hollywood walk of fame today. the star is currently in the hit movie "interstellar." that's going to do it for monday. "morning joe" starts right now. ♪ >> good morning. it's monday, november 17th. welcome to "morning joe." don't look out the window. >> what a day. >> all right. on set, we have managing editor of "bloomberg politics, park halperin is with us and amy joins us as well. how was your weekend? the tide rolled. >> the tide did roll. quite a game. how did vandy do? >> they had a bye week. to mississippi state where we

have to deal with the mess you left. >> very angry group of bulldogs. >> mississippi state should be in the playoffs. one loss to maybe the best team in the country. >> no doubt about it. how was your weekend, mark? >> thank you very much it was good. i activated my iphone 6. long delay. >> that's exciting. >> it is for me. 6 or 6 plus. i'll show you a picture i took with it that relates to one of the guests on today's program. >> i hope you had a more exciting weekend than mark. >> i was in dallas, texas. it was colder in dallas than it was here. the arctic -- you know. >> the vortex thing. all right. so we have a lot of different news coming in from washington across the world and washington especially. i guess it's good news. bad news. bad news. maybe it's good news mixed news bad news. a lot of stories about obamacare

this weekend. >> steve has a piece on wages in "the new york times" we'll get to. we'll start with obamacare. enrollment in the affordable care act is under way again and the secretary of health and human services says that 100,000 people submitted applications on saturday, the first day of open enrollment. she said about a million people have been "window shopping" and in a new poll 7 of 10 americans rank their coverage under obamacare as excellent or good. >> i want to keep this up. it's one of the reasons we led with this story. there's been a problem with the rollout but a lot of people have said all along if americans like obamacare, if obamacare works for them and makes their life easier and costs them less, the majority of americans, it will succeed. it will survive. it will thrive. you look at this poll, i must say this poll caught me by surprise this weekend. >> at how popular it is. >> for the people who actually

enroll that over 70% of the people like it. >> there's two big questions i think going forward. one is will the losers in this become vocal, people who lose access to their doctor and whose premiums go up, will their voices be as loud as winners, the people happy with the program, and cost control measures have not kicked in in in full. if this controls cost for companies and individuals, it will be very popular. >> you'll remember this back 1993, 1994, the clintons were talking about healthcare reform. at the time medical inflation was exploding. the mere talk of a very rigid health care reform system actually lowered. some people say it was a coincidence. perhaps it was. but suddenly everybody, the insurance companies, the big healthcare corporations, suddenly their cost started to go down. the same thing happened when

obamacare was debated. even before it was passed. suddenly we saw medical inflation slowing down. it's like she are saudis. the two time it slows down, it's not when legislation passes, but when the threat of legislation comes up. >> it affects the whole market, not just insurance companies but other healthcare providers. the other big piece we saw was sylvia matthews is really talented. i went to college with her. she's focused. she wants this to succeed more than her predecessor she's been given authority to implement this and make it work and so far it is. >> it's an interesting quandary for republicans whose top issue is the debt.

>> right. >> long-term debt, medicare, medicaid drives long-term debt. again, medical inflation, i want to state this again so people don't get too excited this early because i know they do, it was slowing down during the debate down to 2% and noted while that year and a half debate was going on how much it had slowed down. if you were a small government conservative, do you really want to say we're going to get rid of this whole thing and maybe see all of the costs explode back up again because the threat is gone and the saudis decide they can control costs better or do you just all of the things that are offensive to you because of liberty and freedom and individual choice and you just mend it. i think it presents republicans, small government republicans, an

interesting question. >> yeah. if you see polls like this come out again and we saw that they're happy with the coverage, the people who enrolled 70% happy with the coverage and this is what the obama administration said all along. we were terrible with the website. we screwed up the website and political side of this is something different. jonathan gruber and the rest of it. if this stuff works and people like the coverage they have, let's see how it works out and this is our first indication that some people who have it seem to like it. >> willie mentioned the name that shall not be mentioned in the white house. gruber. this could be good news except for the fact that jonathan gruber, i guess, he did this just sort of -- some people golf. some people go around calling the american people stupid. mr. gruber should have picked up a 9 iron. >> you have never done that. >> i've never called the american people people. i say the american people always get it right. at the end of the day when it

makes me angry, the american people get it right. >> he said in three separate videos at least suggesting that a lack of transparency and stupidity on the part of the voters contributed to the law's passage. david axelrod tweeted this. as one who worked hard to make aca and its benefits clear, let me say if you looked up stupid in the dictionary you would find gruber's picture. the president reacted yesterday from across the globe. >> i just heard about this. i get well briefed before i come out here. the fact that some adviser who never worked on our staff expressed an opinion that i completely disagree with in terms of the voters is no reflection on the actual process that was run. we had a year-long debate, ed. go back and look at your stories. the one thing we can't say is

that we did not have a lengthy debate about health care in the united states of america. i think it's fair to say there was not a provision in the healthcare law that was not extensively debated and was fully transparent. >> mark halperin, that statement just begs for so many swift rebuttals. i go to you. was it transparent? >> on at least one important provision if you like your doctor you can keep him, i don't think we had a full debate because a lot of people have lost access to their doctor. some people have been losers. >> if you like your plan, you can keep your plan. that ended up not being true. >> premiums won't go up. >> that's not true for a lot of people. we didn't have a full and transparent debate. >> you have to blame mitt romney for part of that. he was not able to lead a full debate because he passed a plan

in massachusetts that handcuffed him a little bit in criticizing. >> you're talking about during the '12 election. >> either time we didn't have a full debate. >> the president is back from a week-long trip to china, myanmar and it appears the president will make immigration his number one priority this week. it's believed the president will grant legal status to millions of undocumented workers through an executive action, an issue former president bill clinton could have made a difference at the polls just a few weeks ago. >> there was a collapse of the youth vote. the african-american vote held steady and was remarkable. we had a bit of a loss at the hispanic vote. perhaps because the president didn't issue the immigration

order but it was a tough call for him because had he done so then a lot of others would have lost even more. it was a difficult call. >> so was it the president's fault for not leading with immigration during the campaign? >> i think president clinton is right. i think politics could have benefited the president and democratic party if he had led and not disappointed activist in the immigrant community expecting action before the election cycle. >> senator mccaskill is not crazy about the president taking executive action on immigration saying if house speaker boehner doesn't like it he should bring the immigration bill to the floor for a vote. a republican colleague in the senate is leaving the door wide open for a government shutdown. senator john thune says the president is playing with fire by taking the issue of immigration into his own hands. >> i think republicans are

looking at different options about how best to respond to the president's unilateral action, which many people feel is unconstitutional and unlawful action on this particular issue. shutting the government doesn't solve the problem. my concern is what happens if we end up shutting down what could be a record legislative accomplishment that is there for the taking if the president would choose cooperation instead of conflict. >> the door wide open to possible government shutdown from john thune, a guy that doesn't go around the capitol like the tasmania devil. >> that was two weeks after the election when we had peace and harmony for a couple of days. now we talk shutdown again. >> i think it has to be taken off the table. they have enough power. they have enough authority. they run the house. they run the senate. they have the checkbook in the house. they have a lot of power in the senate. they could do a lot of things and still be able to say there

will never be a government shutdown. we will not do that. we will not play with the faith and full credit of the united states of america, no, no, no. the answer is no. we have a thousand other things that we're looking at. government shutdown, no. i have been there. put my hand on the stove. you were there it not so long ago. you may remember your approval rating dropped to the lowest level ever and if you want to know why the tea party candidates that you endorse did not win in the primaries, it's because you shut down the government. okay. so you shut down the government and you basically killed politically your allies so mainstream republicans won and now they control the senate. we're going to run the government and not shut it down.

i have tried that twice. you tried it. really, it sucked. the fallout is bad every single time. okay. hand on stove, bad. thank you. i'm done. >> can i ask you a question about immigration. >> sure. >> the president hasn't defended on merits the things he talks about with this executive order. do you think they would be popular with the american people? >> i think the president can get -- i think he could get mainstream support for a measured executive order. i really do. i think a lot of americans are like me. they are here. i like them paying taxes. i like them -- we're not going to go to their doors and kick them down and drag them back to mexico and china and other -- we're not going to do that. we know that. we're not going to do it. so if they're here at least

legalize them. i would rather cops go after murderers than arresting people that are here and have been here whose children are in school and are going to stay here and they are not leaving. nobody is suggesting they're leaving. all right. go ahead and give them legal status, right. three-year work permit. do whatever you want to do. and build the border fence 800 feet high. awesome. i'll all for that. and i think the president would probably find that would be acceptable for a lot of americans. i mean, they're not going. now, listen, here's the deal. if there's part of that that leads to citizenship, some people like me have a problem with it because the first thing you do coming to america can't be illegal. nothing you do illegally can put you ahead of the immigrant from pakistan who wants to bring her

husband over here. i mean, it's got to be fair. let's be fair. since they are here, let's face the reality. legalize the status and get them paying taxes into the system. it's a lot of taxes we need. >> one more major headline this morning. in just a few hours, the parents of the american aid worker beheaded by islamic state militants will speak out at a news conference. u.s. officials say they have authenticated a graphic 16-minute video from isis which revealed that 27 peter kassig was executed. he's the fifth american to be killed by isis. the former army ranger was kidnapped during an aid mission. kassig's parents said he converted to islam during his captivity. in a statement, president obama said it was an act of pure evil. meanwhile, former republican presidential nominee mitt romney is criticizing president obama's

response to it the rise of isis. he says the president should not rule out boots on the ground. >> i just don't think you take things off the table and say that we're going to destroy isis when the president says for instance that isis is a cancer and it must be eliminated. he's right. but you don't say we're only going to use the following tools in doing so. you say we're going to do whatever it takes and hopefully we'll be able to do that with other people's troops but if it takes our own troops, you don't take that as a source of our strength from the battlefield. >> all right. >> mark, i think he's running. >> if jeb bush doesn't run, i think he will. >> he would beat jeb bush. i can't believe i'm saying that. if jeb bush runs -- i can't believe i'm saying it. if jeb bush runs, that guy beats him. >> i think he could beat jeb bush but i don't think he's going to run against him. >> i think he's absolutely running without question. >> he does a lot of sunday shows

for a guy that's not running. >> he looks presidential. he's been in the middle of it. he's been right. jeb has been off the field for a very long time. a very long time. let's go to eamon. you knew peter. talk, if you will, about the last time you saw him. >> the last time i saw him was actually in beirut just a few weeks before he was ultimately kidnapped. we had a chance, myself and a few other foreign journalists, many who knew peter better than i did. it was a casual day in beirut. we had lunch. i saw a young man driven by what he set out to do which is this organization he created to help syrian ref yugeerefugees.

he was at peace despite knowing the risks. being the journalists that we were, we were skeptical about the environment he was going into to be careful and watch out with who he was working with. he had a network of people he was relying on. the circumstances of his kidnapping were to us still somewhat mysterious if you will. he was great guy. he was an individual. very calm person who was driven by a great sense of ideals after several years of questioning what happened around him in the middle east he felt he had the purpose in trying to help syrian ref yugees refugees. >> a former army ranger. >> he served in iraq. >> he decided he wanted to go back and help. an aid worker. it's remarkable. i saw the atlantic monthly tweet yesterday an article where they said there was a time when islamic radicals actually tried to court journalists and explain why they were doing what they were doing. now they try to kill them and

behead them. it's a short sided routine that in the end loses, it always does. there was this line in a letter to his parents that was so moving where he said don't worry, dad, if i go down just know that i know the truth that you and mom love me more than the moons and the stars. he seemed like a pretty incredible guy. incredible guy trying to bring relief to the hopeless. >> everyone that knew him could feel that. he was well liked by his group of friends in beirut. very, very respected. >> still ahead on "morning joe," we have general michael hayden here and actor matthew goode and michael haney. a highly contagious virus

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>> willie is -- what have you got there? >> they did it again. brooklyn bridge. >> come on. >> why are you doing that? germans again? seriously. >> this is embarrassing. >> you waved the white flag twice in the last hundred years. just stop. come on. we get it. you lost two wars. stop waving the white flag. >> it's not about the germans. >> anyway, "ghostbusters." you and -- >> we talk about "ghostbusters"

a lot. i picked it up. he's obsessed. he's quoting it. he got the jokes. he likes the song. >> all right. let's go to the morning papers. >> to sounds wonderful. "the new york times" a surgeon has been transported to omaha, nebraska, to undergo treatment. he is ill and in worse condition than other ebola patients treated in the u.s. dr. salia lives in maryland and was diagnosed with ebola last monday. the illness killed 5,000 people in west africa and the u.s. announced it will begin to screen people traveling from mali for the deadly virus. >> it looks like our thanksgiving cruise that we were going to do may be off. "morning joe" cruise. >> we're working on rebooking.

"los angles times" a cruise ship docked off the coast of california after at least 158 passengers and 11 crew members showed signs of norovirus. the second outbreak on the same ship this year alone. incidents involving the gastrointestinal virus have taken a toll on the cruise industry. >> love to be on that ship. >> recent surveys show a drop in trust among travelers. >> and u2 is being force ed to reschedule an appearance after bono was injured in a bike accident in new york central park. in a statement, the band said the singer will have to undergo surgery on his arm. it's not clear when the accident happened or if anything else was involved. just last week the rear hatch on bono's private jet came off while landing in berlin. officials say the aircraft was never in danger of crashing.

>> tough week for bono. >> that's a rough week. >> too many bikers going fast in central park. a woman was killed. >> where i live up in connecticut, these bikers, you can tell they're hedge funds guys. i'm dead serious. they come home and they go like 80 miles an hour around blind corners. i had to swerve with two children in the back seat and swerve across or the guy could have been killed. we were just pulling out of a place. you just sit there wondering do these people have a death wish? it's not cool. even if you are willing to risk your life, it's not cool to make me swerve into ongoing traffic with my children in the back seat because you want the thrill of going 80 miles an hour around blind turns. >> what's scary in central park -- i don't know what happened to bono but you have those same kind of people flying

through the park and they have a lane but then you have people with strollers and little kids walking around and people out for a jog. it's dangerous mix. >> it's not cool. >> a news anchor in australia is drawing attention to the double standards faced by his female co-hosts. the male host revealed he had been wearing the same suit for a year and nobody noticed. >> i've done that. he says it started as a month-long experiment to see how women on tv are judged more harshly for their outfits. after coming clean, he received an outpouring of support from users of social media some of whom called it a strong show of empathy. >> do you think i'll get that for wearing the same blue sweater every day? >> you have to back sell it as for some cause not because you didn't want to change. >> i slept in it. >> i get a lot of mean letters about what i wear most of them are from my mom. those don't count. >> she's relentless.

>> she just keeps coming. >> mika, your outfit, gross. >> how does that make you feel? >> it's fine. >> the story of her life. >> she is a difficult child. >> chief white house correspondent mike allen has a look at the playbook. good morning, sir. >> good morning, guys. >> you have had a busy weekend talking to bill clinton about the mid terms over the weekend. you were down in little rock. we heard a little bit of what he had to say about the immigration debate. here's more of what he said. >> the people who were against us felt more strongly than the people who were for us and the people who were for us, couldn't hear what was a fairly coherent economic message coming out. we didn't have a national advertising campaign that might have made all the difference in a couple of close races. it would not have changed the larger outcome.

we have to learn about that and republicans are doing that too. i know enough of them and have talked to several of them and a lot of them were surprised by their victory margins. a lot of them won by four, five, six, eight points more than they thought they did. some put their own money into the campaign in the last week once they saw how much they won by wish they had the money back. >> if you widen out the frame there, we'll see you with president clinton. what was the weekend like? >> tomorrow is the 10th anniversary of that rainy day when all of the ex-presidents were in town. president bush to dedicate his library. president clinton was in a great move. hundreds of alumni from his administration in town wearing buttons going back to 1991 campaign when he announced there in little rock. all of the way up to people looking to the future with ready for hillary. the president came in and i thought he was going to come in

this way. he came in this way. and the audience laughed and he said i just wanted to live up to my reputation for being slick. ease in behind you. in that clip about the mid terms, he said he was surprised by the margins. he thought the senate races that he and secretary clinton worked so hard on would be closer and he was very serious about a couple things. mentioned the national advertising campaign there in the clip. he said that it might have been good to be out talking about student loans, income inequality, things that democrats were doing. he said that both parties need to do some political science and some research on these late deciders because it was clear that so many people flipped away from democrats in the last week understand that voter behavior and he made the point that exit polls were closer than the real polls. look at that modeling. >> mike allen, thank you so much. coming up, congressman fred

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>> there are always circumstances in which the united states might need to deploy u.s. ground troops. if we discover that isil had gotten possession of a nuclear weapon and we had to run an operation to get it out of their hands, then, yes, you can anticipate that not only would chairman dempsey recommend me sending u.s. troops to get that weapon out of their hands, but i would order it. >> welcome back to "morning joe." time now for the must read opinion pages. the president of course talking -- the question at this point especially in light of the latest beheading is the war on isis working? and there are some science that it is. these videos and these stories

of these killings sort of trump any news. >> there are signs of some advances, some modest advances but also obviously isis can claim a lot of success that america's half measures aren't doing anything to impact them. >> the organization is at least demonstrating some resilience in the wake of these air strikes. it's still fighting in two countries. the leadership of the organization is making public statements. and they're responding to events around them in a way they are putting out their statements and their commentary to suggest that there still is some kind of cohesiveness in the way that they respond to these events. we heard groups in egypt and algeria and libya expressing support and allegiance to that organization to isis and so the leader of isis is also responding to those organizations and i think that's going to be very problematic. it's an organization that has been somewhat degraded because of the strikes.

it hasn't taken over kobani which is a major setback. it's fighting on two fronts and it has now been joined by the al qaeda affiliate inside syria and that's going to be very problematic as these two potent forces join the fight together. >> so what is the impact of the u.s. strikes been? >> i think it's definitely kept the organization on its back heels. it's disrupted operations no doubt about it. it's given space for the iraqi government to get its act together. the political will. it created a political dynamic inside iraq that brought a new prime minister. and now he's trying to lead the charge to rebuild the country or rebuild the military in that country and try to get the iraqi government to address some of the grievances of the sunni population which can then drain out a bit of that support there for isis.

that's the long-term play. that was created by the u.s. getting involved and giving iraqi government that space. >> it's very interesting listening to barack obama. there really is such a difference in the view of the obama administration and bush administration. obama administration will act on iran after iran gets a nuclear weapon. they will act on isis after isis gets a nuclear weapon from what the president was saying whereas the bush administration sometimes would go in too early. i wonder if there's a happy middle ground where you don't have to wait until they have a nuclear weapon to go in and degrade forces enough so they can't get ahold of a nuclear weapon. >> "the new york times," the fable of rand paul by frank. at this point paul is as much a political fable as a political reality and his supposed strengths pale beside his weaknesses. he himself seems to doubt some of his positions and has managed in his four short years in the

senate to flip and flop enough to give opponents a store house of ammunition. what really distinguishes him is that he's been so obvious and unabashed about his potential interest in the presidency. he's taken more pains than perhaps anyone other than ted cruz to get publicity and that's given him a stature disproportionate to his fate. there it is again. that one overused superlative. >> his past positions put him way outside of the mainstream of even the republican party. i was against all foreign aid before i was for it. a lot of convoluted statements he needs to walk back now. i don't know you he wins the nomination from republicans. >> two things.

one, i probably disagree with almost everything -- on almost everything with rand paul. number one, i think we should take away that whole concept of flip-flop because it doesn't allow anyone, especially an elected official to change your mind on any issue. wherever you start, you have to end up there. that's a mistake. second, and i disagree with almost everything that rand paul does but on criminal justice and mass incarceration and the drug war, he is creating an unlikely alliance with liberals on this issue which is interesting. he's e iing it on this issue. >> we had a story a couple weeks ago where they are in the same place where left leaning people are on criminal justice reform. so fair? >> he raises all of the right

questions about paul's vulnerabilities as a candidate. i think rand paul has a chance. he's so confident and his skills are so good, he has a chance to address some of the things. he's been thin skinned up until now. when he's been attacked on his path, he's been thin skinned. it's interesting now that spotlight is on him when he's next attacked on something from his past to see how he handles it. i'm willing to give him a chance to see if he does better. >> really thin skinned? he's new to the game. >> it runs in the family. >> thank you very much. up next, will a new congress open the doors to more cooperation in washington? congressman fred upton and congresswoman diana degette give it a shot and new allegations of sexual assault against bill cosby. we'll tell you what the attorney for the legendary comedian is saying next. more "morning joe" when we return. kid: hey dad, who was that man?

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>> joining us now on set, republican chairman of the house ener energy. >> there's a frustration. they have horrible stories about me. don't tell them on the air. >> they get worse every year. >> it was really bad i know. americans wonder why we can't short circuit the process whether it's fda or the nih or

whatever to get new drugs approved, get new treatment approved. why can't we? >> we need to. that's an initiative that bipartisan initiative that diana and i are hoping to spearhead. we'll introduce legislation early next year that will speed up the approval of all drugs and devices. tell me a family who doesn't have someone that's impacted by some disease, cancer, parkinson's, alzheimer's, you name it. it's time that we change the process for approving these drugs and devices and take advantage of the technology and all those different things and really move up to the 21st century. >> why haven't we in the past? what's the biggest obstacle? >> we haven't been able to figure out what to do. the nih was established over a hundred years ago. we're now getting a really good consensus from the scientific community and the researchers

and the patient advocacy groups and disease doesn't just hit democrats or republicans. it hits every family. and so that's why fred and i really decided to team up and make this big bipartisan effort. everybody is happy about it because we've had such a fight with the midterm elections and so much partisanship. >> we have all heard it because all families are affected by disease. frustration with fda approval process. it seems to take so long. >> i bet every family in the country has seen it in one form or another. to joe's question congressman, where does it take so long and how can one law change all that? >> we've been working for the last year really listening to all of the different stake holders from the pharmaceutical industry to nih and all disease groups asking them what can we do as legislators to streamline this process because we know if

we can shorten the time for approval, we've lost half of the venture capitalist investing in america have gone overseas because they're so frustrated with the process here. >> it takes up to ten years and a billion dollars to approve a new drug. here's what happens. you have a researcher at the university of colorado, and they do a patient study and they want to collaborate with one at the university of michigan so they have to go then do a second study there with a different set of requirements and everything like that. and then they have to move along like that. finally they make their application to the food and drug administration. that takes months or years and more millions of dollars and it just goes on and on because the systems we set up -- for example, we didn't have electronic medical records. now you can have people put

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>> my gosh. >> what a beautiful day in new york city. welcome back to "morning joe." a chamber of commerce day if you're in south florida and tired of 80-degree weather, we have the answer for you. let's go to the plaza. >> joining the conversation, president of the council on foreign relations richard haas and editor at "the fix" and jonathan capehart. we have a lot coming up. we'll talk about keystone and putin. may he have left early giving everybody the cold shoulder. bill cosby in the news. the allegations bubbling up again. an awkward moment on the radio with allegations of rape. surprise dea inspection of the

nfl. federal drug agents are interviewing team doctors in several cities following a lawsuits from fellow players who claim trainers routinely offered illegal pain medication to cover up injuries and keep them in the game. the search targeted teams traveling across state lines to play. the 49ers, buccaneers, seahawks among the organizations subjected to the random searches. no arrests were made. a 2011 study suggested 52% of retired players said they use prescription pain medication during their careers. nearly three-quarters of those say they misused the drugs and many were still abusing the pills at the time of the survey. >> any surprises here? >> this is all about a class action lawsuit. 1,500 former nfl players filed against the league say trainers who cannot give prescriptions in many locker rooms were giving out painkillers who guys could keep playing. >> were you surprised this went

on? >> why would anyone be surprised? >> everyone knew this has been going on for a long time. >> moving on now. we have got -- >> not condoning it. no one is a bigger fan of the nfl than i. >> thank you for that clarification. >> especially in the past. my eyes were open the first time when i was in high school football. we had a guy that played for the houston oilers. he was a star and he would hobble. could hardly walk. the older nfl players you see, the more you realize they are literally crippled from the days in the nfl. >> as the dea ever showed up in an nfl story before? >> first sweep that we're aware of. >> this could have been done years ago. >> how about the old cortizone shots. if you tore up your knee, they would numb it up and play on it the rest of the game. >> supporters of the keystone pipeline may be just one vote

away of passing the project in the u.s. senate but no sure thing. even if legislation does make it to the president's desk. senator dick durbin says it doesn't appear to be going anywhere inside the white house. >> we were one vote short as we left last week, but i know they are burning up the phone lines and e-mails trying to find that vote to support the procedural move. i don't know how successful they've been. every indication is the president will veto an attempt to preempt the regular process of reviewing the permit for this pipeline. i think that it should go through the orderly process. the republicans believe that the president's power should be taken away. it should be moved on a fast track. remember, the oil that's going to flow through that pipeline will not be used in the united states or reduce gas prices in the united states. it will head down to the gulf and be exported to other countries. >> mark, you are shaking your head just as i am.

their own state department says it will create 50,000 new jobs and there's more environmentally sensitive than using alternate means. this is such a bone to throw to billionaires. i'm embarrassed for them. this is an interesting way to start the lame duck session. you pass keystone. >> i wouldn't have predicted it when the election happened. keystone will get a vote within two weeks. >> do you think the president is going to veto this bill that his own state department says creates jobs and is more environmentally sensitive? could they just be right now sort of negotiating circling each other? >> yes. they could be negotiating, joe. i mean, look, anything can happen. if the bill does pass the senate house, nothing big passes. he has to look at it.

he's taken years and deferred to the state department this is not a matter for congress. it crosses international lines and this is a matter for the state department. it seems to me -- obviously i see things through a political lens. it seems to me this season attempt by mary landrieu to say i still have power. i'm not going to be the energy chairman if i get re-elected but i have a lot of power and i can make this happen. i don't think the president is going to defer to the mary landrieus of the world on this. you're right. anything in washington can be positioning. i'm skeptical after the years he spent postponing and deferring to the state department all of a sudden after the election because mary landrieu needs to share power before the september 6th runoff, the state department creates jobs and more environmentally sensitive. >> one is canada.

very much wants prime minister harper as a big thing. this is one of the ways he looks at the u.s. relationship but also we're trying to get the germans to rethink the ban on nuclear power and get french to rethink their ban on fracking. if we won't step up and do this. where do we have the authority on getting a serious energy policy. this is not a domestic political issue. this has consequences. >> why has this become such an emotional issue and such a symbolic issue for many on the left. >> because of climate change. because there are a lot of people on the left who believe that the nation is dependent and world dependence on fossil fuels is something that should be diminished. so they don't want keystone pipeline to be built. they are concerned about the environmental impacts. one thing i would like to question and i'm asking this as a question and the 50,000 jobs number keeps going out there. i wonder is that 50,000 jobs to

construct the pipeline and then once the pipeline is constructed, how many permanent jobs will the keystone pipeline create? does anybody actually know that answer? >> i don't know. i think maybe we need to ask those who support the project. >> just to be clear, this energy will be produced. people are arguing this on a climate change basis. this is just politics and symbolism. this will not affect in any way -- >> it has come to symbolism. this oil gets shipped no matter what. it's whether you want to ship it the safest way. >> and, joe, look, to richard's point about the politics of it. there's a reason that all of a sudden out of nowhere -- we've had this keystone debate for a while. there's a reason that out of nowhere two weeks after the election and 2 1/2 weeks before mary landrieu is in a runoff, there's a reason that it came

up. it didn't just come up accidentally. regardless of what you think of the policy, the reason it is being debated and will be voted on the senate is because mary landrieu is in a runoff she'll try to win. >> russian president vladimir putin is pushing back on reports that he left the g-20 summit in australia early. >> i think he was upset. >> because of widespread criticism from world leaders. when putin offered a handshake to canada's prime minister, he responded by saying i guess i'll shake your hand but i only have one thing to say to you. you need to get out of ukraine. >> wow. >> okay then. >> that's tough talk. >> putin says he left early to catch up on sleep because he wanted to be rested. >> it's hard to sleep at those summits. bands, poker. >> moscow was condemned for their actions across the ukrainian border and president obama said he won't hesitate to

slap more sanctions on the kremlin if it continues to inject international principles. >> one of those principles is that you don't invade other countries or finance proxies and support them in ways that break up a country. at this point the sanctions that we have in place are plenty good. >> what else is on the table? what else is the united states do before slap more sanctions? >> the problem with slapping more sanctions unless they are on the same page becomes a problem. also you have a big sanction called lower oil prices. we can beef up nato. this is the time to increase military presence in some of the surrounding nato countries. this issue has been debated for six months now. the president is not on the same page as many advisers. we should strengthen ukraine because restraint is not

working. >> why don't with double down in poland? we walked away from a deal with poland at the beginning of the obama administration. let's just go back. >> this is an opportunity and necessity here to make nato stronger. nato has been reduced to something of a rhetorical allian alliance. it's time to make it a real a y allian alliance. >> doesn't it give him more power at home? >> he'll play the nationalist card no matter what. what we have to do is reduce incentives or opportunities for him to use force and get away with it. >> so he can send troops into ukraine. we can't do anything about it. we can put troops in poland and that is an embarrassment to vladimir putin. he can play the nationalist card but at the end of the day he can't do anything about it. we can put 100,000 troops in poland and the poles would love it and that would be -- you talk about a thorn in his side and a national embarrassment. a lot of other presidents would

say, okay, vladimir, every troop you put in the ukraine, we're going to put one in poland. go. this president -- >> is he going to go into poland? >> i worry about smaller countries. >> he could try to do the same kind of undermining. he doesn't have to invade to intervene and interfere. >> the reason to think he would is we're not doing what we're talking about. we're talking about sanctions that the europeans aren't going join us in again. if you want to hurt putin, embarrass him and also help an ally that we turned our back on in 2009 in poland and beef up their military structure. >> begin the process of reducing european energy dependence on russia. that's a long-term proposition. take the initial steps now. >> in just a few hours, the parents of the american worker

beheaded by islamic state militants will speak at a news conference. u.s. officials say they have authenticated a graphic 16-minute video from isis which revealed that 26-year-old peter kassig was executed. he's the fifth american hostage to be killed by isis. the former army ranger was kidnapped during an aid mission in syria. kassig's parents say he converted to islam during his captivity. in a statement, president obama said it was an act of pure evil. and joining us now frommist tur richard engel. >> reporter: do we expect to hear from kassig's parents. they did an interview last month with nbc news and wanted kassig to be remembered for his humanitarian work and that he went into syria, he decided to change his life. he had been a soldier and served in iraq in 2007 and decided he

would come to syria to help victims of violence. he was volunteering as a medic and then just over a year ago, he was driving through syria with an aid convoy trying to deliver some supplies and was stopped at a checkpoint and kidnapped by isis and then has been held in captivity for just over a year. there are reports he endured physical torture. he certainly had the psychological torture of watching cell mates of his, some of them go free. the european cell mates were released after their governments paid ransoms and sometimes millions of dollars per person or he had to watch other american and british cell mates taken out and murdered one by one. a terrible thing that anyone would have to endure and then to have it publicized on the internet. the family has made one request of the media that we don't broadcast the isis video so that we do not further the isis

propaganda and we are respecting that wish. >> of course. richard engel, thank you very much. >> where do we stand on our fight against isis? are we making any headway at all? >> probably a little bit inside iraq because the combination of american airpower and you have imperfect local partners. >> does the president need to do more? >> sure. he's already doing more. doubling of u.s. forces in iraq gradually these forces will take on a larger role. what he's going to have to figure out is whether we can find or develop partners in syria to do something. right now we're doing a small number of air strikes. it's creating some space but then who fills the space. >> military upset the president is not doing more? >> you see public pressure on military. we can't keep saying no boots on the ground. you have to have a strategy. if it involves slightly more american presence, so be it. >> richard, we were talking last week about turkey.

not a good ally these days. i say the worst ally in nato since the late '60s trying to figure out what side he was on. in this case, if turkey is going to be such a bad ally, why don't we beef up support for the kurds. why don't we tell the kurds we support a kurdish state in northern iraq. and do whatever can be done because of that. we don't have to send american troops to fight for their land and take it one piece at a time. give the kurds the north. we're in anbar province in the west. would that not cut isis off at the knees? >> at the risk of agreeing with you, i believe we ought to support what i call a mini kurdistan. a kurdish state inside of iraq and syria and not a kurdish state that would also include turkey and iran but right now the syrian and iraqi border is irrelevant. both of these states are breaking down.

the kurds are the only partners we have. i believe the time has come to support a kurdish entity within what has been iraq and syria. we would work with them politically, economically and militarily. it will make turks unhappy but at the moment what they are doing and not doing has put us in an untenable position. >> still ahead on "morning joe" -- >> i'm sorry you had to agree with me. >> won't let it happen again. >> new allegations of torture and the lies that covered it up. general michael hayden responds to that and also actor matthew goode joins us with a preview of the new film "the imitation game" which is getting a lot of oscar buzz. first, another woman comes forward with claims of sexual assault against comedian bill cosby but now cosby's lawyer is firing back. that story next when "morning joe" returns. you probably know xerox

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>> i just don't think you take things off the table. i don't think you say that we're going to destroy isis when the president says, for instance, that isis is a cancer. it must be eliminated. he's right. but you don't say we're only going to use the following tools in doing so. you say we're going to do whatever it takes and hopefully we'll be able to do that with other people's troops but if it takes our own troops, you don't take that as a source of our strength from the battlefield. >> that was mitt romney yesterday morning and joining us now from washington, former head of the nsa and cia, retired general michael hayden. let's take up governor romney's point there. you said something not entirely unlike that over the weekend talking to richard engel which is that it might be time to start talking about ground troops and putting people in and not a land war you're talking about or an invasion but

somebody on the ground, somebody being the united states troops. do you still back that? >> sure. and richard a few minutes ago talked about this being two theaters of operation, one in iraq where we're making some progress and then syria, not so much. let's take iraq first. you know, american forces are not allowed to be with iraqi forces below the level of brigade headquarters. nobody is talking about american maneuver brigades operating in the iraqi desert but we're talking about embedding forces farther forward to provide the kind of support, advice, stiffening and then calling in precise air strikes to make this easier to do than it has been to date. >> mark halperin? >> we were talking earlier about turkey. does the united states have any leverage over turkey to get them to step up as a nato member to do more to support the kurds and let the kurds be a bigger part of the fight and provide their

own military to deal with isis? >> it doesn't look as if we have a great deal of leverage. the kurds have turned the calculus on its head. we see the threat as isis followed by assad and kurds not a threat at all. the turks view the kurds as a greater concern followed by assad and isis. we're coming at this problem in different directions. once again, i agree with richard. we should double down on the kurds who have proven themselves to be our real friends in the region for decades. >> so you actually have some cover for agreeing with me. >> i do. >> you are clean. go and say no more. you have a question for the general? >> for mike hayden, michael, what about syria though? how do we avoid a situation where we use airpower and the groups that benefit from it are either the assad government or the almost as radical isis

groups? what do we do in the absence of anything that looks like a near term ground partner? what's your thinking about that? >> it's kind of the problem from hell and frankly we've created it a bit by being so late to the party. we had options earlier to support moderate opposition if such exists. that's really hard to do now. i think right now what we do is contain and punish isis and kind of treat syria the way we've treated the tribal region of pakistan for the better part of a decade. you're right. over the long-term, that doesn't solve the problem. it just buys us time and space and we're going to have to create some sort of ground force in syria. and at some point, we may have to declare the bashar al assad government our enemy here as well. >> general, you and i have talked for some time about the

cia getting blasted for interrogation techniques that classified information shows works and history will show has worked quite effectively. this past week a blockbuster report was put out where we actually get to hear from somebody deep inside the program. we've heard from the media that has been against the program. we heard from democrats who are for the program before they were against the program when it went public in "the washington post." we've heard from fbi agents who never, ever engage in interrogation techniques attacking the cia and the cia has not allowed to tell the truth about the program. i'm sure you have seen this "weekly standard" story how important is this in the first step of americans getting a full picture of how we have been fighting this war against terror? >> well, joe, i think it's a very important step. i did read the entire document

that this officer is using about 40 pages. some of it redacted. a fair amount redacted. >> too much. >> what he says there is consistent with what it is i saw as director of cia. >> which is what? summarize that. >> which is that these tactics, techniques and procedures actually work in gaining valuable information. look, leon panetta who has no dog in this fight has said that we got important and even critical information from cia detainees against whom these enhanced interrogation techniques have been used. the white house press spokesman when pressed about the relationship between the cia program admitted that interrogation of these detainees was at least one of the important threads that led us there. honest men can differ.

a noble position is i still don't want you using these techniques. it's inconsistent with my values. whether or not they succeeded is historical fact. that's not opinion. >> that's always been my point. you don't like it, if you would rather drop a drone bomb and kill 30 people and a family including grandmothers and young 4-year-old girls and have them blown to a thousand pieces. if that helps you go to sleep at night better than having someone seize the one terrorist that committed the operation then taking them out and getting information from them, if that's your twisted moral code, you can live by that but you can't say it didn't work and that's what this piece points to. i have to say something that's been one of my pet peeves. it talks about a briefing in 2002 with nancy pelosi. we heard this reporter when he was at the cia and we heard it from different people and now from an agent that was in the

room when nancy pelosi was briefed in 2002 and had absolutely no problem with it and this agent just says she out and out lied later on by suggesting she had not heard this. weren't these democrats briefed in full from the very beginning about what was going on? >> the record at the agency shows quite clearly that they were and again, leon panetta, democrat, actually a friend of congresswoman pelosi, stood his ground and stood the agency's ground when this was a big story in 2009 and 2010 and said the record was quite clear. the leadership of congress was briefed. you can blame us for not briefing more members of congress and in fact that was probably a mistake on our part. the leadership of congress was briefed in accordance with law. >> what do you think happens when the new republican majority comes in regarding the report

and this debate? >> word on the street is the report will drop between thanksgiving and christmas. this thing has been sliding now for six months. i need to call your attention to the fact that when this report is made public, the cia rebuttal and the republican minority report will also be made public. so out of a sense of fairness, i recommend to everyone before they rush to judgment that they read all three documents. >> general, in the age of isis, what responsible government agency would release this report now? >> joe, there are already press accounts, which i believe to be quite accurate, that american embassies and other installat n installations around the world have been warned to take defensive action in anticipation of this report being released. that is somewhat troubling. >> that is troubling. thank you, general. we greatly appreciate it. >> general michael hayden,

thanks for being on. >> why release these reports now? what good does it serve to release these reports now? if people believe that it is more morally right to drop drone bombs killing entire families instead of snatching one person out and waterboarding three people over the course of a decade, that's their business. why release it now and put more american lives in danger? >> your last statement is the kicker here. it's not as though everything is over or we have the opportunity or luxury of historical reflection far from the battlefield. this stuff is still ongoing. if we release this stuff, it will be used against us. >> all right. up next, rave reviews and an all-star cast make "the imitation game" an early favorite at next year's academy awards. we'll talk about the film next on "morning joe." [ male announcer ] some come here

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>> luckily we have them here. we're trying to get them fully caffeinated so they can do this interview. >> wake up. >> where's my coffee? >> they wanted a bowl of white m&ms in their dressing room. white orchids. we saw this clip from the soon to be released film "the imitation game" and joining us now is matthew goode and alan leech. >> people don't realize this historically is one of the great battles of world war ii even though it was fought underground. there was no glorious moments where a guy saved all his bodies. this fight to break the german code was. >> they say it ended the war two years earlier saving 14 million

lives. when i came to the project, i was so surprised i didn't know more about this man and the work that was done. >> wasn't he the father of -- >> there's your coffee. >> he was the father of modern computers. >> that's one of the great things he achieved. he realized he had to fight. there were 156 million possibilities each day and he realized he had to fight a machine with a machine so the machine he created, which is called the bomb was probably the first and what was the first computer. >> how do you take us through this? obviously we're not -- people aren't going to sit and watch the show about computing anymore than they would watch a show about a bunch of rich old people living in a castle. the day the "titanic" goes down. so how does it work? >> this movie is a brilliant

script dealing with the work he did and it deals with his whole life and childhood and up to his untimely death. he was convicted of being a homosexual. and sentenced to a program of medication. >> he wants to continue his work with a machine. the film concentrates on the distinct areas, one at school and one when he was a boy and then in between 1939 and '45 and then in '52. >> we see the clips there of that role there played by benedict. >> he's not bad actually. talented young man. he may have a career ahead of him in this acting game. it's a towering performance. >> amazing job. >> you are getting oscar buzz. have you heard this?

>> yeah, we have. >> it's not bad? >> it's great for the story. we want to tell the story of a life of a man who isn't known as well as he should be. if they are talking about oscars, they are talking about that and we've done our job. >> is it more of a human drama and story of his life and especially the end than anything else? >> it really is. >> more than a war story. >> it's a human story more than a war story definitely. >> and it's a story about outsiders and how it's all right to think in a different way and be different because this man was able to achieve greatness and to save lives even though his government let him down. he's always been let down. >> matthew, how late were you up last night? >> you guys are funny. >> he's great. you just look so tired. you're not used to getting up this early. >> i turned lights out at 11:00 and one was quacking at 1:30

this morning. >> she's not my favorite. the older one is my favorite. >> thank god. >> my wife and kids were there. >> i wasn't there. benedict in the middle. it's a big bed. >> so they got this great film coming up but they have great tv shows. we have matthew on "the good wife" and alan coming back. he's going to take it. >> the irish troublemaker takes over the entire place. >> that's really been an incredible thing. people are saying for two seasons you have to see it. i'm busy. i'm going to watch a pbs show. >> it takes you right in. >> is sucks you right in. >> did you hear the news? this guy is joining us.

>> like a parasite i attach myself. >> are you a suitor for lady mary? >> he just can't do it. >> she's got a lot. >> i think you're going to hook up with lady mary. i think you're going to hook up with her. that's why you're going to hook up with her. >> it's like the season when jr went dead on dallas. all of the twists. >> i love these guys. these guys are great. >> we'll sit here in the background and judge you all. >> it's good to see you guys. thank you so much. congratulations. >> thank you for having us on. >> willie was saying that he and his son were watching "gho

"ghostbusters" you'll have your children rediscover films. one of our co-hosts was talking about taking his children through old films and i have my 6-year-old boy, hi, jack, going through all of the "star wars." all of the "star wars." it was great. >> no. >> you know, i went back and saw one, two and three and we were all way too tough on one, two and three. you will be shocked. i saw one at the theater like everybody else. then i saw two. saw three. went back and looked at them. they're good. >> are you a favorite of ja jaja binxs. >> no. outside of that, great stuff. even mcgregor.

holy cow. we'll see you soon. "the imitation game" will be released on november 28th. great movie. you want to see it. thank you so much. >> thank you for having us on. >> you guys are fun in a low key subtle kind of way. >> caffeine will kick in any second. >> still ahead from "pirates of the caribbean" one of the most bizarre hollywood speeches you'll ever hear. >> he may need caffeine. >> he's tired. ameriprise asked people a simple question: in retirement, will you outlive your money? uhhh. no, that can't happen. that's the thing, you don't know how long it has to last. everyone has retirement questions. so ameriprise created the exclusive.. confident retirement approach. now you and your ameripise advisor can get the real answers you need. well, knowing gives you confidence. start building your confident retirement today.

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>> one of those nights. and then it goes viral. >> jack spare sparrow. hitting the hooch or something. bizarre speech. >> someone should have gotten him off. >> introducing the manager -- >> we've had mike meyers on. a great, great -- >> you saw the cutaways. mike myers reportedly said that depp's remarks were very, quote, rock and roll. >> i would have taken him off stage. >> live tv. >> just walk him off stage because he's drunk and high and whatever else, i mean -- >> for all of us, it got our attention because we were thinking our ifbs were dropping out. that's them bleeping him because of the profanity. >> just drunk for the night. >> dea should have gone to the green room. >> maybe he just had a drink

before. >> maybe the prompter dropped out, those things. you've got to always have your scripts, johnny. >> wouldn't you want to get somebody off stage in that situation? >> maybe he had low blood sugar. i get goofy when i have low blood pressure. >> i know, if he had a snickers. taking a quick bite. >> a fun size. boom, the sugar would have -- >> back in it to win it. >> that's what julie andrews always sings. just a spoonful of sugar. >> ♪ helps the medicine go down ♪ that's a perfect segue to sports. >> i don't get it but go ahead. >> what was expected to be a shootout between quarterbacks, brady, luck. running back gray stole the spotlight rushing for four touchdowns. brady added a pair of td passes in the second half. freights beat colts 42-20. >> just some genuinely bad tackling. >> st. louis. we've got shawn hill making his

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it's 8:00 a.m. on the east coast, 5:00 a.m. on the west coast. we have mark halperin, dorian lauren and adman mohadin. >> how did vandy do? >> they had a bye week. next week, to mississippi state. >> oh, very angry group of bulldogs. >> mississippi state should still be in the playoffs. >> there's no doubt about it. >> one loss. >> outrushed us. no doubt about it. how was your weekend, mark halperin? >> it was excellent. thank you very much. i activated my iphone 6. >> that's exciting. >> long delay. it is for me. 6 or 6 plus. i'm going to show you a picture i took with it. it relates to one of the guests on today's program. >> i was in dallas, texas. it was colder in dallas than it was here. >> what? >> really? >> it can get cold. >> the vortex. all right.

we've got a lot of different news coming in from washington across the world and washington especially. it's -- i guess it's good news. bad news, maybe it's good news, mixed news, bad news. a lot of stories about obamacare. and steve rattner has a piece on wages in "the new york times" we'll get to. enrollment in the affordable care act is under way again. secretary of health and human services says 100,000 people submitted applications on saturday, the first day of open enrollment. she said about 1 million people have been, quote, window shopping and in a new poll about 7 of 10 americans rate their coverage under obamacare as excellent or good. that's comparable to people enrolled in other forms of health care. >> it's one of the reasons we led with this story. there's been a problem with the rollout but a lot of people have said all along, if americans like obamacare, if obamacare

works for them, if it makes their life easier if it costs them less, the majority of americans, then it will succeed. it will survive. it will thrive. you look at this poll. i must say, this poll caught me by surprise this weekend. >> at how popular it is. >> for the people who actually enroll, that over 70% of the people like it. >> there's two big questions i think going forward. one is will the losers in this become people who lose access to credit doctors, whose premiums go up, will their voices be as loud as the winners, people happy with the program? the cost measures have not kicked in in full. if this controls costs for the comes and individuals, then i thing it will be popular. >> one of the things that's fascinating, back in 1993, 1994, the clintons were talking about health care reform. at the time, medical inflation was just exploding. the mere talk, the mere talk of

a very rigid health care reform system actually lowered. some people say it was a coincidence. perhaps it was. but suddenly, everybody, the insurance companies, the big health care corporations. suddenly their costs started to go down. the same thing happened when obamacare was debated. even before it was passed. suddenly, we saw medical inflation slowing down. you almost get the sense they're, like, saudi sheikhs and they're fixing prices. i know that's a legally freighted term. health care inflation has exploded over the past 50 years. the two times it slows down, it's not when legislation passes but when the threat of legislation comes up. >> it affects the whole market. the other big piece of this, which we saw in vivid display yesterday, was silvia matthews burrwell is really talented.

i went to college with her. she is focused. she wants this to succeed. more than her predecessor, i think she's been given the authority to make this, implement this and make it work and so far it is. >> willie, it's an interesting quandary for republicans. small government and republicans whose top issue is the debt. where, again, medical inflation, i want to state this again, so people won't get too excited this early. it was slowing down during the debate down to, like, 2%. and noted while that year and a half debate was going on how much it had slowed down. if you were a small government conservative, do you really want to say -- not that you'd be able to -- we're going to get rid of this whole thing and maybe see how the costs explode back up again because the threat's gone

and the saudi sheikh decided they can control costs better? or do you just -- all the things that are offensive to you because of liberty and freedom and individual choice and -- you just -- i think it presents republicans, small government republicans, an interesting question. >> yeah. if you see polls like this come out again, and we saw they're happy with the coverage as well, it is people who enrolled in it, more than 70% happy with the coverage. this is what the obama administration has said all along. he said yes, we were terrible with the website. and the political side of this, would argue, is something different. jonathan gruber and the rest of it. they said if people like the coverage, let's see how it plays out. this is the first indication that some people who have it seem to like it. >> willie mentioned the name that shall not be mentioned in the white house. gruber. could be good news except for the fact that jonathan gruber, i guess he did this just sort

of -- >> in three videos. >> some people golf. some people go around calling the american people stupid. mr. gruber should have picked up a 9 iron. >> you've never done that. >> i don't call the american people stupid. >> you call other people stupid. >> i say the american people always get it right. at the end the day, the american people always seem to get it right. mr. gruber doesn't think so. >> he said in three separate videos at least, he suggested a lack of transparency and stupidity on the part of the voters contributed to the law's passage. david axelrod tweeted this. as one who worked hard to make aca and its benefits clear, let me say if you looked up "stupid" in the dictionary, you'd find gruber's picture. the president also reacted yesterday from across the globe. >> i just heard about this. i get well briefed before i come out here. the fact that some adviser who never worked on our staff

expressed an opinion that i completely disagree with in terms of the voters, is no reflection on the actual process that was run. we had a year-long debate, ed. i mean, go back and look at your stories. the one thing we can't say is that we did not have a lengthy debate about health care in the united states of america. i think it will -- it's fair to say that there was not a provision in the health care law that was not extensively debated and was fully transparent. >> mark halperin, that -- that statement just begs for so many swift and pithy rebuttals. i go to you. >> yeah, i think the president -- >> was it transparent, was he speaking the truth there? >> if you like your doctor, you can keep him. i don't think we had a full debate because a lot of people lost access to their doctor. some people have been losers.

>> also, if you like your plan, you can keep your plan. that ended up not being true. >> your prep yums won't go up. that's not true for a lot of people. we didn't have a full and transparent debate. >> you got to blame mitt romney for part of that. >> okay. >> he was not able to lead a full debate because he passed a plan incuffed him a little bit. >> you're talking about during the 2012 election. >> either time. either time we didn't have a full debate. >> the president is back from a week long trip to china, myanmar and australia. president obama's jumping right back in to domestic politics. it appears the president will make immigration his number one priority this week with several meetings with top advisers on the books. it is believed the president will grant legal status to millions of undocumented workers through an executive action, an issue former president bill clinton says could have made a difference at the polls just a few weeks ago.

>> there was a collapse of the youth vote. the african-american vote held fairly steady and was remarkable, given we had a little bit of a loss of the hispanic vote. perhaps because the government didn't issue the immigration order. it was a tough call. had he done so, the others would have lost even more. it was a difficult call. >> so was it the president's fault for not leading with immigration during the campaign? >> i think president clinton is right. i think the politics could have benefited the president and democratic party led. and not disappointed the activists in the immigration communities that expected action before the election cycle. >> not all democrats agree. senator mccaskill says she's not crazy about the president taking an executive action on immigration before saying if house speaker john boehner doesn't like it, he should bring

the senate's immigration bill to the floor for a vote. one of mccaskill's republican colleagues in the senate is leaving the door wide open for a government shutdown. senator john thune says the president is playing with fire by taking the issue of immigration into his own hands. >> i think republicans, chris, are looking at different options about how best to respond to the president's unilateral action, which many people believe is unconstitutional, unlawful action, on this particular issue. but my concern is, i don't -- shutting the government down doesn't solve the problem. my concern is what happens if we end up shutting down what could be a record legislative accomplishment that's there for the taking. if the president would chose cooperation instead of conflict. >> willie, the door wide open to possible government shutdown? and that coming from john thune, the guy who doesn't like go around -- >> i was going to say a reasonable guy talking about -- that was two weeks after the election when we had peace and harmony for a couple of days and

now we talk about government shutdowns again. >> i think it has to be taken off the table. they have enough power. they have enough authority. they run the house. they got the checkbook in the house. they have a lot of power in the senate. they can do a lot of things and still be able to say no, there will never be another government shutdown. no, we will not do that. no, we will not play with the faith and full credit of the united states of america. the answer is no. but we've got 1,000 other things we're looking at. the answer, republicans. always no. government shutdown. no. okay. i've been there. put my hand on the stove. ahh! and you were there. not so long ago. and you may remember, your approval rating dropped to the lowest level ever. and if you want to know why the tea party candidates you endorsed did not win in the primaries, it's because you shut

down the government. okay. you shut down the government. you basically killed politically your allies. so mainstream republicans won. and now they control the senate. so we're going to do a little exercise. we're going to run the government. we're not going to shut it down. we've tried that twice. really, the fallout's bad every single time, okay. hand on stove. bad. thank you. i'm done. >> can i ask you a question about immigration? >> sure. >> the white house really defended on the merits the things -- we're talking about putting this to executive order. do you think that would be popular with the american people? >> i think the president can get a -- i think he can get mainstream support for a measured executive order. i really do. i think a lot of americans are

like me. they're here. i like them paying taxes. i like them -- if they're going to be here, because we're not going to go to their doors and kick them down and drag them back to mexico and china. we're not going to do that. we know that. so if they're here, at least legalize them. i would rather cops go after murderers than arresting people who have been here, whose children go to school. and they're not leaving. nobody's suggesting they're leaving, all right. go ahead and give them legal status. right. and three-year work permit and do waver you want to do. and build the border fence like 800 feet high. awesome. i'm all for that. i think the president would probably find that that would be acceptable for a lot of americans. i mean, they're not going. now, listen, here's the deal. if there's a part of that that

leads to citizenship, that's when people like me have a problem with it. because the first thing you do coming to america can't be illegal. but nothing you do illegally can put you ahead of the immigrant from pakistan who wants to bring her husband over here. i mean, it's got to be fair. let's be fair. since they're here, let's face the reality, legalize the status and -- and get them paying taxes into the system. it's a lot of taxes we need. >> one more major headline this morning. in just a few hours, the parents of the american aid worker beheaded by islamic state militants will speak out at a news conference. u.s. officials say they have authenticated a graphic 16 minute video from isis which revealed 26-year-old peter kassig was executed. the third american to be killed by isis it the former army

ranger was kidnapped last year during an aid mission in syria. kassig's parents say he converted to islam. in a statement, president obama said it was an act of pure evil. meanwhile, criticizing president obama's response to the rise of isis. he says the president should not rule out boots on the ground. >> i just don't think you take things off the table. i don't think you say that we're going to destroy isis when the president says, for instance, isis is a cancer and it must be eliminated, he's right. but you don't say we're only going to use the following tools in doing so. you say we're going to do whatever it takes and hopefully we'll be able to do that with other people's troops. if it takes our own troops, you don't take that as a source of our strength from the battlefield. >> mark i think he's running. if jeb bush doesn't, he will.

>> he'll beat jeb bush. i can't believe i'm saying that. if jeb bush runs, that guy will beat jeb bush. i would have never said that. up until -- >> the last two weeks -- >> i think he could beat jeb bush if he ran, but i don't think he'll run against him. >> i think he's absolutely running, without question. >> he does a lot of sunday shows for a guy who's -- >> he looks presidential. he's been if the middle of it. he's been right. you know, jeb's been off the field for a very long time. a very long time. anyway, let's go to amman right now. you knew peter, talk about, if you will, talk about the last time you saw him. >> well, the last time i saw him was actually in beirut just a few weeks before he was ultimately kidnapped. we had a chance that day, myself and a few other foreign journalists, many of them who knew peter better than i did and reported on some of the work he had done in covering the syrian

conflict. we got together. it was a casual day in beirut. we all had lunch. i got a chance to get to see a young man very much driven by what he's set out to do, this organization created to help syrian refugees. he was a person who was at peace with himself, despite knowing the risks and perhaps being the journalist that we were, they were a little bit skeptical about the environment, told him to be careful, watch out who he was working with. he felt he had a very confident network of people he was relying on. the circumstance, of his kidnapping were to us still somewhat mysterious, if you will, but he was a great guy. certainly an individual, very calm, a person who is driven by a great sense of ideals. after several years of questioning all that was happening around him in the middle east, he felt finally he had a purpose in try to help the syrian refugees. >> former army ranger, right? >> he served in iraq too. >> decided he wanted to go back.

>> such a moving line i read yesterday. an aid worker. an article where they said there was a time when islamic radicals actually tried to court journalists and explain. now they try to kill them and behead them. it is a short-sighted nilistic routine that in the end loses, it always does. there was this line in a letter to his parents that was so moving. where he said, don't worry, dad, if i go down, just know that i know the truth, that you and mom love me more than the moon and the stars. he seemed like a pretty incredible guy. incredible guy trying to bring relief to the hopeless. >> and everyone who knew him could feel that. he was very well liked by his group of friends in beirut. very, very respected. >> nbc's tom brokaw joins us on

set with a preview of his new project. and then the gq men of the year. deputy editor michael hani is here. and u2 bails on jimmy fallon and "the tonight show." why their week-long performance is not happening. >> billy karens went down with a ukulele and he'll fill in for u2 all week. >> he might want to try something given his forecast. >> no ukuleles though. dangerous weather across the country. deadly when you take into account all the car accidents we've had. five fatalities in minnesota alone. last night, breaking news was tornado. we know for a fact we had one confirmed tornado go through areas of western florida. this is bluntsville area. that was about 50 miles west tall hou tallahassee. there were cars that were flipped. the fence to the prison was actually damaged.

the people inside were actually safe. we haven't had reports of injuries or fatalities with that tornado. it looks pretty strong. we've seen pictures of cars flipped completely over. you do have a tornado warning. that storm is heading towards you. that's the only active tornado warning we have on the map. if you're in southern georgia or northern florida, this threat will go during the daylight hours today. also, with all the rain up in the big cities, airport delays, they'll continue to be with us all day long. 1 to 2 hour delays from philly up to la guardia. we've had snow this morning. cincinnati schools, a lot of them are canceled. louisville, up to cleveland. with a band of snow on the back side here that's moving to the buffalo area. about 2 to 4 inches. much of the main roads are okay and treated. this is round two that will be coming across the country. already, we're talking indiana, i-74, closed on the southbound lane. there's a bad accident there. one of the highways leading out of indianapolis is not the place to be.

windchill right now in chicago, negative 2. dallas is at 12. colder north korin dallas now t barrel, alaska. it's an upside down weather pattern that continues. that cold and snow is going to be with us for the east for the big cities in the east. it comes in on tuesday. we're going to continue to watch very impressive historic lake-effect snows. buffalo, you have a chance for 2 to 3 feet of snow over the next couple of days. wow. big event. big weather. it feels like the middle of winter. new york city, cold air coming your way tuesday morning. you're watching "morning joe." we'll be right back.

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wonderful. >> los angeles times. a cruise ship has docked off the coast of california after at least 158 passengers and 11 crew members showed signs of norovirus. it's the second outbreak on the same ship this year alone. incidents involving the highly infectious gastrointestinal virus have taken a toll on the cruise industry. recent surveys show a sharp drop of trust among vacationer. >> the irish independent. u2 being forced to reschedule a week-long appearance on "the tonight show" after bono was injured in a bike accident in new york central park. these bike accidents are actually a big issue in central park. the band said the singer will have to undergo surgery on his arm. it's not clear when the accident happened or if anything else was involved. just last week, the rear hatch on bono's private jet came off while landing in berlin. officials say the aircraft was never in danger of crashing.

>> tough week for bono. >> that is a rough week. >> too many bikers going really fast. >> i got to tell you, the bikers. >> a woman was killed. >> where i live up in connecticut, like, these bikers, you can tell they're hedge fund guys. i'm dead serious. they come home and they go, like, 80 miles an hour around blind corners. like i had to swerve with my two children in the back seat. like swerve across or else a guy would have been killed. we were just pulling out of a place and he -- just wondering, do these people have a death wish. it's not cool. even if you're willing to risk your life, it's not cool to make me swerve into oncoming traffic with my children in the back seat because you want the thrill of going 80 miles an hour around blind turns. >> it's scary in central park. i don't know what happened to bono. this might be unrelated. but those same kind of people

flying through the park. then you've got people with strollers and little kids walking around and people out for a jog. it's a dangerous mix. >> new york daily news. a news anchor in australia is drawing attention to the double standards. the host revealed he'd been wearing the same suit for a year and nobody noticed. >> i've done that. >> he says it started as a month-long experiment to see how women on tv are judged far more harshly for their outfits. when he didn't get any reaction after 30 days, he continued to wear the same suit. he received an outpouring of support from users on social media, some of whom called it a strong show of empathy. >> do you think i'm get some of that for wearing the same blue sweater every day? no. >> you have to back sell it for some cause. i know it's because you didn't want to change. >> i slept in it. >> consumer confidence is on the rise as we're just a week away from the beginning the holiday shopping season.

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we have tom brokaw with us. first, breaking news, thomas. >> yeah, let's get right to this. nbc news is able to confirm a doctor being treated for ebola has died at a hospital in nebraska where he was receiving care. joining us live from omaha, nbc news gabe gutierrez. this is a hospital that has been treating successful on treating americans who have contracted this disease. >> very sad news to pass along here. dr. martin solia who arrived saturday from sierra leone has just passed away. hospital officials confirm. he arrived here on saturday from sierra leone. doctors said from the beginning he was in extremely critical condition. any called this an hour by hour situation. doctors say he underwent dialysis treatment and he even received experiment -- the doses of that experimental drug z mapp

but unfortunately he passed away. his wife was by her husband's side. we're expecting to hear more about what happened here. thomas. >> all right, gabe gutierrez reporting that from omaha. thank you so much. so sad. as gabe points out, he returned -- coming to the country in such critical condition. we had seen images of other people coming off and being able to walk off those transport planes. we saw in this case the fact that the the doctor was taken off on the stretcher, not able to walk on his own accord, which only speaks to the condition that he arrived to the u.s. >> unfortunately, tragically, it looks like he got here too late. let's go now to nbc news tom brokaw, he's a native son of south dakota. in a new special on nbc news, he takes us -- nbc sports, he takes us inside one of most beloved past times there. the thrill of --

>> it's going to be on sports channel. 11:00. right after the rangers and flyers on wednesday night at 11:00. i've had this theory for a long time that an important part of the american culture and the economy are opening days and we don't pay a lot of attention to them on the eastern seaboard and the west but opening days of peasant season in south dakota, deer hunting in pennsylvania, ducks in arkansas, minor league baseball in the southeast, friday night lights in texas. we went to south dakota where it is a $200 million a year business now. they've done a phenomenal job of protecting habitat and creating lodges. they bring people in from all over the world literally. i've been going out there for the last 25 years with my dog, that's my dog red, and we did a whole hour of father/son first experience hunting in south dakota. john thune, the senator, was with us on this particular hunt. i said to him, can you run for office and not have a peasant hunting license. he say, are you kidding? >> absolutely not. we see you hunting with ted

turner. >> yes, we also -- he's got 190,000 acres now in south dakota. >> wow. >> he's taken down the interior fencing. he hunts pheasants. he wants to make it look as much as possible like the 19th century. it's all about habitat. he protects prairie dogs. there's my dog. red doesn't want to give up -- >> is ted a good shot? >> it takes a while. he was on his game by the end of the day so we were okay. >> mark. >> tom, just tell us a little bit more about where and how you shot this and who we'll meet besides the two people already mentioned. >> about this. >> who were the other characters in your hour? >> the other character, there is a father/son, cabella and shields, regional sporting goods store. they call it the tan blaze christmas. i brought one back to you. blaze cap. pheasants. they do a great job of conservation.

we have a pep rally at the two stores. then we have the father/son experience. we go to a little place called dallas. which is down in the southern part of the state where they have so much business that they have to bring in girls to help them during that time. and then they have -- parking lot is jammed. there was an effort a couple years ago to shut it down and it lost by a huge margin, by the way. then across the state, the high end lodge is called nelson's farm. that's where dick cheney and a lot of corporate people go. it's, i'm told, and i think it's every reason to be true, that paul has put together the best pheasant lodge in north america. it's expensive but it's phenomenal in terms of food and accommodations and everything else. >> tom, the impact to your state, $141 million. >> well, actually, it's -- i think it's closer altogether to $200 million. they say at least -- >> wow, let's draw a line through that $141 million. we'll go to $200 million.

>> because they're tracking the big impact. but then it's every little town has a pheasant cleaning operation for example. you drop them off. they ship them to you. that's how they've caught up to it all. farmers who lease their land probably are not counted. they lease the land and then some out of state hunters come and say we'd like to hunt on your hand and they say, $1,000 a section. >> isn't it great when a reporter can actually do work on a passion project, something that they love, and then bring it to everybody? >> i grew up with it. it's what i call a religious holiday in the state. from the time i was 12. my dad didn't hunt. so the neighboring guys. and then my friends were a little bit older. took me hunting at an early age. i stopped for a while when we were the shoeing everybody in this country in afc 68. i went back to it when i got a dog. i never miss going out there. it's not about hunting pheasants. it's about reunions with your

friends. then i get to drive across the state and get reconnected to the landscape, you know, everything. >> all right, tom brokaw. thank you. we greatly appreciate it. opening day airs wednesday, after hockey, at 11:00 p.m., on the nbc sports network. tom, thank you so much. >> thanks, joe. >> still ahead, a preview of the week ahead on wall street. befo business before the bell straight ahead. i know what you're thinking...

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a deal that is going to go through and a deal that isn't going to go through. halliburton is buying baker hughes worth $34 billion, this deal, between the oil services sector. this probably has a lot to do with the decline in oil prices. where these companies have to get together and get synergies through combining their business because they're not making as much profits because of the lower price of oil. this morning, we're talking about $75 a barrel, way down from the more than $100 a barrel we saw earlier in the year. and then has bro is not going to buy dreamworks. the toy company cutting off the talks with the moviemaker. in part because has bro's stock got pummeled last week on the rumors this was about to happen. a lot of people, a lot of investors in has bro did not want them owning a movie company. you can spend a lot of money on the directors, the actors, et cetera. then turns out to be a dog at the box office and you can lose a ton. it's very inconsistent. apparently also my colleagues report that there was concern

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>> you two are so adorable. >> we're just friends. >> well, she is. i'm not. >> that's really cute. >> that's a scene from this year's block buster movie "the fault in our stars." featuring ansel algort and shailene woodly. picked for the latest covers of gq magazine for men of the year. >> take us through it. >> we've got six great covers. one of them, ansel right there. michael sam, football player. dave chappelle. steve carell. all of them right here on the new cover. and then there's many more men inside. >> so your question about steve carell is this, in the words of gq, the question, quote, holy crap, is steve carell going to win an oscar? >> i think he could. he's got this new movie "fox catcher." based on the john dupont story. he brought in the wrestling

team. it was this sort of high-end psycho drama. if you're used to seeing him as a funny guy, he trotally transforms himself. >> and dave chappelle? >> dave chappelle back, the guy -- >> where's he been? >> he like went into hiding. >> he's been gone for a while. >> i thought he went off the rails but michael, according to you, he made a conscious decision to walk away from that big payday. >> it's a great story. >> it's a fantastic exclusive interview where he talks a lot about his last years, where he's been. guys like donald sterling, people like that. so it's the first interview in a long time. we're thrilled to have it. >> how'd you get that interview? >> a lot of work. a lot of persistence. we told him we'd put him in tom ford clothes. >> that's always works. >> he's wearing tom ford but each of the other guys are wearing different tuxedos. >> and the girl, shailene woodly, who you saw on the crush of the year. this movie is sort of like "the

titanic" for this next generation. she's the sort of new kate winslet. >> you have some other interesting stories. tilda swinton. who's one of the most fascinating actresses out there. >> the total cam milian this year. she did everything from the wes anderson movie to the crazy train movie. and she's always manages to -- you talk about a chameleon, but transforms herself. fascinating. >> you did a profile on adam silver. >> the new nba commissioner. >> he's making waves. >> but also if you think about this guy, he came in at day one, week one, and had to deal immediately with donald sterling, the fallout from that. just a great transition. >> so -- >> i'm getting a special dispatch from mika. >> mika wants you to talk about the internet mog ul of the year >> it's funny or die. which was in the news last year. started by will ferrell. here's the thing, they started with one crazy video about, you know, getting the little person

coming -- well, the rent check. 3 billion views later. if you think about it, they have one president now, president obama. a year ago went on there to do his obamacare pitch. totally transformed the registration site. so they're making big waves. sort of internet mogul of the year. >> between two ferns. >> between two ferns with zach gal fan knockess. >> they got obama last year. >> so, listen, something that mika talks to mark halperin about an awful lot. grooming mistakes. six grooming mistakes that men make. including having chest hair -- >> is chest hair an invasive species. it sort of can be like kudzu on some of us, just creeping. >> just stop it. >> we're giving you friendly advice on how to tame it all. >> ooh. >> what are some of the six? >> the six is what we call -- >> i don't want to hear these.

>> mojave mouth. which is, you know, when guys have really bad breath. the chest hair invasion. we talk about the half naked beard. you see these guys who somehow don't grow a full beard and it looks a little more like, you know, there's some sort of -- >> just like what's going on there. >> what's going on there. >> what's up with that? >> you tell them to clean it up a little bit so they look sharp? >> you go to page 122 of the new issue. secret details there. >> is it available on newsstands now? >> the deal is, if you can't grow a beard, don't grow a beard. >> that's right. >> if you're going to take the -- >> i'm asking for a friend here. >> too much chest hair? you've got to trim it at the neckline. it should be blossoming over. it's ivy growing up the side. >> do we cover ear hair? >> no, but we will. >> that's a special investigative issue. >> next issue. i'm 42 now. >> do you have a favorite man the year? woz t who's the most fascinating? >> i did a great interview with

jimmy ivy and the founder of beats. previous intercope records. sold their company to apple for $3 billion. >> mogul of the year. >> mogul of the year. so fascinating interview. think an inspiring interview. >> we'll be looking for and cringing at. >> we'll all be well groomed in it. >> you know it's bad when mika's asking for pictures of kate upton. >> just anything but. >> picture of kate upton. >> thanks. >> oh, my goodness. >> you've got shallene here. >> coming up next, what, if anything, did we learn. i'm meteorologist bill karins. a treacherous day everywhere. this arctic blast that moved through minnesota reporting five

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priority. >> really? >> definitely! >> hey, welcome back to "morning joe." that's some funny stuff. >> they had a good weekend on "snl." thomas, what did you learn? >> on a sad note, in the last half hour, we got the news of the passing of the doctor who contracted ebola in sierra leone, passing away, just so sad. >> only 44 years old. >> what did you learn? >> i learned you're like harry s. truman talking about immigration and what should be done. sensible, common sense. >> common sense. >> what's wrong with that? >> that was a long time ago. what did i say? >> you said people aren't going to leave so let's do something sensible about them. >> there you are. it can be sold. >> also on isis. i now have richard haass.

helped the kurds. to hell with turkey. >> three musketeers on turkey. >> i learned we're going to close out this way. if it's way too early, it's time for "morning joe." but now it's time for the premiere of "the rundown." >> which you say is what? >> perfect match of man, moment and mission. >> it's rolling. >> it's right now. >> have a good day, everybody. good morning. we begin "the rundown" with breaking news on ebola. announced that dr. martin salia has died while undergoing treatment for ebola. nbc's gabe gutierrez joins us live with the very latest. >> good morning. this is very sad news coming out nebraska. the third ebola patient treated here at this bio containment unit, doctors confirmed just a