can republicans take off a two-item to do list. >> the american people want to the see border security. they want to the see deportations. >> immigration show down. >> republicans questioning secretary johnson towed. >> the intejs of congress is clear, they can be deportable. >> the congress has not given me resources to report 11 million people. >> there's a right way to do this and a wrong way. the president has taken the wrong way. >> enforce the laws already on bookts. >> why haven't we voted on a bill. >> this is a serious breach of the constitution. >> can the president do what he has done. >> what we need to do is stop the process. >> there's the possibility of a lawsuit against the president. >> this is not answer within the

republican party. >> the american people want to see deportations. border security. it's a bustling tuesday in washington where the nation's borders and the senate are in the latest battle with republicans with some sense of reason and, well, the rest of the party. house speaker john boehner has made clear to do whatever it takes to avoid a government shutdown even as his right flank pushes for a legislation outrage of after a closed door meeting with his caucus today clear that the speaker is still working that out. >> we're looking at a number of options in terms of how to address this. this is a serious breach of our constitution and serious threat to to our system of governments. frankly we have limited options and ability to deal with it

directly. >> popular among house conversations a broad bill with short-term funding for the agency for homeland security. earlier today, congressman steve king said he can get behind it. >> we carve out and do the stripping language to prohibit the funds to enforce the president's lawless, unconstitutional acts with regard to immigration, then we have stood the ground our founding fathers have asked us to stand on. >> only problem, speaker boehner zn the have the votes to pass the bill. in this statement --

>> if that wasn't enough, at a house hearing on capitol hill, homeland security jay johnson explained short-term funding would hamper hiatios -- agencie objectives. >> i need help securing the border on the southern border of arizona, texas, new mexico for added surveillance, vehicle, and equipment. i'm hoping congress will support me. >> with this congress he may need more than hope. luke, the statement is a big development in this sauga. does this mean that john boehner

won't have the voted to pass the omnibus that is being floated. >> that's the million dollar question is where are democrats on this prop pole as. on this proposal. you saw kneneil right there adamantly against it. you played steve king in the opening, very important voice, he staked out the right of the right on immigration. if he is okay with this, you would think more will follow suit but talking to more conservative members they are uncomfortable funding homeland security to march they want it less than that, maybe all the way to january. they don't want to hand over the levers of government that long. >> they might only fund dhs for three weeks? >> that is one of the options on the table in front of the speaker from the more conservative members.

what we're kboigoing to see is much power does boehner and mcconnell have, can this translate into them having control over their conference. they believe they can. they believe they can get 218 to this. but it is not over in the house gop conference until the fat lady sings and she's not getting ready to sing by any means right now. >> yeah that lady takes her time in the house republican. what happens in the senate, do they take two bills, for three weeks? >> that's what is interesting that hary reed was coy saying eleven out of twelve appropriation bills being passed under this gop proposal is not a bad things. when you look at how they have gone over the last three years,

he does have a point. all that said, reed might decide whether or not he takes this prop poosal from the gop or let take here until christmas and fight this out. it will be interesting to see. so far we're not see wrg he will come down. >> no incentive for the u.s. congress better than old st. nick. >> that's right. >> thanks for being with me. >> be well. >> david, a three week funding of dhs. seems republicans don't understand that defunding or halting funds to dhs effectively stops the border mechanism that they are so intent to bobolster >> it is the funniest joke of the day. they want to the take away money from the u.s. deporting more

people, which they want. they want the deportations, these conservatives out there, they're going to make it harder for you to do it. okay. make it harder to border security. but also a lot of the executive action that they don't like, that the president is implementing here, is conducted by the immigration service, which is not funded by congress, per say, it is funded by immigration application fees. so they can't even get the money for the things they don't like. >> right. >> i guess it is the best they have. but i am surprised that there's not more of a clamoring amongst the tea party crowd for a government shutdown. >> never say never david. maria teresa, the other piece of this is republicans are not just facing resistance from pemember of their own party, today there were protesters. i want to play some sound what

they had to say to republicans. they are clearly not happy urging republicans to keep families together and not try the president for his immigration action. the whole point of the republicans trying to put the, you know, let their conservative members vent and move forward with the funding bill because they know immigration is not a good issue to get stuck on. the longer this process plays out, seems the worse it is for the party in the short, medium and the long term. >> absolutely right. when boehner says he has nothing to turn to, that's absolutely not true. he does have a bill he can put in frornt of the house that was done by the gang of eight. that has been on their desk for over 500 days, he could do it tomorrow, he's just choosing not to.

the president what he did with the executive action found a loophole where the fees pay for them selfs. if they choose not found and do the continuing regulation, they defund the programs that republicans care about. >> it is kwielt lquite literall cutting off your nose despite your face. >> exactly right. >> we know loretta lynch was on the hill today. she faces the possibility of next gop, will rehash this debate over executive action and the question of amnesty versus reform. >> it is clear they have gotten tired of obamacare. >> right. >> so they need something else to scream about but more they scream the higher they raise the stakes in terms of satisfying their base. so can't do anything on the mechanisms of government on

immigration, per say, they will stop the appointment of loretta lynch here or maybe whoever gets appointed, the department of dea defense. that, again may satisfy a few of the red meat people on their own side but will make them look rather silly and it sounds as if boehner and mcconnell don't want to get tarred with this obstructionist tea party brush any longer. i don't know how they will avoid doing that. don't forget there's a debt ceiling coming up in a few months. so at some point the tea party fever does take over and there will be an explosion. >> i think on the space when talking about confirming loretta lynch, the alternative is eric holder, is that who you want? >> keeping eric holder, the man who they held in contempt of

congress has their attorney general. >> -- there is an alternative to the immigration action, working behind the scenes, what can you tell us about that, should we take stock in this reporting in terms of a viable alternative being presented? >> i think to his credit he's been working on immigration long before the republicans wanted to and he's done it across the aisle, it's not something people realize. it is smart business but he recognizes they need the latina vote to win the white house and i think the republicans know they have to come up with something. the longer they allow the executive action out there, the president will take the credit for the latina community and

they don't want this in 2016. >> thank you both. >> thanks alex. who will be the next secretary of defense that following the resignation of chuck hagel next week. several saying president obama has settled on ashton carter. when asked about his nomination, the white house offered praise but said there would be no announcement today. coming up after three decades on the board of temple university, bill cosby is out. we will speak about that. plus a gear up of the thorough review of the federal food stamp program. we went to one of the poorest counties in america to see what it is like to rely on food assistance. i will separate the receiptretoe

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others skr cut ties with cosby as well. spelman college who received $20 million gift with cosby is not cutting ties saying this in a statement. >> cosby has denied the allegations of sexual assault in the past and has never been charged or convicted after i crime. joining me now is student body president at temple university r raymond, thank you for joining me. the news that bill cosby would be resigning from the temple board of trustees sent shock waves around the world. tell us how the student body there has digested this. >> the best thing to describe a

temple student is, number one, they are plugged into media and prized to the situation of what goes on. so they were plugged into this when the allegation started. it has been a constant conversation around campus about what is true, what should the university do. when he stepped down yesterday, the general consensus was that it was the right thing to do for temple. i said it to the associated press, it started to bring down the reputation of the institution, in the court of public opinion, unfortunately bill cosby was guilty. and to cut ties was so the institution wouldn't get cut down. >> given the long ties, i'm

assume tlg were some students when were defenders of cosby, tell us about the split. >> a majority of students said the split need to happen but of course there is loyalty, it is a vast campus with majority, you will see students not quite aware of what cosby has done in his past. so a decent amount of students wlo were there when the cosby show aired, those students are thinking, maybe we should keep our loyalties, and not cut those ties. but those students started to realize when these allegations become so main stream, national news, like i said, the reputation of the institution really starts to go down. >> were most students aware that andrea was on the staff at

temple university. >> not until recently until that story came out. >> i wonder if most temple students know that patrick o'conner, currently the chair of the university board of trustees was one of bill cosby's attorney in andrea's lawsuit, is that something that temple students know. >> i would say they didn't know until the news started to connect the dots from 2005, so really only lately. >> the question of sexual assault is something we are talking about nationally, not just in relation to bill cosby but a major issue on college scam pumed -- campuses. >> how much confident do you have that temple university will handle that issue given what happened with dr. cosby. great things to highlight about

temple and the national climate what's going on. we just installed a new president, coming up on his second year now. over the summer before a lot of these issues and a lot of the different things came up. he put together what is called the president's sexual misconduct on college campuses committee to reevaluate where temple stands with how we deal with these cases, looking at what we need to chacnge and surveying the cam papus to best support them. >> thanks for your time. >> thank you. >> coming up, republicans insist they are lulled into the hands of independency. we will show you what it is like to rely on food stamps.

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last month mike conway had this to say. >> note to the congressman, that is now how bias works. in the first of a series of reports, i went to kentucky's poorest counties in the country to find whut it really means to rely on food stamps. >> second thessalonian 3:10. >> she has two homes. how can she make it without food stamps. >> when you look at china they don't have food stamps. >> this is the course of shame. >> when did america change the dignity of a job for a culture of dependency.

>> you can no longer sit on your couch and expect the government to feed you. >> i heard this story so many times, standing in line behind people with a food stamp card and look in their basket and one individual said i love crab legs, well we haven't been able to have them in our house in who knows when. but i'm standing behind a guy who has those in his pocket. >> usually i get a box of mac and cheese and make my own. >> she is a single mother of four who relies on federal food stamps to make things eat. for sarah they have no crab legs, wouldn't even buy kraft. >> not the kraft. i know it is bad i use tubs of lard. >> is that cheaper? >> yeah i can get a five gallon

bucket of lard and it's $30 for the cheapest they have. >> when you live in poferty, poverty simple choices are humbling. >> do i have money to make a cake, a lot of things go through your mind when you're shopping, i'm like, man i really need that, but that's going to have to wait. you shouldn't stress how you will feed your government, even when you are drawing from the government. >> the thing this county is most known for is its poor. >> my five-year-old asked me the other day, he said, mommy are we poor? i said we're not poor we just have a rough time making it. we don't make as much as everybody else.

>> she receives from a program for low income. she qualifies by working at a clothing institution. >> i knew i had to do something better for my four children. i'm only eligible for the k tap program for five years after that what am i going to do? what's going to be my income? so i got on a school program. >> in this portion of the country, employment is hard to come by. the largest town in the county sits vacant and overgrown. >> there's no jobs here. i mean, there's nothing. >> with the median income at $22,000, it is one of the poorest counties in america. that's one of the reasonings that more than half of its residents rely on food stamps to make things meet. >> i get out here and work for

it. >> the help she relies on each month to feed her family won't fix the problems in this and other places desperate for jobs, industry and growth but for now this hope is one of the last things giving her and her children a chance. >> you have four kids. right. when you think about what you want for them? >> i want them to r50ealize i don't have to go through all that. i can get up. i can be where mommy's at. where she ended, i can start there. if that makes sense. you can't be somebody coming out of a place where people are telling you, no you can't do it. >> joining me democrat congressman and ceo and pinte to the national hunger commission. guys thanks for joining me on today when we are reminded of those in need. i went to kentucky and saw firsthand the absolutely

life-saving roll that food stamp program plays in the lives of so many americans and yet last year house republicans gutted the program to the tune of $40 billion. give us a sense where the house caucus is, where your colleagues are at in the subject of snap at present. >> unfortunately there's a war against the poor in washington. there's many of my colleagues on the republican side never talked to anyone on snap, never been to a food pantry, never met a runni hungry child, instead they think people are lazy, taking advantage of the system. the fact of the matter is as you know being poor is hard work in america and many people who are on snap today who are veterans who were in our military, many who are working, but their work pay soz little that they couldn't afford to put food on the table. so, you know, we have to stop

this war against the poor and start focussing on the real issues to help lift families up. we're the richest country in the history of the world and have 50 million people who are hungry. that is unconionable we should be ashamed of that. >> the narrative of fraud and that these folks are trying to gain the system is so entrenched and poisonous that has come to almost define the debate. i wonder how you think that's happened. >> well it's really an old story that should be discredited by now because our government and department of agriculture has done so much to completely eliminate fraud from this program. when you understand who is on the program, children, seniors, disabled people, you realize that there's really not a lot of room for fraud among them,

that's who is hungry in america today. we had 26 million before the recession. we have 46 million today. those additional 20 million are people who were working in this country, who are great citizens and still are, but they lost their jobs and need this help. as congressman says, it's a very solvable problem. >> less than 1% of snap funds go to ineligible households. 99% non-fraudulent. democrats have seated a lot of ground in establishing a narrative. when we talk about a war against the poor, it feels the democrats side of the battle have laid down the battle axe's in a way, i wonder if you think democrats should give voice to nethese voiceless americans, in tune of

37 milli 47 million to rely on this to make ends meet. >> congress cut snap by billions of dollars, everyone on the program received a cut, and food prices continue to rise. i think the democrats need to take more leadership on this issue. i've been asking the white house to do a white house conference on food, nutrition and hunger to come up with a road map to end hunger in america. not just about if wic or snap or school feeding programs, there's a lolt of other things we need to do like insist people who work don't have to live in poverty. we need to take greater leadership on this and my hope is that the white house will help us lead the way by doing a white house conference on food, nutrition and hunger. >> i feel it is so focused on

both sides of the aisle. the 34i8dmiddle class is gettin poorer and no one talks about the poor. >> there are many who go to food banks who work, full time, they earn so little that they can't ford to put food on the table, so the narrative that some of my republican colleagues have put out there is just fiction. the fact is you got children, seniors, disabled, and amongst those working, a majority of them work. if democrats don't take the lead, no one will. >> that's true. billy you're always on the front lines on the fight against hunger but today you have a special initiative can you tell us more about it. >> our's is devoted to our no kit hungry campaign. you can donate online.

the food company hickory farms is matching up to the first $50,000 donated. it is a great way to raise money for a solvable problem. even if you don't have a passion for the poor, if you care about educations, schools, jobs, about our competitiveness as a nation, we have to solve this hunger problem. we can't have a strong america with kids who are not strong. >> it has a cascade effect indeed. thank you gentleman for your time and the work you're doing. >> thank you. in the spirit of giving tuesday, we want the to highlight a program we saw firsthand in eastern kentucky. tomorrow we will tell you what the backpack program does for low income children and why without it some children don't have a meal all weekend long. to find out more about that program and how you can support it head to msnbc.com/backpack.

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