? >> of course it is. >> this is the last bit of power that the democrats have. >> he was criticized for never letting the moderate democrats vote on stuff. now go ahead. go ahead. >> do it your way. >> they don't they -- the democrats don't think that mary landrieu can win. they're not giving her any

money. we're going to give you this vote but not going to give you a penny. that's what we think of your chances. and the only way the president cannot give it away is a bargaining chip is to veto it. if they do get the votes he has to veto it or heless -- as luke russert was saying he just gives it away. >> why doesn't he just say i'm going to veto it. they issued a veto guidance on the same grounds in 2012. >> i don't know. you think he would say that or might say, look, i'll give you this for that, right. >> yes. bargaining. >> an increase on the minimum wage on to that bill. tack on 10.10 and i'll sign it. >> this is kras matthew's contention. there is no common ground. so you trade that -- >> compromise.

>> there is something you want for something i want. >> and by the way he may say he's not going to veto it. he'll veto it. he has to veto it. >> i wonder whether you think the executive action on immigration, the elite provisions of which has put the white house in the position of maybe worrying about too much strident executive action all at the same time. >> as if they're not going to be charged with that? >> right. >> and let's keep in mind, this president has issued fewer vetoes than president james garfield, who was in office for months in 1881. >> noted power hungry president. >> he will be painted with this brush regardless. >> if president obama decides to have lunch they're going to call that sweeping -- >> exactly. >> meal power. >> like the president, not a king. what does he need having lunch? >> what is this tuna fish sandwich you speak of?

but let me ask you, in terms of the matter at hand which is -- i mean, the keystone has been -- it is of great import, perhaps more symbolically than practically in terms of the impact it could have, you know, environmentalists will say this is a very bad trajectory to put us on. it is filthy energy. there is also the jobs question. which has gotten completely inflated and very few people want to talk about the estimates from the state department which is 42,000 temporary jobs during a two-year construction period. 50 u.s. jobs, 35 permanent jobs. >> that is the estimate and republicans say it's tens of thousands of jobs. >> this is a huge job creator. >> so, no. the issue itself has been superseded by the controversy over it.

something went wrong a couple weeks ago. did democrats not motivate their voters to come out to the polls? were the voters disappointed that they hadn't got anything out of it? in which you have to veto this. you have no business voting on it. but the president has to veto it. it's a -- >> he has to. >> although -- >> he has a lot of cover. >> the general polls is sort of in favor of keystone. and the problem is that everybody's in an environmentalist. everybody likes to think of themselves that way. but the opponent and the people -- the carbon based lobby, if you will. is very specific and in specific places. that our electoral college states and senate states. and to people in like, louisiana, it's a hugely symbolic thing is one of the reasons that mary landrieu is

going to go down is because she is associated with the president. >> and the pipeline did not go through louisiana. >> but it is an indictment of oil and gas. >> it's a gulf thing. and in a state like pennsylvania, where the democrats are going to have a chance to pick up a senate seat in 2016, going to go after pat toomey, it's not helpful to be seen for the democratic party to be seen as opposed to carbon. i know it sounds silly but if you drive on the pennsylvania turnpike you know what i'm talking about. >> exactly. >> to the environmental side, i'll say, as/gave the state department figure on jobs this is the equivalent of putting 250,000 to 5.5 million cars on the road in terms of carbon. it's worth noting it is happening during a week when the president announced a landmark agreement with china. we have huge epa regulations

coming down the pipeline, no pun intended in the next six to eight weeks. is he seeing it as an environmental threat. >> that is going to wibe a republican line. >> or a democratic line. it can help him with the base and hurt him with -- or -- >> and this is also, let's be honest, a legacy thing for the president. it's something he believes in and he wants to lay this down. these are huge, far-reaching actions that republicans are going to scream about regardless of what happens with the keystone pipeline. there is an argument to be made that the tar sands will be exploited one way or another. it will happen more rapidly if the pipeline is built but it's probably going to happen. >> that seems to be the white house. >> the biggest threat right now on all of this is the economics of oil. the oil prices are plunging. which is making the economics of

this -- the economics, not the environmental aspect the economics dicier. if you look at the polls the younger you go, the more staunchly people are voters are. and the president and the democrats -- those people did not show up in 2014. and i have to have a menu of things to get them back in 2016. >> it may hurt the president with the ones that he lost in 2014. stay with me, guys. after the break, while speaker boehner vows to fight the white house tooth and nail, president obama is moving full-steam ahead and his actions could define his legacy. and mission creep? america's highest ranking general has not ruled out combat troops against isis. and they take risks to make your day brighter we look at fearless workers who are doing

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as early as next week millions of undocumented immigrants can breathe easier, protected from deportation. president obama is expected to exert his executive authority granting work permits and giving clearer guidance on lower priority deportations. it could allow as many as 5 million people to step into broad daylight and republicans are deploying every metaphor under the sun to warn the president against it. >> when you play with matches, you take the risk of burning yourself. >> it will be a devastating blow. >> we're going to fight the president tooth and nail.

>> like waving a red flag in front of a bull. >> he is going to poise the well. >> all of the things, all of them bad. but the president maybe heeding the cries from another precinct, the american people, people who have been crying out for month first president to take action. >> [ speaking foreign language ]. >> translation, obama, listen, we are in the fight. and those people want this president to join them. back with me now are eugene robinson and howard fineman. and presidential his store, douglas brinkley. thanks for joining us on this -- during a week in which i think a lot of us are surprised at where the american presidency and american congress are headed. let me ask you from your perspective what the president is positioned to do here on the climate, on immigration, how

unlikely is this? in the trajectory of american politics for a be it who has been cowed in the mid-terms, facing what the electoral reality that he has, how unlikely is it for him to be taking such an aggressive stance? >> i don't think it's unlikely at all. president obama is a student of t.r. and they would sign executive orders. he has been ear making the order for a long time. he is not a lame duck president. he is determined to use these last two years and this bit on immigration is very close to his heart. i talked to the president before about his respect for caesar chavez and he wants to latinos in america. and the only way to do that is

to sign this executive order. i'm pretty sure it's going to happen. and i think the president will say no to the keystone pipeline. you don't make a deal with china and green light keystone. we'll see the progressive president obama less interested in what congress thinks in these last two years. >> howard has a profile and he contends that advisers in the white house feels liberated. it's done and it's over and he is moving on. he believes a better, bigger, bolder message would have served the party more successfully and these are the fruits of it. >> he's also spent a number of years listening to people tell him that he's not lyndon johnson and he doesn't know how to

shmooze with the congress. and republicans in congress said our job is to get rid of you after one term if there is any way we can. and mitch mcconnell who is a master strategist in the inside game told the republicans from the beginning, we are going to oppose him every step of the way and make him look incapacitated and weak so we can beat him in 2012. that didn't work. and the president is tired of it. on immigration, the fact is that most of americans -- certainly all of washington has been waiting for an immigration bill for years. >> yes. >> the senate passed one. the house has refused for years to take it up. so you need to remember all that before -- as you listen to republicans fullmy nate about the constitution because they in the congress have been on a sit down strike essentially. >> and there are probably the votes in the house -- >> there are. >> that's why he hasn't broughted up.

>> not only are there the votes but the polling is -- the american public is overwhelming in support of immigration reform. an nbc poll do you support a path to citizenship with conditions? 72% of the country. the only other thing supported in that number is background checks on handguns. >> this is what the president is going to propose could easily be framed in terms of family values. what he's talking about is parents and children. he's talking about children. by the way he's not talking about citizenship for the most part. what he's talking about is letting them work here and foe -- by the way, he's also deported more people. and that's an executive action too. i haven't heard them complaining about that. >> i haven't either. >> doug, let me ask you, regardless of the merits of the decisions and agenda, there is a broad agreement that things in washington as bad as they are

likely to get even worse and there is a constant -- republicans will say things have been bad before, there have been shutdowns before. has it been -- i mean, looking down the barrel of the next six months it feels like it is going to be an all-time low in terms of relations between the executive and legislative branches but republicans and democrats. can you give us a context for poisonous relationships? >> i agree with you on that. but the point of history is to remind ourselves is that our own times are not uniquely o'processive. i interviewed a woman from yale university doing a book right now on canings in the u.s. senate. >> that is an appropriate study right now. >> exactly. >> let's get the caning expert on here. >> we get a caning expert on. but the immigration problem the republicans have is that ronald

reagan signed executive orders for immigration form and george herbert walker bush did it. it has precedent with republican icons that you can do executive orders in this regard. i have to say again you are looking at an executive order veto president the next two years, the idea of any meaningful legislative achievement except for going after isil and the like you're not going to have it. his achievement will be the obamacare affordable care act but it's he will be seen more as a president that used executive order on behalf of people in need. >> you gene, joe scarborough had a thesis this morning and he thought the best play for the republicans was to let the executive action assistant and get immigration off the table, stand down on it. do you think it is likely they will.

>> not to take the bait? >> yeah. >> no, i don't think they will do that. i think there will be voices in the party who argue that as joe did this morning. but do you see the -- do you see ted cruz saying, you know, just let it pass? i don't see. that i don't see the larger house republican majority with more tea party members saying that. >> and especially if you have charles crowdhammer howard saying this is an impeachable action. >> i'm not surprised at all. the republicans point is there have been executive actions before and you talk about millions of people. it's going to feel big. the president wants it to feel big and feel like legislation. the "new york times" says the bigger and bolder the better. and the republicans will react to it. they'll talk constitution, constitution, constitution.

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isis, chuck hagel and martin dempsey testified in front of the armed services committee. >> as a coalition and as a nation we must prepare for a long and difficult struggle. there will be setbacks but we are seeing steady and sustainable progress. >> progress will be uneven at times but with strategic patience, the trend lines favor the coalition over the long term. >> the trend in the short term is less clear. iraqi officials have driven out fighters out of baiji. but this victory comes as many of the challenges of the strategy in siri have come into focus. the ap reported that militants have reached an accord in syria. militant leaders from the islamic state group and al qaeda gathered last week and agreed on a plan to stop fighting each other and work together against

their opponents. that same day the leader of isis emerged for the first time since he was eledgedly injured in an air strike to urge his flowers to erupt volcanos of jihad everywhere. and isis wants to introduce its own currency. joining me now is the republican representative from illinois and member of the house foreign affairs committee. congressman adam kensinger. >> general dempsey say that combat troops may be needed. do you think this is a good idea. would you support it? >> if we get to that point i think we would have to. we cannot tolerate the existence

of this group even with this formation with al qaeda. al qaeda left them a year ago because they said isis is too violent for them. i think the destruction of isis is going to take some time. if it gets to a point where combat troops are necessary we can't take that off the table. think about little things like 5,000 or 10,000 american troops to cut off supply lines and isolate areas while the iraqi military can attack them, it's something we shouldn't take off the table. but i support attempts to degrade isis and hope that the peshmerga with the kurds, they have a 1,000 kilometer border with isis. they have a lot to defend. the destruction of isis is the goal here. >> this feels like a big debate that needs to be had in

congress. is congress going to take this up any time soon? >> it will be interesting to see. if we do it will be in the new session. i think there will be a debate ultimately. but i do think the president has the authority to act under the use of force authorizations that exist and the direct threat that isis poses. but i think it would be a healthy debate to have in congress. taken the president comes to congress with an ask and a plan he would find support. >> you think republicans are willing to debate this? the next session? >> i think so. i mean, i haven't polled all the members about. this i think if the president comes to congress i think that will be an important first step and then it will be a debate to have. and it would be good for the american people. they like watching what is going on and finding out what congressi

congressmen and senators and thinking. but the president has to say the destruction of this group is the goal. i got back from iraq two months ago. and the humanity i saw there. i left in '09 adds a military pilot and seeing kids in refugee camps and stuff like that it's a human tragedy that is overwhelming to see. >> does the house have a plan to vote to approve the president's request for nearly $5 billion to support the campaign against isis? the that going to happen? >> it will be interesting to see. i think it will be in the onchl mnibus spending bill. of course our appropriators are going to scrub the request and make sure it is in order. the president will get what he needs from congress to go after isis. the vast majority of members out

here understand and are united behind the fact that this group can't exist any more. >> thanks for your time. >> you bet. thank you. >> joining me now is jonathanen landay. let me start with the union of isis and al qaeda. how surprising -- first of all, how feasible do you think that is? >> well, there's this been kind of cooperation going on in localities in syria for some time. i don't think it's something i'm going to be hugely certain of until i hear it from the head of al qaeda. i'm going to wait for those gentlemen to say we patched up our differences. that hasn't happened. a short tactical alliances, those have been happening and those will continue to happen.

>> let me ask you, you just -- we're talking -- we talk about what -- the conflagrations in the middle east it's one in iraq and one in syria. you just got back from three weeks in iraq. tell us about what you saw there and the efficacy of the coalition efforts on the ground. >> the thing is, it's really uncertain and full of tension. i couldn't get out of baghdad because of the bureaucracy, trying to get permission to leave. but the city itself is tense. it's greatly uncertain. you sit at these check points in long queues of cars waiting to get cleared. and those are the most popular targets for the lammic state. there were two car bombs two from where i was staying. and you look at the cars around you and next to you and you wonder is that one going to blow up while i'm next to it. that's the daily existence that

millions of iraqis have now. certainly the momentum that the islamic state had going for it has slowed. i think air strikes have been a part of that reason. i think that there's a great deal of push back now. there's some offensives going on involving not just what is left of the iraqi army but some of the anbar tribes and tribes in other provinces and shia militias. these are again right now it looks like alliances of convenience. but i think that you know, the islamic state is not look to expand beyond where it is. i think it is going for sunni areas of iraq that it knew it had support and now it's gotten those areas and i think it's looking to consolidate and hold on to what it's got. >> in terms of syria there are

so many questions about assad. that is complicating any progress in the region. do you think we will have clarity on that? >> i think you have heard senior officials saying that this moderate, vetted syrian opposition force it is trying to put together, crane, would also be dedicated to the overthrow of the assad regime. we are a long way from that. air strikes against -- have backfired. there's a lot of popular opposition and it has helped the hard-line islamist groups. fighting the moderates. >> jonathan landay, good to see you. >> adrian grenier talks about the hidden economic value of bumble bees. hes?

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today, fresh off the heels of a landmark climate change agreement with china, the "new york times" is saying that the u.s. will contribute $3 billion to the international climate fund, a reserve to help the poorest economies deal with the affects of a warming climate. a solid majority of the country, 57% thinks climate change is a serious problem. most americans are also increasingly aware of its connection to our economic well being. in a web series called we the economy, adrian grenier explains the hidden economic value of a

healthy and functioning natural world. i sat down with him to discuss the series. >> i love this. and not just because of a bee's invoice. the idea is that nature is at the root of our economy. there is a stat you mention in the piece and that we have, insect pollination from honeybees accounts for 8 to 10% of world agricultural food production. but we never think about it like that. >> absolutely. these bees, these worker bees, the working class of nature need representation. they need -- >> they need a union. >> absolutely. they have nobody speaking for them and we do not account for the value they create for us with. >> one of the things that is the most powerful and timely is that it is talk about environmentism and responsibility in the framework of the economy. for a long time it's been framed

as sort of a moral responsibility which i agree with on some level. but the economics part is a hugely powerful incentive for both sides of the aisle. >> actually currently it is hitting our bottom line. we're going to feel in the our pockets. the fact that we don't account for the damages that business has on the environment is allowing people to put off their costs on to the rest of society and future generations. so they can pretend like they're making a lot of money but they are not accounting for all the negative costs because they go on to the rest of us. >> cheap products, petroleum-based products have a ripple effect. the polluting of streams and the creation of health problems, those -- there are bills associated with all of. that and i think when we conceive of our world and the

products we produce it's really important to understand that it doesn't just begin and end at the cash register. it's part of a real ecosystem and economic ecosystem too. >> if you at home decided to do your spread sheet of what you have coming in and what you're spending and you decided only to take into account what you're making and forget about the costs of things you're going to realize, actually i'm broke. in fact i'm in debt. i think it's a responsible economic policy to start to consider some of the costs to nature. and everything we make, produce, trade, sell, comes from nature. that's our infrastructure. our environmental infrastructure and we need to invest in it for the long term. >> i think the idea this is a series based around, sort of principles of the economy in some ways doesn't sound that sexy, but it is incredibly

important. in terms of our fundamental understanding and the dialogue around basic economic principles it's almost nonexistent and that is a big problem. how is this pitched to you? >> we all take the economy for granted. we think it's just about money. >> right. >> you know, currency. but it's really not. it's a snapshot of everything that we do. all of the exchanges between humans, how -- how we create value for each other, how we share value it's actually quite profound on a human level. that's what i was excited about, how to tell that part of the story, how we can translate it into human terms. >> people are freaked out when they hear the word economy. and i'm scared, what does that mean? and it's important to break it up into bite-sized chapters if you will. >> absolutely. let me give you an analogy. so take the great american

hamburger. and we're talking about bees and all the hard work that they put into our economy. without bees, we would not have the american hamburger. bees are responsible for pollinating, tomatoes, lettuce, the sesames on the buns and a lot of meat would not exist unless it was grass fed. so it would basically just be a bun. >> it should just be a giant bumblebee that is the mcdonald's icon. let me ask you about your involvement. you are involved in so many things, shift.com which is promoting sustainable living, charity water, alter ego, your tv -- >> alter eco. >> it's a pun. >> gc. and my favorite i did not know that, world animal day passed me

by. i just adopted a cat and didn't realize i was supporting it. and you volunteered for international bird rescue. can you tell me what happened with international bird rescue. >> i saw what they were doing to rescue birds that were troubled or sick or caught in ocean plastic. and helped rehabilitate them. and release them back into the wild. it was such a beautiful experience to see what they're doing and to have an opportunity to release some of these birds. >> and watch them fly away. >> it was beautiful. >> where did this come from? >> mommy. my mother. >> she's an awesome woman. >> i grew up in new york in an urban segment. there's not so much -- there's central park. but you know, our connection to nature is limited here. and yet, she was able to teach

me these values about taking responsibility and cleaning up after myself within my own environment and then that sort of bled out into the environment as a whole. >> that's awesome. it's both a honey bee's invoice and mama grenier's invoice. they deserve some props. thank you for your time and for all the things you are doing to make the world a better place. >> thank you. >> think you had a bad day at work? we will introduce you to the workers who put their lives on the line to make a living. that's next. have enough money to live life on your terms? i sure hope so. with healthcare costs, who knows. umm... everyone has retirement questions. so ameriprise created the exclusive confident retirement approach. now you and your ameripise advisor.... can get the real answers you need.

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