politics nation with al sharpton starts now. >> good evening and thanks to you for tuning in. tonight's lead, the republican threat machine goes into hyper drive. president obama speaking at a news conference in asia said he is not backing down from taking executive action to prevent millions from deportation. they failed to give a vote and i indicated to speaker boehner several months ago that if in fact congress failed to act, i would use all the lawful authority i possession to make the system work better. that's going to happen before the end of the year. >> the president is moving forward and driving republicans crazy. speaker boehner is thinking

about expanding his lawsuit to include actions over immigration. the gop shut down talk is getting more explicit with the faction in the house seeking to block the president's decision by shutting down the government for an extended president. we are hearing new impeachment calls on fox news. >> a plague rant assault on the constitution. the law called for certain things. if you suspend it unilaterally, that is an assault on the system. this is clearly illegal. i believe it is an impeachable offense. >> the gop congressman leading the charge. >> do you think this would be an impeachable offense?

>> he was asked that same question and one of the news programs and i have to. >> and a plan keeping millions of immigrant families is to threaten a lawsuit, a government shut down, and impeachment. but the president is not backing down. >> that's going to happen before the end of the year. >> it's going to happen and the republican threats won't stop it. joining me ed rendell. thank you both for joining me. governor, are these republican threats supposed to scare the president or do they really mean it? i think part of the republican party really means it. mitch mcconnell said no government shut down and no

failure to raise the debt limit. he can only control if he can control the senate caucus, he can control the house. they would want to impeach the president and they are crazy. for the purpose of tonight's discussion, i'm not the former governor. i'm the former district attorney. let me tell you why. as district attorney you have the right to decide what cases are prosecuted and which are not. i did that all the time. when i became da i said no more prosecution between two adults. we stopped prosecuting the cases. if the president said i am not deporting anybody anymore, he might be in dereliction of his duty under the constitution. he is not saying that. we will emphasize deportation of criminals out of repeat offenders who come in illegally more than once. that's his prerogative.

he can say to the justice these are the one that i want to emphasize, deportation. these others i don't want to deport. he has the right as a prosecutor to decline prosecution on a category of cases. i hope they do try to impeach the president. i hope they do try to shut down the government. these people can't govern and they are whacked out. >> you are writing about this. are they serious with the impeachment talk and shut down talk? >> i think they are serious. i don't think there is such thing as an empty threat when you are dealing with the republican party. mitch mcconnell can make the promises and doesn't control a faction of his caucus and doesn't control the house. i don't think these are empty threats we can dismiss. the lawsuit is not an empty threat even though it's an empty lawsuit. it strikes me, there is

something that the house and the senate could do right now. speaker boehner could bring it for a vote or get to work on the peace meal immigration reform inside and supersede what the president does. if they take action, they won't. if they take action, he will undo what he has done. they are not doing anything. they are going on and talking about impeachment and government shut down. >> governor, here's what the congressman leading the shut down charge said today. >> everybody was all paranoid and scared about entering into the dooms day scenario with the president and now everything changed. >> you have already addressed your opinion of whether he is breaking the constitution, but he said the wind is to their

back? are they delusional, governor? >> i think they are. the voters, the independent voters and democrats and progressive republicans forgot how delusional they are. this is the republican party. it's the republican party on steroids, but it is the republican party. the faction that the republicans can't control and the dominant faction of the republican party. the voters should understand that. >> some gop lawmakers i might add are speaking out against the shut down talk. listen to this. >> we are not going to have government shutdowns and threats of impeachment. >> absolutely not. there is no time, place, or purpose of a shut down or default. that is ridiculous. >> is this the start of a gop civil war? >> there is going to be. there is an ongoing civil war. ted cruz against mitch mcconnell already.

ted cruz will get allies. cory gardner is not going to be that ally to him. i think they are warring over this already. it strikes me listening to that language, the wind is at our backs. they believe that the wind is at their backs, the american people support this. it's ridiculous. they will overreach. it's inevitable. they are obsessed with this president. they have a budget they want to pass. i don't like it, but they have a lot of work to do. a lot of stuff they can work on. they are tied up in knots and boehner is going along talking about this lawsuit because they can't take their eyes off this president and what he is going to do next. >> what bothers me, governor is at the heart of this issue, there real people that would be torn apart and families will be torn apart by deportation. here's reaction from people in those families to the president's plan. >> at 16, nazareth is a high

school senior taking college courses and wants to engineering. >> my dad said he feels like this is his country. >> isabel doesn't take time for granted with his kids. whether eating dinner or taking them to school, the time could be limited. >> it's very, very happy, happy. >> is this really the fight republicans want to fight where you are dealing with millions of people and families that would be torn apart and not be able to contain their family structure, governor? >> of course not. the republicans talk about family values all the time. this is at the core of keeping families together. the republicans are obviously not concerned about family values in this case. only in some cases. this is the core of their

problem. it's going to be viewed by the average american as something that makes sense. of course if the child is an american citizen, we want the child to be able to stay with his or her families. the president is also going to raise the cap on the number of visas we grant to high tech immigrants who come into the high tech industry. that's something that the chamber and all of the business community wants. are the republicans going to sue about that? i don't think so. >> all right, governor. thank you for your time tonight. have a good weekend. >> you too. >> coming up, explosive new details about the security failures that let an intruder into the white house. we will tell you what one officer accidentally did when she tried to pull out her gun. plus, you gotta see what gop voters are saying about their leaders and working with president obama. also, al roker's al sharpton

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back in september omar gonzalez jumped the fence and ran deep into the white house armed with a knife. he was only tackled because an off duty agent just happened to be there. it all happened minutes after the president and his daughters left on marine one. it outlined numerous mistakes made by agents. one agent who was supposed to be guarding the north lawn with a security guard was instead in his van making personal phone calls. without his earpiece in. another officer who was stationed inside the doors gonzalez entered attempted to draw her baton and accidentally grabbed her flashlight instead. emergency response team members did not immediately enter the mansion because they were

unfamiliar with the lay out of the white house. joining me now is eleanor holmes norton, senior member of the house oversight committee. thank you for being here. >> what's your reaction to the report? >> after the hearings, i was convinced that the secret service needed a thorough review. it never had an investigation. i thought i heard enough to say top to bomb, we need to look at every part of the secret service. >> they have never had an investigation since it was formed. >> never had an investigation. ma may be part of the problem. there must have been the assumption that these are the people who guard the white house and the president, they must be doing something right. that goes to show you must always have thorough

investigation. reverend al, gonzalez appeared at the white house with a hatchet before. they knew him well. they saw him there that night. you would being they would have laser beam and he jumps the fence and it's almost a checklist. the only thing that went right is they brought him down before he got upstairs. the lesson from one night is that if all of these mistakes could be made in one night, we have to assume that the secret service is in need of discipline. it's in need of resources. it lot of its way. now, i say that while remember, i was at this hearing. i have the greatest respect for the men and women of the secret service. i am talking about the structure

and the management of this elite corps. we have got to take a deep dive into it. so the next thing that should happen is the outside investigation starting at ground and going all the way up to see how can we make the secret service? >> joining and respecting their service, what about the secret service men in his van on his cell phone on a personal call with his earphone out of his ear? >> what does it say about supervision and discipline. when you begin to relax an oversight, that's what you get. this job is not interesting most of the time. you are not doing anything most of the time. nobody was minding the store. >> it said there was a series of

secret service blunders the day of the incident including one assumption they had about security. it was emergency response team officers that were surprised that gonzalez was able to get through the bushes prior to that evening and prior to that, they believe they were too thick to be passible. they thought bushes would keep an intruder away from the white house? they thought? >> when you hear things like that, you know that they have not been doing the kinds of inspection of the white house grounds that should come with the territory. how thick were the bushes? all it takes is one fast man and he is that suppose they are going to get into the white

house. where would they have been? i think once this happens, people are on all kinds of alerts. i hope we will understand that we can't let it lie there. we have to find out what went wrong with the organization. how to fix it top to bottom. >> congresswoman, thank you for your time this evening. >> always a pleasure. >> coming up, a new poll on how they would rather beat president obama rather than get something done. and this. >> they sent me instead. >> 3, 2, 1. >> roker thon is over. he set the record. what grade will he get from us.

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>> it's time now for reverend al's weekly report card. >> let's get right to it. earlier this week, bruce springsteen performed a concert for vets, singing the classic song fortunate son. all about issues of class and the draft. but the right wing jumped right on him, calling him tone deaf. then came this. >> bruce springsteen headlines an antiwar sign on veteran's day

in front of our vets. >> nobody had the brains to stop and say you guys might want to pick a different song. >> why couldn't he find a song that was not derogatory to military. >> normally i would flunk them, but they get a d plus for not doing their homework. they don't get the song. i know what you are thinking. why not an f? we are grading on a curve because our next grade is on the news. they made headlines when one of their headlines incorrectly identified president obama's attorney general pick as clinton's whitewater lawyer. that was a different loretta lynch entirely. he gets a big old f for their fat check failed. an easy grade for me tonight. finally, roker-a-thon.

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>> welcome back to obama derangement lotto.

the gop's favorite game. they have three big prizes in their fight with the president over immigration reform. impeachment, of course. a government shut down and a lawsuit. it's cookie. pick three. let's get to it and play derangement lotto. here we go. tonight a pick is impeachment, of course. just what they always wanted. from the obama presidency and every year since. >> it is time to start talking about impeachment. >> that would be an impeachable offense. >> absolutely.

>> these are impeachable offenses. >> this is in direct violation of the oath of office. >> i believe it is impeachable. >> those were from every year president obama has been in office. a big part of the problem is the gop base. a new poll shows 66% of voters think party leaders should stand up to the president. numbers like that are a losing proposition for the gop. do they think they hit the jackpot? >> they may think so, but like a lot of winners, they usually go broke because they don't know

how to handle the money. that's what will happen here. the reality is that you need 67 votes in the senate. that's not going to happen. the reality is that if they can't impeach, they will shut the government down. this is crazy talk and the sad thing is most of the supporters -- let me put it this way. every sound byte you had, not one could tell you what is the impeachable offense? spell it out. you have a president who is lawyered up with all kinds of constitutional lawyers who them they have the right to do this.

>> they say president obama is eager to get to work. mr. obama flexed his muscles on immigration, climate change and the internet. aides said he is energize and they said he is impatient to reclaim the presidential megaphone. >> this is the president obama i love to see. damn all the threats from john boehner and we will fight him and sue him and going to impeach him. he said damn the torpedos straight ahead. this is the president obama the american people want to see. coming out for climate change and making a deal with china on anything is historic. next week we will see a very bold move on the executive order

on immigration. he's going to get things done and not going to sit around waiting for the republicans to get their act together. you know as well as i, republicans don't want to compromise. they don't want government to work and they don't want president obama to succeed at anything. >> big achievements have come from executive orders by presidents in the past. to give you a couple of examples, abraham lincoln signed the emancipation proclamation. the key program on the new deal. truman desegregated the armed forces. could this immigration action fall into that category of big accomplishments? >> it falls right into the emancipation proclamation. this is the civil rights movement for the latino hispanic community. what he is doing is he is giving the future to hispanic young people like you featured in the

show today. s we as african americans and white americans, we as americans should understand exactly what this is all about. he is going to be on the right side of history and if they impeach him, you might as well have impeached eisenhower, reagan -- >> bush, clinton. >> yeah. they all -- and the thing that is frustrating, i almost lose my train of thought. this is so crazy. you can't even logically figure it out. >> it's not logical. you are not losing anything. let me go to you, bill, on this. a top congressman is already linking president obama's action on immigration to the loretta lynch confirmation hearings to the attorney general. >> we have the senate. advice and consent specifically

with this new attorney general ask u.s. attorney lynch, what are the limits of discretion? what laws does he have to enforce? >> they don't have anything on her credentials and qualifications. they will try to link her into the debate and have a debate on the immigration executive action if it were to come. >> president obama is a lot smarter than trey will ever be. he has smeart lawyers around him. they know what they are doing on the immigration thing. they are on solid ground and god knows president obama has given john boehner and mich mcconnell enough time on immigration. he is not going to wait around anymore and give them more time. linking this to loretta lynch. these republicans don't get it. she is one of the most qualified

people to ever be attorney general and they want to make it a political football. i think it will backfire on them. >> thank you for your time tonight. have a great weekend both of you. >> thank you. >> coming up, what does the gop base really want from john boehner and mitch mcconnell? also, did you hear what former president bush said about president obama? and the navy s.e.a.l. who said he killed bin laden defends his decision to go public. it's all ahead in conversation nation. denver international is one of the busiest airports in the country. we operate just like a city, and that takes a lot of energy. we use natural gas throughout the airport - for heating the entire terminal, generating electricity on-site, and fueling hundreds of vehicles. we're very focused on reducing our environmental impact. and natural gas is a big part of that commitment.

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we are back with conversation nation. joining us tonight, huff post live. democratic strategist and jimmy williams and the grio. please put that up again. 6% of republicans would rather stop president obama than compromise. 2/3 want to stop president obama. that's a problem. does this stop the illusion that it changed? >> same as it ever was. the deal is the first day that barack obama became president of the united states it sat in the capital funded by taxpayer

dollars and we will defeat this guy. they lot of. what happened? here we are again. mitch mcconnell who will be the majority leader. john boehner will be the speaker. the number one goal is to stop his presidency at every turn. if anybody thinks there is anything beyond that, this is a singular vision. nothing more and nothing less. they don't like him and want him to be president. they failed so they will destroy his credibility and legacy. i'm sorry to say that. i like a lot of republicans, but that is their focus. >> i think what the polls are showing is that it's a republican base. they have the consilliation. if anything -- >> if they did, they department win. >> it shows yu republicans are

afraid of the base and why they don't have that much respect for theirs. >> elected republicans need to grow up and take responsibility for the fact that they are in elected office and have a responsibility to work with the president to govern the country. you can no longer be in charge of the house and not in charge of the senate and say we are not in charge and we can't pass bills and we will muck up the system. they have to take responsibility of governing. they ever trying to block everything and blame the president for the dysfunction in congress. >> does this affect independence and turn them off? >> both parties are losing people. both parties are left and right. most are identifying with our party. we have more than the republicans we have left. >> it's almost as if the

american people and 37% showed up in the last election, that tells you everything you need to know. you ask if they want to do something with obama. what is the boogie man? >> that's why they don't come out to vote. >> let me go to the next hot topic here, the debate. on the agenda next week. he revealed himself this week. but former seals are furious he broke cold for speaking publicly. he had been saying he needs to be prosecuted. o'neal responded to that this morning on the today show. i hope they don't think i did

the wrong thing and i'm doing it for the right reasons. the reason is this platform helping 9/11 families and helping vets. >> he's an american hero, but should he be punished? >> certainly the people that make sure that the confidential information didn't get out to the public and they should be punished under the military law. i don't think personally that he should be punished. i'm surprised it took us this long for us to know who shot the kill shot. >> thank you for doing what you did. do me a favor. shut the hell up. it's that simple. he is a part of a sacred elite team. i went to the citadel which is a military college. there elite parts of the citadel that never talk about anything that they do. i was not part of them, but i can tell you this. i would never betray that trust. i thank him for what he did.

i wish he would shut up about it. this idea of helping the noin-11 families, the minute that osama bin laden was killed, they had peace. i assume they had peace. let's be done with it. >> we see generals and other military leaders writing books and making money. why not see it? >> we see such a double standard and those with the officials who are not punished for speaking out and i'm not surprised with the e thos. you have movies and video games that glorify being a part of the seal. i'm not surprised that someone wants to capitalize on that. >> you already had the movie. >> look at people like stanley. he spoke out and he didn't think he was, but he did. he got fired. and so i expect our military leaders to do what they are supposed to do. i want them to go away gracefully. >> he got fired because he was

speaking ill of the commander in chief. >> this seal has not done that. >> his colleagues and his teammates and seal mates and the majority of his comrades have a problem, i would suggest there is a problem. >> even making money and in you being punished. you might say that it's distasteful. you disagree. i wouldn't do it. punishing? >> i don't believe we should punish him, no. >> he shouldn't be punished. >> enough with the punishment. too much punishment. >> he is telling the american people something i think we need to know. >> everyone please stay with me. george w. bush on president obama. it's a surprise. and is this art imitating life? the metropolitan museum of art

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>> we have our panel. let's talk about former president george w. bush and why i think he should be commended. the former president is on a big media tour promoting his new book about his father. since he left office, he has refused to criticize president obama. last night he was asked why. here was his response.

>> i don't think it's good for the country to have a former president undermine a current president. it's bad for the presidency for that matter. >> your reaction? surprised some. >> i was surprised, but my first reaction was i wish he told dick cheney did who has been undermining the president by criticizing him unfairly from the beginning. yes, i agree that it does undermine the office of the presidency. it would have been nice if he came out when they were questioning his birth certificate at that moment. maybe then he could have said this and we wouldn't have had years of nonsense. >> i have to concur with that. dick cheney is the gift that keeps on giving to us. except for the crazy crazies, they are offended by what he is doing. by the way, dana, we can go down the line. there is a litany and a cad reof

former staffer who is want to beat the hell out of the guy sitting in the white house. i want to think forward. the question becomes whoever the next president is, i hope it's hillary clinton. i hope barack obama does something remarkably interesting like george bush. fade off and become very statesman-like. >> he has stayed above the fray. >> he has. it's interesting because if anyone i think has the right to criticize a criticism, someone who has been in the position before. >> maybe president bush has a little bit of awareness that dick cheney does not. if he starts pointing the finger and criticizing it, the obama administration people point out that he is the that started it. >> there is also the point that his father lot of to the guy that he came after.

that goes a long way. >> we will see how far it goes with jeb against hillary. finally, breaking the internet. her cover seen around the world has the world talking and tweeting all week. now the metropolitan museum of art is getting in on the fun. the museum tweeting here at the met, we have artworks that can break the internet too. you see this photo of this ancient statue. can you see a resemblance? you be the judge. okay, panel, what do you think of this? is this art imitating life. >> everywhere wants to capitalize on what they have done well. create a moment in which the media is all focussed on what they are doing whether it's taking naked pictures or walking

around which is the majority of the pictures i see. certainly i want to know more about her business strategy. i'm growing tired of just seeing her naked all the time, not that there is anything wrong with it, i want to hear her talk more. hear her thoughts on things. >> a lot of people take naked pictures and have it be on magazine spreads. i'm sure kim kardashian is doing something right. how many people are going to view these days? >> this is the elite ultra and they are imitating kardashian. >> i would suggest they are doing something beyond the kardashians. i would suggest they are going back -- i watched the monuments men and the movie about how they got back all the artwork that hitler had taken and madonna was one of the big things. her breasts are exposed. i'm thinking to myself, michael

angelo and da vinci and all these great artists. these were all naked. they have done this and stuck in the middle, we have that. >> you suggesting that kim is historical hart? >> no, hysterical art. she is imitating nothing in life. >> he doesn't take himself too seriously. they were trying to attract more people. >> the next time i'm here, i'm going to the met. >> how much art is based on the human body. >> we picked up a lot more people liking them on twitter. thank you for your time. have a great weekend. >> thank you. >> we will be back with a big moment for the affordable care act. getting in a groove. growth is gratifying. goal is to grow. gotta get greater growth. i just talked to ups. they got expert advise, special discounts, new technologies. like smart pick ups.

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plotting a new attack plan for obamacare. they are just itching to investigate everything they can about a law they hate. some gop leaders are openly debating whether it's even a good thing to help low income americans get health care. >> why is more people on medicate a good thing? i would rather find a way for able bodied adults, find a way to get them into the workforce to transition them from government dependence to independence. that's a much better approach not just as a conservative, but as an american. more people live the american dream if they are not depend ept on the government. >> no health care is the mesh dream? living in fear of getting sick without insurance? that's not right. in fact it's sick. earlier this week, we had a guest share his personal account of how obamacare saved his life and how he hates to see lawmakers attack the political

gain. >> it really saddens me because obviously we are the -- what happened to the moral compass in this country. we need to be concerned about people and their lives. and that's not happening. it doesn't seem to be important. >> what areship important is giving people peace of mind. tomorrow kicks off the second enrollment president for obamacare. another chance to get covered under the law. go to healthcare.gov for more information. it is white house expects 9 to 10 million to be enrolled. it is what makes america work. when we give a chance, an opportunity for everyone. they are not beggers or people trying to bet the system. some of them hardworking people

that just need a way to take care of the health insurance for their families. to be a patriot you can't just love the country, we have to love the people in the country. thanks for watching. i'm al sharpton. have a great weekend. "hardball" starts right now. >> eyeball to eyeball. let's play "hardball." good evening from washington. estate where american government is supposed to function and the laws are to be written or instructions are to be given on enforcement accident but all the evidence shows we are heading towards a moment in american history when a policy on which noncitizens are permed to live and work in the country is about to effectively be set by the president of the united states.