shooting. it's wednesday, november 26th and this is "now." >> there are two criminal justice systems in america. ♪ ♪ >> the michael brown has set off a storm across the country. >> los angeles, new york, boston, miami, portland and nashville. >> the second night was much calmer than the first. >> overwhelmingly they have been non-violent protests. >> through non-violent direct action ultimatery you can be successful. >> there are questions about the grand jury. >> bottom line is that this young man is dead, a lot of people feel someone should be held responsible. >> this is a problem we're seeing all over the place. >> black young men are not only treated worse on the street, but

in the court system. >> just got to keep fighting and pray for a better outcome. from coast to coast in 170 different cities, new york, los angeles, atlanta, minneapolis, dallas, oakland, boston and chicago, protesters are taking to the streets to protest the grand jury decision not to indict officer darren wilson in the fatal shooting of unarmed teenager michael brown. in new york city marching protesters holding signs saying hands up, don't shoot. and black lives matter. shut down the fdr highway and brooklyn bridge. in los angeles the 101 was shut down in both directions. earlier in san diego demonstratored closed down the 5 freeway and in cleveland route 2 was also shut down.

several hundred protesters took to the street over another police officers fatal shooting, that of 12-year-old tamiere rice. police released the vur veilance video of that shooting. shows him pointing a toy gun which police have circled in this tape. after receiving a 9-1-1 call from a by-stander, who thought the gun might be fake, we see police show up at the park and begin shooting at 12-year-old rice. joining me now director director of color exchange.org and director at ucla, thank you both for having me. phillip in the cleveland case, these are two trained police officers and a twelve-year-old with a toy gun, how in the world did this happen? >> well, i have to say that in the wake of the decision by the

grand jury and that announcement, law enforcement has been on edge all over the country. they've gotten for operational-use only memos from the fbi to expect protests and agitators and they're concerned with their safety. in that context when you anybody is heightened concern for their safety it becomes more dangerous and you couldn't have a more tragic consequence of that seeing a 12-year-old being shot and killed through that fatal misunderstanding. you just have to have better training on all of this. and in addition to your lives are in danger which is necessary for law enforcement, you got to -- got it -- got to have law enforcement get the message that this is the time to talk to the people that you're concerned with or suspected of being

dangerous. >> so given the rice shooting and the way the cleveland police have handled it this far how does this change what happened in ferguson. >> this is part of the on-going conversation that happens. over and over we see these moments rise up where black people are hurt or killed by police officers and we see no sense of accountability. we see this sense that investigations won't happen. that the folks who were hurt or killed, the victims are starting to be criminalized, made to be the per traitor. this does nothing to keep our community safe to be able to solve crimes and make our communities safe. so this really does under score what phillip and many other people have been talking about in terms of what type of reform or training do we need to put on the table to call for a national set of demands in terms what the

federal government can do to put trainings in place. anti-bias training in place. this doesn't serve law enforcement to be seen to help us and it does nothing to protect the lives of young black people who are consistently be put in harm's way. >> i want to bring your attention to a poll that shows a racial divide. whether darren wilson was at fault we see a big divide 22% of blacks compared to 64% of whites. >> how should we interpret that racial divide and do you see any hope closing it.

>> i don't see hope but that is the power of the protest all around this country. it is this country's history of protests and people standing up and making situations uncomfortable for people who may not experience it every day, bringing the issues to the front to force our pliolitical leadership. nationally there is more that can be done. this is a time for our leadership to be set up. there is a divide for people's experiences. it's the opportunity for our political leaders to step up. we're going to hold them accountable. >> how many police officers are getting killed on the job, last year we had the fewest killed in more than 50 years, 27 police officers slain in the line of duty. according to the bureau of labor

statistics, being a police officer is not on the list of top ten most dangerous professions so how should we 1307bd respond in terms of policing. >> 27 officers killed in the line of duty. one of the most dangerous part is driving the car, that's an important component of that. as much as it is not dangerous in terms of people being killed by the numbers it sure as heck feels dangerous because their job is to stand in front of the community and between the community and violence and there's no way to diminish the psychological reality of that. so i want to push back the idea of there being no danger to law enforcement that's not true. the divide that we've seen, that is not a new divide. that divide is getting smaller over time way too gradually.

it results from the lives of people who have experienced this kind of pleasing being made almost entirely advisable. if you think of the black faces that you see on the news or on television, when was the last time you saw a black man being arrested by law enforcement. i think of house of lies, that role, where an upper class black man is pulled over and treated badly as a result of his behavior towards law enforcement and the reality that you feel you have no control over your outcomes and the only people who do control your outcomes are groups of folks who don't care about you. that's the context, that's what is at stake where we say no this time i don't want to do it. so making that whole thing ledgible is key. >> so let me ask you quickly, dash board, lapel cameras, there's a call for police officers having these as standard practice in terms of

uniforms, what do you think in terms of actual reform. would this solve some of the problems, especially around the use of lethal force? >> absolutely it's a good idea. i'm glad folks are calling for it. law enforcement feels it will exxon rate a lot of them when they are falsely accused of things so it is a good idea. it is expensive and it will take a while. the thing is there will be areas like under cover work and responses to certain kinds of domestic violence and sex trafficking, i worry we're not paying enough attention to where law enforcement is having contact with woman. >> i think he's right. color of change is launching for a petition to call for lapel cameras and other national

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class. a stance dubbed by salon, the audacity. pete, the audacity of nope, are we going to see more and more of this over the next two years? >> certainly with republicans now taking control of the senate they have opportunity to send legislation that he will veto. he only used his veto power twice in his first six years, much like president bush in his final two years. that's not necessarily a bad thing for a president. sometimes they like to seen in opposition to ideas they don't see are popular. and the veto pen emphasizes that the president still has a role to play. in this case he is against not

just republicans ideas but a democrat plan that democrats are now scrambling to figure out what to do. >> that's what is interesting that he is going against senate democrats. announcing the veto the white house said, quote -- sounds a little bit to me like senator elizabeth warren language. >> yeah. the democrats after the election seemed to arrange a perfect circular firing squad and the volleying keeps going back and forth. there's a lot of tension between the president and democrats on the hill. a lot of democrats were on board and the president took the unusual step of saying he would veto it before he even saw the legislation. now the white house is saying they're taking the long view and trying to set up possibility of broader tax reformulator on. there's just a lot of bad blood

as we saw with chuck assushumers week. a lot of finger pointing is going on even though it won't get much done. the possibility of that are dim to start with. >> i want to go back to epa rules, president obama abannedoned a similar set of rules in 2011. reelection strategy tied to a shift on smog. guys like kevin mccarthy are asking hey mr. president what changed? is this a president obama who is free from any concerns about the future. >> you're right he's not running again and has latitude to go toward legacy items that wouldn't be politically-wise in his first term.

he has a advisor who can help him, in an area where the president can make progress without getting congress on board. if he's frustrated on health care and other issues where the congress isn't going to be working with him, the environment is one place he can leave his mark and walk out of the oval office in two years knowing he has done something that will stand in the history books even if republicans find a lot of fault with it. >> is there concern whether immigration or environment actions will hurt loretta lynn's or whoever is chuck hagel's replacement. >> we've been talk beiing about poisoning the well i don't think there's water left, it's all poison. to put those in more jeopardy. sure it does. eventually we will have to have

an attorney general and defense secretary. clearly this president is saying freedom is another word for nothing left to lose. he doesn't seem to care if he is putting the democrats in a bad position and he is quite eager to mix it up with mix mcconnell. >> we saw shumer come out and criticize the white house for going after health care early on. what do you think that's about. what's going on here with senator shumer criticizing the president? >> well what you got is a lame duck president who has lost his party's control over congress and the party is upset about it. they feel they no longer need to defer to each other and there's a lot of back and forth sniping, a lot of tension, finger pointing and not a lot of love lost between the president and

his party. shumer is making a political point. he's not saying health care was wrong thing to do as matter of policy but may be wrong thing to do in politics. it's something he wouldn't have said even just a few months ago. it does show there's a lot of bitterness heading out the door. >> let me read what nancy pelosi said -- she's referring to the number of people that have gotten insurance under obamacare. what is going on with democrats on the hill these days? >> that was tame compared to what former white house officials were say being chuck shumer yesterday. look, he made a ninepoint that have made before, but what does it matter now, obamacare is

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does that his right hand goes immediately in his waist band and his left hand a fist at his side and he starts charging me. >> what did you think when you saw that. >> i didn't know. is there a knife a brick what's in there. >> as you know some of the eye witnesses said as that moment he turned around and put his hands on. >> that would be uncorrect -- incorrect. >> no way? >> no way. >> so you say he starts to run. does the stuter steps, starts to come towards you? >> uh-huh. >> and? >> and then i gave myself another mental check, can i legally shoot this guy and the question i had to answer was i have to. he's already over powered me once. >> asked about wilson's account earlier michael brown's father said he didn't buy it. >> for one, my son wouldn't, he

respected law enforcement. two, who in they right mind would rush or charge at a police officer that has his gun, you know. that sounds crazy. >> the brown family's attorney said they plan to exhaust every legal option available to get some sense of justice. law professor i want to the get your reactions of darren wilson's description of that fateful moment. >> my reaction is like most african-americans in america. officer wilson is telling a fib. it just maybes no sense at all. i think what we know now, he's trying to defend himself and explain the fact he was not indicted. i got a call from ben crumbp a couple days ago and i'm joining

the forces, people who are thinking of civil actions against officer brown -- eh, officer wilson. we will make sure the parents of michael brown will be able to rest and figure out what has happened to our son. how we will vindicate his loss. i think the clergy, the lawyers, community activityistactivists, white, will be joining us and make sure this is a long term battle to making sure there is justice in america. we are going to go forward with it. >> i want to play a clip and get your reaction. >> sure. >> his hands were never at his waist. he had on basketball shorts. he couldn't -- he couldn't hold anything in his waist. his hands was up. he didn't have a belt on. it wouldn't stay at his waist even if he did, his hands were up, he never plunged at officer

in no type of manner he was explaining that he didn't have the a weapon and why are you shooting. >> what do we know about how those contradictory statements were presented to the grand jury. >> what we know it is very unusual like a police officer who is facing a charge to go before the grand jury and officer wilson spent more than four hours talk being ing about. michael brown was unarmed, has his hands up, said don't shoot, all these things are facts in the case. even witnessed who said they talk said the same thing. so there's a big difference. i support law enforcement. my sister was law enforcement officer. but the reality is what officer wilson did is beyond the pale

and it is time for us, not just in this case but other cases, to make sure we have boots on the ground making sure things are happening and making sure there's some sense of justice for the brown family understanding what happened to their son. >> the washington post columnist argues that it not wilson who is the problem but bob mccullough is. >> i think they are both a it problem. the district attorney did a poor job and that is clear from the record. i've been in a lot of cases. it was very problematic. i think he should be replaced. should step down. there needs to be a clean slate. 70% of people in ferguson are black. they have little power. 3 of the 53 police officers are black. and i think that we need to change ferguson to make it a

viable, resorting community, take some changes in the 21st century. we're not there yet but have to be committed to making that happen. >> speaking of protests, not just in ferguson but across the country, we have waves of national protest that show great deal of frustration and distrust towards law enforcement can that trust be repaired. >> the answer is it can be repaired. i'm glad eric holder is stepping up and i hope loretta lynch his replacement will step up and say the same thing. has to happen here at local police department. but won't happen until people expect the fact that people may be poor, black, under educated, they should not treat them differently. we have to make sure law

enforcement respects everybody and doesn't presume people are guilty because of their race, class, dress, and where they are. so that begin wz training to make sure things happen in a appropriate way. i'm going to join forces to make sure justice prevails in all of america, but broader than that, certainly in america and other cities around the country as well. >> as always thank you very much, very much much. >> my pleasure. >> coming up, snow, ice, and the busiest travel day of the year. we'll look at the storm causing holiday havoc for tens of millions of travellers just a head.

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>> as the executive director of the new york coalition against hunger told msnbc last year the two days with least hunger in america are thanksgiving and christmas but this thursday may by different because one year ago congress cut the food stamps program by about $5 billion. in march congress cut $8.6 billion additional programs. for 47 million who alie on food

stamps the results are tangible. 80% of soup pantries see more in their lines in wake of the cuts. the u.s. is one of countries getting worse. 24% of people having trouble putting food on the table. putting our country in line with countries like jordan and argentina. we spoke with the food of new york city. >> no one is going to a soup kitchen or food pantry with their children or wheelchair because they had nothing else to do with their time. they are there because they need it. this story is repeating all over the country. >> joining me now chief of external affairs officer for feeding america. mara, thank you for joining me.

>> thank you for having me. >> the statistics where we are compared to other countries is surprising and distressing what makes us an outliar. >> unfortunately since the recession we have seen steady high number of food insecurity in the united states, number of things driving it poverty, low assets, primarily, unemployment. there is a real mis-nomer about the unemployment issue, so many of the folks we feed are working, but more likely to be working part time rather than full time. so it is really effected people. >> the people who rely on it, when i visited some of the food pantries, these are professional people who have never had to rely on assistance from anyone

and there is a dignity question about saying, hey, i need help, and also the stigma of relying on charity, it is a hard thing to be hungry in america. >> one thing everyone in line has in common is nobody wants to be there. over half the families are working, at least one adult is working at least some part of the year. these are families making choices nobody in the united states should be forced to make. 70% are choosing between food and utilities followed by transportation and medical. it is a choice we shouldn't have to make. >> what do the food stamps cuts mean? >> they have an incredibly tangible impact to those individuals receiving benefits from the program. more than $36 per month on

average for a family of four went into the cut. if you think about living on a very fixed income and $36 per month less to buy food, you can start to see how many fewer grocery that's you and your family will have for the table in an average month. >> we went to eastern kentucky to one of the poorest counties in the country and spoke to a mother of four who is getting federal assistance, the money is like the amount of scraping you have to do to make that money last is profound. that said, it is all not bad news. i know you're here about a partnership. can you tell us about this. >> we're really excited to team up with keals, one of our first introduction into the industry. >> not a bad intro ducks.

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mavens. >> and pot barons premiers sunday at 10 p.m. on nbc. joining me now is trip kiever thanks for joining us. we saw two more states in d.c. legalize marijuana this month. how fast do you see this spreading across the u.s.? >> this business is growing, i've said it, at hyper speed. we're looking at hockey stick growth with legalization in oregon and alaska and decriminalization in washington, d.c. we are seeing incredible momentum in the united states. it's an exciting time to be in the marijuana industry. >> what will drive the expansion, changing attitudes among the public or state

revenue projections what do you think will drive expansion. >> i think all of the above. for the first time more than 50% of those in our country agree with adult-use marijuana coupled with tens of millions of sales tax revenue and we have over 12,000 jobs credited directly to the industry. these are all key performance inindicators providing for a positive experience within the states. i think the country will ultimately look at it at a federal in not too distant future. >> we are seeing a bob marley blend on the way. is this the future of marijuana, conglom rats coming in and taking over? are you worried about this? >> not at all. i was highly support of the move

with marley naturals which has almost $50 million behind it. that i think says volumes about where this industry is treading. you are seeing significant commercialization across the country. in colorado over 90% of the population are using recreational marijuana each month. it will pay massive benefits politically, legally and socially as we see an expansion in this effort. >> you know marijuana is going main stream and companies like yours are offering green friday bargains, explain what that is. >> that's right. it just recently popped up. retailers have black friday now cannabis has green friday. we have dixie one product that is a white chocolate square being released in honor of the holidays and as a whole sale

producer, the demand from retailers is beyond anything we could have imagined. as the industry continues to mature, we only have ten or eleven months under our belt, we will see more interesting things come out as the country opens its mind as to the use of adult use of marijuana in the country. >> some were surprised when pot sells dropped in colorado in september. is this the reason for green friday? >> i don't think so. you're seeing the evolution of a business. again the business only 11 months old so we're going through cycles. this plant is not digital, so it takes not only an art but a skill. the demand is certainly outweighing the supply so you are taking facilities that could previous produce 500 units a day to now 1,000 units an hour.

you will see sales increase dramatically going into 2015. >> i have so many more questions for you but we're out of time. thank you so much for joining us. >> thank you happy thanksgiving to everybody. >> the series will air sundays at 10:00 p.m. eastern beginning november 30th. that's all for now. "the ed show" is up next. . good evening americans and welcome to "the ed show" live from detroit lakes minnesota, let's get to work. ♪ ♪ >> he had grabbed my gun and he had charged me and he was going to kill me. >> protesters return to the streets of ferguson for a second

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