our community. >> in just five hours, we will know the details of president obama's executive action to change our nation's broken immigration system. good afternoon, i am abby huntsman. 11 million undocumented immigrants living in the u.s. are waiting to learn if they are among the millions who might qualify for deferred action. allowing them to stay in the states with legal work permits. the executive action is expected to emphasize the importance of keeping families intact. regardless of where you fall on the politics tonight, the announcement will have major impacts on our nation. let's start with nbc's chris jansing at the white house. and chris, what details do you have about the president's plan? >> well, we know it's sweeping, it is the biggest change to the immigration system in almost 30 years. and we also know it's highly controversial and the republicans are very unhappy about it. we've known for a while it's going to impact nearly 5 million of the 11 million undocumented immigrants here in the united states. but we're getting some more information about who exactly.

it provides a temporary reprieve for the parents of citizens of this country. so if they came here illegally, had a child, the child then grows up as a u.s. citizen, they could apply for this temporary reprieve. also expands the number of dreamers. those are the folks who also grew up here but are not legal, who were not born here, brought here usually as very young children and have grown up here, many of them who are of college age. it would not cover their parents, it would also not cover a farm worker, something that had been a big push. and a lot of this, frankly, is about whether or not the white house could find a legal justification. >> we're also hearing the white house is prepping its legal defense for possible challenges. what are they expecting? >> well, obviously, they know that the republicans are going to push back hard about this. i've been joking this is the immigration lawyer of full employment act. on both sides, they're looking at what they can do. based on what we thought we could legally justify, they feel

very confident they're not going to have a problem with that, the republicans see things differently. they're going to make a push in a legal realm and also in the legislative realm. now, that's going to be tough. a lot of these programs are self-funding. it's not something that congress can take money away from, they're looking closely at that, abby. >> thank you as always. let's now bring in telemundo host, he's in washington tonight. great to have you on the show. >> thanks. >> you had a young man on your show this morning, someone legally living here in the united states, his parents are not, they were sent back home. let's take a little bit of that this morning. >> there's a lot of families that are split up, and are still under the risk of getting split up. it's really hard. especially for me as a student perspective of being away from your parents. and only seeing them a couple times a year and, yes, i am

fortunate enough to be a u.s. citizen. but it's hard. i don't think a lot of people out there see the side. we do struggle, and we're still struggling, and hopefully obama takes care of it today. >> it's heartwrenching to hear these stories. what impact will the president's announcement have on so many of these families? >> an immediate impact on so many families living in the united states. many of them for many, many years. and they go through their lives every day fearing that a father or mother could get picked up and be deported at any minute. imagine how things are going to change for that family. you know, they're called mix status families because you have some family members born in the united states that were legal residents of this country. and then parents who aren't. and so the possibility of a family being ripped apart are very real on a daily basis for literally millions and millions of people. and i want to add something that

the brilliant chris jansing who reports also on before anybody else does on these issues and every issue. one of the things i think is important to say is that those kids born in the united states or illegal resz deidents, it ca be that the president is going to say, if you arrived last month and had a child born in the united states, well, then you're going to qualify. as in all immigration issues, there has to be a cutoff point of either five years or ten years far back you've been living in the united states in order to qualify for that. so if you've been living in the united states for let's say five years or more and have children in the united states, you will be starting in the next couple of months when this gets instituted be able to come out from under the shadows and not fear being ripped apart any day. >> i want to get you to drill down a little bit on something you were talking about, something we've talked about before. you talk about the mixed status families. there are 16.6 million american citizens who are in these mix

status families constantly worrying about somebody in their family, perhaps a parent, quite often a father being deported and their life changing. even if they're not deported, they're living in constant fear and anxiety around this deportation happening. can you talk about what that is like to live in that sort of a family, live in that sort of situation where you are constantly afraid of the breadwinner or your mother being deported? >> i see it every day. i see it literally every day numerous times. and i can give you an example. in south florida some time ago. i met a nicaraguan man who didn't qualify last time there was a shift in immigration. so he was actually -- his wife and he are both undocumented. and they have some u.s.-born children. the wife was picked up. as she was dropping off her children at the school bus stop, outside their home. so she was picked up. and she was deported.

and then he lived every single day in fear that they would come for him because they know he's undocumented because of the process of deporting his wife. the children lived every single day fearing that one day there would be a knock on the door and it would be i.c.e. to get their father and they would be left completely orphaned. and it happened some time after that. there was a knock on the door, it was a rainy night, and when he opened the door, he saw it was federal officials and he bolted out the backyard and he ran in the rain and in the mud and got away from them. they had to leave their house and go house to house with neighbors and friends and people who would put them up because they feared that family would be torn apart. now, regardless of how you feel about immigration, is that something that you shouldn't think is important to deal with one with way or another? it happens every single day. a thousand deportations plus every single day in this country. >> yeah. i think those stories are so important to share, jose. people really get that human impact.

i want to take another look at another interview of a mother undocumented status who is thinking about what tonight's announcement could mean for her daughter. let's take a listen. >> i have one daughter. and i bring her to the united states when she was 6 months born. so this is good for my daughter, too. because she can go to the university. she can go -- have better life. >> how long have you been in the united states? >> almost 13 years. >> jose, specifically for the group that we call the dreamers, what could tonight's announcement mean? >> well, dreamers here in this country, brought here through no fault of their own by undocumented parents and don't have a mixed status family household, well, they're out of luck, those parents will not qualify. i asked the president about that for years now. he says that's simply something

i don't see the legality of doing, including parents of deferred action kids. and it seems like that will not be included in tonight's announcement. a lot of people ask me, how can that lady be here for 14 years and not speak english better? well, among other things, they live in fear every single day of walking out the door. and they don't have opportunities you and i do to have this conversation. they don't have the voice to be sharing ideas, concepts and dreams with and going to school because the simple act of walking outside their home is an act of courage and it's an act of fear because they could get picked up. if those people could come out from under the shadows like maybe millions will be able to come out in short order, they'll be able to speak english. because what they want to do is be part of this community, participate more and be a substantial important element in the economy here. it's not because they don't want to learn english, it's because they have to live in the shadows in fear of being picked up when

a mother goes to a bus stop to drop their children off to go to school. >> you mentioned that exchange with the president, let's listen to that. >> that's a question everybody asks. won't you at least consider unilaterally freezing deportations for the parents of deferred action kids. >> young people who basically have grown up here are americans that we should welcome. we're not going to have them operate under a shadow. but if we start broadening that, then essentially i would be ignoring the law. in a way that i think would be very difficult to defend legally. that's not an option. >> now, jose, that's obviously gotten a lot of attention. you've spoken about it. as a legal matter regardless of which particular group you're speaking about there, the idea of it not being an option because it would be somehow off the table is not what the president's claiming now.

>> i'm not so sure. let me try to parse these words and concepts. the white house has been saying that the president said he didn't have the legal authority when asked by groups or journalists why wouldn't he institute by presidential authority a senate bill, for example. that is simply not true. i and many of other colleagues never asked about the president taking executive action. on the other hand, he was very clear in that there are some things he felt he could not do. like, for example, increase for the parents of the kids. but he feels now there are some things he can do, including, u.s. citizen children. >> i think legally, when you talk about deferred enforcement,

you know, you have over 4,000 federal crimes on the books, there's always a sense of prior to prioritization going on here. perhaps, we wonder, because he hadn't spent as much time on the issue as some of these groups that you've covered and spent time with have done that he hadn't really studied up yet on what all the options were, i wonder. >> no. no. he's been thinking about this -- there are a number of reasons i can tell you that i know for a fact that he has been thinking about this issue, he's been talking about this issue off the record, for many, many years. the question is -- here's the question i have. well, where were all of the efforts by the house and the senate and the president to work together and try to see if, well, the senate passes this bill, which the house clearly doesn't feel they can pass? can they pass it piecemeal? i wonder if some of the efforts could not have been more of, let's bring in the people, let's have dinners in the senate and

the house and see if there's anything that we can do to mitigate that which one side won't agree with. but let's try to, the pressure so that all the sides can work together. but i do know for a fact, i can speak with authority on that, has been talking about this and thinking about this for many, many years. >> i think it's important to clarify that. no one is better at bringing these stories to the surface than you, thank you so much for being with us. >> thank you so much. up next, the politics of all of this with republicans warning executive action means war. plus, the hits keep coming for folks socked in by snovember. and smu police are briefing on the shooting in the library late last night. three were shot, two are still being treated. one has been released. police just confirmed that gunman was an fsu alum. he was ultimately shot dead by police. we continue to monitor that presser.

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rachel maddow and chris hayes are leading our coverage tonight at the big immigration speech. of course, republicans are threatening a government shutdown or defunding homeland security in some way. texas governor rick perry, meanwhile, threatening to sue the president. the white house and democrats today have been defending, though, this expected decision. >> does he have blanket authority to include 5 or 5 1/2 million people in the united states in one pen stroke? >> well, the president does have significant authority.

and this is authority that's invested in the executive branch of the united states. this is authority that previous presidents, both democrats and republicans have used. >> so this is pretty exciting. it's bold, it's courageous, it's as good as it can be under the law. >> recent poll numbers should give the president both hope and some caution for what he is about to do. we have cycle legend steve kornacki going to break all of that down. >> hello. >> man coming to us from the republican governor's association meeting down in florida, zeke miller. how are you guys doing? >> good. >> good, zeke, let's start with you. "the cycle" was down in washington yesterday. we got to see president clinton give a big speech where he spoke out on this issue. and i caught up with him briefly at that event about obama's expected action. and president clinton told me. he said i'm for it. and he said if anything, this will strengthen obama's chances with congress on the idea that as we've been discussing today, they had their chance, they blew it, he's going to act if they

ever want to get in on a policy process and amend, they can do that, as well. either way, what is your view of how this is going down? and doesn't the congress have a problem here in pretending that the president doesn't have the authority to do prosecutorial discretion which presidents have had since the constitution was written? >> well, that's certainly something we've heard from republicans across the board here. we've heard many governors threaten to sue us as we mentioned earlier in the show. certainly, they're going to have to find a way to deal with this. the president's putting republicans in a very difficult spot here given, you know, they ran against immigration reform in 2014. they need to find a way to evolve by 2016. this is going to be something they're going to have to deal with. they both have to oppose the president because they're the opposition party, by they can't oppose him all the way or risk alienate a huge swath of the electorate. >> just this morning, spoke to

"morning joe," here's what she had to say. >> so what he has done, he's asked the justice department and homeland security to look and see what he can do legally. and those are reactions he's going to take. you know, this is just going to be the first step in solving the problem. it's not going to take care of the whole population by any means. it's not kind of permanent solution. we're going to need legislation, and we're going to want to work with congress to do that. >> what the president's doing is a small piece of this as she was saying. and now expecting congress to then pass legislation. as ari's been reporting, had spoke to president clinton last night, he thinks this will strengthen the relationship with congress. i tend to totally disagree with that. i think if anything, republicans see this as the president basically giving them the middle finger saying i'm not willing to wait until this new congress comes in. in my opinion, this is potentially bad politics. you already have republicans threatening to sue him. and as you pointed out, we have a majority of the country that are not supportive of executive

action on this. >> yes, let me do a very bill clinton thing here and try to have it both ways. long-term politics on this, i think, and zeke was explaining this. the long-term politics on this i think are really problematic for republicans. no surprise there, we've been talking about this for years. they haven't gotten their signals straight. they haven't yet, they need to. there is a short-term political problem for the president. the bottom line number when you look at the polling. new "wall street journal" poll shows 38% of americans support the pending executive action he's about to take, 48% opposed. the reason for that is there's a disconnect here, basically a disconnect between policy where americans broadly support the idea of immigration reform, path to citizenship, these sorts of things and process. and if you look in that poll, there's a couple of questions that stand out. number one, do you want the officials to be compromising or acting on their own. compromise wins with like 63%. overwhelming, don't act on your own. the president said, hey, i tried

to compromise. but people are looking at this with a broad lens. the second question, though, more striking to me is, okay, you want compromise, you want the president working with congress. who should be leading in those conversations? and by a 56% to 33% margin, people say congress and not the president. there's a process policy disconnect here, and i think all that republican rhetoric about he's going it alone, it's dangerous, all these things, it feeds into that. that's the short-term problem politically the president has here. >> i don't know how much longer the president is supposed to wait. congress has never been open to doing something even the bipartisan gang of eight tried to do something, got something out of the senate, the house, it was doa as soon as it left the senate. this is a huge challenge for republicans now. how do they deal with this executive action that we expect? senator flake says, hey, let's respond with legislation. that's a positive response. others are saying, maybe we should go back to the extreme tactics. defunding, you know, maybe try

impeachment. they say we're not going to shut down the government. why do you keep saying it if you're not going to shut it down, you don't need to keep saying it over and over. what do republicans do now when this executive action becomes a reality? >> well, the first thing, i think, and you had just right is avoid the shutdown on december 11th. that's something that every governor here in boca has said, the leadership on capitol hill has said. get through the year, short-term cr and when the senate majority takes over, expanded house republican majority takes over, then they can start legislating. what do they start with? right now, more on the border security front. again, it's been a controversial issue. we saw the politics of that change over the summer. when we had the central american children coming over and turning themselves over to get to be -- two border patrol agents. that changed the politics nationwide over the summer and contributed to the delay that the president, you know, promised at the end of the summer to after the midterm

elections. you're going to hear a lot of republicans and certainly we've heard all the governors complain so far about the process not the substance, but the process, the way the president's acting here unilaterally, not waiting until the new congress is seated and reaching across the aisle, seeing if maybe he can get a deal. it's likely they couldn't get a deal even if they waited 4 or 5 months, they probably now can't get a deal certainly because of what the president's about to announce tonight. you're going to see the republicans complaining more about the process than the policy. >> very interesting. let's see, while we have you here, there's another story i had to get your thoughts on, which is former virginia senator jim webb announcing he's forming a presidential exploratory committee potentially making 2016 a bit more interesting. as you know, he ran in 2006 in opposition to the iraq war, wore his son's combat boots while he was stumping and made a name for himself there. and economic populist and all

those sorts of things. an interesting profile. >> yeah, really interesting. it's interesting because there's -- we always say with hillary clinton is there an opening to her left? and in 2008, obviously the biggest opening was on the question of war in the iraq war and that's around the time that jim webb came to prominence. now we say maybe it's on somebody with the elizabeth warren and economic populism. a lot of the appeal within virginia and you know this, crystal, more rural, more conservative. he had appeals on guns and other things. but he's in that elizabeth warren camp. there's a little bit of room there maybe on the left. i don't think there's the kind of room that there was in 2008 with the war. i don't know that jim webb has a major constituency where we're going to see all sorts of endorsements and things. i will say, i think it shows he's in now, maybe two or three others will come after him. she's clearly the overwhelming favorite and even in 2008. it will not be -- competition.

i think this shows there will be competition. >> yeah. >> the thing about presidential races. oh, go ahead. >> well, is he the right candidate for that? you look at the announcement video, low-quality production, something almost out of the '90s, standard definition, it was not sort of ready for prime time. th that's, you know, there are other people, elizabeth warren may be to the left that wants to do this. jim webb is not maybe the standard bearer of that movement. >> bringing the youtube test to the early -- >> what's that? >> thanks for joining us from out there, and steve, thanks for being with us here. and straight ahead, the winter wallop in the middle of fall, how about another 3 feet on the way? holiday excitement. at the volkswagen sign-then-drive event. right now, for practically just your signature, you could drive home for the holidays in a new volkswagen. like the sporty, advanced new jetta and the precisely engineered passat tdi. ah, the gift of clean diesel. for the new volkswagen on your list this year,

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right now, upstate new york is dealing with a weather event of epic proportions. an incredible late fall snowstorm has dropped 5 feet of

snow near buffalo. and it's nowhere near done. in fact, today's dylan dreyer e-mailed to tell us another 18 inches dropped. whiteout conditions and even though i'm pretty sure this isn't a weather term dylan told us is, quote, coming down like crazy. well said there, dylan. more on the forecast in a minute. let's start right now where the action is. right outside of buffalo. sara, what's the latest there? >> reporter: well, good evening, krystal. you mentioned 5 feet in some areas, and expecting 2 to 3 feet in other areas here, as well. and everywhere you look, you can really see the impact of these storms from these rooftops piled with snow to the street signs just barely peeking above all this. this is a storm that's impacting the lives of everyone who lives around here. authorities have warned people to please stay inside and stay off the roads. for some people, that's really not even an option to leave their homes. they are trapped inside by all

of this snow relying on neighbors to bring them food and supplies to get them through the next few days. it is not the amount of snow in buffalo. people are used to dealing with these with feet and feet of snow throughout an entire winter, it is the time frame it dropped since tuesday. it has been snowing on and off creating these very dangerous conditions. right now, at least eight deaths blamed directly on this storm. a combination of pre-existing medical conditions. we know of a heart attack and elderly man going to get his snowblower a little earlier. authorities really cautious about this. they're warning people to please stay off the roads so they can go help these other folks that are at home and have regular medical calls they need help. we had about 100 people stranded along a stretch of thoroughway. they have managed to get all of those people out of their vehicles. a lot of those vehicles remain on the road stranded there as crews attempt to dig them out. they're describing this as a

three-part storm. we're in phase two right now. and part three is supposed to hit this weekend when the temperatures, believe it or not, begin to warm up. we're going to see some of this snow melt. that could lead to possible flooding conditions. nothing anyone in this area is looking forward to. >> those images and the conditions just unbelievable. thank you so much, and now let's get your latest forecast. >> hi, guys. well, here's a look at the radar right now. you can see, this is a pretty narrow band of lake effect snow we're looking at. 10 miles wide and starting to push further up to the north. so that's where the hardest area has been hit with this lake effect snow through the southern suburbs of buffalo. that is going to continue until friday. then this snow machine shuts down. here's a look at lake erie. i was checking the temperatures in the eastern part of the lake. the temperatures are anywhere from 45 to 54 degrees. so that's what causes this lake effect snow. we have air temperature in the 20s and it's moving over that warmer body of water.

that lake snow hasn't had a chance to freeze because it's not even winter yet. so here's a little bit of a closer look. and you can still see in hamburg, that's where we've been looking at those shots all day long. and they have a lot of snow. the snow still coming down at a pretty good clip. they're still dealing with snowfall in some areas about 3 to 4 inches per hour. the snow machine shuts off by friday. they could have lingering flurries. but for the most part, it ends. the winds start to shift coming out of the south. that will start to warm up not only buffalo, but also all of the east coast. so tomorrow it's still chilly. it gets a little bit better, though, in buffalo as the snow shuts off. and then, guess what, guys, rain comes into the forecast. by saturday, a little bit of rain, near 60 degrees in buffalo by monday, which means there's going to be a fast snow melt and also flooding will be the big story for buffalo next week. so, unfortunately, it's just more insult to injury for them. >> all right. we'll keep our eye on that. thank you so much.

so today, we are calling it the spin icicle. and i made steve kornacki say -- because identify never seen you happier than when you talked about the blizzard of '78. >> i don't know if nationally, this is a seminole event in new england history. my sister was born during the storm. dropped this kind of snow in boston. my dad has a story of being on route 128, the major artery outside boston and got so thick with snow, everybody, you stopped your car, no choice, you couldn't see. everybody has to abandon their cars. three days later -- >> i remember my dad walking miles to get milk and water for us because you couldn't drive around the blizzard of '78. the snow is everywhere. that snow up to the street sign, that was nothing. and they got to do -- they were playing football game in buffalo on sunday, bills/ajets.

if you show up at the stadium, they're paying you $10 an hour, you'll shovel snow. you get a free ticket to the game. what kind of reward is that? >> now, we were arguing before the show, who does this snow benefit more? i think it benefits the jets more because they have the quarterback who can just take the ball and run -- >> the only thing that benefits the jets right now is the end of the season. here's my snow football story. and another ancient new england history story. favorite play of all time in football. new england patriots miami dolphins, 1982, they are not a cold-weather team, they don't play in snow. there's snow all over the field, it's a blizzard, coming down the last play of the game. a field goal to win the game, can't see the hash mark. ron myer calls time-out, there's a guy sitting on the sideline with a snowplow. gives him a signal, sends him out in the field, he plows the hash mark, patriots kick the field goal and win the game.

>> that's amazing. >> people have had the best time on social media. they've been posting photos. here's the thing, i grew up in utah, we would look forward to these snow days. here's one, people are -- >> very creative. >> if you can plan ahead and go to costco and get chips and salsa and beers and other things, you can create a little -- >> definitely. >> absolutely. >> although i do feel bad for folks that weren't prepared because you're stuck. and -- >> as we've heard, it's going to rain and they're going to deal with flooding. >> that basketball team, the niagara women's basketball team, on the highway. you can't keep moving. and that snow is piling up so fast. it was there for 48 hours. >> steve, you should have been a meteorologist. >> you make me very happy, steve. thanks for sticking around. appreciate it. and up next, millennials have been left out in the cold despite the warming jobs market. but could that actually be a good thing long-term. and the best city for young people to get ahead are actually

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the latest jobs numbers were quite encouraging with the unemployment rate dropping to 5.8%. great. well, unless you are a recent college grad, for 20 to 24-year-olds, the unemployment rate has actually doubled 10.5%, the highest for any group outside of high school. so our next guest's career advice for the lucky millennials who do have a job might surprise you. this guy, our friend in atlanta, derek thompson said you should actually quit. >> what? >> that's right. quit your job right now. lucky for us he's here to explain all of this to us. i'm like you, i'm quite conservative. when my friends tell me, look,

i'm not happy, i want to quit. and i say, no it's about climbing that ladder and paying your dues. you're saying this is not about bouncing around in one industry, it's changing industries altogether. >> yeah, i was with you. when friends came to me with career advice, i said stay in your job. and my best friend would say leave your job. when the economists came out with the report looking at youth unemployment and quit rates in our 20s and compared it with earnings later in our life in our 30s and 40s and found this common perception we have, people who quit their jobs a lot in their 20s, they don't know what they're doing. no, he said. using the labor market as a laboratory in your 20s is really useful. not only are you happier in the dream job in your 30s, also likely to make more money. do quit your job if you hate it. don't wait around and be satisfied with something that's actually making you miserable. >> sorry, torre, you're too late for that. >> wow. >> is it just for your 20s? >> yeah. because that's when you're earning the least.

we've seen in the information you were putting out. not only is the unemployment rate higher, but they're earning less, that means the opportunity cost of quitting is lower. >> on the age cohort and your article, sort of an interesting discussion kicking around the comment section. let me read the comments from your readers. they say there's a big difference between being 24 working at starting salary with room for growth in stallalary a skill. a young person has to be constantly seeking opportunities in order to become more valuable to employers. the older person has to do whatever they can to keep their skills marketable to stay employable. do you agree with your reader there? >> i love "the atlantic" commenters, this is a smart point. when i say quit your job, this is not a message for people between the age of 19 and 61. a message for people in their 20s. when you're not making a lot of money and entry level salaries are low right now. we've seen wage stagnation, you've talked about it. that -- the bright side of a low wage means that the cost of quitting that job is actually rather low. your wage grows as you enter

your late 20s, 30s and 40s. that's where you want to find a job where you can build mastery. where you're passionate about the job to become a superstar at it. use your 20s to find that career path. don't use it to get bogged down in an industry you hate. >> where are the millennials supposed to go for the jobs? this is some of the most depressing stuff you write about where the cities where there's the greatest potential for class mobility are the least affordable and the most affordable are where -- what's a millennial to do. >> the graph you can see right there. when you look at the places for opportunity, upward mobility, working your way into and out of the middle class. this place you don't want to be is the swath between the lower southeast through the rest belt into the great lakes. but then when you look at another graph of the places with another map, the places with the most affordable housing, it's precisely that red swath that has all of the blue in it that tells you move here, houses are cheap. if you think of the american

dream as being a combination of affordable living and a potential to work your way into and past the middle class, it turns out this american dream is splintering in a way. the cities with the best upward mobility in the west and east corridor, these are the places where you have the best chance of moving ahead but also the most expensive housing. that's the dilemma. >> you guys always write fascinatining stuff. turning now to sad news in the entertainment world. one of the giants of movies, tv and broadway, director mike nichols died last night at the age of 83. >> showbiz began with mike in the 1950s. and in '55 he paired with elaine may. and their brand of smart humor was born. >> welcome to long dust -- >> i read your ad. i'm interested in the $65 funeral. >> was that for yourself?

>> from then on, mike became a behind the camera power broker, he directed plays like barefoot in the park, the odd couple and love. he hit the movies big in 1967 by marrying a simon and garfunkle soundtrack with this number. the hits kept oncoming. with such films as "catch 22," "working girl," "primary colors," "bird cage" and "silk wood." and the epic drama "angels in america." >> what angel? >> mike was honored with all of the big four awards. oscar, emmy, grammy and tony.

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we don't have to worry about it. and i mentioned this because this book, did i mention i have a book? it's about -- it's about primer, a primer on evolution and the m in all biology and there's very strong convergence between people who seem to believe that the earth is actually 6,000 years old and denial of climate change. >> not everyone is where you are when it comes to climate change. you have the chapter about the threat and the consequence of climate change. >> did you read the book? >> i read parts of it. >> i love you, ma'am. >> it seems that we cannot have a real debate because we either have someone like you. >> what do you want to debate. >> or you have someone who says i don't believe that this is real. how do you have a productive debate with someone who is a climate change denier? >> we chip away. what i say about anybody about an issue like this, when you're brought up with it. say you're a senator from oklahoma, shooting from the hip

and your nearest neighbor is a half a mile away, it just seems literally incredible that the human population could change the climate of the world and that guy, you're not going to change his mind in an afternoon, but i believe if we chip away at it, just continually bring it up and we can get to work on it. so thank you for having me on the show, because i think the main thing we can do right now is talk about climate change. if we made it a part of our everyday conversation then this would take on more meaning for people. in the scientific community, there's no debate about climate change is by many reckonings is stronger than the correlation between cigarettes and cancer. >> you put it like that, but in the scientific world this isn't an issue and let's talk about

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last week i read a headline in the new york times opinion page that sort of caught me off guard. it read are democrats losing the youth vote? i actually had to read it a couple of times because i thought i must have read it wrong. the democrats had a rough midterm cycle, but to suggest they're losing the young people. wasn't it this wave of young people that overwhelmingly supported prdz in 2008?" time" magazine even coined it the year of the youth vote. it wasn't just in 2008. in 2012 more than 60% of young people voted. the huffington post ran a piece after that election and said youth vote gap suggests republicans risk losing an entire generation. the actual numbers suggest that the party's grip on young people may actually be loosening. young voters backed house

democrats 54% to 43%, that's half the advantage they had in 2006 and two points lower than 2010 and yet the get out the vote was hipper and cooler than ever. rock the vote had a number of videos which is one of ari's favorites and the young people weren't having it. it was that more young people were drawn to the republican party? probably not because when you look at the facts they actually suggest something different. a recent pew survey found 40% of millennials in 2007 considered themselves independents. that has jumped now to 50% and what's even more surprising is that 31% believe there's not a great deal of difference between what republicans and democrats stand for. what it comes down to is young people want nothing to do with either party. let ate go back to the huffington post matter. what it should say is the youth vote gap suggests republicans and dechl democrats risk losing an entire generation of young people. for half of this next

generation, party identity is meaningless. we are socially liberal, but also willing to support conservatives and you may say the young people come and go. it's not that big of a deal, but it actually is. they now represent about 1/6 of the electorate. in 2008 nearly 55% of young people between the ages of 18 and 29, rather, voted making up 18% of the electorate. they even beat out the 65 and older voting bloc. young people can be motivated to vote, but they need to be spoken to and what they're asking for is pretty simple for the parties to move away from the fringes and back to the middle. they want a little bit more common sense. as both parties do their own version of an autopsy leading to 2016. maybe they should consider the fact that success can very well depend on how they appeal to the next generation and whether we find anything they say worth listening to and more importantly worth voting for. that does it for "the cycle."

"now" with alex wagner begins right now. the biggest win for immigrants in a quarter century. it's thursday, november 20th and this is "now." >> it's been a long road to get here. ♪ ♪ >> president obama tonight will address the nation. >> to shield as many as 5 million undocumented immigrants from deportation. >> part of keeping america prosperous and keeping america strong. >> where does the president get to issue work permits. >> there's a human element to it. >> millions of american citizen families. >> many of those people pay taxes and love their children. >> this is blocking people's fundamental confidence in their government. >> >> this is what the president is facing. >> even the hits panic community is not happy about what he's going to do tonight. >> it's very exciting for the immigrant rights commun