senator mary landrieu says she has the 60 votes needed to advance a bill authorizing the construction of the controversial keystone pipeline when it comes up for a vote today. we'll be watching that one. an architect will [ music playing ] 6r7b8g9s at the g 20 summit, politicians took a break from saving the world. take a look at these three photos that have never shaken hands before. you put your, you put your hand on red and your left hand on yellow. hold on, spin it.

spin it! they took a break posing for pictures holding koala bears, vladmir putin and prime minister tony abbott with koalaings. here's other one with president obama and a koala. apparently kim jong-un heard about this and field bad. so he had his photo taken with a koala. cute. >> oh, speaking of koala bears, joe. >> yeah. >> have you seen willie lately in. >> oh my gosh. i know. so. >> so cuddly. >> let's have some grooming i would id things going on here. >> less than two weeks. the countdown is on. >> good morning, everybody. november 18th. >> with us on set, we have economic analyst steve radner and willie, joe and me. good morning, joe. >> yeah. >> before we get to the fuse,

which is a lot. tammy duckworth. have you seen the story? do you think she should have been able to deliver her vote to the committee? >> there is politics involved. she allowed the vote by problxy what do you think? >> you know, it's not been done before, in this case, you have a woman that's eight months pregnant. you get a doctor who told her she can't fly to washington, d.c., so you can make that exception. a lot of people are criticizing nancy pelosi. the people who are criticizing themselves are all the people who tried to use their situation so they can also cast a proxy vote. that's when nancy pelosi had to say no, people started saying, yeah, i may have a chipped tooth. i may have. everybody came up with an excuse and so hopefully nancy will be,

i don't know, an exception should have been made. it wasn't made. >> it worked in washington now. so they're going to have to just adjust. we'll get back to that. maybe there is more to this story. we are following a developing story this morning out of jerusalem, where two palestinian men stormed a sin go, attacking worshippers inside t. attack left four people dead and at least four more wounded. the two men attacked congress regants inside the orthodoxed neighborhood before killed in a shootout from police. the men were said to be from east jerusalem, fueling one over another. >> people would come to worship god in the sanctuary of the sin knowing, were hatcheted and hacked and murdered in that holy place in an act of pure terror and senseless brutality and

murder. this violence has no place anywhere. >> palestinian president pla mud abbas condemned the attacks while hamas praised them but did not claim responsibility. turning now to obamacare where this morning the washington freebie conhas footage on its website of a 2006 panel discussion featuring then senator barak obama. it includes a sound byte where the future president praises a group of academic, including economist jonathan gruber, who has been all over the headlines recently for say that the stupidity of the american voter happe helped congress pass health care. >> you have already drawn some of the brightest minds from academia and policy circles. many of them i have stolen lit lal

lally my good friend jim wallace who can inform what are sometimes dry policy debates with a prophetic voice. >> president obama was less complimentary when asked about gruber earlier this week. >> i just heard about this i get well briefed before i come out here the fact that the summit adviser who never worked on our staff expressed an opinion that i completely disagree with in terms of the voters is no reflex on the process that was run. >> fact checkers say gruber earned almost $400,000 and earned reportedly $2 million for an ongoing contract with hhs, the national review puts the figure far higher as if 6 million. it lists paychecks to gruber

from a number of states, including vermillion, minnesota and michigan to name a few. david axelrod recently wrote, if you looked up stupid in the dictionary, you'd find gruber's picture. he went on to add one note, his contributions to the ar ca, like governor romney's massachusetts plan were valuable. hills quips were offensive. nancy pelosi recently said she doesn't know who jonathan gruber is, although she touted his work back in 2009. joe. i don't know from to start. he got $103 million from the department of state, many insurance mince, $293,600 from the department of hhs. $1.73 million from the justice department. 2 million $50,000 from the u.s.

national institutes for health. he's a guy that went into the white house i believe to help construct this plan a dozen of times, in fact, the president said he helped write the affordable care act. if these people that are saying every couple days, who gruber, where gruber, horton hears a gruber. they're embarrassing themselves. nancy pelosi saying she has never heard of jonathan gruber barak obama is doing this act. i don't know who tells him it makes him look cool it doesn't it makes him look out of touch. how many times do we hear i was just told about this va ca vasc.

if he were president of the united states he said jonathan gruber for health care reform. i mean, there is talk about taking a one-day story and making it a one-week or two-week story, they should have just come out and said jonathan grubary strong guy, they helped us draft there bill. he's an idiot. there are obvious reasons why he's a tenured professor. because he's an idiot in front of cameras. he helped put together this package. they can't get out of tear way. >> here's the thing. watching those two sound bytes back to back when the president

said he didn't joe is absolutely right. the white house staff, you got to wonder about the staff. you got a smart guy saying stupid things. why they don't say just that, by the way, what is the obsession with taking 10 million people off the health care rolls? >> with the president mentioning his name. i didn't see it. how many speeches or book events where you thank the person or give a nod, have you no idea who they were. he was reading that off the script. it's not so gotcha. >> i have been in situations on a much, much smaller level. on a much, much, smaller level, where you are running for office. but every presidential candidate guess through this.

who are the people you are going to surround yourself with when you become president of the united states and people say, well, you know, colin powell over here and it would be great to have leon panet thta over he. so if you are president of the united states, we will know which direction you are going to go if. steve radner, he brought up jonathan gruber and he did that for a reason because gruber has put together romney care up in massachusetts. he wanted him to put together obamacare in washington, d.c. i think that is a very. i don't want to say gotcha moment. because this is taken care of by the president you know engaging in politics 101 he's a smart guy. he said some stupid things. instead of steve pretending like he didn't even know who he was. >> i think that's exactly the point. jonathan gruber was back in the day in 2009 the guru on health

care as you said, he designed the massachusetts plan for romney i think if you go back and look at the washington post or the new york times times in that period jonathan gruber's fame will be all over it on health care quoted by everybody, who the white house was using mg i don't think we few the dollar numbers he was paid at the time. he was certainly i remember that when i was in the white house, he was certainly viewed as an important figure in helping to put obamacare towing. so it's exactly what you said. the problem is not that gruber helped them put obamacare together. he was the man. the problem is what he said in the last two weeks and how the white house has handled it. >> you can almost hear david axelrod's frustration in that tweet say, hey, guys, this is the answer to the question. he's a stupid guy. he helped write it. he did some good things for us. we condemn these comments. he keens going day after day after more tapes come out. it's not a one-time gap for

gruber. there are six, seven, eight videos where he has total contempt for the american people and can say they don't have toll economic, so we can slip this by him. >> at this point to sort offing a like i don't know who this gruber guy is, it's again just say it, what an idiot. >> i would just say when democrats lost the election, you let me down, guys, just say it. >> it's funny, what willie said is exactly right. when i saw david axelrod's tweet yesterday, it was like, okay. he is pulling out his hair in chicago. he was trying to send a single, guys, say he was really important in this because people aren't dumb. it's almost like the white house thinks people are as stupid as jonathan gruber thinks people are. >> oh, please. >> i'm serious. >> i know. >> by saying if you think can you go out and say we don't know who this guy is when he got paid millions and millions of dollars by the federal government. he was one of the architects of

obama case organizeing for america, you identified him as one of the architects, one of the writers of obamacare. barak obama when he was running for president, said when he wanted to keep people running his administration, it's almost like they agree with jonathan gruber we're all stupid and we're not going to be able to google his name and find all of this. they need to put this behind them. >> okay. we'll start by turning the page right now. because dan says we have to move on. as we have discussed, president obama is reportedly poised to take executive action to keep millions of undocumented immigrants from being deported. but a new poll shows resistance on the part of many americans. 46% want the president to wait until the new congress. top senate democrats, harry reid back the president taking action now, writing a letter, showing tear support. as the new york sometimes notes, the president appears to have evolved about using such broad executive action. in 2013, someone asked the

president if he'd consider taking action to keep parents of minors who qualify for the dream act from being deported. >> young people who have basically grown up here are americans that we should welcome. we're not going to have them oefrt under a cloud, under a shadow. if we start broughtening that, then essentially i would be ignoreing the law in a way that i think would be very difficult to defend legally. so that's not an option and i do get a little worried that, you know, advocates of immigration reform start losing heart and immediately thinking. well, you know, somehow there is an out here. if congress doesn't act, we'll just have the president sign something and that will take care of it. we won't have to worry about it. >> all right. joe, take it. >> what jose said what jose got to president to say in that

interview is obviously going to be something we will be hearing time and time again the president of the united states say figure he took president action in this way he is thinking of doing it now, it would actually be unconstitutional. it wouldn't be legal. it's unconstitutional. it's hard a couple years later to turn around and do the very thing you said two years ago as a guy that taught constitutional law at the university of chicago, this action would be unconstitutional. >> president correspondent, tracy lunt, is there any case this spirals into another shutdown standoff? >> reporter: republican leaders are trying hard to prevent that from happening him i think at this point it would take a set of circumstances to get into that storm again. there is a real recognition basically to lose this fight with the brought is to go into another government shutdown. i will say as joe was pointing out, these comments from president obama are definitely going to be something that we

hear over and over and over again from republicans on the hill and i think we know now that the president is definitely going to go forward with this executive order t. question is the timing. i think it does matter if he decides to come out with it before december 11th when the government fwheedz to be funded or after. but after that point, i think the question is how do the long-term politics of this play. >> do americans get upset that the president is, do they view it as the president going around the law doing something that as he said in that interview with jose outside of the law or is it something that becomes politically untenable to reverse? and the president is clearly betting that republicans are going to decide that they don't want to undo this for fear of angering those hispanic voters that they really need entering the presidential election. >> all right. casey, thanks. still ahead on "morning joe" best selling author tony robbins will be here and then the company that took on fork city

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. >> okay. let take a look at the morning post. in california more than one-fifth of the homeless in the u.s. t. nation finds the high poverty rate is to blame for the increase and domestic violence. >> a "new york times" says an executive at uber should consider apologizing for dig up

dirt on the media last friday. he thought the conversation was off the record and says his comments do not reflect the company's views. suggesting hiring opposition researchers to gather info on the personal lives of his critics. he mentioned targeting a female journalist who accused them of sexism and urged other women to delete the app. michael has been at uber for years. >> take a look at this, a local investigative report in new york city finds a radar system at furyk international airport is often not functioning properly and repeatedly sending out false alarms. the system is supposed to prevent collision as planes come too close to one another. but as jim hopper reports the key safety tool isn't working as intended. >> reporter: complaints about the unreliability of the anti-collision radar fill these daily logs.

one controller noting as dx keeps shutting down, we ask tech ops to shut it down completely. our investigation is found from january to february this year. the radar failed to operate properly. 118 out of 131 days. that lack of reliable may have played a role in the closest of close calls last april at newark when an express jet taking off if a united airlines 737 came within 400 feet of colliding. >> he was real closer. >> we are told the radar did alert be every the near miss but gave little time for the controller to react. the daily log shows the radar again false alerted. just 28 minutes before the close call. >> go, jim. >> wait a second. 118 of 181 day the radar at

newark didn't work? >> willie, that's correct. >> i'm flying out of lagardeia or jfk. >> that is absolutely insane. >> how did that happen and not get fixed. they write it down on a newspaper somewhere. >> the reporting. >> the independent chef gordon ramsay is accusing a rival chef of turning up the heat. >> oh my lord. >> sabotageing his new london restaurants opening weekend. ramsay blames quote haters for booking 100 tables left unoccupied. it says he will now recon firm every registration to make sure it's real. >> the biggest chocolate companies are warning of a coming shortage.

farmers are producing less cocoa than the world consumes, if part because of disease and drouchlt analysts warn we are in the middle of a 50-year streak of chocolate production deficits. last year alone the world ate about 7,000 metric tons more chocolate than was produced. mars, one of the largest chocolate numbers says that number could swell to 1 million by 2020. >> some people say hoard gold. i say hoard chocolate. >> keep it in the freezers? >> m & ms. >> this is the greatest marketing ploy of all times by the chocolate industry. >> i love it. >> well done. the new york daily news one woman going all out to prove her loyalty even if it means exchanging vows with him a. 26-year-old woman is intent on

seek him exonerated. she moved to california almost a decade ago to visit him in prison. now she tells the associated press. >> that's so sick. is that okay for me to say. >> to get access to case information only available to relatives. the woman believes her fiancee is innocent and will get a few trial. >> yeah. >> where are they registered? >> home video? >> no, she's actually an activist trying to get him off and -- >> they are owe glow let's, just, everybody stop. >> no, no, no, they are registered at manslaughterry barn. >> oh. >> no, no, no, we're ending the. still ahead, did president obama lead the country down a path of isolationism that has done irrepairable harm to the u.s.? brett stevens joins us with his new book, also a look at today's must read opinion pages, don't

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opinion pages. you guys, give me the no. >> there was no no. we are talking about pike stanton, juan carlos stanton, $335 million. >> how much is that per game? >> that's a lot of money for a miami marlin. >> boehner's immigration inertia forces obama to act. the only reason president obama has to act on immigration reform is house speaker john boehner won't. i repeat. that's the only reason. on june 27ing, 2013 the senate passed a bipartisan reform bill by a 68 to 32 vote. boehner refuses to bring it to the house floor even though he knows it would pass. most republicans vehemently oppose the measure, which means the vote would come from democrats and a few gop moderates. boehner would incur the wrath of his own caucus. that's his problem.

not president obama's. joe, do you agree with that? >> well, i agree with it. but i think the best way to do that is not to go ahead and sign an executive order right now that you've already said years before would be unconstitutional. i think the best way to do that is what bill clinton would do to republicans, set them up for failure. have this as an open debate. talk about it non-stop. campaign with hillary clinton by your side and every other 2016 presidential candidate by your side that every swing state where hispanic voters will determine who perhaps may be the next president of the united states in a close race and have that debate. i mean, a good politician, a great politician like bill clinton would have his opponents twisting in the wind and actually use there as a great excuse to go out and show just how wrong republicans are on this issue if he believes republicans are that wrong on the issue. most americans right now are

saying, we got a new intrath senate. we got a new house him we got a few group of leaders in washington, d.c. and i think that's one of the reasons they don't want the president to move towards executive action right now. but let it play out for two or three months. make this your top issue. if you think you are right, republicans are wrong, embarrass them. there is no reason he can't sign this in march or april. give him one or chance in the new congress him i think there are a lot of people if you do this in a lame duck session, a lot of people say, wait a second, we just elected a new congress. why is the president rushing and doing this unilaterally. >> dana mill banks right this, purity, politic, democrat style, here comes the stae party on the left on a rainy monday morning, 50 activists stood on the muddy front lawn of the capitol hill home of senator mary landrieu advocateing for the louisiana

advocates deal. one of the leaders was in trouble that so many moderate democrats with wishy-washy positions on oil and gas lost their seats this month. he said a smaller group of uniformly liberal democrats would help his cause. many liberals will now say as republicans did after the 2006 and 2008 defeats that is way back to the majority is to be pug naciously tenacious. steve radner, would you agree with that? >> there is the debate going on in the democratic party. it's grand jury to go on at least until we have a nominee between the more centrist people, myself, including hillary clinton, who think these issues are more complicated. things like keystone are more complicated. then have you the other faction, which elizabeth warren is certainly the most visible member at the moment, who are basically arguing for a pure form of liberalism. i think it's an admirable idea

long. cal commitment. i don't think it's one that will lead to great electoral success. >> why do you think with regard to senator landrieu in the issue of the keystone you just mentioned, the keystone pipeline, oil is already being transported by rail through the pipeline route. why has it become so complex? why this dragging out of this? >> so, keystone is an interesting issue. look, what keystone really comes down to is whether, is an effort by environmentalists to stop the production of the this heavy oil up in canada. that's what this is all about. the fact that transporting by rail is much less safe in terms of transporting it by rail and pipeline. this is all about whether you can stop the production of that oil up in canada. today's oil prices, you can't. even at $79 a barrel that, oil will be produced. mary landrieu's issue is her

gulf coast refineries could really use oil. right now they're processing oil from venezuela, having another source from canada would help her refineries. that's why she wants them. >> still ahead, how income equality will continue to grow. despite our best efforts, steve radner will break that down. first, a nation in retreat t. next guest said the country is headed into an area over on instability and war. instead they set aside their isolationist ways. keep it right here on ""morning joe." ♪ ♪ ♪ let us be lovers, we'll marry our fortunes together ♪ ♪ i've got some real estate here in my bag ♪

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the author of the new book out today "america in retreat, the new isolationism and the coming global disorder." it's really good to have you on board. >> good to be here. >> you set up your case for the american intervention abroad writing this, no great power can treat foreign policy as a spectator sport and hope to remain a global power. the world which the democratic nation does not become a world in which dictatorship contend or unite to fill the breach. americans seeking a run to an isolationist garden of eden alone and undisturbed in the world, knowing neither good for evil will soon find themselves living within shooting range of global pandemonium. only. i'm nervous. joe. >> yeah, hey, brett, let me ask you, obviously the debate between the lefts and the rights, also, you got guys like rand paul that are rising to the top of the republican party. >> yeah. >> do you suspect this will be

the defining moment for a republican party foreign policy in 2016? >> yeah, absolutely. this book is as much a brief against some of what rand paul has been talking about as it is against what some of the obama administration has done. i think there is a new foreign policy divide in the country. it's really between the traditionalists and democrats both democrats and republicans of the post-cold war era and isolationists or neoisolationist, even though they don't often like the term, like rand paul and the progressive members of the obama administration, you talk about nation building at home who think that foreign policy and domestic policy is an either or proposition as if we can. >> right. >> we with have our prosperity here without having security among our allies. >> so greg give us bearings on where exactly you are on the spectrum between say bill crystal, a good friend of ours and rand paul?

i would whoic to think of myself in the middle of that on sort of the weinberger doctrine pell doctrine approach which, of course, both sides wouldn't like. but where are you. >> are you more where powell is or bill crystal is? what is your view? >> i'm probably closer to crystal. look the rob we had in the last decade, instead of assuming our role as american policemen, we became america's priests. we were preaching the pos pell of america's way, changing iraq and afghanistan and determine the composition of their parliament, how they allocate oil, how they develop their schools. that's not really a proper rule for the united states. i don't think it's one we can perform or want to perform. what we should be about is a kund that enforces certain norms, rules of order that basically reassures the people

of the world, israel and taiwan that deters aggressive regime and from time to time punishs a wicked and dangerous country. >> so in the 1990s, i was critical the obama administration is running foreign policy, social policy, critical of interventions in bosnia or kosovo, there are two interventions that actually bill crystal supported. where would you stand on that with your world view and where would america retreats stand on conflict where there is not a direct u.s. interest involved? in there that's true. in a way you can look at the balcan interventions and say they were vindicated. limited u.s. intervention, we didn't have combat boots on the ground, making sure yogoslavia didn't come like syria, you have a multi-sectarian,ment multi-ethnic state.

here in new york we've had a lot of safety less crime because of this broken window theory, which emphasizes interventions at the lowest point before the crisis. it's about maintaining order, not reacting to disorder. >> right. >> the analogy in foreign policy works also. if we had been more proactive in iraq and syria, we wouldn't now be dealing with isis and the metastasizing jihadis. >> steve radner. >> so where do the american people fit into this in the sense when you look at the polls, you take the pulse of the country, they're tired of major interventions, they're scared of major interventions. the defense budget has been cut, maybe inadvertently through the sequestration process. americans are worried about their own resources to deal with their own problems. how do you get the american people in line with your vision of foreign policy? >> i think americans are looking for a goldilocks policy. we realized the freedom agenda the pooridge was too hot.

it was more than we can do. i think a lot of americans, especially after the beheadings in syria, realize the obama approach, which is a dissident approach that pooridge is too cold. we are looking for something in the middle. when i wrote there book, we saw strong polk open six to american intervention. now you see americans realize isis is a problem. the nuclearization of iran is another problem. so this book really if it's anything, it's a brief for the next crop of presidential candidates. republicans and democrats to offer them a foreign policy that is in the middle between those two polls, between rand palm, neoisolationism and the agenda of the last decade. >> let's apply, brett, your goldilocks mentality. we have isis, like you, a lot of people think we have done something sooner in syria.

it does exist the way it does. what should president obama the department of defendant be doing if you say this isn't enough? >> look. what we need to do is deal with isis quickly rather than on the installment plan. the older people i think get the de ja vu all over again. first, there are no boots on the ground. there are 1,500. we feed a kind of a shock and awe company against isis. we need to make sure it's not able to consolidate a ministate, not such a ministate in iraq and syria. a kind of intervention on the installment plan is dow jones to essentially allow them to remain in power. on the other hand, we're not there to rescue anbar from its various problems. we're not there to solve tribal differences. we're there to make an example of isis for other jihadis. that was same with iraq. we went into iraq to make an exam of saddam hussein.

the difference was 4,000 american lives. >> all right. the book is america in retreat. brett stevens, thank you very much. congratulations on your club date. still ahead, senator john hoven explains the best case scenario for getting the keystone pipeline to pass in the senate later today. first, will the results from the mid-terms spark a new leadership in income and equality. is that wishful thinking? radner, is it? >> we'll find out. >> he has the carts coming up when we return. ♪

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it. >> it's gotten worse, what's surprising to me is during the campaign there was little talk about it. there was a study during the campaign which i'll show you a cart which makes the problem ab as clear as it can be and brings it up to date. if you look back between the 2010 and 2013 period, the median average income dropped 5% after adjusting for inflation. if you break it down into to the groups the bottom 4% lost 20% t. next 7% and the so-called middle class lost 6% of their income. when you look toward the higher end, the footballs get smaller, minus 2, minus 3 is. then you get to the top 10% up 2%. >> the top 10%. >> actually had their incomes go up 2%. so this is the picture and this is the most recent data for the

federal reserve. one of the interesting things i came across working on this piece is, fact, the u.s. does less to fix the problem than other developed countries. so few look at this chart here and there is a measure of income and equality called the jd co-efficient. the red bars measure it before the government gets involved. before social security. before transfer of payments, before all. that you can see the united states is actually not that different from other countries like germany, the u.k. and even sweden. we have relatively similar levels of income and equality. once the government gets involved these other countries do much more to level the quality of the playing field. we end up the dust has settled at the highest level of income and equality. >> what are the policies that you would recommend, give me two or three policies that you recommend to narrow this gap.

it's not going to happen over one year or five years. it may happen over a decade, how do we start going back the other way? this is just for people watching, even alan greenspan says this is the greatest threat to american capitalism today. it is. you talk about a sclerosis squeezing off the american dream, stopping upward mobile. this is it. what are the two or three things you recommend we do to tighten the gap on income and equality. >> well the first thing, have you to have revenue, if you look at this last chart, you can see we don't have the revenue, our tax rates, are the lowest of all the developed countries. where it's 32%. the average is 37, within europe it's 46.8. we don't want to be europe. unless you tax people you can't pay for things. there are all kind of other policies, for example, we are the only other major development that does not mandate paid

vacation or paid policies. we have no rules on that. >> no one takes it. >> a lot of people. >> you see on this cart, all these other countries offer, mandate require employers to provide paid vacation and paid sick leave. we don't as a country. >> how does vacation narrow the income and equality gap? >> well, that's a quality of life issue in giving people a chance to have time off and not have to work two jobs and all that sort of thing. >> isn't the problem here really the rich, the super rich, because of a lot of technological changes, the super rich are becoming so much more richer than they were, i mean, you look at ceos even back in the '50s and '60s, now they destroy your company and get paid $150 million in a golden parachute. isn't that a big part of this.

if the super rich keep getting much, much richer? >> the super rich are definitely getting much richer. that's a part of this trend. it's globalization, technological change, all these things that have made it harder for the average american to keep up in terms of getting real ways. so the way we have a address it i think is fixing the problem at the lower end. we can do some stuff among the rich. really, what we have to do is provide education, provide training, provide infrastructure, provide more social support kind of program to help the people at the bottom live a little of a better life. i don't think you can going to solve the problem by just tearing down the rich. i don't think there is enough money there, frankly torque solve all problems. i think you would destroy what makes there economy. >> steve radner. >> jack kevin, thank you so much for that statement. i couldn't agree more. >> translator so excited.

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welcome back to "morning joe." look at the sun coming up over walk. that's where we're going. we got the monument for you as well. thank you very much. gorgeous. >> a beautiful day. >> yes. >> joining us now msnbc director. >> the way we look. >> it's dark here in new york. chuck todd here the host of msnbc, lawrence o'donnell is here. he is complaining, where is his coffee? good who lord, what else do you need? >> we'll get through this. >> we have dana milbanks joining willie and me. good to have v to have you on this hour t. senate is set to vote on the keystone pipeline, it remains to be seen. senator mary landrieu locked in a runoff in louisiana is trying to arm twist herself to 60 votes. landrieu is trying to use keystone to show se can deliver

back home. yesterday protesters set up an inflatable pipeline. meanwhile the version of the bill, republican bill cassidy co-sponsored easily cleared the house. cassidy is bringing in support from jeb bush, phil robertson of ""duck dynasty"" even sarah palen. the gop indicated they are pulling their tv money from the race following a similar move from the democrats. yesterday, senator mark begich conceded defeat. conduct, where is this going? >> i think it's going to be a battle. i'm trying to physical out where they find 15 votes. that's a lot of votes. have you the retiring democrats, leaving democrats. can you do that, you'd assume, physical out how to get to 15? i think there will be some of those democrats, maybe if they thought she could win, they might do it. by the way, i don't know how

this helps. >> i think it only highlights a powerlessness. >> if the republicans weren't already in control of the senate next year, then it would be really fascinating if this was the one that tipped the balance of power in the senate what the democrats would be willing to do. >> chuck makes an important point, though, which is lost, it's not clear how this helps her beat bill cassidy. we take it as gospel. that's just not the case. >> joe. >> she could lose by 9. >> i want to go to dana milbank really quickly. you have an interesting, fascinating column right now in the washington post. you talk about the tea party of the left, which it's just one of those things i love when i read something i have been thinking. but i'm too busy with my crayon to actually write it down. i'm glad you did this hard work for me. but i've heard, you look at what the president is doing, for instance on keystone, it doesn't make sense logically.

it's safer to transport via pipeline than trucks, train, automobiles. then you look at the president going to australia and actually attacking one of our closest allies over global warming. a guy that actually believes in global warming. and it seems bizarre and you have a quote in here that reminds me of jim demint who said i would rather have 30 true believers than a majority. it seems like the democrats now on the issue of energy and on the issue of global warming are pulling their leaders too far left. far away from where the american people are going to be. >> joe, i'm always trying to channel your ideas, if you don't have more, you sends them my way. i'll get right on that case. >> i'll color you are picture. >> drop it in the mail. but, yeah, this was a bizarre scene yesterday. i think it's indicative of where we are right now. so what did this election do?

there weren't many moderate democrats in the house, you lost a whole clunk of what past or moderate democrats are in the senate. so now you do have this core of much more liberal democrats and i am hearing that jim demint lines, beginning to hear it people saying it will be much easier in opposition. we will have a much easier time of messaging, you have the nor equivalents on the left saying it's better to be pure, of course, this is completely wrong in the long term, you can see how the mid-terms reward them. >> you know, lawrence, i believe global warming exists. i believe we got to cut carbon emissions radically but dramatically, i said four years ago, we need cafe standards of at least 40 miles per gallon per

car. so i'm there i'm not a diner. at the same time i look at what the democrats are do. i look at the future. we will be the no. 1 producer of oil by 2020 we got a revolution in natural gas. it's got to bring a lot of jobs back to america. how do democrats avoid tea party by environmental activists, some of their biggest contributors. >> they afternoon. first of all, there is no conceivable grover norquist on the left. no one can come up with a name who has that influence, who gets republican legislators literally to sign contracts. >> tom star? >> but he didn't do it. joe, he didn't do it. he was asked to do it in the case of mary lands rue. he didn't. >> wait, are we suggesting tom starr doesn't have as much as

grover norquist who gave millions of dollars or billions. >> it is inkrabl comprable. this is no one submitting contracts for legislators to sign bineing tear votes forever locking them down on a question forever. no such thing. >> so you are basically saying lawrence you don't think the democratic party will be dragged too far left? >> what have they done? all they've done is keystone the president says he has process he wants to play up there is litigation going on in one of the states relevant to whether this thing can be dropped on the roof. >> lawrence, it defies logic. you know it does. this pipeline makes sense.

it's not going to create a zillion jobs. just on the margins, it's environmentally safer. >> so the environmental lobby have a lock on president obama, they can't get him to say he's opposed to keystone, that's how powerle they are. >> yes, that's how powerful they are. any president faced with there would have signed it easily. we disagree on this, obviously, conduct todd, do you disagree as well the environmental movement is not going to move the democratic party too far left in the coming? because they're going to have to make tough decisions, we got an energy resolution, decisions on fracking, on permitting, on creating a lot of american jobs in the future. >> i think the jury is still out. let's see if they do. this hasn't happened before. there has been some activism in

the democratic primaries on the house level. but not really. we haven't seen the type of activity you are describing with the tea party and the right just yet. i'm not saying we wouldn't. >> i think at the president rnl primary. >> why hasn't the president signed the keystone bill. >>. >> i think on this, i don't know why he's not using it as a bargaining chip. >> on the democrat's side, listen to environmental activists on the democratic side. they are wildly dissatisfied with president obama's administration in their category. they are constantly saying, he's done nothing. that's their refrain. they're disappointed. >> that's what winger has always said about ronald reagan. he was there, he was never conservative enough. he was a moderate squish. of course, that's what extremists do. so you freeze the president.

you know how this game is played, lawrence. >> people are not extremists joe, they are looking at science. they want a certain outcome based on their analysis of the science. i don't think that's extremist. there is an objective they want they aren't achieving. >> that doesn't make them extremists. >> well, do you think that florida is going to be under water in 50 to sfwief to 100 years? are you an extremist. few want to say, there is a difference between being an environmental alarmist and activist. again, i believe if global warming. i believe in climate change. i believe that man has a very big contribution to that. i believe we have to slow down carbon emissions. if i look logically. i have scientists telling me keystone will actually deliver oil to the gulf of mexico in a more environmentally safe way tan driving around in trucks and another, i am going to logically say, well that makes sevenls i will not be an ideologue driven

to an ideologue battle. i will let reason and facts lead the way. i don't think that's happening in this case. >> you sound like a lefty environmental activist. >> i will move to the next level here. >> hold on. can i sip my soy latte? we have run out of soy. go ahead,ab go ahead, mica. >> president obama is keeping dozens of undocumented immigrants from being desported. 46% want the president to wait until the new congress. top senate democrats, including harry reid, taking action now, writing a letter showing support t. "new york times" notes the president evofltd about using such broad executive action. in 2013, jose delaria asked the

president if he considered minors from the dream act from being deported. >> young people who have basically grown up here are americans that we should welcome. we're not going to have them operate under a cloud, under a shad dome. but if we start broadening that, then essentially i would be ignoreing the law in a way that i think would be very difficult to defend legally. so that's not an option and i do get a little worried that, you know, advocates of immigration reform start losing heart and immediatelitying, well, you know, somehow there is an out here, if congress doesn't act, we'll just have the president sign something and that will take care of it. we won't have to worry about it. >> dana milbanks, what's the definition for this reversal? >> they hate when you dig up the video tames. you saw the mid-term election, the huge gap between people who

support the legalization and those who don't and you have a president who feels as if he's out of options on the topic and is actually spoiling for a fight. so i think he is basically set the merits aside. he's not going to worry if there is a ted cruz who is going to become president by fiat eliminate obamacare some day. he is making the only political decision he can right now to keep hispanics in the poll. he'd be delighted to get into a shutdown fight with republicans over this, because he thinks he's winning. i think we are dealing strictly with politics. >> the president said in 2013 the problem is i'm brought of the united states, i'm not the emperor of the united states. he was giving john boehner, congress space to do something. now it's clear they aren't doing anything, it's a strategic

shift. >> he was trying to apply political pressure then. now he is applying a different political pressure now. again i go to the same answers, i don't understand why you don't use it as a barring anything chip. i might sit there and say okay on june 1st, 2015, i'm going to do these ten things and i'm going to act. congress, i'll give you to june 1st. something like that but draw a line in the sand, i wouldules it one more shot as a bargaining chip. i think you get public opinion on your side you are making one last effort. >> i agree completely. i will ask laurps completely. doesn't it make more sense i have the president doing it now in a lame duck session? it just has a lern certain look to it. chuck says, i will do these ten things on june 1st or march 1st and then do what bill clinton did to us, showcase our extremism. showcase how ideological you

were. make us look like we have our feet in the sand. go to florida, go to georgia. go to colorado. these different states doesn't that make more political sense? >> my guess is what the white house and the democrats have calculated is understand u under the as far i don't you laid out, we will no longer be believed by the constituency we are trying to help and whose electoral support you suggested would emerge. when you listen to immigration activists out there now, they like environmental activists have run out of patience, they are incredibly dissatisfied with what president obama himself has done. it turns out what he did for the dreamers now feels like a distant memory to them politically. so it seems to me the white

house calculation is they've run out of patience. if other calculation is if we do this now we have to get it behind us so we can try to build some relationship with the new republicans coming in. let's do it before those republicans come in and take over in the senate. >> let's take a look at another issue the affordable care act the washington freebie conhas footage of the we believe site of the 2006 panel discussion featureing then senator barak obama him it includes a sound byte, where the future president praises academics, including jonathan gruber, who has been all over the headlines saying the stupidity of the american voter helped congress pass health care reform. >> you have already drawn some of the brightest minds from academia and policy circles, many of them i have stolen ideas from liberally, people ranging from robert gordon to austin

golds, john gruber. my deer friend jim wallace who i think can inform what are sometimes dry boils debates with a to havetic voice. that's president obama in 2006. president obama was less complimentary about gruber when asked about him earlier this week. >> i just heard about this. i get well briefed before i come out here. the fact that some adviser who never worked on our staff expressed an opinion that i completely disagree with in terms of the voters is no reflection on the actual process it was a run. >> the walk post is reporting that gruber earned almost $400,000 through contracts from the health and human services department. he reportedly earned more than $2 pll with an ongoing contract dealing with the prescription drug plan. the national review puts the figure higher at $6 million give or take.

it lists paychecks to name a few former senior adviser to the president diefd axelrod now out of the white house recently tweeted quote if you looked up "stupid" in the dictionary, use find gruber's pick. yesterday, he added quote, his contribution to the aca like governor's romney's massachusetts plan were valuable. his throw away quips were offensive. nancy pelosi drew attention for saying she didn't know who jonathan gruber is. >> i think his name will become like a verb. there is not grubered or something. the guy, i think to joe's point last hour, let's cut this conversation short, the president should have just said, what a jerk. >> he did. what the president didn't do what nancy pelosi did last week when she pretended to literally not know who gruber was. then you had video of her

talking about gruber years before. look, this fits the michael kingsley definition of a gap. what gruber did, specific language aside the offensive language aside. what he did was tell the truth. legislation always needs collective ignorance about many elements of it in order to move forward. i promise you, there was not one person who voted for the affordable care act, who can tell you more than 30% of what was in it. i had the pleasure of coming on this set, sitting in this chair, announcing to america there were veeven taxes in the affordable care act that no one knew about because they were developed in secret as they always are by senate finance staff, as soon as max baucus' work product was finally public we few that. through the course of that debate, those taxes did not get debated. you couldn't find anyone who could name two or three of those taxes in there that is how these

things move. one of the legislative strategies about secrecy is, as soon as you know there is a medical device tax in this bill, the medical device industry and tear lobbyists will come from an shut that down. so everyone preserving the secrecy of legislation and the moving components of it going through the process think they're doing the right thing. their experience tells them, it's the only way we can get the passed. >> right. if you said it that way. >> it's not the same concept, which is we are trading, counting on you, the voters. >> okay him chuck todd. >> hold on one sec. >> yes. >> did you just do a gruber, lawrence? >> what i said was earn in this legislation knows. >> did you griesh all over yourself? >> i tried not to, joe.

i tried to just joy, anyone who has worked on legislation can tell you, unless it's a simple thing. let's increase the gas tax a nick em. if it's anything more complex than that, i guarantee you there are elements of that legislation the writers of it don't want discussed because they are political liabilities within the legislation that's what gruber was saying. >> i don't want to sound like a neophyte here. >> you do. but dana milbank, if we are talking about one of the most significant pieces of legislation, i'd rank it up there whether you like it or don't like it. as far as being transformative. there is obviously a serious problem. you have the speaker of the house saying we have to physical out what's in it. a couple years later, we find out this guy says, we had to hide it from the american people

because they're too dumb. >> lawrence didn't gruber himself. >> thank you. >> he didn't talk about stupid itty, it's not the concept. it's the way he said it. i can't wait for the hearing when they haul this guy down here, if you didn't turn it into a verb, it will be in a week or so. >> thank you, you do have a little gruber right here. >> oh. >> we'll be watching. first tonight at 10:00 eastern time. >> mica, we need for to you go to the internet and physical out how lawrence gets that out. >> i know. >> it's with me forever now. >> why do i come here? >> i know. you always regret it, don't you? >> i do. >> i've mumbled. okay. everybody does. >> everyone does. >> you think we don't? silly joe and me?

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republican senator john hoven, thank you for being on the show. is this going to go through? >> i think so. we are 59 votes confirmed. we got a couple maybes. i think there is a couple or two more that may join. i think we have a good slot to get it. >> where are the maybes coming from? >> there is a number that haven't said definitely yes or. we'll see how it works out. we don't know until the vote. it's close. >> what's the, obviously controversy over how many jobs it creates, environmental issues. jobs. how many jobs would this create? >> there has been a lot of numbers out there. i usually quote the environmental impact statements. they say a little over 42,000 jobs. >> steve radner? >> yeah, although those 42,000 jobs are 42,000 jobs per year for a total of 42,000 over two years, 21,000 jobs a year for two years t. permanent employment drops down to 35, not

35,000, 35. >> a lot of jobs are as you say construction jobs. then there is both direct and indirect jobs. some are permanent. some are temporary. i understand the economic benefit goes beyond the job creation. it's about energy, it's about producing our energy here at home, working with our closest friend and allie canada. to do that, you got to have infrastructure to move that energy around and it's a foundational industry for other industries in our economy. it makes us more competitive in a global economy. it's a national security issue, too. we don't want to continue to bring in oil from the middle east or venezuela or other places. >> senator, it's willie geist. we have been talking about this for something like six years now. the state department put out its report. all the parties know what's at stake. we know about the jobs, environmental impact. why do you think it's taken so long to finally get to this vote tonight? >> actions speak louder than

words. he's held it up six years. he is trying to defeat it with delays. he is clearly opposed to the project. which is why i have written a bill. i've actually passed a bill. we attached it to the federal tax holiday inn 2012, requiring the president to make a dig. he turned it down. so now we've come back under the congress's call of the constitution, congress is actually approving the project. >> senator, one of the points of controversy surrounding the passage of this bill and the pipeline is of an environmental nature. specifically, it targets an area in nebraska, where there is a potential for the aqua fir water beneath the ground to be spoiled pregnant permanently by potential oil leaks. the water is quite high there. so the oil wouldn't have to seep that far below the ground to spoil it. do you have any environmental concerns about the environmental passage of this bill? >> there is millions of miles of

pipeline that cross the country. we have to always address those issues. in fact, the pipeline has been rerouted to address the aquafer concerns. you got the latest, greatest technologies to make sure you protect the groundwater. >> steve rad fer, real quick. >> last question, senator the other criticism that the president, himself, has made is that this is simply going to get on that pipeline in canada, it will go to new orleans, somewhere in that vicinity, it will be put on ships an sent somewhere else, that it doesn't have direct economic benefit to us? >> yeah, his own department of energy says otherwise in their report in 2011 says it will use the oil near this country and that it will help reduce gas prices and help with our supplies. so again, we don't need to bring it in from venezuela or the middle east. >> senator john hoven. thank you. we'll see what happens. >> thank you. >> good to have you on. coming up, fighting for workers' rights taking on the $4 trillion

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produce, the most sides are gone. nobody factored in the human cost the human suffering the human exploitation behind it. i was so mood at that article, i thought i would rather buy organic, because we have the most well fed nation in the world and the people that feed us go to bed hungry. >> enjoy actress and activist eva longoria. she is the executive producer of "food chains." here with us is joy. she is so impressive. eva longoria. as mica was watching that. we know her as gabby from "desperate housewives." some people may know her from her soap work. she used her platform in big ways to drive home big messages. this is something we don't think about. supermarkets. explain what she is diving into. >> she is talking about where

your food comes from, we can be very blase about where our food comes from. this is impact. . they take food and put it into context. that context is slavery. americans may not like to recall it. but this country became a world power because of the free work of africans, when that was no longer a tenable system. that was replaced by the cheap labor of african-americans, followed by the cheap labor of successive immigrant groups, whether it was the chinese, mexicans, and this cheap labor continues to fuel the economy even today so you take the wine we'll people are enjoying, the napa valley, the gulp between the people that produce that wine and they live and the people that consume that wine live with that and the other thing the film brings out the supermarket industry fuels this continued use of very cheap labor. we are talking near slave labor that is being utesed to produce

a lot of the food that comes to our table. >> i think maybe some of that is consumers want to say we want to pay the absolute low price, we don't care who it comes from, we want the cheapest head of lettuce. what strikes me really smart about the way she is educating people, you need to pay a little more. pressure wal-mart for its workers. >> talk about marginally more. not substantially more. this isn't the difference between a tomatoes that $3 and $15. we are talking the difference between $3ened $4. >> we can put up unsettleing salaries. the average farm worker earns about $12,000 a year. we also do have a problem where it is hard for a wide swath of the american people to get good food at a price they can afford. >> right. >> healthy food. >> absolutely. food deserts are unfortunately a growing phenomenon in parts of the country. i remember going to missouri

when the first lady was doing a program to encourage healthy eating. this wal-mart they built in missouri was literally, that was it. that was the closest place to get fresh vegetables, fresh food. the issue is we don't have enough food but at the same time we are the best nation on earth. it's who can get access to the freshest, healthiest food and to your point, people want to pay very little money for it. therefore the people that produce it are paid almost nothing. >> the terrible irony of that is making 12 grand to pay a family. you are picking healthy foods, that's not going to work. what major stores have signed on it. steve mentioned wal-mart. they are making a difference. there are other big names making a difference, too, right? >> i think the industry, especially in florida. they have gone after publix. it's the big behemoth in florida. it has not been responsive up to now to this issue. the workers in florida some of the lowest workers have taken

publix on. they're trying to convince firms like them, companies like winn-dixie to pay their workers better. >> this is exactly how it should happen. >> it's not a lot of political power. >> eva longeria. i love it. "food chains" hits theaters nationwide november 21st. you can catch it this afternoon on the reid report at 2:00 right here on msnbc. it's great to have you on. >> thank you. still ahead, mastering the money game, author tony robbins explains the key to financial freedom. next on ""morning joe."" you need a permit... to be this awesome. and you...rent from national. because only national lets you choose any car in the aisle..." and go. you can even take a full-size or above, and still pay the

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1kw sz joining us now, tony robbins. he's the author of the the new book "money: master the game." it's good to have you on the show. >> thank you. >> so you've written -- this is the first book in two decades? >> yes. >> what made you bring this one to the table? >> getting angry. >> what? >> seeing people being taken advantage of for so many years. i've been spent 37 years of my life being obsessed with what makes people's lives change. breakthrough strategies. and there's only a few areas that affect your lives, your body, your relationships, your emotions in money. i grew up very poor. no money and no food at

thanksgiving. it shaped my life. when 2008 happened, it wasn't a bunch of statistics to me. when people are losing their homes and half their retirement income. and i want to be part of the solution. i thought, i know a lot. i would like to know more. i have coached one of the top ten financial traders in the history of the world for 21 years. he's not lost money for 21 years. i thought if i could take him and interview 50 of the smartest people in the world, self made billionaires, top hedge fund guys and find out what they know, then i can take what the best know and teach it to the the general population. >> perfect person to ask you for advice. steve, what would be the question that you would ask him? >> well, so this is something i've thought about a lot. i'm a professional money manager. i spent all my time thinking about how to make more money for my one client. and here's what i don't understand. this is the only profession i know of where people not trained in it think they can do it. you would not write your own will. you would not take out your own

append appendix. you would not fix your car. you would not fix your plumbing. but yet the average american thinks he can manage his own money. i finds it mind boggling. >> when i sat down with warren buffett, when i sat down with one of the greatest hedge fund managers in the world, they all said it makes common sense to hire somebody else. but active management statistically doesn't work. 96% of all mutual funds is untrue. for a ten-year period of trim. they do not match the market. most people think they're paying 1%. they're paying 3%. it does on expenses as well. so if one person starts with three people with $100,000. one payses 1%. one pays 2%. one pays 3%. going to have 574,000. the person with 3% is going to have 254,000. that's 77% less money. same returns. difference is fees. so what warren is doing, he's saying i want all my money to go index funds. 90% when i pass away.

only a few unicorns that can beat the market. what bloomberg has access to. and this is showing what does he say, anybody can do to make money in any market. a lot of people are going to worry what happens. >> for the average person, indexing is the solution. in your zseven steps, one says you should invest the 0.001%. they have access to much more sophisticated products. more sophisticated themselves. i don't think they should be managing money like the 0.1%. i think they should be indexing and taking a passive road. >> we're on the same page with one exception. i went to ray dalia. most people don't know his name. i know you do. president of the united states does. jan el yellen does. he manages money for china. he hasn't taken money in ten years. last time it was $5 billion and $100 million to talk with him. he's been a fan of my work for a long time. at the end i said if you couldn't give any money to your

children and all you could do was give a strategy, a portfolio, what would it be? he said i've tested this since 1925. it's where my money is. it's where my money is for my kids. it's where my money is for all my contributions after my death. i said how does it work? at the end, i said this is great. you explain how you do well in any market. but you told me how to make a chocolate cake. i need to know the amounts. what is the secret sauce? he's never shareded it before ever. he said i can't do that. i said, but you're not taking anybody's money. he said it's complex. i said do a simple version with no leverage. he laid out a version. we testeded it. and if you take it all the way back to 1925, 75 years, it's right 85% of the time. the average loss is 1.6%. and the overall is just under ten. and it's 75 years, the most it's lost is 3.95%. amazing. >> joe is here. >> so mika, tony here is -- i

think his ear piece is out. so you need to pass this along to him. can you hear me, tony? >> hi, how are you? >> i'm doing great. >> so i get in and i make zillions of dollars. now we have a new problem. the 100th anniversary said some of the most miserable people i know are rich. how do you as a life coach explain if you want to get rich to be happy, you're barking up the wrong tree. you make them the money. and now as a life coach, explain to them. it's not going to make you happier. >> it's not the money, it's what you do with it. you can spend $10. and if you're doing it for things, you're going to be miserable. in you do it for experiences, you'll feel very different. if you do it for other people, people you care about, you emotion changes radically. most people get wealthy.

2 challenge is they start expecting things. the highest level was 2006. we had the highest lels of economics in our world. people trade expectation for appreciation. >> so you're supposed to give it all away. >> you know, but the great thing is, and i think maybe you would tell this to people, is we don't have to be bloomberg to have financial freedom. we can find and achieve ways to be financially free and not be manager millionaires or billionaires. >> and i've taken what they know and bring the the strategies never been seen before here. i show people what you don't know will hurt you. i work to bring people an answer that's simple. seven steps. if you're just getting out of the of college and have debt. how do you turn around? if you're a baby boomer and you're behind, what do you do to turn around? this is the best in the world. indexing is one of those strategies. but many of these people share things they've never shared before because they really, truly care, believe it or not. here's what you can do to change your life. >> the book is titled "money: master the game."

tony robbins, thanks so much. great to meet you. coming up, more fallout as president obama downplays. grubergate. down playing his knowledge of the architect of obamacare. plus, public opinion on the president taking executive action on immigration while democrats rally around obama's plan. all that and much more when "morning joe" returns.

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at the g20 summit politicians took a break from saving the world to do a couple of photo-ops. check out these three world leaders who have never shaken hands before. what? [ laughter ] put your hand on red and left hand on yellow, and hold on. spin it. >> they took a break to pose for pictures holding koala bears. vladimir putin and australian prime minister tony abbott with koalas. here's another one with president obama and a koala. and apparently kim jong un felt bad he was being left out so he had his photo taken with a koala. cute. >> it's 10:00 a.m. on the east coast. 5:00 a.m. on the west coast.

we have mike barnacle and steve ratner. tammy duckworth. do you think she should have been able to deliver her vote in the committee? yes. there's politics involved. she's eight months pregnant. she requested they allow her to vote by proxy. joe, what do you think? >> yeah, you know, it's not been done before. but in this case, you have a woman who is eight months pregnant. and you have a doctor who told her that she can't obviously fly to washington, d.c. so you can make that exception. a lot of people are criticizing nancy pelosi, the people who really should be ashamed of themselves are all the people who tried to use her situation so they could cast a proxy vote. people started saying b, yeah, i may have a shift too. everybody came up with an excuse.

so hopefully nancy will be -- well, i don't know. >> with pregnancy. women work in washington now. and they have babies. so they're going to have to just adjust. we'll get baa to this. we're following a developing story out of jerusalem where two p palestinian men stormed a synagogue. according to israeli officials, the two men attacked inside the orthodox neighborhood with axes, knives and guns before they were killed in a shootout with police. the men were scheduled to be from east jerusalem. >> people who have come to worship god in the sanctuary of the synagogue were hatcheted and hacked and murdered in that holy

place in an act of pure terror. and senseless brutality and murder. this violence has no place anywhere. >> palestinian president condemned the attacks while hamas praised them, but did not claim responsibility. we're going to be following that. but turning now to obamacare where this morning the washington free beacon has footage on its website of a 2006 panel discussion featuring then senator barack obama. it includes a sound bite where the future president praises a group of academics, including economist jonathan gruber who has been all over the headlines for saying the stupidity of the american voter helped congress pass health care. >> you've already drawn some of the brightest minds from academia and policy circles. many of them i've stolen ideas from liberally. people ranging from robert gore

on the to john zbrgruber. my dear friend can inform dry policy debates with a prophetic voice. >> president obama was less complimentary when asked about gruber earlier this week. >> i just heard about this. the fact that some adviser who never worked on the staff expressed an opinion that i completely disagree with in terms of the voters is no reflection on the process that was rung. >> fact checkers say gruber earned almost $400,000 through contracts from the health and human services the department. he also reportedly earned more than 2 million for an ongoing contract with hhs. they put the federal figure

higher, as in 6 million. it lists paychecks from a number of states including vermont, minnesota and michigan to name a few. david a axelrod said if you looked up stupid in the dictionary, you would find gruber's picture. yesterday he was added one note. adding his contributions to the aca like his massachusetts plan were valuable. his throwaway quips were offensive. nancy pelosi also drew attention for recently saying she doesn't know who jonathan gruber is. although she touted his work back in twooip. joe? >> i don't know where to start. i'm looking over this list of how much jonathan gruber made from the federal dovt. $103,000 from the department of state. of course, you talk about minnesota. $1.73 million from the justice department.

$2,050,000 from the national institute of health. he went into the white house, i believe, to help construct this plan. dozens of times. at least a dozen times. and in fact the president's own organizing for america said that he helped, quote, write the affordable care act. if these people that are trotting themselves out every couple of days saying gruber, who? what, where? horton hears a gruber. i don't hear a gruber. they're embarrassing themselves. nancy pelosi saying she's never heard of him, and yet she's praising him at the height of the affordable care act. barack obama doing this act, and i don't know who tells him it makes him look cool. it doesn't. it really makes him look out of touch. how many times have we heard him saying, oh, i just heard about this irs scandal or oh, i was

just told about this scandal, and for barack obama to say he's some adviser when his own team is saying he helped draft the bill. when he was at brookings institute and zd who he would put in charge of reform if he were president of the united states. he said jonathan gruber for health care reform. talk about taking a one-day story and making it a one-week or two-week story. he helped us draft the bill. he's an idiot. for obvious reasons. why he's a tenured professor. he's an idiot in front of cameras. he he's pretty smart behind cameras. and they're screwing things up for themselveses chls. they can't get out of the way. >> watching the two sound bites back to back of the president

when he first mentioned gruber's name and saying he didn't know him. now he should say that guy is an idiot? who here at the table doesn't think he's a jerk? he's a total jerk. he's completely a hypocrite or whatever else. >> you know what he is? i've met him. he's a smart guy who said some unbelievably stupid thing out of ego in front of the camera. joe is absolutely right. the white house staff. you have to wonder. you have a smart guy saying stupid things. why they don't say just that and then say by the way, what is the obsession with taking 10 million people off the health care? >> right. an that stirs sound bite with the president mentioning his name. you know, i'm not going to pretend that was a big gotcha moment. how many events have you done where you thanked the person or given a nod to someone in the audience? you had no idea who they were. he was reading that off a script. it's not so gotcha. >> i've been in situations on a much smaller level.

on a much, much smaller level where you're running for office. every presidential candidate goes for this. who are the people you're going to surround yourself with when you become president of the united states. and people say, well, you know, colin powell over here. it would be great to have leon panetta over here. in this case, and we've all seen this before, steve. in this case he was being asked by the brookings institute, who are the top people you will have around you to influence your thinking? and so if you're president of the united states, we'll know which way you go in. and steve ratner brought up jonathan gruber. he put together romney care in massachusetts. he wanted him to put together obamacare in washington, d.c. i think that's a very -- i don't want to say gotcha moment. he said stupid things. instead of pretending like he didn't know who he was.

>> i think that's exactly the point. he was back in the day, and in 2009, a guru on health care. if you go back and look at t the "washington post" or "the new york times" or anything this in that period, you'll find jonathan gruber's name all over it as a leading health care expert as quoted by everyone. someone the white house was using. he was certainly viewed as an important figure in helping to put obamacare together. so the problem is not that he helped him put obamacare together. >> you can almost hear david axelrod's frustration. saying this is the answer to the kweb. we condemn these comments and you move on.

but it keeps going day after day after day. it's not a one-time. there are six, seven, eight videos where he has total contempt for the american people and says they don't understand economics. so we can slip this thing by them. >> and to joe's point. at this point to act like, i don't know who this gruber guy is, it's again, just what an idiot. >> when democrats lost the election, you let me down, guys. just say it. >> you know, mika, it's funny. what willie said is exactly right. when i saw david axelrod's tweet yesterday. i was like, okay. david is pulling out his hair in chicago. >> exactly. guys, say he was really important in this. people aren't dumb. it's almost like the white house thinks people are as stupid as jonathan gruber thinks people are. >> oh, please. >> i'm serious. >> i know. >> by saying if you think you can go out and say, oh, we don't know who this guy is, when he

got paid millions and millions of dollars by the federal government. he was one of the architects of obamacare. and they identified him as an architect. one of the writers of obamacare. he said he wanted the keep people helping him put together his administration. it's almost as if they agree that we're all stupid and not going to be able to google his name and find all this. they need to put this behind him. >> we'll start by turning the page. parking light obama is poised to take executive action to keep millions of undocumented immigrants from being reported. 46% want the president to wait until l the new congress. top senate democrats including harry reid backed the president, taking action now, showing their support, and as "the new york times" notes, the the president appears to have evolved against

using the broad executive action. in 2014, he asked the president if he considered taking action to keep parents of minors who qualified from the dream act from being deported. >> young people who have basically grown up here are americans that we should welcome. and we're not going to have them operate under a cloud, under a shadow. but if we start broadening that, then essentially, i would be ignoring the law, in a way that i think would be very difficult to defend legally. so that's not an option, and i do get a little worried that, you know advocates of immigration reform start losing heart and immediately think iin that there's somehow an out here. we'll have the president sign something and we don't have to worry about it. >> all right. what jose said.

what he got the president to say in that interview is obviously going to be something we're hearing time and time again. the president saying he took executive action in this way. he's thinking about doing it now. it would be unconstitutional. wouldn't be legal. it's hard to turn around and do the very thing you just said a few years ago. this action would be unconstitutional. >> joining us now from capitol hill, nbc political correspondent casey hunt. is there any way this spirals down to another standoff? >> republicans are trying really hard to prevent that from happening. at this point it would have to take a serious set of circumstances to get them to step into that storm again. basically the only way to lose this fight is to go into another government shut yn down.

as joe was pointing out, these comments from president obama are going to be something that we hear over and over and over again from republicans on the hill. and i think we know now that the president is definitely going to go forward with this executive order. the question is the timing. i think it matters if he decides to come out with before december 11th, whether the government needs to be funded or after. but after that point, the question is how do the long-term politics of this play? do americans get upset. do they view it as the president going around the law? doing something that he said is outside of the law? or does it become untenable to reverse? and the president is clearly betting that republicans are fwroing to decide they don't want to undo this for fear of angering hispanic voters. that they really need in the the upcoming presidential election. >> still ahead on "morning joe", senator claire mccaskill weighs in on the immigration debate. and then the author david

baldaci is here with his latest thriller. is this the end of chocolate? really? we'll tell you how the world is running out of chocolate. but bill karins with a look at the forecast. >> good morning, everyone. we have incredible snow happening just south of buffalo, new york. already reports of 32 inches of snow. a lot of places picksing up two to three feet. cold air over the warm waters of lake erie. just a continuous stream of very intense snow just south of buffalo, new york. highway new york steat freeway is closed in the area. everyone is staying home and trying to shovel themtss out. the forecast is for greater than 30 inches just south of buffalo. someone is going to end up with five to six feet of snow. by the time this historic lake-effect snow is over with. also grand rapids, a few or two

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oh my gosh! we'll get to this one. is this in papers? let's take a look at the morning papers. the "washington post," a new report says 1 in 30 american children, about 2.5 million kids were hopeless at some point in 2013. an all-time high. the numbers are particularly high in california. more than one-fifth of homeless children in the u.s. the high poverty rate is to blame for the drastic increase, as are the high costs of housing and domestic violence. >> "new york times" senior executive at uber is apologizing after saying the company should dig up dirt on critics in the media during a dinner. he said he thought the conversation was off the record and said his comments do not reflect the company's views. michael suggested hiring a team of opposition researchers to

gather inf on the personal lives of critics. he specifically mentioned targeting a female journalist and urged other women to delete the app. he's been at uber for over a year. that fs a buzzfeed report yesterday. >> and a local investigative report in new york city finds a radar system at newark international airport is not functioning properly and repeatedly sending off false alarms. the system is supposed to prevent collisions by warning air traffic controllers that planes come too close to one another. but as jim hopper reports, the key safety tool isn't working as intended. >> complaints about the unreliability of the anti-collision radar fill the daily logs. one controller noting as dx keeps shutting down, we ask tech ops to shut it down completely. our investigation found from february through july of this year the radar failed to work properly. 118 out of 181 days.

that lack of reliability may have played a role in the closest of close calls last april at newark when an express jet taking off to united airlineses 737 came within 400 feet of colliding. >> yeah, he was real close. >> we're told the radar did alert before the near miss, but gave little time for the controller to react. the daily log for that day also shows the radar came in. just 28 minutes before the close call. >> oh my god. go, jim. that's a good story. >> wait a second. 118 of 181 days the radar in newark didn't work. flying out of laguardia today. >> i'll drive to philly from now on. jeesh. >> oh my word. >> i'll drive to philly. that is absolutely insane.

>> how does that happen and not get fixed? they just write it down and push the paper somewhere. good reporting. good reporting. >> the independent celebrity chef gordon ramsey is known to be a nightmare in the kitchen. now he's accusing a rival chef of turning up the heat. >> this is getting ugly. sabotaging his new london restaurant's opening weekend. he blames haters for booking 100 tables left unoccupied on this big night. the chef did not name the culprit but says he will now reconfirm every reservation to make sure it is real. >> okay. that's awful. usa today, the world's biggest chocolate companies are warning of a coming shortage? what? farmers are producing less cocoa than the world consumes in part because of disease and drought. we're in the middle of a near 50-year streak of chocolate production deficits.

last year the world ate 70,000 metric tons more than produced. mars, one of the world's largest chocolate maker says that number could swell to 1 million by 2020. some people say horde gourd. horde chocolate. >> m&ms. this is the greatest marketing ploy of all times. >> chocolate! >> well done, chocolate industry. the new york daily news. this is crazy. one woman is going all out to prove her loyalty to convicted mass murderer charles mapp son, even if it means exchanging vows with him. the the 80-year-old cult leader obtained a marriage license to wed a 26-year-old woman who is intent on seeing him exonerated. she moved to california almost a decade ago so it would be easier to visit him in prison. >> that's sick. >> now she says she wants to marry charles manson to get access to case information that's only available to relatives.

the woman says she believes her fiance is innocent and will get a new trial. >> up next, democrats took two years to rebound after this year's losses in the house and senate. how will they respond to the the challenge? senator claire mccaskill explains what her party needs to do next. we'll be right back. ticky notes when we asked the guys at to map their manufacturing process with sticky notes

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live look at washington, d.c. a beautiful day there. we're going to get to some major politics in play today in just a moment. but first, a state of emergency is now in effect in missouri. as a grand jury decides whether or not to diet a white police officer who shot and killed an unarmed black teen. democratic governor jay nixon issued the executive order in anticipation of possible unrest over the grand jury's decision. that action includes calling up the national guard to assist local law enforcement. violent protests erupted in august after darren wilson shot 18-year-old michael brown. governor nixon says he hopes those types of demonstrations do not happen again, but he has a duty to keep the public safe. but the governor seemed to struggle a bit in a conference call when asked if he is ultimately responsible for the response to the possible

protests. >> we're -- you know, it -- it -- you know, our goal is here to -- is to -- you know, keep the peace and allow folks' voices to be heard. and in that balance, i'm attempting, you know, i am using the resources that we have to marshal to be predictable for both of those pillars. i don't, you know, i'm more -- i -- i just am going to have to say i don't spend a tremendous amount of time personalizing this. >> joining us now from capitol hill, member of the the armed services committee, claire mccaskill of missouri. claire, great to have you on the show. let's start there as this plays out in your state in ferguson. is the national guard at the ready the right thing to do? >> well, first of all, this is

not the time for any of us to be criticizing anyone else. this is really hard. i think we need to spend more time talking about how we heal and make reforms. we've got a police department in ferguson that is 95% white in a community that's 70% african-american. that's a problem. we have racial profiling still occurring across the country day in and day out. i think we need to be leading, all of us, with how we come together and realize we can do a better job in our criminal justice system of making sure there's equal justice for all. and by the way, many of the police officers have done heroic and wonderful work. and they are tasked with a very, very difficult job. and that is protecting people's first amendment rights. but also making sure the bad actors that want confrontation are not allowed to incite the kind of violence where people

could get hurt. so i am spending all my time working on the -- since i have no direct authority, i've been spending my time trying to work behind the scenes with the ferguson police department in making reforms there. with the community leaders that are trying to see if we can't change our municipal court system and do a much better job recruiting young african-americans. both that run for office and into law enforcement. >> certainly a careful balance that you're trying to strike there. joe? >> yeah, and claire, obviously we agree with you completely about the disparity and the racial makeup of that police force and shocked by some of the things the mayor of ferguson 15id earlier this year. i want to ask you about the police officer and his family. obviously a lot of threats have cropped up online. if he is not indicted, if the grand jury comes back and finds he did nothing inappropriate, what would you say to missouri residents about this police officer and how he should be treated moving the forward in the community? >> well, i think first of all we

have two separate independent investigations going on. a state investigation and a federal investigation. both are looking at all of the evidence. and when the grand jury finishes with a witness, that testimony is going directly to the federal government for their review. >> right and so there's really two independent investigations. once their investigationses are complete, then officer wilson, you, will either be indict d, and then of course removed from the police department. or he will not. officer wilson has to decide what the future holds for him. >> i'm asking about missouri residents who have threatened him, who have threatened his family. what message would you want to send to the people of ferguson and the people of missouri if he is, in fact, not indicted, and now or in the the federal case. >> there has been rushes to judgment on both sides of this

equation, joe. the rush to judgment by some o in the african-american community is in fact understandable. because there is racial disparities in terms of how people are treated. >> but i'm talking specifically about this man and his family who have had -- dollar prices placed on their heads by extremist organizations. will you just come out and say respect him and if he's acquitteded then stay the hell away from him and stay the hell away from his family? >> well, i think that's kind of obvious, joe. >> well, it's not obvious. because i keep asking you about this officer and his family, and i'm curious if he is acquitted, then does he get his life back? does his family get his life back? do they get their life back? >> of course they get their life back. of course, he should be protected and of course his life should not be threatened. there's absolutely no excuse for 350e people threatening violence in

this issue. i thought that was obvious. absolutely inappropriate if this officer is not indicted, he and his family should be safe and carry on with the rest of their life and people should respect that. >> okay, let's move onto national issues. i want to talk about two things. one keystone. but first immigration reform. i was fascinated by what you said the other day. you don't like the president's approach, but of course, republican obstructionism is not looking so good on this issue either. what's the mirdddle way? what's the missouri way? what's the way you would like to see congress and the president go on this issue? >> i think speaker boehner needs to be put under a lot more pressure. we passed a bill by two-thirds majority in the senate. people like lindsey graham and lamar alexander from tennessee and south carolina, voted for it, and they just got reelected. by double digits in deeply red states. so i'm trying to figure out why the republicans that supported comprehensive immigration

reform -- are not putting more pressure on their colleagues. it is one thing to shoot arrows at the white house. it's another thing to roll up your sleeves and get to work. we can get this done if speaker boehner would just allow the bill to come to the floor for debate, change it. amend it. put in your own bill. but do something. don't just make this about demonizing the president. >> thomas? >> so senator, the issue that's playing out in washington, d.c. right now is whether or not the president will use executive action. i know you were on cbs and face the nation over the weekend saying you were not crazy about this idea. the last time in this country we had a major immigration overhaul. we hat republican presidents and reagan that used an executive action to protect immigrants in this country. there wasn't that big of a backlash against a republican sitting president, two of them. why do you think there would be such a big backlash against a

democratic sitting president for executive action to protect immigrants? >> well, it's the times we live in, and it's also the fact that there's a great deal of frustration about the gridlock. and the president obviously has had a great deal of difficulty getting cooperation, consensus, compromise. there's a wing in the republican party that thinks any action in this regard is somehow a bad idea. even though we are losing in terms of competing with other countries for the best and the brightest who come to this country to get educated. we need to make it less complicated to legally immigrate. >> we you say you're not crazy about the idea but blame the republicans for not coming to consensus. why wouldn't you support the president to use executive action? >> well, i think it's awkward right now. i'm not crazy about it. i haven't made up my mind.

and he hasn't done it yet. but i think all of us know this is not the best way to do this. i would prefer we do it the old fashioned way. let's negotiate a compromise and pass a bill. and the refusal. the abject refusal of the republicans in the house to even take this up ought to be what we are all talking about. and i would prefer we talk about that and try to get movement there. because the american people don't support the game playing around the issue. they want us to get some work done on it. >> all right. senator claire mccaskill. always good to have you on the the show. fiery today. we appreciate everything you've talked about today. thank you very much. >> thank you so much. >> coming up, best selling author is still ahead. but first, brian sullivan has apreview. business before the bell is next on "morning joe."

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and you can watch it tonight on cnbc. time now for business before the bell with cnbc's brian sullivan. brian, where do you want to start? >> i do not have a throne of money like marcus does there, although, it's made out of pen in is. ooum trying my best. let's start with the markets here. this is something cool. if we finish higher on the s&p 500 today, it will tie the longest streak of gains in 20 years. the dow is up 8% in one month. we've been soaring no not just america, but all over the world. a group of taxi drivers clogging up san francisco airport, trying to protest uber and handing out leaflets. the federal housing administration in the black for the first time since 2011. in other words, they are now profitable. they are no longer losing billions like they had. story four, elon musk writing we are apparently within ten years

of dangerous artificial intelligence. i want your viewers and listeners to think killer robots. he wrote that in a blog. the blog post mysteriously disappeared. perhaps a robot made him do it. and jim crowe, 13 years. $325 million deal. biggest sports contract in the history of north carolina america. $152,000 per game. $17,000 per inning for 13 years. mom -- >> yeah, a couple of things really quickly, brian. first of all, i saw this elon musk article on mashable. it's really frightening. he said most people think 5 to 10 years before we have a major incident where, you know, artificial intelligence gets more intelligent than us and creates a possibility that he says could be worse than a

nuclear bomb. even those that take a more moderate view say we may be 20 years from this. it's frightening. i wonder who is out there actually protecting us. >> we're already there. elon musk is much smarter than i am. have you tried to call through and get somebody at an airline? the voice mail alone is the artificial intelligence he speaks of. >> mike barnacle, that's a little different than war games with a computer launching nuclear missiles because it's smarter than we are. speaking of lack of intelligence, this deal that miami just hatched. what economic -- what economic justification can there be for that kind of contract? >> it makes no economic sense for the marlins. it makes great sense for john carlos. it's a clown deal for the franchise. last year in the 2014 season, the total team payroll was $41 million. they will not win a thing. john carlos stanton that has a

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you know, this huge bank has been, you know, ripped off by sovie soviets, by russians. credit cards for half a billion people. >> yeah, these days i only have to be plausible. anything i where i is plausible and believable. i think that happens, actually. this is great fodder for thriller writers. >> excuse me. >> go for it. >> i was just going to ask you about the amazon deal finally being cut. how has that benefitted other writers, other than yourself. you don't need much help. you're well known, other writers just beginning, first books, how does it help? >> it helps. we need a thriving publishing industry. they're the ones who take chances on new writers. go out and publicize. send them to bookstores around

the country. we need amazon. they're a great partner for us. we need to work together. it's hard enough to sell books without people fighting each other. >> based on mike's question, we were talking in the break about smaller bookstores. mike likes to support those. and certain people love to support those, too. to see those thrive. and you believe in those. you think based on a foundational support of people who love to go out, buy books and support them. >> those little bookstores built my career early on. the tour will be all independent bookstores. they're the life blood. they're the ones in the trenches give getting people excited about books and writers. we have to support them. >> the book is "the escape." david baldacci, thank you so much. you can read an excerpt on our website. is that it? up next, what, if anything, did we learn today? thank you so much.

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they say giuliani cleaned the place up, but new yorkers still live with the looming threat of the ground. that's why they call it the mean streets. >> welcome back to "morning joe." it's time to talk about what we learned today. mika, what did you learn? >> not to friend people. i think. you got to figure it out. >> i'm going to help you block this guy. >> i learned last night on tylerclementi.org. it's their third event. donate for anti-bullying campaign. >> perfect. >> i learned our increasing inability to reform our tax code and deal with income inequality is getting me enormously depressed. >> okay. we're going to have to fix it. joe, did you learn anything today? >> i'm scared of computers. >> i am, too. the ai warning. i think people should read that on mashable. very concerning. but if it's way too early, mika, what time is it?

>> it's time for "morning joe." but up next we have "the rundown." have a good day. >> and good morning, i am jose diaz but first, a terror attack inside the holy city of jerusalem. it's exactly 4:00 p.m. and mourners are in the streets waiting for the victims. four are dead. three israeli americans. we're going to show you pictures of what happened. but i want to warn you, they are tough to look at. the attack occurred this morning inside a synagogue in the western part of the city. two men burst into the building armed with a meet cleaver and a gun, attacking people while they were praying. three were israeli-americans. the fourth was a british-american. several others were wounded. >> we came to pray this morning. we were coming into the synagogue, and we heard gunshots from