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isis shows peter kasik has been killed. the propaganda video not yet verified by nbc news shows a masked militant standing over who he claims to be the 26-year-old captured by isis over a year ago while delivering humanitarian supplies in syria. while in captivity, he converted to islam and changed his name. today his parents are asking for privacy. they've released a statement that reads in part, quote, the family respectfully asks that the news media avoid playing into the hostage takers hands and refrain from publishing or broadcasting photographs or video distributed by the hos ta hostage takers. the national security council has issued a statement saying it is aware of the video and working quickly to verify the authenticity. if confirmed, kassig would be the fifth western hostage

murdered by isis in similar brutal videos. joining me now, who knew peter kassig. first of all, let's talk about peter, your friend and the last time you saw him. >> well, we had a chance to see him just before he went into syria. this was in september of about 2013. there's a lot of talk about the u.s. getting militarily involved in syria. and peter was there, part of the organization he created to try to get -- try and get relief, medical supplies, food and all kinds of other basic supplies the syrian refugees. he'd done that trip a few times. and for some of us journalists that spent that afternoon with him. we expressed a little concern he was going back. he certainly seemed an individual with a purpose and a mission and he was not going to be deterred by trying to help people that he really had been committed to over the course of the previous two years. >> and he was aware of the safety concerns and security. he had things in place, did he not? >> he did. >> as all of you must, by the

way. >> and he relied on a network of activists he'd become very close with. the circumstances of how he was kidnapped are still not clear to be quite honest with you. we know where he was trying to go and what he was trying to do at the time. he was an individual who served in the u.s. military, and that, for us was a point of concern. that was certainly going to be a problematic issue. i think in the last two years of his life, he'd become so committed to trying to help refugees, it gave him a sense of purpose and drive in terms of what he was doing and that was the ultimate goal. >> you've seen the video, what do you take away from it? >> it is a disturbing video and you put into context not only what happened to peter, but also several other beheadings on the tape. the message being delivered in it, i think is one very disturbing. on the big picture, on the macro level, it shows isis as a group is operational. doing the barbaric things, they've been doing for several weeks and months. and very much an organization that seems to, at least, from this video not being deterred by

the u.s. and coalition air strikes taking place on the ground. >> let's talk about the militant who appears in the video. sounding similar, you know, appearance. you don't see faces, obviously. it looks like jihadi john. last night, unconfirmed reports came in saying he was wounded in an air strike. is there any indication there's a connection to the timing of the release of this video? would that be put out there to try to refute those claims or murky the waters. >> as an individual, he hasn't come out to play a substantial role in the organization. not, for example, the leader of the group who put out a statement because of the accounts he'd been wounded or killed. this individual has kept his anonymity, who has appeared in these videotapes. i'm sure intelligence agencies around the world are combing through the video looking for similar clues. there are issues about whether or not he used his left hand in

some of these acts. they're trying to identify things, voice recognition patterns, things like that, eye recognition. i'm sure there will be at some point some intel about whether or not this is the same individual. keep in mind that, unfortunately, peter first appeared in the video of a killing of another hostage several weeks ago and they announced he would be given 48 hours. peter was not killed at the time. so it has led some people to suggest there was perhaps an attempt to secure his release that may not have worked. but it went well beyond the 48-hour period that isis said they were going to give peter kassig before we saw what we saw today, sadly. >> okay. thank you so much for being here. let's go now to the day's top political headlines. the imminent executive order. republicans not backing down in their opposition. >> 94% of those who voted in last week's election opposed the president taking this kind of

unilateral executive action. and i think even if he doesn't respect elections, he at least needs to respect the rule of law. ours is not a government of one and he doesn't have the legislative power. >> but democrats sit behind the president talking about the need for him to act. >> republicans can't have it both ways. for over a year and a half, we have left on their table in the house of representatives a bipartisan immigration reform bill to address our broken immigration system. they refuse to call the bill or any aspect relating to the bill. and now they say to the president, we don't want you to lift a finger to solve the problem. this president is not going to go gently into his last two years. he's going to leod -- >> joining me now from the white house, political correspondent casey hunt. and good day to you. obviously this is a divisive issue. where does the white house stand in announcing that order? >> well, at this point, alex, we're expecting that the white house may announce an order like

this as early as this coming week. the president is on his way back to the united states after his trip through asia. and aides say that's when he'll start to consider how to go forward on this. you know, i have to tell you, alex, as i talk to republicans on the hill and also to on the other side immigration advocates, they're having completely separate conversations. expecting this to happen. they're concerned that the president may not go far enough. he may not legalize enough categories of people to make sort of that side of the aisle happy with what happens. republicans are talking about how this would poison the well, show out of the gate the president's not willing to work with them, not interested in doing deals with congress. that disconnect is so stark. i think it's pretty combustible and could potentially, you know, set the tone for really confrontational new congress come january. >> what's the reaction you're hearing when you talk to the sources on the hill about a threat of a government shutdown?

>> reporter: so republicans at this stage, mitch mcconnell said immediately, we're not going to do this, but as this executive order becomes more of a real thing and the president has said his timing of announcing such an order isn't going to depend on the government shutdown threat, or excuse me, the looming deadline for funding the. go, which is december 11th. that suggests he might put this order out before congress is able to pass a spending bill. there are republicans, particularly on the right wing, senator ted cruz, mike leach, who are talking about including in that spending bill a measure that would strip funding for this executive order. and that's the kind of thing that could potentially set up a serious clash and a potential for a shutdown. >> okay. but have republicans proposed any sort of viable alternate plan on immigration? any reason to believe they would if the president gives them time? >> so, excuse me, republicans are arguing, hey, you know, we need some time to potentially put this forward. you heard john boehner say this

is the time to act on immigration. but democrats say, hey, you know, there have been years here, basically, where the republicans have had to put the senate comprehensive immigration bill on the house floor and pass it. the argument is that if speaker boehner were to put that arctic on the floor, it would go through. i think you're starting to see also some centrist democrats kind of balk at this idea. and you do have a contingent of republicans who are saying, hey, you know, if you give us a chance, we will act. senator john mccain is one of those people. even marco rubio. but sources i talk to say that would have to start in the house of representatives and house speaker boehner hasn't had luck getting them to kick start something like that. >> yeah. well, it's going to be trouble. let's put it that way. thank you very much from the white house. >> thanks, alex. four employees are dead. one hospitalized after an early

morning chemical leak at a plant. the valve on a container failed releasing fumes into the air. the chemical is used to create -- in serious condition where he's being treated. 44-year-old doctor arrived in omaha yesterday. he's the third patient to be treated at the nebraska medical center. the other two have made successful recoveries. turn your kids away from the set for the next story because santa claus is being more naughty than nice this year. surveillance video from melbourne, australia showing st. nick ripping off a post office. they put out a news release saying they ho ho hope they catch him. let's go to the weather with snow and bitter temperatures, freezing out much of the country. here you're looking at scenes

from the twin cities where the weather is creating clearly hazardous traffic conditions on the roadways. and the weather channel's mike seidel has more from kansas city where the low temps are expected to dip into the teens. mike? >> good afternoon, alex. from a frigid stadium here in kansas city just ahead of the chiefs/seahawks football game. our temperature has plummeted this morning. a sign that the second batch is moving through this part of the midwest. we've fallen from 29 down to 16 degrees, and the windchill is now 2. they've already set a record here. today is the fifth day in a row of subfreezing cold in november. that's the longest stretch on record. records go back 127 years. tomorrow's forecasted high at 21 and set a record low maximum. and this air mass is colder than the predecessor. so for those of you back on the east coast, down south, we'll see a lot of record lows. along that boundary, snow is setting up. we've got a winter storm warning for cincinnati tonight and tomorrow morning, 3 to 5 inches

of snow. in fact, i counted this morning, all or parts of 24 states have winter weather advisories for at least several inches of snow. from new mexico, up to montana, and all if way back through the ohio valley. so get set for plummeting temperatures. before the cold air gets in on monday, from atlanta to philly to new york and boston, it'll be rain and not snow. once the rain moves out, that cold northwest wind will blow in some very, very cold air. as far as the warm-up, we're looking into next weekend, the weekend before thanksgiving where we start to get out of this deep freeze. this unrelenting call that we've seen over the past week. alex, back to you. >> thank you, mike. president obama's on his way home from australia after the g-20 summit. the domestic flight he's likely coming home to, that's just ahead. and later, the story behind the video that's attracted more than 4 million views on youtube. why not everything may be as it

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president obama's touting his trip to the asia pacific region as a strong week for american leadership. but when he returns later tonight, big confrontation with republicans could be on the horizon. kristen welker with the latest from australia. hi, kristen. >> reporter: president obama is heading home right now after a week long trip aimed at strengthening ties with the asia pacific region. and when he arrives back in washington, he's preparing for a fight with republicans. during the g-20 summit, he said he wouldn't let threats of a government shutdown deter him from acting alone and without congress on the nation's immigration system. and he challenged republicans. >> on immigration reform, it

continues to be my great preference to see congress pass comprehensive legislation because that is not reversed by a future president. it would have to be reversed by a future congress. there is a very simple solution to this perception that somehow i'm exercising too much executive authority. pass a bill i can sign on this issue. >> and president obama suggested that he was opposed to the pipeline, but today, he wouldn't say whether he would veto legislation to approve the project. republicans are moving the bill through congress now that will likely wind up on his desk. president obama also had a stern warning that russia will continue to remain isolated if president putin continues his incursions into ukraine. he described the conversations with putin this week as business

like and blunt. and the sanctions already in place are, quote, plenty good. but suggested more could be coming. alex, back to you. >> all right. kristen welker, thank you. the president has a challenging week ahead of him as the senate on tuesday is expected to vote on approval of the keystone pipeline. the president in a news conference this morning expressed his displeasure over congressional moves on the pipeline. i won't hide my opinion about this, which is that one major determinant of whether we should approve a pipeline shipping canadian oil to world markets, not to the united states, is -- does it contribute? to the greenhouse gases that are causing climate change? >> let's bring in hawaii democrat, and senator, welcome. i'm going to congratulate you on winning the first election in the senate. you were appointed two years

ago. congratulations, must be a big thrill for you. >> thanks very much, alex. good to be here. >> good. good. let's talk about you as a member there as the energy and natural resources committee. do you think it poses an environmental threat? >> it does. in north america, and more than that. it really is doubling down on our commitment to fossil fuels. this is not to bring energy to america. but rather to bring energy through the united states and to export to world markets. and so, i think it's going in the wrong direction. very likely that even if we don't pass legislation in the coming week that it's very likely that the new congress is going to move forward with keystone. but on the other hand, we had a really good couple of weeks when it comes to climate action. the president signed an historic agreement on greenhouse gases. this is first real commitment that china has hemade in a long

time. i want those watchers who care very much about this issue to not lose hope. keystone's important. but the most important thing that's happening this month on climate is that china has finally stepped up to the plate and they're going to work with the united states to try to solve climate change. >> however, if the senate passes the pipeline approval, as the house did on friday. how likely is it that the president will veto that measure? >> well, i don't know, i think he should veto it. i think for a couple of reasons. first, i think on the substance, it's not the right way to go. i think the other part of this is they are still going through a process to make a determination. this is normally something that the executive branch would handle themselves. but the legislative branch because they're so committed to keystone, the republicans in congress are so committed to keystone, they're really trying to override what would otherwise be done as an executive branch process. and so this is not the right way to go. we've got a defense bill to

pass. we've got appropriations measures to focus on. i'd love to pass immigration in this congress. if they're serious about legislating, i don't think keystone makes it even to the top ten. that should be considered in the remaining weeks. >> look, i don't have to tell you that issues are always coupled with politics. and when it comes to the bill right now, it does have democratic support. mary landrieu. and here's what south dakota republican said on fox news this morning. let's listen to that. >> this is a cynical attempt to save a senate seat in louisiana. this is a -- an issue, a no-brainer in the eyes of the american public, which finally, finally is coming to the floor of the united states senate, not because they're worried about american jobs, but because they're worried about a job of a senator from louisiana. >> any truth to that? that this is all about senator landrieu and securing her position in the next senate? >> well, i couldn't have any more respect for mary landrieu

than i do, but she sure is a powerful advocate for the oil and gas industry. although that's a testament to how powerful a senator she is, she's getting her vote. i wish, frankly, on tuesday we weren't taking up this measure. i think we ought to be working on a revenue neutral carbon legislation so we can take care and take control of our energy future. i think there's no doubt that mary got her way. it's not the way i wanted us to go. but i think it also shows she's a pretty influential senator. >> the second enrollment period in the affordable care act began yesterday. about 7 million or so signed up last year, and the department of health and human services predicts that 9.1 million people will be insured through next year. which means only, what, another 4 million people or so will sign up. is that enough to keep the program funded? >> oh, i think from risk pool standpoint, the program is going to work. we avoided the death spiral that

was feared. and i think that healthcare.gov is rolling out better than last year. and it's rolling out relatively smoothly. remember that millions and millions of people are getting health care that wouldn't have otherwise without the affordable care act. and so no news is good news from the standpoint of the republicans being able to point out to a non -- point to a nonfunctional website. this law is beginning to work. i think we ought to make changes to it over time as we've done with prescription medication reform, with medicare and medicaid. with any major legislation. you've got to iterate it, make changes to it. and even some of the republicans are understanding, this is the law of the land. it's going to stick people like what it is doing for their individual lives. they may not like the brand obamacare, but they sure like what it's doing for them. >> yeah. how nice of you to not call me out for not being a math major. okay.

anyways, let's go to the "new york times" which reported on friday that many americans with health insurance bought under the affordable care act could face increases next year. as in some cases as much as 20% unless they switch their plans. so is the white house facing any sort of a credibility gap over health care? >> well, i think the challenge with the affordable care act is this, the price of health care has been going up so precipitously. and the overall health care system was so broken that the challenge is that anything having to do with any individual's health care situation can be blamed on the affordable care act. and so prices go up, unfortunately, in health care. and people get mistreated in the health care system. and what the republicans who oppose the affordable care act have been able to do is to point out to individual anecdotes of people not getting treated well within the system and say this is now the fault of the affordable care act. premiums are going to go up. and they're going to have to be

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welcome back to "weekends with alex witt." it's a video that attracted more than 4 million views on a youtube page. a boy racing to save a young syrian girl while being shot at in the middle of a conflict zone. but things aren't always what they seem.

keir simmons has the story. >> it seemed incredible. god is great, witnesses cry out as a heroic syrian boy ambushed by gunfire manages to rescue a little girl. the video garnered attention all around the world and captured millions of youtube viewers. but now, controversy, the group of norwegian film makers say none of it is real. the film's director talking yesterd yesterday. he said we made a story where many things will go wrong but ends well, and that's why people are engaged in it. after more than three years of conflict, at least 1.6 million syrian children and refugees, their schools and homes destroyed or occupied. these behind the scenes images of the productions shot this past summer showing the careful choreography of the cast and

crew. may be reminiscent of some hoaxes, balloon boys, the baby-snatching eagle. and the twerk seen around the world. this time, it's backed by a cause to generate dialogue about children in conflict zones. keir simmons, nbc news, london. president obama this morning before leaving the g-20 summit in australia spoke to reporters about the importance of the landmark agreement with china on climate change. >> the ambitious new goal i announced in beijing will double the pace at which america reduces its carbon pollution while growing our economy and creating jobs, strengthening our energy security, and putting us on a path to a low carbon future. >> climate and energy reporter at the "new york times." good to see you. thanks for joining me. >> hi, alex, great to be with you. >> this agreement with china.

is it going to be as critical as the president claims. >> this is a really big deal. this is the first time china has ever committed to any -- on the international stage to any kind of carbon reduction cut. china is the world's largest carbon polluter. and really, the relationship between u.s. and china has always been the thing that has stood in the way of global action on climate change. the rest of the world has said if the two biggest submitters aren't going to act, why should we? the u.s. and china have been locked in this game of chicken of who is going to act first. so seeing them come and make a joint announcement changes the game on this. it remains to be seen if it's going to have the effect they hope for, which is leading to commitments and deals by the rest of the world, as well. >> okay. the president's saying yesterday that the u.s. will contribute $3 billion to an international fund to help poor nations fight climate change. how is that going to work?

>> so in 2009, alex, hillary clinton then secretary of state made an announcement at a big global climate change summit in denmark that by 2020, the u.s. would help mobilize $100 billion from rich countries to poor countries to help them adapt to the impacts of climate change. we're just starting to see that money getting going. the hope is by this year, there will be a fund of about $10 billion from rich countries to poor countries. the u.s., president obama saying that the u.s. will put in $3 billion, that's almost a third of that fund. that's significant, it's symb symbolic. it shows u.s. leadership and commitment. the really hard part, though, is going to be escalating that, getting up to you know, rich countries putting in $100 billion by 2020. i think that's the much more difficult hurdle. >> okay. and from a political perspective. you write in the paper that the

two announcements highlight the intention to use the administration to push forward on climate change policy which he sees as a corner stone of his legacy. given the make-up of the new congress, how difficult do you think it's going to be for the president to achieve that goal? >> well, the president has focused on this since his re-election. one reason he thinks he can build a climate change legacy is he's been able to use his executive authority without congress to push forward on a lot of these climate change initiatives. we've seen him push forward at home on aggressive e.p.a. regulations, republicans have criticized that as the war on coal. they've been able to push forward on those. we will see reductions in u.s. emissions as a result of those regulations. and the second piece of that is, you know, those regulations aren't meaningful in the global context unless there's some kind of global deal.

next year in paris, there's going to be a u.n. summit on climate change. president obama hopes that he can broker an international deal working with china in order to get -- in order to get significant progress on climate change. there'll be a lot of pushback from congress. this is an area where the president can move at home with executive authority, internationally without going to congress and asking them to pass the bill. it'll be difficult. i think he'll get a lot of political pushback. but it is possible for him to do this. >> i'm curious, before i let you go. how much of progress on climate change is challenged by naysayers who really believe this planet still isn't in trouble. that we have some scientists they a there's no definitive word. this is a result of climate change and that is. how much does that still exist? >> it exists a lot more in congress than it does in the

voting population. the u.s. >> yeah. >> polls consistently show that a majority of the u.s. population ranging from 56%, 57%, depending on which poll you look at believes that climate change is happening, accept the science that it's caused by human activities. we see a lot more of that. that is -- that is a view that's consistently held by the american public. we see in congress, elected officials who are, you know, very firm on the idea that's not the case. the senator, the republican senator from oklahoma is about to take the gavel and become chairman of the senate environment committee. he absolutely says that climate change is -- it's a hoax, it's not happening. he wrote a book about this. he's very firm on it. but that view, you know, that

view is the minority within the american public especially among voters under 35 who eventually are going to be voters over 35. i think eventually we'll see, you know, congress and washington catching up to the views of the voters. but that may take a few more years. >> okay. thank you. comprehensive answer to that. i appreciate it. ferguson, missouri, today, the city in waiting. investigating the shooting death of michael brown could reach a decision on whether to indict the officer any time now. activists are making preparations in case demonstrations follow the grand jury's ruling. the family is hoping any response is nonviolent. let's take a listen. >> we want everybody to be peaceful and nonviolent as dr. martin luther king said, in times of adversity, we must always remain disciplined and dignified. >> let's bring in tremain lee.

it didn't happen yesterday, uh which means we're one day closer. what's the mood there like? >> reporter: that's right. every day we're one step closer. for the last few days, i've been talking with elected officials, protesters, law enforcement officials. and everyone is anxious and tired. this kind of waiting game is playing psychological warfare. many people have been here for -- today marks the 100th day. protesters and everyone have braced themselves for this. it's a relatively quiet day today. but, again, every step, every day without an indictment ramps up this anxiety. it's still kind of focused in the holding pattern here. >> you talk with police chief jackson yesterday about what would happen after the grand jury announces a decision. what did he tell you? >> earlier in the day yesterday, there were reports from a local news station that quoted chief jackson saying if -- officer darren wilson is not indicted,

he would immediately return as an officer with the ferguson police department. he refuted that. he said he was misquoted and words taken out of context. he said, first, if he's not indicted legally, he does have his job. but if he isn't indicted and comes back to the department, he would have to go in the review of an internal investigation, which could find cause for him to be fired, or not. and he said, again, legally speaking, if darren wilson is not indicted, he has his job, but there's a process here. there are no guarantees one way or the other. >> any reaction to the chief's comments? >> again, folks have been tired, they're anxious, the comments added to this kind of swirl of speculation and rumor. while clearly it ruffled feathers, everyone is ready to get on to the business of this indictment or not indictment and then move forward. >> okay. thank you so much from ferguson. for the first time, we're hearing reaction from the bill cosby camp after an old allegation resurfaces.

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one marijuana grower is riding high after selling the mother load of his crop in an unusual style. he put about quarter of a ton of marijuana on the auction block in washington state. he got a different kind of green in a big way. halle jackson has more on this ground breaking sale. >> reporter: in washington wine country, the weekend's big seller isn't pinot, it's purple cush. >> i'm hoping to make $1 million. >> he cultivates cannabis, legally growing marijuana on his property several hours outside of seattle. >> we love this job. it's a dream job. >> he decided to cash in on his crop. >> 545, 550. >> hosting the first legal pot auction, believed to be the

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i am tired of the politics of let's just say everything's wrong with the president. let's say everything's wrong with washington. we need a policy partner here to compromise and find consensus. >> that was missouri democrat claire mccaskill, what she sees as the political blame game being played by her republican colleagues. meanwhile, it's a waiting game over when president obama will issue his executive order. work permits to people in the country illegally whose children are american citizens or legal permanent residents if the parents have lived here for at least five years. as many of 3.3 million immigrants could be eligible,

end quote. joining me now, the "new york times" report ashley parker, with a welcome to you, ashley. what are you hearing about the time line of the president's decision? >> well, we're hearing exactly what you said. it could come as soon as this week and likely probably thursday or friday. so the end of this week would be the earliest he'd act on it. >> okay. so if this is what the president is planning on announcing, how will that play with immigration activists? >> well, immigration activists have been waiting for this for the entire past congress and year. and they feel a bit impatient. they're cautiously optimistic, ready to be excited. but also told me, we've waitered this long, the president has to go big and bold. and not just because they believe it's the sort of humanitarian correct thing to do, but also it will help them go out in the country and sell his plan. there's going to be a huge outcry from the right. if the president, say, doesn't allow them to stay in the

country. >> is this big enough, bold enough for what the immigration advocates want? >> from what we're hearing from them, from what the president is thinking about doing, yeah, absolutely. if he allows 5 million people to stay in the country and work legally without threat of deportation, they'll be very happy, yeah. >> okay. getting to the next part here. some republicans have certainly talked about shutting the government down if the president acts on immigration reform alone. other republicans are down playing that option. here's what former republican nominee for president mitt romney said this morning on cbs. >> i think there have to be more productive ways for us to impress on the president the need to work on a permanent solution as opposed to a temporary stopgap solution. >> is the split in the gop about what strategy to use? >> yeah, there's absolutely a split. i mean, the day after senator mitch mcconnell who is going to be the new senate majority

leader won reelection, he basically -- he was still in kentucky said we are not going to shut down the government. we need to show the american people we can govern. and less than a week later, house speaker john boehner left the option on the table and a lot of conservative members are talking about, well, we shouldn't rule anything out. the shutdown, we don't want it, but it's a possible option. and then -- >> what's the likelihood, though, that this more extreme element could win? >> you know, it's a tough call. because republicans know that shutting down the government would just be horrible for their brand, no one wants that, not even the most extreme members of the republican party. but, again, we saw this last congress that you can sort of -- they can escalate and get everyone whipped into a frenzy and then it becomes hard to back down. >> yeah. >> bill clinton weighed into the discussion yesterday saying that president obama's decision to delay the order may have had a role in the big losses democrats suffered on election day. listen to part of that.

>> we had a little bit of a loss of the hispanic vote. perhaps because the president didn't issue then the immigration order. but it was a tough call for him because had he done so, a lot of the others would've lost even more. >> you think that's a sentiment being felt by many top democrats that a lot of hispanics were apathetic and didn't come out to vote? >> it's a tricky situation for them as president clinton said. obviously, they didn't do as well with hispanics as they would have hoped. they didn't make it resemble a presidential election year electorate. by the same token, the reason the president didn't do anything was a political calculation that as much as it might have helped with hispanic voters and constituencies, it could have killed some of these vulnerable democrats who were running in red states. >> do you get a sense of the republican calculation on the hispanic vote if there's not some sort of immigration legislation passed. >> yeah. republicans, leaders in the party in the national party understand that going into 2016,

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hello, everyone, welcome to "weekends with alex witt," we're approaching 1:00 p.m. on the east coast. here's what's happening right now. this breaking news to report today. a video posted online by isis claims to show that captured american aid worker peter kassig has been killed. news analysts have confirmed that the video is, indeed, from isis, but there's no official confirmation yet on his death. he was captured by isis over a year ago while delivering humanitarian supplies in syria. richard engel joining me now with the details. richard? >> isis, it appears has murdered yet another american hostage. this time, peter kassig, a 26 yeefld american, a former soldier who changed his life and one year ago decided to go into syria to help refugee families

to provide medical relief. he was kidnapped by isis. they had threatened to kill him like so many other western hostages. he'll be the fifth hostage to have been killed. if confirmed, however, we've seen this video, there is a video claim of responsibility. it is very graphic. it looks very similar to other beheading videos, other videos by isis. similar language, similar propaganda, and the familiar character dressed in black in a ski mask, claiming this time peter kassig had been beheaded. still, no confirmation from government officials, u.s. government officials. the family has issued a statement saying that they are aware of this report, they are aware of this claim. but that they, too, are awaiting final confirmation. peter kassig while in captivity changed his name and even though he converted to islam and there had been calls for muslim leaders to spare his life, if this video is to be believed,

those calls went unheeded. well, president obama was briefed on the beheaded on air force one by susan rice. the president is on his way home from the g-20 summit. nbc white house correspondent kristen welker with the latest from brisbane, australia. >> reporter: news came an hour after president obama had left brisbane. he was here attending the g-20 economic summit. his national security team released what is becoming an all too familiar statement. reading in part, quote, we are aware of a video that claims to show the murder of u.s. citizen peter kassig by isil, also known as isis. the intelligence community is working as quickly as possible to determine its authenticity. if confirmed, we are appalled by the brutal murder of an innocent american aid worker. and we express our deepest condolences to his family and friends. united states started targeting isis in iraq this summer after the first american james foley

was beheaded. a month later, the u.s. launched air strikes in syria. during a press conference earlier today, mr. obama said his administration holds weekly meetings about isis continuing to learn about the group's weaknesses and to assess u.s. policy. and in an earlier statement, president obama said it's too early to know if the u.s. is winning the war against isis. he's expected to land late this evening. back to you. >> all right. thank you. before president obama left australia, he hit on a number of topics. >> chairman dempsey has consistently said in all his testimony and i would expect him to always do this. to give me his best military advice. and to not be constrained by politics. and he has not advised me that i should be sending u.s. troops to fight. >> with an executive order on

immigration imminent, perhaps as early as late this week, the president reiterated his preference for congress to take up the issue. >> it continues to be my great preference to see congress pass comprehensive legislation because that is not reversed by a future president. it would have to be reversed by a future congress. >> and with open enrollment for the signature health care law on day two. the president touted the latest numbers. >> healthcare.gov works really well now. 1.2 million people use the window shopping function since sunday, there were 23,000 applications completed in just the first eight hours and tens of thousands more throughout the day. >> the president and other european leaders used the summit to talk about the situation in ukraine and russia's role in the unrest. vladimir putin has faced criticism over the issue including sanctions.

president obama suggested more sanctions could be on the way. and joining me now from the white house, kasie hunt. the president covering a lot of ground in that press conference. what did he accomplish at the g-20 summit? >> he sure did, alex. and the summit was the conclusion of his sweep through asia where the white house is pointing to a number of accomplishments over the course of the whole trip. they're talking about trade and climate change in particular. he announced that deal with the chinese, a ground breaking deal on climate change. they made progress on the transpacific partnership, that's a trade deal. and the president also announced new funding for global funds to combat climate change. and, you know, his aides, the white house aides are characterizing this of them being able to lean forward at a time when they are actually dealing with sort of crisis after crisis. and for the past few weeks, there's been a lot of crisis manageme management.

>> where do things stand with that relationship? >> it's almost like he took a little bit of this arctic freeze we're having here in the u.s. with him. on this trip. >> no, you know, i think the president and putin, obama himself described it as, quote, business like and blunt. and that's something i think also applies to many of the other world leaders who are there, russian president putin left the g-20 a little bit ea y early. the suggestion from western leaders was that he was doing that because he's unhappy with how they've approached him on the ukraine, saying it was an invasion, saying he needs to get russians out of the ukraine. putin said he needs to get enough sleep before he goes to work on monday. >> okay. thank you much. >> thanks, alex. other news now. four workers are dead, one is injured after a chemical leak at an industrial plant near houston. it was contained two hours later. the chemical has a rotten egg smell.

that foul odor spread out from the plant and across the metropolitan area about 40 miles away. the company insists there was no danger. a worker who contracted ebola while working in sierra leone is quote in critical condition in omaha. and doctors describe it as an hour by hour situation. he's the third ebola patient to be treated at nebraska medical center. after months of delay, dutch investigators now at the site of the malaysian airlines flight mh-17 crash in ukraine. teams are collecting evidence where the official cause of the crash will be determined. it was shot down in july in an area of ukraine controlled by russian-backed rebels. let's go to the weather now and a look at how difficult it is to get around with the cold and the snow. many drivers have been stranded in the twin cities. one interstate had to be shut down because of a crash. how long will this last? the weather channel's alex wallace joins me now.

>> good sunday to you, alex, tracking our storm system through the middle of the country. and it will continue to slide its way towards the east. we've got cold air. we are feeling that right now. if it does so, it'll leave us with a stripe of snow. stretching from parts of the rockies. into the interior parts of the northeast. now, we're not anticipating huge totals, but there will be snow nonetheless. today, we'll watch it. anywhere here from new mexico, texas/oklahoma panhandle. getting into the midwest. interstate 70, dealing with some of that snow. and tonight, that'll continue over toward indianapolis. now, we'll start off here in the ohio valley, dealing with a bit of a rain and snow mix. we switch over to some snow. we're getting back to work, having to deal with that. the east coast, 95 corridor, going to be a bit too warm for the winter stuff. rain, not going to be a comfortable rain. here's how much we were thinking. looks like generally 1 to 3 inches. a pocket, a bit of a bull's eye, 3 to 5 inches.

bigger totals as we slide our way east. we're talking in this purple area here. that'll be 5 to 8 inches of snow through the earlier part of the week. we'll be digging out and, of course, we are staying cold. >> okay. alex wallace, thanks for that. for the first time, we're hearing from the bill cosby camp. just a short time ago, an attorney for cosby issued this statement. over the last several weeks, decade-old discredited allegations against mr. cosby have resurfaced. the fact they are being repeated does not make them true. mr. cosby does not intend to dignify these allegations with any comment. now, this comes amid a growing uproar over allegations that cosby sexually assaulted several women in past decades. joining me now, a boston globe contributor who has written an article. renee, welcome to you. thanks for joining me.

>> hi, alex. >> we need to say that bill cosby was never criminally charged in any of these cases. in an interview on saturday, cosby refused to answer questions about the women's claims. here's that. >> this question gives me no pleasure, mr. cosby, but there have been serious allegations raised about you in recent days. you're shaking your head no. do you have any response to those charges? shaking your head no. >> why do you think bill cosby is not speaking out at all and merely shaking his head in reaction? >> i feel there's nothing he felt he could say. he could've said no comment, something similar to the statement his lawyer said. but it keeps the story going.

i also think he's surprised. and no one has yet asked him about these allegations. so i don't really think he expected scott simon to go there. and i think when he did, he had no answer, it was a startling moment. >> he's got a couple of recent television appearances. they have both been canceled. there's no sign at this point that the performing schedule will be affected. is there a chance that might change? >> it can change. depends how much momentum this could get. he canceled an appearance this week on letterman. i think that the difference is he's concerned about how an audience might react. is he going to get booed when hep comes out? he might find that when he's on stage. but he might also find a lot of support. but i'm not really sure. so far, he's -- his reactions have been a little bit tone deaf from what happened with twitter earlier this week where he encouraged people to -- which went horribly wrong. and so, i think that keeping a

performance schedule is his way of showing things are going along business as usual. it might be a mistake depending on how the audience reacts. >> he's made a career, a comedy career based on stories about his family and you wrote this very great article in which you talk about how we not only like bill cosby, we also trust him. and here's what you also wrote, there's no longer a conversation to be had about him without the accusations peeking around every corner. so how badly do you think this could hurt the image of the guy? the guy that created fat albert and the cosby kids? >> i don't see how his reputation recovers at this point. and that's too bad because he's been part of the landscape for so long. going back to i spy, to the cosby show, to fat albert, to his stand-up routines.

he's a part of the american culture. however, these allegations are incredibly serious. and they're not going away. they're building. more and more people are talking about them. women are coming forward and talking about their experiences. i don't know he recovers from this. the allegations, as i said, continue to build and there's not a lot he seems to be able to do about this. and he's not really addressing it beyond his lawyer saying, well, we're not going to say anything. >> then that leaves people able to speculate. do you think there's a chance that he will change his mind speak out about this. and at least for the most part, you address it, people talk about it. you have that heinous day in the sun and move on because something else happens. you might -- might that benefit and address it to get it over with? >> i'm sure there are any number

of outfits that would love to sit down and talk about this. for some reason he's decided not to do that. perhaps he thinks anything he says will keep the story going. but it doesn't matter. if he says nothing, the story keeps going anyway. and he seems incapable of stopping what's become a bit of a wild fire at this point so, you know, initially it would seem like, yes, get in front of this, address it, deal with it and move on. but the fact that he hasn't done it, i think, has given the story a lot more momentum. >> so you're thinking that this is going to stick? this will be part of a legacy, the later in life legacies? >> i think this sticks. he's been in the public eye for over 50 years, he's 77 years old. this is part of the bill cosby story. whether the allegations are unfounded, or not, whether there'll be charges, i don't think these go away and i think now when the conversation is had about bill cosby, people will have to also think about these allegations. >> okay. thank you for the conversation. i appreciate it. >> thank you. how a well known poem played

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republicans can't have it both ways. for over a year and a half, we have left on their table in the house of representatives a bipartisan immigration reform bill to address our broken immigration system. they refuse to call the bill or any aspect relating to the bill. and now they say to the president, we don't want you to lift a finger to solve the problem. this president is not going to go gently into the last two years, he's going to lead as he's expected to as our president. and i hope that john boehner --

>> that was majority whip dick durbin discussing president obama's congressional action. joining me now, howard dean and republican strategist leslie sanchez who served in the white house under president george w. bush. welcome to you both. i'll begin with you, governor, a piece in the washington post this morning about immigration in which he writes, quote, even some democrats are nervous about how unilateral action will shape the opening stages of the relationship between the white house and the congress that will be fully controlled by the republicans. obama clearly sees it differently. he sees a clock ticking on this presidency with little time left to burnish what he hopes eventually be seen, from health care to climate to immigration. is he risking the party for the sake of legacy? >> well, i don't think he's doing it for the sake of legacy. i think he'd like to get something done. here's the problem, this set-up is a great set-up for having

bipartisan cooperation. republicans have the majority. they appear to be much more serious than they were in the last four years. the problem is there's no trust on either side. and boehner's not committed to bringing a reasonable bill to the floor. if boehner were to commit to a bipartisan solution which i think mcconnell is half way down the road of doing, then the president could afford to wait. i don't know if i would trust the republicans. that is the problem we're facing now is a complete and lack of total trust. >> that they're serious here. if you have john boehner saying we're going to shut down the government, it could happen here, the same week that mitch mcconnell's ascending to the top position there in the senate saying it'll never happen. i mean, really? you think the republicans are serious if they were smart, they

would be. it's going to depend on whether the american people -- mostly because the republicans are completely untrustworthy. they say one thing, do another, and they are just completely obstructionist. so they've got to break that mold to show they're a serious party capable of governing right now. i think there is a chance of being bipartisan. but boehner has to make a commitment before the president issues executive order. and the president doesn't believe him, why should he? >> i've got to ask about a republican plan. what is specifically that plan? and when might it be ready for a vote? >> sure. yeah, and i do want to address one thing the governor's saying. he's saying the republicans have been obstructionists and everything on this, you've seen everything to the fact that this is a lot of political posturing on behalf of the president. and that does not make for a very good coming together

republicans and democrats for meaningful reform. it's going to make it even more difficult for speaker boehner to get the votes. and the democrats to come to the table to have this. what do we want? more border enforcement, border security, and focus on good policy. doing these kind of things where you think you wipe the slate clean, doesn't solve the problem. we saw that in 1986, talked about interior enforcement and penalizing employers and quadrupled the number of undocumente undocumenteds. >> do you think republicans don't want the parents of dreamers to stay in the country with their children? >> i think that's nonsense. i think there's a lot of republicans, democrats, independents that agree that we want to keep families unified. there's a legal system and a way to do that. and i think the distinction's going to be the democrats and the president's drawing a clear line where it looks like it's going to be more open border,

more unilateral amnesty and citizenship versus a measured approach of enforcing all the boards, land, air and sea and having citizenship for a few and finding a way to have a worker visa program where people can leave and go back and forth. many gates along the border. that's a more practical approach that makes it significant and meaningful. but unifying families should always be the core of that. >> governor, don't you think -- go ahead. >> i think the republicans -- that may be the republican talking points. they've done nothing to do that. all they've done is campaign against amnesty. amnesty, in fact, is letting families stay together. that's what the republicans would call amnesty. i think we could put together a bill that would pass the dream act, allow families to stay unified by allowing the parents of legal american citizens to stay in the country and continue to work. and have border security. that's the compromise. if the republicans are not willing to do what they call

amnesty, there is no immigration bill and the president needs to go ahead as quickly as possible with the executive order. you cannot trust the republicans. i want to hear rhetoric from the republicans talk about compromise, not hard edge, i hate latino immigrants. it's over, you can't benefit from that. >> nobody is going to support that kind of harsh white hot rhetoric. nobody has a place on any side of the aisle saying that about any community. we need a humane way to approach a broken immigration system. and i think we get a lot -- put a lot of light on those few voices but that's not what compromise is about. bad policy that really ignites and exacerbates a broken system instead of trying to solve how to do this effectively, which we have yet to be able to do in nearly three decades. >> if president obama is thinking legacy, a couple of government shutdowns in three years, that could not help that legacy. do you think he'll take the blame in the public?

>> i think it's -- if the president issues an executive order, of course he's going to take the blame and the credit. of course, the president takes the blame and the credit for everything no matter whose fault it is. that's the nature of being in t executive chair. >> might that bog down any momentum the gop has with the new power? >> speaker boehner can move forward with border enforcement first, which is really the calling cry you're seeing, not just from republicans, but out in the grass roots community. that's why you saw that gallup poll. enforcement and protecting the sovereignty of the u.s. is a key part of that. of course unifying families of select few. of course, looking at, you know, instate tuition. looking at -- this is an issue with the president. he's providing false hope on deferred action. it leaves too many people in this ambiguous state. it needs to be solved. and there are elements of

republicans and democratic compromise that come together to do that. it's going to be piecemeal. >> there's one thing the gop is not divided on and that's obamacare. they want it out. they have the supreme court case. and on "morning joe," the debacle that the core problem of obamacare is it was put together by elitists who don't understand the american people. so should it be repealed? should any elements of it be repealed? >> well, first let me just finish with the immigration. i think made the case for why the president has to go ahead. she was unwilling to say we ought to keep families together in this legislation. we're not going to let the republicans go first with harsh border measures unless we also get what the democrats want. until speaker boehner is willing to come to that table and compromise, there's not going to be progress and the president's going to do his order and i think that's the right thing to do. now, in search of obamacare, the biggest mistake was not having

the public option. it failed by one vote in the senate. now, if that were the case, we'd probably actually still be in charge of the senate. what happened was the website collapsed. i happened to turn 65 shortly after the website collapsed and i signed up for medicare and took me ten minutes. had that happened, a lot of things would have been different. so, you know, i don't expect republicans to make that kind of a change to obamacare. but it would be a very smart thing to do. tlstz going to have to be cross controls on medicare. i favor getting rid of fee for service medicine. that could be done on a bipartisan. i talked to a lot of smart people who work for conservative think tanks who believe that's the right way to go. and a lot of people believe that's the right way to go. right now, our health care system incentivizes more spending, not less. so, again, you could make some sensible changes in obamacare. but under the atmosphere of the election we just had, there's

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>> explain to civilians what it means when you break this code of silence. what is the fallout? >> well, we're in it together. or, as franklin said, we'll all hang separately. and so it's really important that the focus be on the group and not on any individual, but particularly in special operations. because in -- i apologize, i got the tail end of a cold. >> no problem. >> in special operations, anything that comes out is liable to jeopardize special operators on the one hand and future operations on the other. and so the best thing to do is to say nothing, admit nothing, don't confirm or deny anything. but that's not what's happening here. >> he talks about the partnership he had with another s.e.a.l., another operative on that mission who actually went into the room first and threw himself on, apparently, the two

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thorn decorated it like his office. and there is an algebra problem there which is about 50 feet long, 4 feet high. and i said to him, i said to him, i never understand this problem. and he said to me, michael, you wouldn't understand the answer. >> i do want to get to your working relationship with christopher nolan. you've been in several films with him. but you've said he's secretive. >> oh, yeah. he's very secretive. the way i've got. i've head six pictures with chris now. this is the sixth one. i made three batmans. and this one -- the very first time was the part of batman. he lived near me in england. he came to my house on a sunday morning and had this script and asked me to read the script and see if i would play the butler. and i said, yes, and he stayed there and had tea with my wife. cup of tea with my wife and he

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♪ >> reporter: it was the first of its kind. music's biggest stars banding together to raise money for famine aid this africa. band aid 1984. 30 years later, a new wave of stars, plus a few originals. >> i'm excited today about "star trek" the next generation. i would be happy to stand in the background and wave. >> reporter: and a new song to raise money for the fight against ebola in west africa. >>s this is a particularly pernicious illness because it renders humans untouchable. and that's sickening. motherers can't comfort their children in their dying hours. lovers can't cradle each other. wiveses can't hold their husb d husbands' hands.

>> reporter: bob geldoff wrote the first "do they know its christmas." the signature line -- >> well, tonight thank god it's there instead of you. >> is now, we are reaching out and touching youment the final version is top secret until it comes out. >> it's really good fun. >> reporter: the original raised $11 million for africa. the message from stars this time, don't share it, buy it. >> well, that was nbc's kelly kobaya from london. the washington, d.c. city council will tighten rules required for police forfeiture of citizen assets. that runs counter to what's taking place in cities around the country. charlotte has been reporting on police seizures and seizures by the irs.

welcome to you. you write the police departments around the country are seizing assets without even filing a criminal charge. how can this happen? >> they don't have to file a criminal charge. they file charges against the property itself. saying this property is a nuisance because it was used in the commission of a crime or it was the product of a crime. they don't have to file criminal charges and prove it. >> okay. >> let's look at the amount of property that's been seized which is certainly on the rise over the past decade. under a federal program, more than $4 billion in assets were seized in 2012. that's up from $407 million in 2001. what's behind this dramatic increase? >> well, you have to remember that the law enforcement agencies that seized the money get to keep it. if the federal government ditz, they share it with local law enforcement. that number doesn't include all of the seizures that local law enforcement makes on its own.

so it's enormously lucrative for police departments and prosecutors to make as many seizures as they can. >> when you talk about the money, we are not talking just about cash lying around. we are talking assets. you write about a set of officers that are looking and seeing a swanky mercedes pulling up. what happenses in that? they seize it knowing what they will do and, what, they sell it? where do they sell it to get money? >> some places sell it. they have rules. some have to auction it. a lot of them hold auctions. some let police officials and prosecutors use the cars themselveses and drive them around the town. >> you write that police departments are drawing up wish lists when decides which assets to seize. how widespread is that practice? >> we don't know. again, iter varies from jurisdiction to jurisdiction. some police officers and prosecutors will say, tell me if you want this car.

we've got a late model lincoln. do you want it? if not, i will let the owner have it back. >> they say don't bother with jewelry. it's hard to dispose of. don't do computers. everybody's got one already. they say do go after flat screen tv, cash, cars and especially nice cars. when you were uncovering this how surprising was it to you? >> a lot of the critics say it can skew law enforcement priorities all together. who are you going after? the big time drug dealer who drives the crappy car or the one with the nice car? which one is more of a danger to public safety? once you read some of the cases and watch videos it's shocking. i think it's something that both liberals and conservatives can be offended by because it just seems so un-american. >> that's the police' sures.

you write the government went run of the mill wage earners without an allegation they have committed serious crimes. they may take the money without filing a criminal complaint there. you talked about an iowa restaurant owner. carol hinders. what happened to her? >> she was a restaurant owner. she's 67. she's owned the restaurant almost four decades and has been doing the exact same thing -- making her deposits in cash. at some point -- >> isn't she a cash only restaurant? >> she is. >> all right. >> there is nothing illegal about being a cash only restaurant. there is nothing illegal about depositing cash in your bank account. the irs gets reports that say so and so is making multiple cash deposits that are all below the limit of $10,000. $10,000 is an important number because if it is over $10,000 the bank files a different report notifying we have this

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