making the statement. >> house republicans filed a lawsuit against the white house for slow walking a law they oppose. that's all for now. "the ed show" is up next. good evening, americans and welcome to "the ed show" live from detroit lakes, minnesota. let's get to work. ♪ >> this is a first step. it's not the only step. >> he's not an emperor. >> emperor in chief, obama. >> the president is taking that executive pen and slapping it across the face. >> pass a bill. >> he picked a fight. >> asking your viewers to join us at high noon. >> let's love people. >> scripture tells us. >> that is outrageous. >> this is the christian left at

work. >> he is damaging the presidency itself. >> good to have you with us tonight. thanks for watching. isn't this the perfect time, the perfect time for the republicans to step up and say -- we're going to show president obama what legislative power is all about. this is the perfect time. everything's in line now for the republicans to step up and say we can do better than the president. we have the legislative power we're going to pass a bill and show this country that we are concerned about immigration in this country and we're going to do something about it. because we are the republican party and the party of the people. i thought for sure that's what we were going to hear today from the republicans. this is their chance. mitch mcconnell can signature something better than harry reid did in the senate and get john boehner to pass it. but as i have maintained on this program for years, the republicans have never been

serious and they will never be serious about immigration reform in america. bottom line now they have a political target and it's the same old guy, it's the president of the united states. we start with the heated topic of immigration. president obama just wrapped up an event in las vegas highlighting his executive order, his action on immigration. the president said it's well past time we fix our broken immigration system. >> our immigration system has been broken for a very long time and everybody knows it. you've got families who try to come here the right way but get separated or stuck in line for years. you've got business owners who are doing the right thing by their workers offering good wages and benefits and then you've got companies that are ignoring minimum wage laws or overtime laws, take advantage of undocumented immigrants and as as a consequence undercutting the employers who are doing the right thing. all of us take offense the idea

that anybody can reap the rewards of living in america without its responsibilities and folks like a is. trid and her parents who want to make amends embrace the responsibilities of living here they are forced to live in the shadows or risk having their families torn apart. we've known about this for years and we've known we can do better and for years we haven't done much about it. well, today, we're doing something about it. >> this is no time for the liberals in this country to lose their cool on this issue. the president is showing a tremendous amount of passion and i'm really surprised that no one on the republican side is as passionate about it as the president of the united states. certainly if that sound bite if you go back and see what the president said you would think the republicans would say, you know what, we can address those things and we're serious about it and going to do better than the president. here are the details of

president obama's executive action. the president will continue to deploy more resources to strengthen border enforcement. and hold it right. there this president, the man you're looking at right there, has done three-fold what the last administration did when it comes to resources on the border, when it comes to surveillance and overtime and manpower. he did that and is going to up some more. the white house will focus on deporting undocumented immigrants who recently crossed the border. the plan will allow up to 4 million undocumented workers to stay in this country by granting them work permits. what they have to do is they must have been in this country for over five years. they must pass a background check. that's a guideline. they've got to pay their taxes.

it's not a freebie. it focuses on deporting felons, not families and he is asking congress for help. he's saying, let's get it on. do something. up what i've done. the bipartisan bill passed in the senate would do what? strengthen the border security adding 20,000 agents. that's a good thing. crack down on companies who hire undocumented immigrants. and provide a pathway to earn citizenship for undocumented immigrants who pay fines, pay taxes, pass a background check and learn english. they agreed on that but can't get it done in the house. president obama called out house republicans for failing to vote on the bill. >> it has now been 512 days. a year and a half. in which the only thing standing

in the way of that bipartisan bill and my desk so that i can sign that bill, the only thing that's been standing in the way is a simple yes or no vote in the house of representatives. just a yes or no vote. if they had allowed a vote on that kind of bill, it would have passed. i would have signed it. it would be the law right now. the party leadership in the house of representatives would not let it come forward. and i cajoled and i called and i met. i total john boehner i'll wash your car. i'll walk your dog, whatever you need to do, just call the bill. that's how democracy is supposed to work. and if the votes hadn't been there, then we would have had to start over. but at least give at shot. and he didn't do it. >> well, there's one thing for sure, if president obama and

john boehner ever play golf again they have something to talk about on the tee box, don't they? republicans have failed to act on immigration. it was in their court. they didn't do it. it's why president obama has taken the common sense steps to fix our broken immigration system on his own. i wasn't sure the president was doing the right thing here. because you could do a lot with legislative power. you call him out in front of the american people and it's not a political move what the president did because if he wanted to play politics he would have done it about a week before the mid-term election which a lot of progressives in this country wanted him to do. but, know, he let the democrats go out on their own and listened to the people in the senate and said i won't do an executive action until after the election. we'll play it your way. the president is out of patience and has moved on it. it's mcconnell's chance to step up. but all we hear is criticism.

for now, let's bring in a congressman from arizona. did the president go far enough? is this the right fix, in your upon? >> it is an urgent and necessary fix. did he go far enough and he went as far as is legally defensible and constitutional defensible. more could be done but it's the real long-term solution is reforming the immigration law. that's what's been sitting on boehner's desk now for a year and a half. that's the solution. what the president did is provide relief. what the president did is both humanitarian and good for the economy. a lot of bravery on his part and like you said, every effort from pleading to compromise to asking and making public opinion on the side of boehner doing something, nothing moved. and as a consequence, the president has moved. now i hope this prods the

republican leadership in congress to do something. it's the -- the ball has been in their court. it remains in their court. for them to blame the president that he has somehow poisoned the well in terms of getting something done or any other legislation this next session, i think is just an excuse. we've heard nothing but excuses. immigration is political cannon fodder for them. they don't want to deal with the issue. i'm sorry, the leadership in the house dropped the ball. it's still in their court. >> is this the perfect time for the republicans to prove that they are serious about immigration reform. because anything they pass or send to the president and the president signs it it's going wipe out what the president has done in an executive action. it's almost as if the republicans are perfectly positioned to take up this subject right now. your thoughts? >> i agree.

the control of the senate and the house there, are no more excuses. the president has indicated and showed a great deal of patience, more patient than many of us felt was necessary on the issue. but the fact remains that it's their turn. and they have the power, the legislative power. they control the process and it is their opportunity to craft a bill that responds to what the president was doing and expands the protections and the path to citizenship for millions of americans and families. they can do that. it's up to them. and because the excuses are just that, excuses. there is no factual backing those, no legal back to them. and the threats of impeachment are false. the threats of shutting down the government are false. they can rattle all they want but it's at the end of the day the american people are going to recognize the lack of leadership and the fact that on this issue they can't seem to find their way.

>> and finally, congressman, do you think this will work? do you think that this really will effect families, they will come out and be identified, go through the background check, pay the taxes, be straight up with the law? do you think this will work? >> question only look at the daca and the response and courage of the young people. i'm convinced. the people that we know that come to our office for help in this process are honest, hard-working people. want to keep their families together. decent human beings. it's going to work and people are going to come forward because they've been waiting for this opportunity for more than a decade. >> okay. congressman, good to have you with us tonight. i appreciate your time. congratulations to you. thank you, sir. you bet. republican reaction to the immigration action has been

beyond duisturbing i think. every time the president does something the republicans don't like, here comes the name calling. john boehner at his finest earlier today. >> the president has taken actions that he, himself, has said are those of a king or an emperor. not an american president. with this action the president has chosen to deliberately sabotage any chance of enacting bipartisan reforms that he claims to seek. and as i told the president yesterday, he's damaging the presidency itself. >> the speaker made clear republicans will fight president obama on this issue. >> we're work with our members and look at the options that are available to us. but i will say to you, the house will in fact, act. >> the future senate majority leader is making similar threats on the senate floor. >> if president obama acts in defiance of the people and

imposes his will on the country congress will act. we are considering a variety of options. but make no mistake. make no mistake when the newly elected representatives of the people take their seats, they will act. >> republicans haven't said what actions they plan to say. but others are talk about a government shutdown and possible impeachment. outgoing congressman michele bachmann made remarks including, quote, the social cost will be profound on u.s. taxpayers, millions of unskilled illiterate foreign nationals coming to the united states who can't speak the english language even though the president says they won't be able to vote. we all know that many in all likelihood will vote. last night she said that congress needs to defund amnesty. >> and we can defund this president's illegal amnesty, that's what we must do.

we can't do it alone. it's a very quick three-step plan. we need your viewers. congress will be back december 1st through december 11th. this will be decided in that period of time. we need to have your viewers melt the phone lines. congress isn't here. they are gone from washington tonight. but from december 1st to the 11th. we need them to melt the phone lines. >> steve king of iowa had no problem telling the americans what he felt. >> i have a sinking feeling in my stomach about the situation that the president has the thrown this nation into. the president knows what he is doing. 22 times he has said he doesn't have the power to do this. but he did this anyway. it's hard to make a clear, concise constitutional argument on this given what the president's given us.

they are just vague descriptions. >> earlier today, bachmann and steve king went to the united states-mexico border to meet with border officials. a texas congressman thinks the president's plan is offensive to black americans. >> it is so offensive to the african-americans and hispanic-americans who have an enormously high unemployment rate. this president has come in and said, you know what, for political gain i am going to give 5 million people the authority to work here, even though that's illegal i'm going to do it. and that's going to leave 5 million people out in the cold. >> and it gets worse. alabama congressman mo brooks thinks that president obama can face jail time for his executive action. at some point you is to evaluate whether the president's conduct aids, abets or entices

foreigners to unlawfully cross into the united states of america. that has a five-year in jail penalty associated with it. the rhetoric and comments are outrageous. republican reaction is petty and childish, name calling, threats and talk of a government shutdown or impeachment. it does nothing to help this country. so america, it's going to be fun to sit back in the lazy boy and just watch the republicans reel and run this country legislatively. it's easier for them to target president obama as a political enemy of the country and try to tear down everything he's done. evidenced by the lawsuit they filed on health care. but this is also an opportunity to step forward, show us your leadership, mcconnell. show us your leadership, mr. boehner. tell us how you can do better. show us how you could do better. get your cell phones out. i want to know what you think.

tonight's question, has president obama boxed republicans in on immigration? text 5 f1 for ye-- a for yes or now. annette, i know last night you were with a lot of people who were watching the speech and the reaction. how was the reaction and where is this going to go? elation. there were a lot of applauses to a lot of the things to the president said and i think everybody was just very relieved that we were finally seeing only leadership from either side, honestly. what we needed was that and we got it from the president. he spoke passionately yesterday and today about how he feels about this and why he has to act because the republicans have

failed to act. 512 days we've waited for them to vote on a bill to pass in a bipartisan fashion in the senate. this crowd, which was obviously very eager to hear what he had to say was very, very happy. >> annette, you just got out of a very tight race for the lieutenant governorship in florida and rick scott won re-election. there was a tight race in colorado and north carolina. i think the president proved that it was not a political gain. because if he had done this before this election -- i'll ask you would it have had an impact on the elections in the mid-terms? >> in florida it would have. we barely lost by 1%. so honestly, i think all of us hispanics, definitely wanted to see that leadership from the president before. and i was one of the ones willing to criticize him for not doing it sooner. but i'm so happy he did it and

has done it and you are right. the cards are on the table. it's time for the republicans to show us if they really do care about hispanics and about immigration. >> henry, they're talking about a government shutdown and impeachment. the comments from the other side are clearly outrageous. it's across the board. is this going to work? >> so is the president's action going to work? absolutely. is the republican approach going to work? absolutely not. i think that what we're hearing now from republicans is really unfortunate. and i even heard a member of congress just fight violence as a response to that. let's be clear. any elected official who justifies violence isn't fit to serve. michele bachmann is calling for a rally on december 3rd? i think the only question with regard to her rally in washington, d.c. would be will the number of people who attend

be able to fit in a phone booth or a school bus. this is a great civil rights victory. i'm so proud of our president. millions of families went to sleep last night knowing for the first time that their mothers or grandmothers are not going to be deported. think about what that means. this is the kind of thing that is going to be written about in history books and history does not look fondly on those who are the wrong side of civil rights struggles. >> this is not about citizenship. this is work permits. what about that? >> this is a step in the right direction. but this has to be resolved legislatively. this is the opportunity for congress to act. they haven't acted for 18 months. that's a mistake. the senate did act with an incredible bipartisan bill. it was the only major piece of bipartisan complicated legislation that was passed through the senate.

but the house just sat on it. and the reason they sat on it is because it would have passed and that would have created problems inside the republican coalition in the house. this is an opportunity. it's an opportunity for american families. it's an economic opportunity. we're talking about huge economic growth. we're going to see about $20 billion in new taxes that are going to be paid as a result of this over the next five years. i do wish the republicans would act but the extremist side of their party is the one that's speak out and we're not hearing from main stream republicans saying we need immigration for this country to grow. >> you know, when the folks come out of the wood work and say they want to be the next president of the united states on the republican side they are all going to be asked in debates coming up would you repeal what president obama has done with executive action. and that's going to put them

further into the corner on immigration reform. the republicans are going to have to do something to help out their candidate in 2016. annette, tell me if i'm wrong on that? >> you're right. jeb bush already came out and said he believes this was a mistake by the president, which is really disappointing. because you know, i mean, i thought he was one of the ones that was pro immigration. but when you running for president you are not any more? i don't know. it's so sad. so sad. >> we'll have you both back. great to have you with us. a big day for america, no question about that. and this is a real opportunity now. for the republicans to prove that they deserved the votes that they've got. coming up. we are closer to a decision from the grand jury in ferguson, missouri. we'll bring you the latest. and we have breaking details about john boehner's lawsuit

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are you willing to let any president choose what laws to execute and what laws to change? are you willing to let anyone tear apart what our founders have built? >> welcome back to "the ed show." the republican attack on obamacare is headed to the courts. the suit alleges unconstitutional and lawful actions taken by the administration. health and human service secretary sylvia burr well and jacob lew and their departments are named as defendants, not the president. the lawsuit takes on the president's move to postpone the

employer mandate. parts are delayed a year and others two years. republicans are calling a cost sharing program an lawful give away. it will provide $175 billion to insurance companies in the next two years saying that congress has not appropriated funds for the program and the administration is using a separate treasury account for the payments. and the white house said instead of passing legislation to help expand the middle class and grow the economy, speaker boehner and house respects are spending hundreds of thousands of taxpayer dollar pursuing a lawsuit without a sound legal basis. the latest attack on the law that has provided 10 million people with incosurance in this country will be heard in district court. congressman what do you make of this lawsuit right now? the timing of it and the

specifics of it? what jumps at you? >> first of all it's just round three of attacks on the president in the courts. and this one is about as weak as they could possibly be. when you bring a lawsuit, you bring a lawsuit because someone has done something to damage you. that means you have standing. you've been damaged. the speaker has not been damaged the american people have not been damaged. the president is trying to provide health care for all americans. and the fact that he delayed it for a year, which is what john boehner said he wanted, now john boehner is attacking him for doing exactly what he asked the president to do. it's nonsensical when you look at it. they won't have it taken up by the court, i don't think. >> i find it ironic that the very industry that the republicans cozy up to, the insurance industry, they're

concerned about $175 billion to insurance companies and call it an unlawful give away. it's really ironic to say the least. but it's almost as if they'll write anything and try any angle at this point. do you think the president overstepped his authority in this case? >> absolutely not. the president had the opportunity to take comment from people and people said, well, if an employer has less than 50 employees, it's going to be a lot of problem for us to do it right away. could you give us another year. he gave them another year which is what john boehner wanted him to do. there is nothing in that that is wrong. the other issue whether or not he's giving subsidies to people buying insurance because they got it through a federal government exchange is really

twisting the whole meaning of the law. we want individuals to have responsibility to buy their own insurance. we know that some people can't. and you have to give them some subsidies. people up to 400% of poverty. so if you do that you are really helping them buy insurance and be responsible citizens and john boehner says he shouldn't have done it because they lived in a state where the governor was unwilling to be a participant in the program. it's another nonsensical kind of attack on the president's attempt to do what's right for the american people. >> crazy things happen if a courtroom. what if this lawsuit is successful? then what? >> well the law will come down. i mean, there's no question. if you start taking away the subsidies for people making between 20,000 and $56,000 a year they're not going to be

able to afford their health insurance. so they're not going to be able to get their own policy. therefore they're going to have to pay a fine. there's pressure. we want everyone to pay their fair share. we don't believe that americans should be free riders. if you are sick today they will take you to the hospital whether you have money or not. and the president says, let's try and fix that by getting everybody with insurance. and these guys on the other side they believe in responsibility but they simply don't want to help the average citizen, the middle class, pay for their insurance. it's nuts. >> and that is the way it is. congressman jim mcdermott thanks so much. we have new details coming out of ferguson, missouri. how the holiday week ahead could play a role. but next, ask ed live on "the ed show." we're right back.

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welcome back to "the ed show." three protesters were arrested overnight in ferguson, missouri.

demonstrations continue in the st. louis area. we are waiting to see what the grand jury is going to do, what their decision is going to be as to whether indict officer darren wilson. wilson has not been seen in public since fatally shooting an 18-year-old unarmed teenager in august. rumors are circulating about darren wilson's resignation. the jennings school district in ferguson is bracing for an announcement. schools will remain closed monday and tuesday due to a potential unrest. not even the thanksgiving holiday could keep best buy from closing its doors nationwide. protests will -- a spokesperson said they plan to close at least one of their stores when the grand jury decision comes out. eric holder released a video statement today calling for restraint. >> demonstrations like these have the potential to spark a sustained and positive national dialogue.

to provide momentum to a necessary conversation and to bring about critical reform. but history has also shown us that the most successful and enduring movements for change are those that adhere to nonaggression and nonviolence. i ask all those who seek to end their voice to important causes and discussions -- >> reverend tracy blackman and she a ferguson commission appointee also with us tonight, trymaine lee who is a msnbc reporter. great to have you with us. tracy, you first. the emotion is bottled up right now, reverend, what's being done on the ground to promote peaceful demonstrations in the aftermath of whatever decision is made? >> largely the protesters have been peaceful all along. we have made some efforts to

make sure that that continues throughout the announcement. we expect that people will flood into the streets. that really doesn't have anything to do with what the announcement might be. they're going to flood into the streets to celebrate or they're going to flood into the streets to mourn. we have designated churches as safe spaces for those who don't want to be in the midst of that crowd they can go there with family members if they don't want to be alone and be in places where people would gather to pray or spend time together. we will have places where should there be the unfortunate event of any escalation by law enforcement or by someone in the protest movement, we have churches that have cooperated with us to open their doors so that people who don't want to be in the middle of that, people who want just peaceful protest, will be able to go to those places in the event of anything like that.

>> rempbverend, i have to ask y. you know the community. if the grand jury does not render a decision on prosecution, what do you think the community's going to do? >> if the jury comes back and does not render a decision saying that darren wilson will indeed be indicted there will be great grief and great mourning and, yes, great anger in the community. but everyone on both sides of this, i pray, want peace. no one wants the community destroyed. we want to continue to move forward so whether he is indicted or whether he is not indicted, this movement does not stop. this has unearthed long-standing issues in the african-american community in ferguson, in st. louis, and beyond. and we want to use this opportunity to address those issues. so whether or not the indictment

is a bill or a no bill, we will continue lifting up these issues, lifting up dialogue, hopefully to move forward in positive and progressive ways to make stemmic changes in these communities. >> trymaine lee somehow the community responding to the arrests last night? >> after weeks of relative calm these new arrests and protests represent a return of vigor on the part of the protesters but also on the behalf of the police. you see one officer tackling one of the protesters. and so folks now are -- seem to be ratcheting themselves up for what may come down the pike in the coming days. the arrests symbolize a sign of things to come. >> what are the business owners

doing? are people nervous or afraid? what kiechbd of emotion are you seeing? >> certainly here on florissant avenue which is ground zero for many weeks you can't find a business that doesn't have their windows boarded up in anticipation of hundreds of people on the street and the possibility and fear of looting. but there are other locations that may very well also see protests like the shah neighborhood where another young black man was killed. in collate wherein the courthouse is. those businesses have not boarded up their shots. but there are conversations, how bad will it be? will law enforcement protect us? on the eve of what could be this announcement, the business owners are sitting on the edge of their seats and waiting. >> the businesses are boarded up not just for the possibility of

looting but they're also boarded up because we don't know what the aggression will be. should tear gas be thrown or rubber bullets again or wooden bullets again, all of those things present the possibility of damage to businesses and not just are they boarded up. but if you're out on the ground you know that there is a massive campaign that is being put on by protesters to put large pictures of hands on all of those boards to try to bring back the humanity focus in this. again, both sides need to want to move forward and both sides need to proceed can caution. >> reverend, i have to ask you, has law enforcement communicated to the community what they will or ra tolerate and where they will draw the line? >> law enforcement, my interactions is what i'm speaking with right now.

my interactions with law enforcement by myself and also with protesters has not been met with a large amount of disclosure. right now law enforcement is taking the stance at least publicly that no matter what protesters do that they will respond with aggression. that is problematic. because the people are going to exercise their first amendment rights and there are going to be acts of civil disobedience. it is important that we make a distinction between violence and civil disobedience. if one acts in civil disobedience, one might be arrested for that. by its nature it's breaking the law. if you say stay on the sidewalk and someone is blocking the street you have every right to arrest that person. we expect that but we expect to be treated with dignity wane our full humanity valid.

you can arrest someone without throwing them to the ground. there's no need for people to -- for the law enforcement to act extremely aggressively because masses of people are gathered. the protesters will -- will demonstration and will use their first amendment rights and that is no reason for violence to erupt. so i'm calling on both sides -- >> thank you, reverend. >> -- certainly the protesters can't control every that happens on their side and law enforcement can't control everything that happens on their side. i'm calling for peace from both sides. >> i appreciate that tonight. and trymaine lee, thank you for your report in ferguson. coming up, 100,000 and counting. the petition against the duggers is growing by the moment. details ahead. ♪ let us be lovers, we'll marry our fortunes together ♪

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show." 130,000 people have signed a petition call are if the cancellation of the show "19 kids and counting." critics say the families recent lgbt statements have gone too far. the city council in fayetteville was considering an anti-gay discrimination ordinance. >> the fayetteville city council is voting on an ordinance this tuesday night that would allow men -- yes, i said men -- to use women's and girls' rest rooms and other areas that are dedicated for females only. i don't believe the citizens of fayetteville would want males that with past child predator convictions, that claim they are fell, to have a legal right to enter private areas preserved for women and girls. we should never place the preference of an adult over the safety and innocence of a child. parents, who do you want

undressing next to your daughter at the public swimming pool's private changing area? >> the ordinance still passed t prohibits businesses and public accommodations from discriminating against people based on sexual orientation or gender identity. this isn't the first time the duggars have fear mongered. their oldest son work for a group labelled as a hate group. john, i surrender. i have to tell you, i don't watch this program. so -- but based on what i i've just been exposed to, why is this on tv? your thoughts? >> when i heard the comments, my thoughts were dug-a-what, dug-a-please. i don't think this show should be canceled. here's why. i'm not a fan of the show.

i don't know when the learning channel became the learn to be dumb channel. and i think if steven hawking had grown up with this network he'd have trouble with the whole your your thing. but enough americans have lost jobs in this economy already. i don't want to take the staff and crew lose their jobs as well. i think that having people say dumb things like that, if dumb was hair, she'd be a wooky, because this was a dumb, hateful thing she said. but i think the public benefits from this, because transgender phobia is a serious issue. not for a lot of people. but if you care about a minority, you do care about this. it was full of lies what she said and i'd love to break that down, but i don't think that cancelling the show, where these comments were not made, is a fair solution to these comments. >> and we'll have to leave it there. >> just remember -- >> go ahead, please. >> we've seen other shows go through controversy, like "duck

dynasty," phil robertson, i guess there was a suspension there and they're still back at it, but not with the same viewership. maybe the dugars will go through the same thing. appreciate your time. that's "the ed show." "politicsnation" with reverend al sharpton starts right now. >> good evening, ed, and thanks to you for tuning in. we start tonight with breaking news. republicans sue president obama over health care, and he takes action on immigration. a dramatic series of events today as president obama moved made with his executive action on immigration. signing two memos on board air force one as he flew to las vegas to sell his plan to start fixing america's broken immigration system. >> for years, we haven't done much about it. well, today we're doing