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overnight. wounding three students. another round of snow falling and the big worry now, will homes be able to withstand the weight of it all? we go to chris jansing. we've got a few more details about what the president is going to say. how is the white house reacting over this plan? >> reporter: look, this is going to be a pr war and it's going to be huge and the administration is getting groups behind it many of them are going to stage rallies. some of them are going to be holding viewing parties tonight. and the president himself who we've already reported is going to las vegas to officially sign this executive order. on the other side, they're saying this is a gross
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overstepping of executive authority. they think they can go at it legally, perhaps, if not legislatively. senior white house officials, take a listen. >> looking at, he is doing everything within his authority. what he will announce tonight, he he clearly has the authority to do. >> what they've done is what can we do? what can we justify? that's what he's going to lay out tonight. that would make it the largest change in immigration in close to 30 years. the people who would be affected, the parents of citizens, but won't help the parents of dreamers, they don't think they can find the legal justification of that. the speech expected to last about ten minutes tonight. and then, again, the president hits the road for what will be weeks long, if not months long
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push to get support for this, joy. >> all right. nbc's chris jansing at the white house. thanks very much. >> sure. to capitol hill now where republicans are vowing that the president taking unilateral action on immigration will result in consequences down the road. >> the action he's proposed would ignore the law, would reject the voice of the voters and would impose unfairness in law-abiding citizens. >> kelly o'donnell live on capitol hill. all right, kelly, we heard an earful from republican after republican on the hill. what's the consensus? >> well, there is real frustration, joy, over the process. you certainly have some republicans who are kind of long on the merits, be you also have some that might support the ideas but don't like the process. the use of an executive action. you've got that range happening. it has ignited a fire, it is a talking point that echoes well on conservative radio and in the republican voter community.
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there are options like looking to defund portions of the authority the president used to carry out the actions he'll outline tonight. but it is, as chris pointed out, very much a pr war. it is important when you consider that those who serve on capitol hill are very caught up on the idea of what is their role to write legislation. critics say, well, they just haven't done that. chuck schumer of new york, the democrat said, republicans don't get mad, get even by passing some sort of legislation that would address some of these issues. there are republicans who say taking steps, not in a big comprehensive sweeping way, but a piece by piece approach, border security first is what when he most often hear, dealing with visa issues would be another topic. some even support some concerns for the dreamer kids as they're known. so there's a real fight here about the passions, about the politics and also how the law
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should function. and so that's something that's going to carry this conversation for weeks to come. and when chris points out that they're going to nevada, remember, harry reid of nevada, he's up in the next cycle for reelection and so the president going there is also helpful to soon be minority leader harry reid launching his next reelection campaign. >> all right. a lot to think about there. thanks very much. and coming up, we'll talk with an activist from united we dream. for more on what the president's action will mean to millions of undocumented immigrants who are facing deportation. all right. let's go to florida now where classes are canceled at florida state university after a gunman opened fire overnight inside a packed library where hundreds of students were studying for exams.
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three students were wounded and two remain hospitalized. the gunman was killed in a shootout with police. mark, what do we know about this gunman? >> reporter: well, nothing official yet. we expect to hear at least nothing that nbc is reporting at this time until we get full confirmation, joy. we expect to get that from the police at a news conference in about an hour from now. i'll describe the scene to you here. this is the library where the shooting occurred. it was around the corner back in the frontme. students are gathering there now. classes have been canceled, exams postponed as the scene is being processed. it has the yellow crime tape around it. we are told by authorities that last night at the time of the shooting, actually early this morning, about 12:30, there were 300 to 400 students inside this building all studying for final exams. the mayor of tallahassee says perhaps the only good news here is that most of them were spared. the horrible news is that three
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students were shot, one is in critical condition, one is now listed in good condition in the hospital, an upgrade from stable. the third suffered a grazing wound and was treated on the scene. one student told us that the scene here was very chaotic. she saw a man shot in the leg, a man manning the front desk, but also credited the police who got here very quickly. they shot the gunman and brought this scene under control. joy? >> all right. mark potter in tallahassee. thank you. and now to the controversy surrounding bill cosby. new video has surfaced of cosby declining to answer questions about the sexual assault allegations against him. nbc's gabe gutierrez has been following the story from los angeles. >> no, no, we don't answer that. >> in this newly released video from the "associated press," the tv dad who seemed to have all the answers on the "cosby show." >> i am your father. i brought you in this world, and i'll take you out. >> this time, apparently did not like the question. >> i just wanted to ask if you wanted to respond at all about whether any of that was true.
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>> there's no response. >> the interview with cosby and his wife about art he was lending to the smithsonian took place november 6th. toward the end, the "a.p." reporter asked about the video recently gone viral of stand-up comedian burris calling cosby a racist. >> there is no comment about that. and i'll tell you why. i think you were told, i don't want to compromise your integrity, but we don't -- i don't talk about it. >> he then asked a reporter not to use that part of the interview. >> and i would appreciate it if it was scuttled. >> i hear you. i will tell that to my editors and -- and i think they will understand. >> well, i think if you want to consider yourself to be serious
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that it will not appear anywhere. >> six women have now publicly accused cosby of sexual assault. >> over the last ten years, it's been coming and going and coming and going and it's been sliding under the rug quite a lot. now, it's time. people are listening. >> court records of a 2006 civil suit that was settled show ten more women made anonymous claims. cosby has never been charged with any crime. a former prosecutor tells nbc news there wasn't enough proof. >> i thought cosby was guilty and had done something wrong, but that -- i mean, i can't stand up in court and tell the judge and jury my gut tells me he's guilty. >> cosby's attorney said their client would not dignify discredited claims with a response. they call the most recent rape allegation from former supermodel janice dickinson a complete lie contradicted by accounts in her own book. >> the loss of innocence i suffered and women out there
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suffer is why i'm sitting here today. and i don't care about what cosby or networks or anybody says. i am -- you will hear me. >> but nbc has now pulled the plug on a planned sitcom starring cosby, netflix has stopped a comedy special and tv land has trapped reruns of the "cosby show." >> at 77 with all of these allegations, it's going to be difficult for him to launch another tv show or film. >> that was nbc's gabe gutierrez reporting in los angeles. now, for that crippling winter weather pounding the great lakes region. a second snowstorm is hitting sections of western new york south of buffalo today. for now, towns already buried under snow are being spared. at least eight deaths are being blamed on the winter weather. and 132-mile stretch of the new york throughway remains closed for a third day. other major highways and closures are in place. at a news conference this morning, andrew cuomo says it would be impractical for the
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buffalo bills to host the jets this sunday. the nfl has yet to decide whether to postpone or relocate the game. live from new york. how much snow is expected today? >> reporter: well, get this, joy. as much as 2 to 3 feet in some areas as that, of course, is on top of what has already fallen. now, it's not every day that you are eye level with a street sign, but that is the case up and down the road here as the plows try to push some of that snow from the road up here on to these banks. even some of these houses down the way, which haven't had that snowplow effect are still buried up to their windows in all of this powder. a lot of people choosing to not even try to dig out until all of the snow has fallen. we are expecting what is being described as the second phase of the storm to continue through the afternoon. and then this weekend, believe it or not, going to see warmer temperatures. some of the snow is actually
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going to start melting prompting authorities to already start looking ahead towards possible flooding. meanwhile, people being urged to stay off the roads to check on their neighbors, especially, if they are elderly, we had schools in the buffalo public school system cancel today. a lot of businesses canceled simply because they can't even get to their front door or prop it open with the weight of that snow against it. we've seen some collapsed roofs, some storm doors that have broken inside. really, just a mess here and the worst yet is the -- the worst is not yet over for people here who today may be dealing with 2 to 3 feet of snow, joy, and by the weekend, possible flooding. back to you. >> thanks very much. and coming up, i will talk to an advocate and to a dreamer and a dreamer about what she's most looking forward to hear from the president tonight. then we'll go beyond the border and consider the impact of the president's announcement. msnbc will carry the president's
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welcome back. listening to republicans on the senate and the house floor today, you come to two conclusions regarding opinions on immigration reform. and two, they really don't like president obama's plan to fix it. >> we can't take every person without destroying the country. >> this president, if he doesn't get his way, i've got a pen, i've got a phone. i'm going to go it alone. well, that's a disaster waiting to occur. >> the action he's proposed would ignore the law, would reject the voice of the voters and would impose unfairness on law-abiding immigrants all without solving the problem. in fact, his action is more likely to make it even worse. >> joining me now the director of advocacy and policy at united
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we dream. thank you for being here. >> it's a pleasure to be here. >> let's talk about what we do know about the plan. the thinking is it would help some 5 million people, not the parents of dreamers, they would not be included. but it could help, you know, millions of people potentially stay in the country and even potentially work. what is -- what do you think about the plan so far from what you've heard of it? >> that is right. i think it's a tremendous victory. certainly not everything we've hoped for. we're talking about 5 million people who would be able to live without fear of deportation, who have work permits and continue to contribute to this great country which they call home. and so, you know, i think that for me, this is a very special day. i get to share this with my mother, my sister. my sister is a -- she's protected from deportation and has a work permit. and i have my green card now. that means my mom does qualify. and like me and my family, there are millions of people who will
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rejoice tonight and will be happy and ready to protect this huge victory because we were fighting for this for a long time. and there will be many people who will be happy and in solidarity with brothers and sisters and who will continue to fight until they, too, can feel some type of protection. >> i think it's important to make that point that this is the president responding to really what has been a grass roots, very persistent grass roots campaign, and i think it's important to make that point. one of the big, i guess, knocks on this idea from republicans, and there are many. one of them was made by conservative writer and thinker, and he says the president's plan is dangerous. invites new surges of illegal immigration. many would be illegal immigrants are not desperate refugees, they respond to opportunities. the new executive action opens a new opportunity. how do you respond to people who say that if the president does what republicans, it will just invite more people to break the law by coming across without
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documents. >> well, the truth is that the president's announcement tonight will have a cut off date. it won't cover everyone. there'll be requirements. in the deferred action for dreamers, for young, undocumented people, the requirement was you had to have been in the united states continuously for the last five years. i imagine there will be similar requirements to this new program which he'll announce tonight in full details. i don't buy that argument. to me, seems like republicans have been looking for a way out and for a way to block the president from taking action for a long time. >> yeah. >> the truth is that we had a federal immigration reform bill on the floor. they refused to pass the senate bipartisan bill. and not only did they refuse to do that, but they also didn't propose any bills on their own in the house. so all they did was complain. they then took votes to repeal the successful deferred action for childhood arrivals program that protects young, undocumented people.
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has been mass deportation. until they can actually put forward a new vision that actually addresses the challenges we have every day and that takes care of these people, and millions more. i would say they just need to shut up. >> and, you know, what you're saying does sound like a focus on what republicans are doing prior to the election, there did seem to be a shift in the grass roots campaign in which there was just as much targeting of the white house for criticism of existing deportation as republicans, and then in the election, you saw republicans who were successful across the country when despite losing the hispanic vote, yo uh look at a state like florida where rick scott won reelection and only got less than 40% of the latino vote which was down significantly from what he won in 2010. just as a political matter, is the movement for immigration reform going to start focusing more on republicans or does that seem like a failed effort? because republicans were winning without latino votes anyway?
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>> i think a lot of it will depend on what the republican strategy is. so are they going to show up after tomorrow and start saying we need to repeal this? we need to do everything in our power to block it, be it a lawsuit, or defund it to block it and prevent it from going into effect? or are we going to put forward a vision that actually works for america that addresses security, but that really allows 11 million people to come out of the shadows and get in the back of the line. there is no line right now. right. so it'll depend on that for us what is clear that this is a long, hard fought victory and we will do everything to protect it. so if republicans want to mess with dreamers, we invite them to do that. we will be ready to protect what we have fought for. this is certainly not the president waking up one day and saying this is a great idea. there's been tremendous movement and push. we've organized. we've made people uncomfortable,
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and today, we get to celebrate this great victory for our country. >> indeed. you're right. there's been a lot of activism around this thing for pointing that out. we appreciate you being here. >> thank you. immigrants from latin america make up about 81% of the country's undocumented population. an estimated 9 million people, give or take. what about the other 19%, they come from countries like the philippines, india, korea, china, millions of people who call the united states home. the executive director of haitian women of miami. marlon hill is a lawyer who was born in jamaica, came to the united states as an undocumented immigrant from pakistan in 1991. he's now the acting executive director at drum south asian organizing center. and an immigration activist and undocumented immigrant who narrowly missed the cut off for the program and he's a member of define americans, 1 of 11 million campaign. john, i want to start with you on that. part of the story of what the
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president is going to do tonight is what he's not going to do. the president apparently according to our reporting looked into with his lawyers what legally could be done. and there were some people who were going to be left out. from your point of view, is another thing that's being left out a broader focus on the kinds of immigrants who are actually even being discussed when it comes to immigration reform. >> i think we need to focus more on the rest of the 6 million who will be left out. try to legalize them in some way in certain future especially with the obama administration having two years left. and hopefully congress can actually look into this issue and then focus more on the other undocumented immigrants who will not be covered under the program. >> and, i think it's a good place to come to you. you've been fighting for many years for, you know, the haitian community, particularly in miami. where there are a lot of unaccompanied minors, there have
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been fights to get some special even when there are disasters in haiti. do you feel it's broad enough and affecting enough communities? >> i believe that maybe before us today is a great victory. it is a long, hard fought victory. we understand that it will cover around 5 million people. what about the remaining? we are talking about 11 million undocumented who have been waiting for so long for this release. we are concerned about that, and that is why, rally held in miami yesterday. we asked president obama to go big. in the case of the haitians, we know that many of them have had temporary protected status. most of them would not be qualified under this relief. however, there is residual group
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who for one reason or the other was not able to adjust their status. so those people would recover. what we want to say, though, to all of those who have been debating since the announcement early this week is that this is about family. these families have been waiting for a long, long time. they waited for congress to act. they waited for them. and we want congress to act. we still want them to act. executive order does not exclude comprehensive immigration reform, and the haitians who e are -- have cps right now, are yearning for reform which would provide more permanent relief for them, especially those who came after the earthquake and continue to suffer so much. >> and you know, i think one of the questions that people ask is whether or not a reform like this, whether or not the president taking action will simply spark more people to make the attempt to come into the
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country without going through the legal system. how do you respond to that as somebody whose family has gone through this? >> you really don't see any influx of people coming in trying to claim those programs. all of these programs have cutoff dates that have been announced. and so nobody's going to hear this and start crossing the board or start coming over. and these are, i think it underestimat underestimates, or acknowledge the reality of what it means to be an undocumented immigrant. crossing the border is a life threatening journey. people that come here and live here as undocumented immigrants are working for $3, $4, $5 an hour living in the shadows. nobody undertakes those journeys and those commissions just so for the fun of it or expectations -- the people that do it are people that are forced into those conditions because of conditions in their own countries, because of economic conditions, because of lack of
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peace. and nobody's really following the developments around immigration in their home countries and a way to say, oh, this is my opportunity to cross the border. >> and i feel like you and i have had this conversation for many years about the fact that when we talk about immigration policy, we don't talk about all of the people that it impacts, including in the caribbean. how do you think this conversation will impact and will fall on the ears of people in the caribbean community in south florida and elsewhere. >> well, you know, joy, i noticed in your list of spectrum of people, you failed to mention europe. lots of immigrants in europe that are going to be impacted by this, as well. they're both rich and poor. and whatever you want to say to america on this issue, walk in the shoes of someone in this situation. why would you want to live in this situation. a job to provide for your family. everyone wants that. we know -- we know that the question is going to be who gets credit.
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this is a pushback on what marlin said. this is progress but we will have victory with both, all of america can say this issue is off the table. >> you said that marlin is saying this is one step along the way. >> yes, indeed, joy, we do need comprehensive immigration reform. we've waited for congress to act instead of acting they played politics, ideological rhetoric, waiting for the midterm elections while people are suffering. each time we wait, each time we delay, 1 million immigrants, it means that millions of children go to bed at night crying for their moms and dads. immigrants of this country have kept their end of the bargain
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for so long. they do whatever it takes to contribute to our economy. they work two jobs. most of them, 40% of them are small business owners. they employ millions of americans. they contribute over $700 billion to our economy every year. it makes sense. it is smart for us to encourage and support president obama in this political and ideological posturing. and do the right thing. but we also permanent relief so that people can adjust, feel happy in their skin, invest more in our nation, and then follow the path to citizenship. this is a country of immigrants. this country's the most powerful in the world because of all immigrants. let's stop the posturing. let's -- let's stop the ideological fighting. let's act for families. it's about families and children.
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that's all it's about. >> i wish we had more time. thank you all for being here. >> thank you, joy. and msnbc will bring you live coverage on immigration with special coverage kicking off at 7:45 p.m. eastern right here on msnbc. we'll be right back. it's time for "your business" entrepreneur of the week. mountain brook, alabama, business owner celebrates live local saturdays at her store. she shows work from area artists as part of the shop's small initiatives. in town, you'll also see banners and t-shirts reminding residents to shop, dine, play and love local. for more, watch "your business" on sunday mornings. ♪ ♪ ♪ let us be lovers, we'll marry our fortunes together ♪
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you're looking at pictures of the president and the first lady having lunch moments ago with visitors from the tribal youth of north dakota. the group met after a brief meeting in the oval office today. now, with a moment this big, this provocative, this prime time tonight, president obama and his team are no doubt poring over the poll numbers on immigration carefully calibrating their message to make sure they're moving in step with the times but not too far out ahead of them. it turns out the polls are completely contradictory. joining me now to plow through
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them is steve kornacki. >> what we're really seeing the contradiction we're seeing or seeing in the polling is the difference between policy and process. so let's go to the big board here. you remember this thing from election night. and let's show you what that means. this is the bottom line question, do you support or oppose, approve or disapprove of what the president's going to do tonight. and you see 38% approving of it, 48% disapproving. not a good number, that's not encouraging. we talk about a contradiction. here's another way of asking question able immigration. this is a description of a bill that passed the senate last year. the one that's been languishing in the house. the one that because it hasn't moved through the house. when you describe what's in that bill is it's a path way to citizenship, taxes, penalties, long-term process, overwhelming support. 3/4 of americans say they
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support that. 3/4 support this expansive legislation and only 38% support the much more narrow executive action the president's preparing. what gives? so let's take a closer look at the numbers and you can see. first of all, this is after the election this is the new nbc news "wall street journal" poll. and it asks, do you want them to be making compromises or do you want them to be sticking to their principles, sticking to their positions. overwhelmingly here people are saying they want compromise. this is when we start getting into process. what the president's doing here now. he'll say it's because republicans weren't compromising. at the end of the day, he's doing a unilateral action. it's not compromised. it's running against that, also this. voters say they want compromise, they want the president working with congress. who do they want taking the initiative? do they want president obama taking the initiative? or do they want congress? that's a significant change. and then you ask this question. congress is supposed to take the lead. well, do you think one of their
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priorities should be to be acting to create legal status for those here illegally and close to 50% are saying, no, that shouldn't be a priority. that's a contradiction, joy, between process and policy on this. >> and also, they want congress to take the lead on legislation? they don't know congress very well. all right. it'll be interesting information. you've made it make as much sense as you could. don't miss "up" weekend mornings at 8:00 a.m. eastern right here on msnbc. ugh... ...heartburn. did someone say burn?
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it's been a life changing week for bill cosby. and one can imagine it's been difficult also for the women who stepped forward to publicly accuse him of sexual assault. accusations mr. cosby has never been charged with and has always denied. this week has also been complicated for the millions of people who experienced bill cosby as a comic and cultural icon over the past four decades. and now, some journalists are looking back at their own work
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through the lens of these new allegations. most of which are not at all new. one of those journalists is a senior editor at "the atlantic" whose new piece tackles his own coverage of bill cosby and what he wishes he could change. and thank you so much for being here. i appreciate it. >> joy, thanks for having me. >> and once again, you've written a really terrific piece. i think you examined all of these facets of what, i think gets to a lot of us who grew up watching bill cosby. first, just the anxiety of watching an icon in this position. but also the fact that as people who care about issues regarding women and the rights of women and as you said the rights of all of us to our own bodies. you said a defense of cosby requires that one believe that several women have decided to publicly accuse one of the most powerful men in recent hollywood history of a crime they have no
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hope seeing prosecuted and for which they're seeking no damages. the alternative is to see one of the most public fathers of our time in one of the great public scourges revealed as a serial rapist. for you, how difficult was it for you to come to the conclusion this is something you needed to write about? >> well, i wanted to write about it for some time. you know, you write things, you know, people see the final product of the work writers and journalists do. but for me, you know, writing is always about a process. it's a road. so what i wrote is where i was at 2007, 2008 at that point. but i had certain beliefs. you know, i was aware of the accusations. at that time, it was 13, accusations at that point. it really defied, you know my skeptical -- out of nowhere decide to concoct these
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allegations. my one regret is that i didn't really take it as seriously as a journalist as i should have. it would have required, you know, a level of reporting, a level of scrutiny, an amount of reporting, frankly, and an amount of scrutiny that went over top what was in that article. >> and, you know, you write about, because at the time, you were covering mr. cosby. because of things lia series of public pronouncements that talked about politic morality and the responsibility african-americans had for the positions they had themselves in. and an interesting piece in "new republic" in which she writes one of the reasons he was so lionized in white america, he was presenting what she called the white blamelessness that made his television show such a bomb to white audiences. and when he was out there was all too real. it earned him sharp criticism.
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so you were really focused on that at that time, right? >> i was. and, you know, i'd been writing critically, you know, about bill cosby. all the way back to 2004, before the allegations came up. and i zeroed in that sort of way and presented the story that i was going to write for "the atlantic" in that way. it's interesting, that actually bothers me more. there's an entire population of journalists who had to do the work of, you know, sort of realizing bill cosby may not be, you know, just some dude that hustles pudding pops or may not be cliff huxtable. in many ways looking on it now, i feel like i was really, really positioned. i already had the skepticism intact. you know, to tackle the issue a little bit more effectively. >> there's a difficulty of something that in some cases happened decades ago that you don't really have. it's difficult to advance a story without people that are talking without any evidence on the table. but the other thing, and this is -- i want to read one other
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thing. >> i just -- i'm sorry, i just want to interrupt. there are ways of doing it. you know, as journalists, there are ways of doing it. there's a great book called the selling of clarence thomas where they go and report those allegations out. and they say, well, did you tell anybody about this at the time it happened? were there any people, at if you were a dinner proceeding the event. were there any people at the dinner? we don't have to be reduced to, you know, he said/she said. >> right. >> there are ways, i think, for journalists to do their job and to do more. >> yeah. and even also critiquing sort of the journalism over the years in looking at the charges. the other think rebecca writes is in addition to all of the rest of what goes into this in terms of his fame, america's terrible history of discrediting men was precisely the thing that might lead white liberals to reject the allegations.
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she says that about white liberals and their orientation toward the story. do you think for african-americans there might have been some other fraught, emotional bond with that narrative and not wanting to touch it that might have also made people resist the story? >> well, also, and you know, bill cosby is, you know, uniquely successful african-american. you know, here you have a guy that comes from the projects in philadelphia, becomes successful, creates, you know, what some people have called the perfect sitcom, and with his wife, and that family becomes sort of icon. for the entire country. and all the -- people don't know this about bill cosby, he's giving money to african-american institutions. giving money to african-american causes. you know, on the down low, not so much publicly. but, you know, people have been around. very much know that. and so among, you know, activist black people, respectable activist, bill cosby had a
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certain standing, reputation. i think there was some hesitancy to touch that. given some of the things that bill cosby had already said, i didn't really have that skepticism. that is not, you know, something that held me back. but that was definitely present in the culture. >> yeah. well, explores his own orientation toward the story and the things he wishes he'd written. a lot of people are re-examining this situation as it unfolds. thank you so much for being here. >> thanks for having me, joy. >> and that wraps things up for the "reid report." be sure to visit us online at the reidreport@msnbc.com. health can change in a minute. so cvs health is changing healthcare. making it more accessible and affordable, with over 900 locations for walk-in medical care.
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our community. >> in just five hours, we will know the details of president obama's executive action to change our nation's broken immigration system. good afternoon, i am abby huntsman. 11 million undocumented immigrants living in the u.s. are waiting to learn if they are among the millions who might qualify for deferred action. allowing them to stay in the states with legal work permits. the executive action is expected to emphasize the importance of keeping families intact. regardless of where you fall on the politics tonight, the announcement will have major impacts on our nation. let's start with nbc's chris jansing at the white house. and chris, what details do you have about the president's plan? >> well, we know it's sweeping, it is the biggest change to the immigration system in almost 30 years. and we also know it's highly controversial and the republicans are very unhappy about it. we've known for a while it's going to impact nearly 5 million of the 11 million undocumented immigrants here in the united states. but we're getting some more information abouo