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floor later today to speak out about the issues raised by the shooting death of mike brown, by now former -- soon-to-be former police officer darren wilson. in washington, d.c., protesters blocked traffic. in ferguson right now, the 16-member commission set up to find solutions after the shooting is meeting today for the firlgs time since the grand jury decision. joining me now, nbc news correspondent, kristin welker. white house leaders are meeting with old and new. >> reporter: in addition to meeting with civil rights leaders, president obama is going to meet with his cabinet officials as well as law enforcement officials. the theme today, joy, is to try to bridge the gap to enhance understanding and cooperation between law enforcement officials and local communities. and the big headline here out of the white house today is that president obama is asking for a $263 million investment package,

$75 million of which would go toward body-worn cameras that law enforcement officials could wear. the president wants as many as 50,000 police officers to be able to use that equipment. the idea behind that is to not only enhance understanding and communication between communities and police departments, but also to allow for there to be a record when you do have incidents like the michael brown shooting. so there can be a record of what happened instead of a number of differing accounts. also a part of that aid package that i mentioned, joy, the goal is to expand training and also to expand resources to local police departments. now, you'll recall that back in august, president obama ordered a review of surplus military equipment to local police departments. that review found that it's not a matter of scaling back the equipment, but, rather, making sure the equipment is used properly and making sure that there are proper standards in place. joy, i'll read you a little part of that review. it says, quote, when police lack

adequate training, make poor operational choices or improperly use equipment, these programs can facilitate excessive use of force and service highly visible barriers between the communities and the police and the communities they serve. now, the third headline coming out of the white house today, joy, is that president obama is ordering a task force to review police departments across the country. that's going to be headed up by philadelphia police commissioner charles ramsey. president obama expecting that review to be completed within 90 days. we also expect to hear from the president once he finishes all of those meetings today. joy? >> kristin welker at the white house, thank you very much. now to the latest in ferguson. let's bring in christopher king, managing editor of "st. louis american." there have been a lot of protests, 108 days worth of protests in ferguson. obviously, the information coming out of the white house is brand new. protesters on the ground, have they been more specific in

things they to want do done both in ferguson and internationally? >> there was a meeting where some demands were discussed. i haven't decided what they decided to keep in, what they decided to keep out. there's also been many, many private meetings. also sorts of political pressure being applied at all points. a few things i know, the role of the special prosecutor in local police shootings. i think they say we need special prosecutors. of course, police reform. also in st. louis municipal court reform, which is responsible for a lot of the abuse of the poor we saw in the aftermath of this terrible shooting. >> one other question i have, locally there is a new commission that's been created. mayor announcing a civilian review board. >> that's the mayor of ferguson. very low confidence any of us place in the mayor of ferguson. i think he's part of history that would be moved aside and i wouldn't worry about what he says is going to happen. >> and last question, is there any reaction so far -- we obviously saw a protest spontaneous by members -- by the way, we're looking at some of

the protests of -- nationally there have been calls for people to walk out of school and work. that's what we were looking at there. any response to the st. louis rams members who protested at the game over the week snend. >> just the usual divisions. the people that support the protesters, the community of conscious as i call, it are excited, rushing taught buy the jerseys with those numbers on it. the reactionary, white majority, attacking them. the police agent is good for a hot quote, he attacked them. just the usual divisions just on a bigger screen with the rams involved. >> christopher king of "the st. louis american," thank you for being here. let's go to the supreme court now where justice ruth bader ginsburg is back at work following a heart stent procedure last week. the justices are hearing a major case involving social media, particularly sites like facebook. the issue is whether statements that could be considered threats are protected by the first amendment as free speech.

nbc's pete williams is outside the supreme court. what can you tell us about this case? >> this involves a man who started posting things on facebook after his wife let him and took the children. let me give an example of one of the internet postings he put up, in which he talks about ways he could kill her. he says he could stuff her body in a trunk. he says he could stab her, he could bury her. that's the kind of thing that the supreme court is dealing with. he was convicted. the judge said is whether the test is whether a reasonable person seeing those threats would have considered them threatening, would have put them in fear. but his lawyer told the supreme court today, no that's not the right test. the right test, should be whether he intended to cause fear or whether he knew that the messages he was senting out would cause fear. the justices were struggling with this. i don't think they seemed to like either extreme. they were looking for some way in the middle to preserve some speech on the internet without going too far while still giving the government the ability to prosecute when they can show that someone was really intending to cause fear.

>> pete, i mean, there's existing case law about things like making terrorist threats and threatening people. does the internet add a special element? there are songs that are extremely violent where people name specific names. what makes the internet different. >> reporter: yes, undoubtedly the internet is the main character, in spite of the individuals involved in this case. because on the one hand, the lawyer for mr. alona said, you've got teenagers who were arrested after they caesar castic things in game rooms how they would shoot up a school. there has to be a reasonable standard applied to which chief justice john roberts said the reasonable standard is a reasonable teenager? the other part of the problem is when you put something on facebook, you don't know who's going to read it. they may not know the context. they may not know you've just separated from your wife or you get along well with her. yes, the internet, social immediate, yeah that's the big issue here. >> pete williams at the supreme

court, thank you very much, sir. meanwhile, a disturbing story out of georgia where bond has now been denied for a couple charged with false imprisonment. the alleged victim, the man's 13-year-old son who was reported missing four years ago. nbc's kerry sanders has the latest from jonesboro, georgia. >> reporter: safely back in his mother's arms, investigators this morning are trying to piece together the story of what happened to this 13-year-old boy, who had been missing for four years. in court sunday the boy's father and stepmother samantha davis sat in shackles, charged with false imprisonment and child cruelty after police found the boy in their house n a hidden room, behind a fake wall, camouflaged with towels. according to authorities, the amazing rescue started when the boy somehow contacted his sister, using a cell phone. she relaid the message to their mother who tipped off

authorities where the boy was being held. but when police went to the house, their search came up empty. >> officers went, made contact with individuals in the home who deny having any knowledge of who the child was. >> reporter: it was only after a second call from the mother with more details, that police went back to the house and this time, they found him. neither the mother nor the boy spoke with reporters. they didn't need to. >> wow. nbc's kerry sanders, thank you. we are watching live pictures right now in new york city where protesters have walked out. there was a call from ferguson supporters to walk out of schools, out of workplaces today in solidarity with the ongoing protests over the killing of mike brown. and a grand jury's decision not to indict the officer who killed him, darren wilson. so, you're looking now at live pictures of new york city of people who apparently have participated in those protests. we've seen protests all weekend and oefrt last several weeks,

even the last several months of people in solidarity. coming up, nfl controversy on and off the field. members of the union representing st. louis police issue a scathing response to five rams players' hands up tribute to mike brown, calling for the players to be punished. we'll tell you the nfl's response. and just days after her husband is reinstated into the nfl, janay rice speaks out for the first time. find out what she told matt lauer about nfl commissioner roger goodell. >> when the commissioner of the nfl, roger goodell, says ray was ambiguous and the nfl says that it was a starkly different sequence of events, is the commissioner lying? >> i can't say he's telling the truth. you know, i -- i know for a fact that he told -- that ray told the honest truth.

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over the holiday weekend, the nfl became the flash point for two ongoing high profile stories. the ray rice controversy, which we'll discuss in a minute, and the ongoing events in ferguson, missouri, sparked by the police shooting death of michael brown. on sunday, five members of the st. louis rams entered their home field for the game against the oakland raiders with their hands raised. in the now famous hands up, don't shoot sign of protest. one player, wide receiver kenny britt, also posted this picture on his instagram account showing mike brown's name and my kids matter written on his wrist tape. in response to what britt has called a show of support for the ferguson community, spokesman for the st. louis police officers association issued a strongly worded statement condemning the action and demandsing that the players be disciplined. and for the nfl and team to apologize. joining me now is dave zire,

from sports nation. you were writing about this oeg over the weekend. this recalled for me at least the tom judge smith -- john carlos protest back in 1978, which was deeply unpopular with americans, got people angry but they did it and it was meant to sent a message. what did you think of this protest? >> well, i spoke to john carlos on the phone today. one of the things john impressed upon me, first and foremost, his utter solidarity with what the rams players did, but he took great issue with those who said, they should just shut up and play. in john carlos' words, they're asking these players to be like paint on the wall, just to be seen and not heard. but these are human beings. they have children. and if we're ever going to stand up to these atrocities, the time is now. the other thing john carlos said, and this certainly gave me a lot of hope, he said, i remember in 1968 telling the media, if you think i'm a bad

man, wait until that next generation. well, i've been waiting almost 50 years and i feel like that next generation's finally here. >> i should mention, there have been, as the reporter that was on earlier said, there have been some shows of support, too, for these players. i'll give their names. stedman bailey, tavon austin, kenny britt who seems to be the person who came up with this idea and also posted the instagram. i want to get your response to the response to this, dave, because jeff roorda, a former democratic politician, ran for state senate, lost to republican, he's called himself a friend of darren wilson in a previous media interview. this was the response to that protest, part of it, the st. louis police officers association. it is unthinkable, this statement said, that hometown athletes would so publicly perpetrate a narrative that has been disproven over and over again. as the players and their fans sit safely in their dome under the watchful protection of hundreds of slt lot. louis' fin

they take to the turf and call an exonerated police officer a murderer. the nfl declined to punish those players but what do you make of the statements? >> between roorda, jay nixon and mccullough, you've got to love those st. louis politicians. he said, how dare you call the name of my team racist. what roorda doesn't understand is what masses of people are finding offensive is the fact that michael brown is dead and another unarmed black male teenager has an interaction with a police officer which ends with one of them dead and a lot of unanswered questions. that's the thing people find so offensive about this moment. they find mccullough's actions as a prosecutor offensive. if roorda doesn't realize that, if the police don't realize that, we may have more healing to do than the most pessimistic among us believe. >> one more piece from that

statement because one thing that came up in my social media feeds, was the question of whether or not these players, as employees of the national football league, have first amendment rights, which of course as americans they do. this is part of the statement roorda went on to say, i know there are those who will say they're simply exercising their first amendment rights. cops have first amendment rights, too, and we plan to exercise ours. i demand the nfl and players it's not the vie lebt thugs burning down their buildings that buy their products. is that a boycott? >> whenever you talk about first amendment rights and protests of police officers, what they leave out is police officers also have constant and ever-present second amendment rights, meaning they are the armed part of the united states. and so this idea -- any time you have anything that even sounds like a threat, that comes from the corners of the police force where people from the police

department, they surely know that that has an extra lacquer of intimidation and should be stood up to. real quick, joy, the social media feed about this protest that i kept getting was also, they're spreading a false narrative about the case by putting their hands up. that's a big theme going out right now. and i was looking at the testimony, other people, the whole grand jury, 16 of the 18 witnesses said michael brown had his hands up. to me, it's all together appropriate they did just that. >> it's also become a bigger -- sort of a protest about larger issues of policing. i want to read the nfl statement and ask you about roger goodell's role in this. we respect and understand the concern of all individuals who have expressed views on this tragic situation, brian mccarthy, vp of communications. what kind of position is the league in at this point? there are so many metastasizing things going on. how would it have looked for the league to turn around and discipline these players? >> the legal right now has three long sticks spinning plates on them and only two arms.

they are losing it. right now roger goodell is in no position to make any sort of controversial statement about anything. i mean, he's basic kaelically -- he's living in dick cheney's bunker right now. no one has heard from this guy except friday where a federal judge effectively said he wasn't a believable witness in his own case. so, they are not in a place -- i knew they wouldn't punish the players because the nfl right now, they really are like the groundhog that doesn't want to stick its head above ground. >> speaking of roger goodell, there's been a lot have criticism over the handling -- i want to switch to the ray rice case. what sticks the most, at least for women s the idea janay rice was put in a position to have to defend her husband's behavior with him sitting there twice. in an interview with roger goodle and then in a press conference, now notorious. i want to play you a little bit of matt lauer on the "today" show interviewing janay interview and the infamous janay

rice apology. >> did anyone at the ravens say, janay, it would be really good if you issue some kind of an apology. >> they suggested it, yes. >> did they come up with the wording? >> no, not specifically. they basically gave us a general script. >> had it not been for the ravens, urging you or suggesting you -- >> we would have -- >> -- you apologize, you never would have been at that press conference and you never would have apologized? >> no. >> do you feel it's less or more helpful to the league? the more i hear, the more uncomfortable. your thoughts. >> the more i wonder when an ambitious attorney will build a case against roger goodell for perjury. what sounds like happened in this arbitration case that he swore under oath under penalties of personal what took place with janay and ray rice and he's telling an entirely different story from what we're hearing from other witness who is were there. also that tells me is either roger goodell lives in his own

world, which is certainly popular. that's what happens when you make $40 million a year by running a nonprofit. but what's happening instead is that you have a roger goodell, i think, who is becoming more and more cornered and more and more isolated because fewer and fewer people trust him right now. i mean, the nfl even sent letters to all the teams assuring them that roger goodell did not perjure himself. the idea they even had to do that -- i think that was this morning where they sent that letter out -- just says a lot about the precarious position roger goodell now finds himself in. >> quick exit question. will ray rice find a team? >> yes, he will find a team. it will be quite the drama when it does. and it will be very interesting to see what some of the reactions is. >> yeah. we'll be watching. i'm sure we'll invite you back on to discuss it. dave zirin, thank you very much. >> watch the colts. >> okay. now you've given us a tip. appreciate it. three things to know on this monday. watch what you say online. that is the new warning being issued to people with military

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the president of university of national canceled the -- theresa sullivan's change of venue comes in the wake of a "rolling stone" report on a 2012 gang rape they say was mishandled by the administration. since the scandal, condemnation of the school's administrators and fraternity at the centers of the allegations has led many of americans most esteemed schools to reassess not just the topic of sexual assault but how administrations treat survivors. joining me on the phone is

katherine valentine and with me is erin carmone. you did a story before even the "rolling stone" piece came out in which he interviewed the dean, whose name is dean aramo, and let me play a little piece of that interview. >> you said that he actually admitted guilt to you? >> yes. >> why were the students not expelled? >> i feel like in the context of an informal resolution meeting, there's no advantage to admitting guilt. there's no need to admit guilt. they're not actually in a hearing proceeding. i feel like if a person is willing to come forward in that setting and admit that they violated the policy when there's absolutely no advantage to do so, that that does deserve some consideration. that they're willing to say that, i've done something wrong and i recognize that, and i'm willing to take my licks and deal with it. that's very important to me. i think that shows a level of

understanding of what they did, that i don't see in a hearing necessarily. >> i'm sorry, i called you christine earlier. what was your response? what did you think when you heard that response to a question of why students who admitted guilt in sexual assaults haven't been, at minimum, expelled? >> frankly, i was confused. and i think if you keep watching the interview, i really pressed her on that because i'm confused about the policy. i've had two months -- that interview was conducted in late september. and i've had two months to really digest the statement and really kind of sift through them. i think her comments just shows that there's bad policy. and i think that the university -- the university decided to adopt a zero tolerance policy in response to the "rolling stone" article and the video. i think that was definitely the right call. >> i want to note that since 1998, 183 people have been

expelled for honor code violations. things like cheating on exams, but not a single student at uva has ever been expelled to sexual assault. crime of sexual assault rather than police being called in but it seems like expulsion is not even being called in. >> people wonder why universities are involved in this process. none of the systems we have in place, most survivors come away feeling like they -- that justice was served. i think we have already a problem where university administrators don't understand criminal procedure, who have a lot of discretion like in the interview, where they say, he admitted to, it seems like a nice guy, maybe we'll let him off the hook. in a court of law, that's a confession as long as it follows the rules of evidence. so, i think any time you have a system that leaves -- it leaves up to so much discretion, the university's incentive is to cover it up, to say, well, maybe

you don't want a report, which is certainly a pattern that was mentioned here. and their incentive is to make the university look good, to be friends with the donors, to bring in money. they have the opposite incentive of becoming the, quote/unquote, rape school as the "rolling stone" article put it. >> i can imagine parents having daughters apply to a school where they had people admitting to sexual assault still on campus. >> catherine, in your reporting did you find the university was not only expelling to people who admitted to assault, but people who admitted to multiple cases of assault? >> when i asked -- i actually asked the dean that question specifically. she said, if we had had statistics -- or if we had reports of repeat offenders those students would have absolutely been expelled. my confusion is there were 38 reports made to the dean last year and only four went to

formal hearings. to my question that i would like to ask the dean now is what happened to those 34 names that did not go to hearings? you know, did those -- are gated and repeat offenders stay at the university? we don't know that. i'm not sure if the statistics on repeat offenders are even available. >> wow. irin, right now the university of virginia is one of 86 schools, according to the "rolling stone" article that is horrific to read, which is under federal investigation. but it's being scrutinized carefully. is there anything done on the federal level being done to look at uva and these particular schools? >> the obama administration has taken an aggressive approach to title 9, if you receive federal funding you have to make sure there's no sexual assault on your campus. they've used the preponderance of evidence standard which makes

it possible for more disciplinary actions to take place and they've investigated, including uva, a series of institutions which are failing young women. >> chilling stories. msnbc reporter irin, thank you. catherine valentine, a future ace reporter, you've done a great job. i shouldn't say future. a current ace reporter. you beat "rolling stone" to the story. please come back. >> thank you so much. coming up, as president obama meets with ferguson community leaders, protesters take their message to the nation's capital, stopping traffic along the way. health can change in a minute. so cvs health is changing healthcare. making it more accessible and affordable, with over 900 locations for walk-in medical care. and more on the way. minuteclinic. another innovation from cvs health.

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i want to get your reaction to -- you and i have had offline conversations about the president's reaction initially to what happened in ferguson and sort of the quick pivot to things like my brother's keeper, which i would not feel uncomfortable as saying struck both of us as discordant. >> yes. >> the new initiative, $75 million of which would be for body cameras, 50,000 police outfitted with body cameras. they want new statistics on police shooting, increased training, et cetera. what do you make of that in your initial view of it? >> 50,000 body cameras for over 700,000 police officers across the country, i mean, it's a start. i mean, at the very least we can say president obama is taking action on this. is it adequate? no. far from it. particularly because i just don't buy into body cameras as a solve. i think it's important in this moment, it's something that can get us to a bigger and better

reforms by putting body cameras on and collecting data. i don't -- don't tell me body cameras are going to prevent this from happening. it's a way of collecting date aon this happening, particularly if the police departments themselves are not responsible for collecting that data. it's an outside firm or something that's collecting the video because we can't -- we can't trust the police officers to be responsible with that video, i don't think. but it's something. that's about the best. >> it's a discourse. it's about police behavior. what struck me is the whole communication from the white house was more about police conduct than it was about civilian conduct. >> thankfully, because that's went the messaging from obama almost from the time ooet he's been running for presidency is the behavior of those who are on the other side of this. and what they can do to correct this behavior. so, talking about mistrust of police. i would like to know which civil rights leader he's talking to. is he talking to the people i know in ferguson organizing from

hands up united, millinennial activists united, and the ferguson newsletter, this is the movement. i would like him to sit down with those folks who have been doing this work -- or organization for black struggles, a st. louis-based organization doing this type of work. i hope those are the people that get their voices heard in this conversation. as opposed the old guard civil rights organization. >> that's a good point. we will try to get for the viewers as well, a list as soon as they send out a list of those at the meeting. i want to get, to as you said, the actual ferguson protesters, the people who have been leading this movement that's now over 108 days old. they actually over the weekend held a meeting, one group of them, ferguson action, and put up a list of demands. i want to read you four of them and get your reaction. one, they want special prosecutors for all deadly force shooting cases, police held accountable for the use of deadly force, they want a passing of national and racial

profiling legislation, something that's been talked about since the '90s. comprehensive review of systematic abuses by local police departments. a lot focusing on trying to have the national, federal government coming in and taking it out of the hands of local prosecutors. what do you think about that? >> yeah, absolutely. again, these are starts. because what i want is less interaction with the police. i think that there's a lot of conversation around how to build better relationships between police and communities and how police will understand communities. just less interaction. i think that's the bigger problem, is our idea of what constitutes policing and what the police role should be in communities. it's about prevention of crime. and there's simply not equipped to do that. also, we know the things that work best. it's investment in education and, you know, jobs and economic security and health care. those are the things that prevent people from doing the things that would lead them to interact with the police and,

you know, just -- or, you know, the justified means, but also the fact that police nen, because they are charged with preventing crime, go out and seek people to harass and -- >> funny you should mention that. we don't have time but i want to play you a piece of a detroit guy who was stopped, interaction with the police, even the police officer in the unfounded search. take a listen. >> you're making people nervous. >> by walking by? >> yeah. they said you had your hands in your pockets. >> wow. walking by, having your hands in your pocket makes people nervous when it's snowing outside? >> it is. >> so, are you okay? >> i'm fine. how about you? >> i'm good. >> now, of course, that's just a snippet of the video. we don't have the before or after. but your thoughts? >> black man's not allowed to get warm? this is where we are in this country. black man's not allowed to get warm without -- in detroit, without making people nervous. like, what? what? >> it's cold outside. keep your hands out of your

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people around the world are taking time out today to mark the 25th -- 26th annual world aids day. an estimated 34 million people worldwide are living with hiv and more than 35 million more have died from complications related to aids. my next guest has taken his story of living with hiv to the big screen. 25 to life in theaters for a special one night engagement tonight chronicles the story of

william brauner who kept his hiv positive status a secret for over 25 years. in the fallout of reactions from his friends and the community around him. >> every milestone has been clouded with he's great, if only he didn't have aids. i remember getting his eighth grade graduation suit and saying, please, god, don't let this be the suit i bury him in. >> my mom didn't think i would be 10, 11. then it was 16. then it was 18. then it was 21. >> william brauner joins me now. william, thank you for being here. >> thanks for having me. >> so, you in your case, it's a little different. you became hiv positive as a child, as an 18-month-old. did your mom explain why you decided you shouldn't tell and why after you were an adult did you still decide not to tell people?

>> one of the main reasons we decided not to tell was the stigma surrounding hiv/aids. the only thing i can compare it to was the ebola scare. when hiv and aids first hit the air waves, it was pretty many considered like ebola, so people's house were being burned down, people were losing their jobs. people were very uneducated about how to contract hiv and aids and what that actually meant. as a result, our family decided to keep it a secret. >> even in your dating life -- i want to play one more clip. you own up to the fact you dated women, you had relationships with women, including your then-wife, without telling people. let me play one more clip. >> i'm normally a day short, i felt horrible and i apologized. >> that's a hard question whether he should have told his partners or not. >> he's an attempted murderer. >> i have been avoiding this very situation for my entire

life. >> william, obviously we have so many people in this country who are unaware, 1.5 million people live with hiv, 16% are unaware they're effected. african-american are in particular risk because of people who don't know about their status. you put other people's lives at risk, what do you say to that? >> i would totally understand that. as we made the movie, i talked to my producers and my director and i said, we have to tell the whole story. this story wouldn't be as impactful for anyone if i hid the wrong things i did. i had a transition in life. as a young person, this was something difficult to deal with. i didn't always make the right decisions so i wanted to tell the whole entire story. america has an issue with me and i completely understand it. they can't decide if i'm the villain or the victor but this is the complete story and i have to do everything in my power for the stigma concerning hiv and aids and why people don't want

to come forward with their status. >> the case of the african-american community, accounting for 46% new cases, and also men who have sex with men, which which is the official classification because people aren't even honest about their sexual orientation all the time. what do you say to people when you say, i can't tell because i'm afraid i'll lose the people around me? >> i would say i completely understand. i kept this secret for 25 years for that very reason. but it's not until we can embrace or hiv status, it's not until we are comfortable enough with one another to say, listen, i'm hiv positive. i'm no different from anyone else. and this is just my cross to bear. but at the same time, we have to have enough education throughout the world where people understand how hiv and contracted and not contracted. >> how is your health, william? >> i feel great. >> well, that is a testament to the far ways we've come in terms of the medical science.

the movie is "25 to life." thank you for making the film, and for speaking out. we really appreciate it. even though belated, it is helping people. >> thanks. >> that wraps things up for "the reid report." i'll see you tomorrow at 2 p.m. eastern. shift us online at thereidreport.msnbc.com. "the cycle" is up next.

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cycle from the whouts to city halls across the country, community leaders are focusing on the civil rights issues highlighted by months of unrest in ferguson. i'm toure. as we come on the air today, the president, civil rights leaders, ferguson residents and police are working toward the same goal. how can we as a nation build trust between communities of color and law enforcement in ferguson and nationwide? president obama is now behind closed doors with local elected officials and faith leaders. his third meeting on this today. earlier, he called his cabinet together to discuss what they can do on the federal level. obama and vice president biden

also met with young civil rights leaders to get their take. also cycling right now in missouri, the ferguson commission hand-picked by the governor is in the middle of its first meeting. the public gets to weigh in next hour. it's a three-part goal. first to dig into the underlying social and economic causes behind the anger we've seen. second, to talk with experts and, third, to make specific recommendations for governor nixon to implement. the purpose of both the d.c. and ferguson meetings are not to re-examine how michael brown was killed but, rather, to use the situation as a starting point for potential change. demonstrators -- demonstrations continue nationwide, d.c., seattle, new york city and beyond. on the football field, five players of the st. louis rams came out with hands up, an apparent show of solidarity. police commissioner of