also met with young civil rights leaders to get their take. also cycling right now in missouri, the ferguson commission hand-picked by the governor is in the middle of its first meeting. the public gets to weigh in next hour. it's a three-part goal. first to dig into the underlying social and economic causes behind the anger we've seen. second, to talk with experts and, third, to make specific recommendations for governor nixon to implement. the purpose of both the d.c. and ferguson meetings are not to re-examine how michael brown was killed but, rather, to use the situation as a starting point for potential change. demonstrators -- demonstrations continue nationwide, d.c., seattle, new york city and beyond. on the football field, five players of the st. louis rams came out with hands up, an apparent show of solidarity. police commissioner of st. louis

called it tasteless, offensive and inflammatory. we start with chris jansing. the president is calling for new task force and federal funds for community policing. what details to you have? >> reporter: big focus on ferguson. let's start with what happened in ferguson. a lot of people who at the time said, part of it is the militarization of local law enforcement that they get some of this surplus equipment, tanks, high-powered ammunition and guns, and programs through homeland security that give them funding and that it was too much. it added to the tension there and increased the level of violence. well, we just got the results of a review of that. and the decision that is suggested is no change in the program. that the real problem is the way et cetera it's carried out. take a listen to josh earnest a short time ago. >> what is needed, however s much greater consistency in oversight of these programs. primarily in how these programs are structured, how they're implemented and how the programs

themselves are audited. a lot of focus you'll see in this report is on training that's offered to law enforcement agencies and on transparency. the way in which these acquisitions are communicated to the public, at least made clear to the public. >> reporter: and the follow-up, for example, when they check on this equipment, all they look is to see what do they still have? not, is being used properly and how is it being used. a bunch of ornishtives announced today. the president is asking for more than 250 million for new programs. a big chunk of, that $75 million would help local governments buy these body cameras. that's not a panacea but a lot of people look at that as another piece of crucial evidence when you have these situations that escalated into violence. there's going to be another component of that, that also will expand training. for example, something as simple as, when you get into that situation, do you turn the camera on? and then he also has appointed a task force that will look for

ways for police to look at local communities. charles ramsey, philadelphia police commissioner s one of the people who will be heading it, along with lori robertson. so the meetings right now inside the white house are ongoing with a big focus on how do we make sure that we minimize these kinds of incidents? is it possible to keep ferguson from happening again, toure. >> body cameras could make a dig difference. chris jansing at the white house, thank you. let's bring in law professor, f. michael higenbothen and clay rogers author of "the bill of the century." we have a nation where blacks and whites seem to see things entirely different. how do we move forward in a world where some believe racism is the core problem and some believe racism no longer exists? >> i think we move forward by making sure that ferguson is not

just about the absence of violence, but it's about the presence of justice. there are a number of things we can do to increase racial justice in this country. as you mentioned, there's already meetings going on about putting body cameras on all police officers. i think that would be an excellent idea because it would help to increase the accuracy of what we know about incidence of use of force that occur. question also have a national data collection. and i think third, most significantly, we can increase the racial diversity on the part of these law enforcement agencies so that we're valuing black and hispanic life just as much as we value white life. >> absolutely. clay, over at the new yorker today they're writing about the long history of commissions to address racial tensions. of course, most famously after the 1967 riots, lbj had the

kerner commission. es anything ever come out of these commissions other than making politicians feel and appear like they're doing something? >> not -- not really. the current commission contributed mostly to the backlash against what people perceived as, you know, too far a push by the civil rights movement. there was a feeling among a lot of white voters who are turning toward the republican party and toward people like wallace and nixon. you know, essentially the radical civil rights movement that captured the government. that's what produced the kerner commission report. even though the report itself has some gracing truths in it. >> if you read it, it could be about ferguson in a lot of respects. >> absolutely. and, i think people are very well advised to go back and read the kerper commission report because even though some of the details are different, they're responding to the riots in newark versus demonstrations in ne ferguson, still, you're talking about the same police brutality and community relations, disparity that you have today. >> yeah.

and the question about whether the commission is appropriate response depends on what kind of problem you're trying to solve. if you think have you an unjustified shooting or you think you have manslaughter, no one in any community, anywhere in america, regardless of race, would look at manslaughter or murder and say, i want a commission. they want justice. they want action. professor, i want to bring you in on the discussion of race relations which is important but seems to me to be secondary to the first question we want to answer as a nation here. which is, whether our actual government and police relations here are working or not. that goes back to the -- what is obviously for many still a factual open inquiry because we haven't had a full trial or all these answered questions, is are the police getting it right? did they get it right in this incident? are they getting it right in other incidents? it seems to me that question has to come first before we get into a polarized racial reaction to it. and i wonder, given your expertise on this, wry yhy you k

it is we lapse into the language of race relationses, or to the point krystal raised, the commissions, when the first subtantive question here is, are the police getting it right? >> i think that's the problem. in too many instances, the police are not getting it right. at least in terms of how many americans view this. and so there's not only a problem with the appearance of an incorrect approach, but the reality of an incorrect approach. i think that's the real problem. that's what we need to address in terms of increasing the presence of justice. we need -- we need to make sure that these commissions f that's what we create, we actually implement the recommendations in the commissions. if you look at the kerner commission, many of these other commissions, we didn't implement the recommendations that they made. so, i think if we do have a commission with respect to ferguson, we need to be serious

about implementation of their suggestions. >> clay, what this has done has brought to the surface the deep divide that exists in many places around the country. the question is, how many of us in this nation move on and how do the people directly involved move on with their lives? darren wilson sat down with george stephanopoulos last week and george asked him moving forward, what do you fear most? here's what he said. >> are you still scared? >> of course. what's your biggest worry? >> someone hurting my family or another officer getting hurt. >> he's not going behind bars. how does he move forward? ask he move forward? can you live a normal life? >> i think that's up to him and how he decides to move forward with his life. there's a broader question, is this something the nation does together or thousands of different local racial issues. i think when you look at what's happening in ferguson, you look

at, say, the bronx or different parts of new york, there are specific issues and confess. that's the diltd of having a national conversation. in some ways have you to have a lot of people talking about it at same sometime, and that's the difficulty. the people in ferguson will continue to talk, but will the rest of the country listen? i think that's the issue. >> it seems frustrating every time we have one of these moments, we have a national conversation and nothing actually happens. we don't actually go anywhere. professor, clay, thank you very much for your time. up next, ray rice back to the field? the nbc news exclusive interview with janay rice that has a lot of folks talking today. plus, congress is back on the job. but for some folks, on the job in congress means not being on the job and shutting the government down. and when is an online threat not actually a threat? the supreme court is on the case. it's cyber monday in america. do you feel digitized? (vo) nourished.

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sitting today with the "today" sh show's matt lauer. ray joins the conversation tomorrow. he's been allowed to join a team. it remains to be seen whether any team is willing to sign him. here is matt and janay rice on what the past six months have been like.

>> hectic, to say the least. shocking. >> do you have remained silent. has it been hard to not speak out about this? >> yes. that's been the hardest part. is having so much of your life made public and have it all be negative. that's the hardest part. not having control over anything that has to do with you. it's a national thing for a human to want to come out and say, no, no, that's not me. no, that's not true. it's like a battle we just can't win. >> it's been the hardest thing ever that i've ever had to gone through in my life, to watch my daughter being trashed and to see what has happened to her on -- all over, national television, everyone talking about her, everyone making statements about her. they know nothing about her. what were we going to do? you can't fight everyone. >> it all started on the night of valentine's day after what

janay admits was a night of heavy drinking, the couple started to argue. and then they stepped into that elevator. i guess it was about four days or so after the incident at the casino the first tape came out. the one that was taken outside the elevator. had you seen the tape? >> i saw the first one. >> did you see it before it was released to the public? >> no. we just knew about it. >> you knew about it. >> yes. >> were you dreading the moment that tape came out? >> yes, yes. we knew that it was going to happen. we didn't know exactly when it was going to happen but there was no preparing us for that at all. when i saw that, it was horrible. you can't make excuses for anything. we were highly intoxicated. in the moment you're not thinking, i'm on camera, inside an elevator. so, of course, people are going to read at everything and pick at everything about the

situation. we understand that. >> have you seen the second tape? >> no. i refuse. i refuse. i'm not going to let the public bring me back there, huh-uh. >> mom, you've seen it? >> of course. i didn't want to see it at first. it took me a while, but i did, because i had to. that's my child. if something happened to her, i don't care what it is, i want to see it. >> can you tell me the reactions of what you had when you saw it the first time? >> i was kind of sick. uh-huh. i was. >> how can you not be? >> i was sick to watch it. >> did it change your view of what happened in any way, or was it what you expected? >> kind of what i thought, uh-huh. kind of what i thought. >> when that second tape came out, your daughter became the face of domestic violence in this country instantly. i know you don't think that's fair. >> no. >> no. not at all. >> i appreciate that.

i know -- i understand, i totally understand how people look at that and think that that's who she is. but i know her, we know and she's not. >> let me ask you directly and bluntly. prior to what we have now seen in that elevator, was there ever any incident of violence in your relationship with ray, or has there been any incident of violence since that elevator incident? >> no. >> no. >> no, there's no way. he knows what he would have to deal with. you know, if this was something -- i'm not going to sit there in silence and let something happen to me and, you know, god forbid in front of my child. and just like, let it happen? there's no way. >> joining us now are espn sports business analyst andrew brandt and sports columnist for bloomberg view. her latest column points the finger at ray rice and for the nfl for what went down.

we'll get to your column in a moment but as a woman who lives and breathes sports, what is your reaction to that interview, to janay? did she appear stronger than you expected or did she appear a victim of domestic violence who's living in denial, trying to justify her life at this point? >> i don't know if those two things are mutually exclusively, frankly. janay said we revictimized her by making her relive what happened that night by scrutinizing her husband. while it's our job, i think it's absolutely true that it's very difficult to be a victim in these circumstances, whether or not she considers herself a victim in the same terms we do. i guess that's really up to her. she obviously seemed as strong as one could expect in that interview. and i think the way that she has kind of parsed the blame to go around from the nfl to the ravens, has been very interesting to see. kind of cemented our suspicions of what actually happened.

that said, she said you don't see a video like that and don't expect -- to have that happen and think about the video that's happening. but, you know, everyone else around her from the moment that happened was thinking about that video more than they were thinking about her. >> she didn't even look at the second video. >> watching that interview, you just feel the sadness and there's layers to that. andrew i wanted to ask you about the arbitration decision here. no one comes out looking that good in this whole thing. but you read this decision and you see goodell going downhill more at this juncture than others according to the arbitrator saying basically, you had the info all along. you had the internal notes up. knew what you knew. rice didn't actually mislead you and you made what lawyers call an arbitrary decision, which is why it was turned over here. what do you make of all of this on that piece, that you actually have something that would have surprised people, i think, when we were covering this a few weeks ago, which is a criticism of goodell coming down hard on

rice because of the way he did it and that he knew earlier when he failed to act? >> yeah, i think it's even greater than a criticism. it's a rebuke. it's a repudiation. roger goodell has obviously made conduct his priority but she's -- reading the case, it almost -- the decision by judge jones, it almost is asking, why didn't you guys take this very seriously in that video came out? what were you doing? you had this hearing and, unfortunately, spent a lot of the appeal figuring out what happened in that hearing because there was no transcript, there were no notes, there was no audio recording of it. so, they had to piece it together and ray rice's teams notes were much more detailed. it had he hit her into the notes. league notes talked about bottle service, very vague, almost as if they were condescending towards the whole thing. it just seemed to me it was a rebuke of roger goodell. the question then becomes, where do we go from here? he obviously was scolded by an

independent arbitrator. the only reason there was one because he abdicated that specific power for this hearing because he was a witness. i'm not sure that's the case going forward. >> i want to get your thoughts on a similar thing. i mean, the way i look at this is that this is the wrong result in that ray rice should not be allowed to return, but it's the right decision. roger goodell screwed this up from the beginning. you don't get a do-over because the public is outraged. he should have handled this differently from the very beginning and because of the collective bargaining agreement. you can't go back and have a second bite at the apple here. >> right, absolutely. i think no matter what had-h happened, this would have been very unsatisfying for us. this isn't an easy case to have a black and white opinion on. the judge basically inside her ruling, an arbitrator would be hard pressed to find an indefinite suspension the first time, would have been outside goodell's powers as stated in the cba. the question becomes, why didn't he do that? as we notice with all the vagueness and lack of details that actually happened in that

initial meeting in june, it seemed you could either say there was a willful ignorance towards wanting to know what actually happened or just complete incompetence in the investigation. you know, the old excuse that goodell had been giving why he couldn't issue more than a two-game suspension have been legally rebuked in this decision. >> andrew, ray rice is, of course, eligible to be signed by any nfl team right now at this second. you've been a vice president with the green bay packers. take us inside the calculus that most of the teams might employ to try to figure out whether or not they're going to take him. how much is it about football and a given team's needs at running back and their position on how good he can be at this age, and how much of it is about -- how the community will respond and what the extra media attention will be? >> yeah, you pointed that out. this is not your ordinary signing, obviously. this is one that's going to be difficult. especially now. we're a month away from the end of the season.

a bad team's not going to mess with it. a good team has to deal with the extra attention as it prepares for the playoffs. that's tough. when i left the packers, i did some consulting for the philadelphia eagles when we brought in michael vick. there he was coming out of prison. you had a sea level decision. had to be from the top down. you had to take into account corporate sponsorships and public relations and community relations and know that video were going to be played. know you were going to have protesters and picketers. that will happen in this situation. that's why i don't think it's a remote possibility even he will sign in the next four weeks. however, in 2015, i think, he will sign somewhere. and the outrage and the videos and everything that comes along with it, whether he signs in april, may, june, july, will eventually dissipate as we get to the season. >> you got any guess on who might take him? >> i think what we're looking at now is teams that are mentioned such as indianapolis and new orleans that have situations at running back, but they're not

going to add him now. we have to see what flushes out with these teams at running back over the next few months. i'll have a better opinion in march. >> absolutely. tomorrow we hear from ray rice. that will be very interesting as well. andrew brandt, kavitha davidson, thank you for being with us. up next, all things cyber on this cyber monday, including a supreme court case that could impact what you post on facebook. but next, it's the holidays, which means some lawmakers are threatening to shut down the government. oh, boy. congress is back on the hill and congressman peter welch is joining us live. shopping online is as easy as it gets. wouldn't it be great if hiring plumbers, carpenters and even piano tuners were just as simple? thanks to angie's list, now it is. start shopping online from a list of top-rated providers. visit angieslist.com today. emma, it's simple, when you are in a place like this, the best way to capture the moment is to feel it, even if you can't see it.

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congress is back in inaction. see what i did there, abby? >> i like that. >> can you believe we're doing this again? ten day as way from another potential government shutdown. never thought i'd say that word again on this show. the threat heightened by president obama's executive action on immigration. this afternoon's senate majority

leader for now, harry reid, threatened a christmas session if congress doesn't do its job. congressman peter welch is a democrat who sits on the house oversight committee. congressman, would you like to see the government actually shut down so that the republicans could show americans they aren't actually ready to govern? >> you know, that's crazy. >> thank you. good answer. >> but, you know, i think clearly the republican leadership wants to avoid a shutdown. the question is whether they can. there's a lot of rumbling in the republican house about what the president did on immigration and there's a real desire among many to have payback and payback would be shutting government down. speaker boehner knows that's bad politics and i think the speaker knows going into next year, what's good politics for the republicans, interestingly enough, is getting points on the board. getting things done. that means they have to do real

legislation as poe opposed to t party ideological legislation. and the question is, not whether that's what speaker boehner wants to do, i think it is, it's whether he'll be able to execute given the new crowd that's coming in. >> you mentioned the new crowd and the largest majority since the 1920s. mathematically the republicans are likely to hold this majority for a while, even if they do lose some more seats. do you think there's any glimmer of hope here that given that kind of null republican mussel and the executive order, speaker boehner isn't going down the road they use to do, the shutdown? "the times" reporting today and others saying, he's trying to calm these incoming members and focus him on, as you mentioned, points on the board. >> no, there is some hope. we've both -- both sides have to be realistic. if he puts up reasonable legislation, then the democrats have to be willing to take what we can get if it includes things like, say, energy conservation. but on the other hand, if what he wants to do is shut down

government or repeal the health care bill another 55 times, the democrats are going to be supporting -- sustaining vetoes to the president. by the way, the democrats have been very pleased at how the president has asserted himself on the climate, on immigration and now on this tax deal -- >> making moves. >> -- which looks like it would have been a bad deal for the middle class. we get a chance, the senate and house democrats, to sustain a presidential veto, we're going to do it. that means that if all speaker boehner and mm itch mcconnell t want do is keep us on stall, they have to bear the burden of failure. and this election, they won, it but it wasn't a validation of their proposals. really it was a rejection of some of the things that haven't been happening in washington with the democrats and the president taking the greater brunt of the blame. but we have to start getting things done here, both sides.

>> congressman peter welch, always love having you on, especially when you call toure crazy. welcome back to the show. >> did you get that? >> let's turn now to francis wilkinson, member of bloomberg view's editorial board. you were listening to that conversation. let's talk more about this government shutdown because that seems to be coming back into the narrative again, yet this time it feels a little bit different. i mean, you've got republicans in the house that no matter what are going to try to shut it down, if it's not immigration, it will be obamacare or the color of obama's tie, if that's what it means. i do think there are enough republican on the hill that recognize a government shutdown would be a disaster for the party, and majority of the blame, like last year, would be put on them. enough so that we're not going down it this road again. >> based on experience, i think there are more republicans who don't to want go down that road. and i think we know pretty clearly from speaker boehner that he does not want to go down that road. >> the ted cruzes of the world

are arguing, we did it, it worked out for us. but i agree with you, i think the leadership has a stronger hand this time. i want to talk about a piece you wrote "the case for many grag " immigration." have the have to ignore this basic fact there are an estimated 11 million undocumented immigrants here. they're here. have you to do something with them. you're either going to send them all back, which no one in mainstream is going to say or do, or you have to have some form of amnesty. >> well, the way republicans have gotten around that is not to talk about it, for the most part. there is a very significant part of the republican base that wants to deport these people. that is not something that you hear even in the most anti-immigrant members of congress talking about. they do not come out and say, well, we really need to start rounding these people up and deport them. if you take that off the table,

what you're left with is some sort of amnesty, some sort of path to citizenship or legalization or the status quo. the de facto and default position of the party is the status quo. if you're not deporting them and not providing a pathway to legalization, you have the status quo. >> thank you very much for being here. still ahead, where to shop and feel good on this cyber monday. krystal ball's got the list of who's naughty and who's nice. i think santa's list is far too high for any human being to live up to. next, a lot of other cyber headlines making headlines, seth rogen and kim jong un? >> yes. so,as my personal financial psychic,

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what do we have here, corporate privacy standards, international hacking, all these dilemmas are on the table for hacktavist. welcome to you. let me pick up on this uber storing getting a lot of attention here. not specifically whether people care about uber the company, but talk about this as an example of how a single corporation, in this case a fairly new one, has all kinds of personal data about people. and you don't need to be paranoid. here is a story about them allegedly, blatantly, misusing it. >> no, indeed. there's so much of it, it's hard to sort it out. but surely the issue is that a vast amount of public material can be held by private corporations and used in any way they really wish to use it.

without much control by the public. i mean, privacy is a very quickly diminishing object of life. and i think the corporations and even the government have made it even more difficult. >> gavin, i wanted to get your thoughts on the supreme court case that ari was just mentioning, a man who posted threats against his wife on facebook, also threats against an fbi agent and a kindergarten class. essentially the question here is what constitutes a true threat when it happens online. it-s it the intent of the person who posted it or the feeling and sense this was a credible threat by the person who was the subject of that attack. and i wanted to get your thoughts. we have seen a lot of journalists, anita, one example, facing these online threats and harassment. on the other hand, there's a free speech concern here about what you can and can't post. so, i wanted to see what you thought the appropriate balance here was. >> well, it's difficult for me

as a journalist, i'm particularly concerned about encroaching threats on our ability to say certain things that the government might find offensive or corporations might find offensive. so, we have to be very careful about what we empower because if we diminish further our ability to say honest things about what we're concerned about, society as a whole will be deeply compromised by it. it's very important to understand that vindictive individuals can do terrible things to people. and they shouldn't in a sense get away with it. but the much more important issue is whether we can talk publicly and openly and say very critical things if we want to about government policy or corporate policy. those things really have to be sacrosanct for journalists. >> let's talk about julien assange, is his experience over the last you years making others afraid to do that sort of

disruptive work? >> i think it's a fair question. and the fear that many journalists feel having witnessed what's happened to julien assange, that if you do open your mouth and say very critical things or have government documents they don't approve of, then suddenly terrible things happen to you and you end up being effectively imprisoned in a little room in an embassy because of threats of extradition and all the rest of it that we know about his case. but it is a very chilling effect on a lot of journalists. so much so, for example, that almost no newspapers here have ever published most of the things that he ever said or did. and so it's a particularly difficult issue, let alone for the serious issue of his own personal safety and all the -- and health. it's very difficult being locked in a little room without sun or air for three years, which he's been. simply because no one will guarantee him he won't be extradited to face a trial about which he's never been charged. >> right. and the question there being,

people are concerned that a publisher might be facing this kind of bullying or punishment. on the other hand, abby, we've discussed this before, if you believe these are serious sex crime charges against him and not a pretext to punish his journalism, then it's okay. that's the open question. >> there's so many things going on, bullying, hacking, people leaking important private documents. gar gavin, how do we deal with this on a global scale? you have edward snowden living in russia. north korea in the news for alleged hacking. i recently lived in beijing and can tell you they definitely do not play by our rules of the game. how do we all get on the same page when everybody is playing by their own rules? isn't that the biggest problem we face? >> one of the biggest problems is, we don't know the rules we're facing. the united states government, according to the snowden documents, have been surveying, quite illegally, hundreds of millions of americans without

their consent or approval, who are in no way a warranted, probable cause. in other words, they've been spied upon and nobody knows why they're being spied upon, except the principle appears to be, by the government, that you're entitled to take the public information of anybody. and use it in any way you want. i think that's the difficulty. the north koreans don't do this on this level. they do other things that are, perhaps, just as unpleasant. but the additional problem for journalists is, what is acceptable behavior by governments? and i think for us and for -- certainly for the symposium we're running in london s to examine those questions, because they're quite powerful questions. >> you definitely have people in the thick of the fights there. there's no doubt if we expect the press -- it can't be under the thumb of government surveillance. gavin mcfadden, thanks for being here today. up next, we head to the motherboard of the digital action on this, yes, maybe you've heard of it, cyber

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the robots are not knew to the industry. amazon is deploying on a scale like it's never done before. it's kind of amazing. guys? >> yeah, definitely looks amazing. thank you guys? >> it definitely looks amazing. hallie jackson, thank you so much. with about ten minutes to the closing bell, stocks are down on lackluster holiday sales. we turn to courtney reagan to the world's largest online retailer of sports products. how's it going? >> things here are looking very, very busy. it is going to be not only the busiest but the best day fanatics has ever seen. right now sales are trending up 25% year over year for cyber monday. that's about the rate that they saw over that thanksgiving black friday weekend as well. so a very busy day. this is one of five distribution

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nie otherness. some. words whites ascribe to blacks are ghosts. you can see why there would be a fear of black bodies, a fear that leads to shoot too soon. a study finds young black men are 21 times more likely to be shot dead by police, this in a world where news of tragic shootings comes so fast that there's not time to finish mourning and protesting one before another happens. so the choking death of eric garner is overshadowed by the shooting death of michael brown which overshadows the shooting

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