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>> i do think the american people deserve more answers about what really happened here. >> the will of the people urging us on. ♪ ♪ >> good to have you with us, tonight, folks. thanks for watching. i'm going to talk a little about change tonight. change happens in every generation. this is our opportunity as a country to do something. will all these protests bring change? protests around the country are going strong. americans are still upset that a new york city police officer was not indicted in the death of eric garner. earlier today president obama addressed the situation for a second time. >> when it comes as we've seen unfortunately in recent days to our criminal justice system, too many americans feel deep unfairness when it comes to the gap between our professed ideals and how laws are applied on a

day-to-day basis. >> before i came here i had a chance to speak with mayor de blasio in new york and i commended him for his words and the way new yorkers have been engaging in peaceful protests and being constructive. he was just in the white house with us on monday as we started taking some concrete steps to strengthen the relationship between law enforcement and the communities of color and i intend to take more steps with leaders like him in the months ahead. >> protests took place around the country last night. the biggest demonstrations here in new york where over 80 people were arrested. protesters gathered in times square, union square, here at rockefeller center and grand central station. they made their voices clear. >> they're targets now. every black man is a target. guess what? this don't end here. this is going to happen constantly. if you ain't got a cell phone you're in bad shape. >> there's no justice. no justice. i hope there will be peace. >> to kill that man over here over a loose cigarette which

costs 50 cents to choke him? to have him saying that i can't breathe? you have video and you have audio and you can't get a conviction? what else do you need? >> are you concerned that there will be unrest like you've seen in ferguson that that will happen here? >> yeah. i do. the cops around here -- they not for the community. they're for themselves. >> no, i'm not surprised, but it should have been -- he should have been indicted and i really feel disappointed. >> i'm truly upset. i have grown sons and, you know, i fear for their life as well. god forbid they get caught doing something wrong. >> i hope america is listening, lots of anguish and there's still hope. >> protests are held in union square in manhattan. outrage is pretty simple. a police officer was caught on camera killing an unarmed black man and that's how people are viewing it. talk to them on the street.

the choke hold was against nypd rules and not against the law and garner's death was ruled a homicide even though a grand jury didn't indict the officer. federal prosecution is still possible. >> the justice department will proceed with a federal civil rights investigation into mr. garner's death. prosecutors will conduct an independent, thorough, fair and expeditious investigation. >> there aren't many americans out there who think garner's killing was justified. last night new york democratic delegation expressed their outrage of the grand jury decision. they made it very clear a great injust hiice had taken place. on the flipside there's new york congressman peter king. >> a 350-pound person resisting arrest. the police were trying to bring him down as quickly as possible. if he had not had asthma and a heart condition and was so obese almost definitely he would not

have died for this. the police had no reason to know he was in serious condition. he said 11 times, the fact is if you can't breathe, you can't talk. >> if this, if that, if whatever. peter king, i think you're standing on an island. >> earlier today, house speaker john boehner had this to say regarding garner's death. >> my colleague kevin rogers earlier today suggested that there may need to be hearings. i'm not going to rule that in or out, but i do think that the american people deserve more answers about what really happened here and -- and was our system of justice handled properly. >> now that's an interesting sound bite. john boehner says the american people want answers. mr. boehner, you're in a position of power. you can make sure those hearings take place. now washington is injecting itself into this process which i

think is a good thing because washington has done those kinds of things in the past and i'll explain in a moment. the fact that john boehner is willing to admit that there is a problem is a big step forward. earlier today the congressional black caulk awes sought legal counsel concerning the grand jury testimony. they want the entire testimony released. members told me change can't take place unless there is complete transparency. as for the demonstrations across america as they take place, it's clear to me that these 20-somethings, these young americans out in the street, certainly they want justice, but they want more than justice. they want a better america. they want justice and they want fairness along with it. they want an opportunity and a better life and a system that doesn't favor the wealthy all the time. they want their voices heard. you know there was 190 cities in this country today where people walked off the job because the wages are too low? do you think that's a problem? what these young people can't

lose is hope. they must continue to believe that they can make a difference and these protests must stay non-violent. they must be martin luther kinglike and they must continue and that's how you bring change. and we all draw on our personal experiences. change comes in every generation of america. i want to take you back 43 years ago. i was just a 17-year-old kid on the sidelines watching life go by. what was the mission back then? well, on the football team and the high school that i went to, the issue was forced bussing for racial equality. we all had something in common, no doubt. absolutely. we had to integrate because the federal government told us we had to. we had to go to school with black guys. we had to go to school with kids on the other side of town. racial equality and that's what the federal government said back then and what we had in common was the vietnam war was raging and there had been one drafrt in

'69 and another one in '70 and all ever us were fearing that holy smokes, they might have another draft and our number might get called. the rich kids were getting deferments. how did that work out? and there were protests all over america. so many protests that this country decided to do what many americans wanted. get the hell out of vietnam and do some change. that can happen now. and as it was change being forced 43 years ago, and i saw it and i believe today that change can happen, and i don't know what role the federal law has in law enforcement or street interaction in america, but i think we've got to have people who are concerned about it enough to try to do something about it. we were told to do something. we did it. it worked. it can work. we're a great nation. for us to sit here and bitch every night talk about this happened and this happened and this happened and why, why, why?

okay. it's up to the leaders. leadership is important in america. talk's cheap. we have to move on this. just like we moved on the civil rights movement of the '60s, just like we moved on integration, just like kid his to get up in the morning and go to a different school for equality. now we're at another one of those moments. these kids in the streets across america. they don't want their health care taken away. they want a chance at an education without being broke. they want to make sure they will get a good job that pays them well and it doesn't go overseas. is that asking too much? change. if you're not in the street and if your voices aren't heard it's not going to happen. for boehner to say what he said today, to me, is the money sound bite that something might happen because people of authority are the ones that we have to depend on. you know, authority is a hell of a thing. those cops on that street had authority.

they had responsibility, and they had a result and america doesn't like it. now what are we going to do about it? get your cell phones out. i want to know what you think. tonight's question, do you think anything will ever really change in law enforcement dealing with minorities? text a for yes, text b for no. go to ed.msnbc.com and we encourage you to leave a comment there. for more let me bring in texas congressman al green. congressman, good to have you with us tonight. >> good to be with you, ed. >> do you think speaker boehner is serious about these hearings? do you think that if these protests across america continue that the federal government will get involved? >> i hope that he is serious and i will take him at his word, but i do caution him to understand that he will have to stand his ground because there are a good many people who are making it

their mission to contact members of congress who talk about change. there are people that want to maintain a status quo. they are well organized and i assure you they're mobilized to make these calls and make certain conversations unpleasant when they're talking to you. with reference to change, ed, i am so pleased that you have made this a topic of discussion because without peaceful protest you will have, at best, piecemeal change. you have to have protests to have great gain, to have the change that we seek, the protestation must continue. so i'm encouraging those who are taking to the streets in a peaceful way to, please, continue to do what you do. i will join you. i believe that we got here because of change that was created by the protests. many of them took place in the '60s. when dr. king marched from selma to montgomery, that created change, but it was really bloody sunday that caused the world to

see what the horrors of segregation were all about. i'm encouraging peaceful protest. i support law enforcement. i believe that those who commit crimes ought to go to jail, it doesn't matter who you are. no person should be above the law and no person should be beneath the law. the law should be applied equally to all. >> congressman, what will hearings accomplish? maybe i better put this question forth first. what will it take for john boehner to make sure there's hearings? how much more has to happen? >> well, speaker boehner has it within his power. >> for him to say that today i think is big. >> i think it's very big. >> want to compliment him. >> because people in authority are the ones that are going to have to move on this. i happen to think that speaker boehner spoke truthfully, and i did caution about the many people who will contact him to

persuade him. and some degree of transparency, ed. what we are seeing now is an abuse, an abuse of the discretionary powers that the prosecutors have and this abuse of power can cause the grand jury system that we want to respect, that we do respect to become questioned because you cannot allow the grand jury to take on the perception of being a char chamber where there is little due process where secret statements are made and you don't really get a chance to understand all of what happened before that grand jury. we cannot allow the grand jury to be abused. you have to protect the integrity of the process, ed. if we don't stand now and protect the integrity of the grand jury process and not allow the prosecutors to abuse the

discretion. people will distrust the system. these people protesting are protecting the american judicial system. >> good to have you with us tonight. you are looking live at lower manhattan, and the city is expecting thousands of protesters out and the plea is out by the mayor, bill de blasio to keep it peaceful. let me bring in darrell parks, attorney for the brown family and dr. james peterson, msnbc contributor of africana studies at lehigh university. good to have you with us. >> darryl, i want to ask you, do you think anything will come of the justice department investigation? the process. what is it? >> without question. i think a lot will come from it. when you have the 18 gaugement from attorney general eric holder and the president on these issues and they're really applying themselves. as you know, the attorney general came to atlanta down

south this week to start talking with leaders and when you have the level of engagement and probably most importantly, the message to law enforcement was that we have to do better. for so long it's been far acceptable to law enforcement that they can't overreach when it comes to minorities. now the message is that's not acceptable so there will definitely be change. mr. parks, i tweeted out today, i want someone from law enforcement to come forward and explain the videotape. i think the count rry isn't goi to feel any restitution whatsoever unless we are, as a country, talked to about what happened on that street, and i'm mean a play-by-play of what these cops did and how they did it. what training has taken place in the career of these cops to have them come to this judgment and to this kind of force, and dr. peterson, if we don't have that conversation and we don't have that explanation, where does it

take us? i'm sorry to say, ed. i don't think there is an explanation that will be satisfactory to you or to many of the american people with respect to this video. that's the challenge here. people see the video, and i've seen some criminal law and criminal justice experts try to explain different moves and it's this kind of move and it's this kind of move and that kind of move. when people see it with their own two eyes this man is choked to death, people will see the law officers on his back and on his head and he's saying, i can't breathe. there is no way to explain away the tape. the american people have seen it and obviously by nature of the protests that you see right now they've evaluated and made their own decisions. >> so mr. parks, if the video is not a big deal to the grand jury, how do we know it's going to be a big deal in the federal investigation? >> without question. we don't know why the grand jury came to that decision and hopefully the transcripts will be released at some point.

it is okay for us to believe our lying eyes. we see what happened and no one has to interpret that for us. so without question, there is no explanation i really need. i see it. i understand what it is and we can certainly come to our own determination as to eric garner. we hear him crying for his life for god's sake. it doesn't get clearer than this case. >> we are looking at live shots of lower manhattan right now. demonstrations and protests can lose their credibility in a heartbeat if there's any kind of violence. what are your expectations here? what's going to happen as you see it? >> ed, i have a different viewpoint on this. obviously, the preponderance of people that are out there are protesting and trying to demonstrate their anger and frustration with ways that are not working for people in this country. i want to make sure that law enforcement keeps a level head, understands the frustration and anguish, and i want to challenge law enforcement to make sure that these things are peaceful

and that they're not antagonized easily by a small group of people that want to disrupt these things and the reality is people are expressing their frustration because they're seeing what we're seeing and there are too many of these cases and the grand jury process is not working to get justice out of these cases and too often we're left in anguish and pain with the loss of life in our communities with no recourse and so that's what we're seeing play itself out in the american streets and hopefully law enforcement can understand that and appreciate that and respect that. >> gentlemen, thanks so much. the conversation continues. remember to answer tonight's question there at the bottom of the screen and share your thoughts with us on facebook and like us. coming up, we have new documents from the grand jury. the garner grand jury. keep it right here. we're right back. ve been calledl freak... i like to think of myself as more of a control... enthusiast. mmm, a perfect 177-degrees. and that's why this road warrior rents from national.

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welcome back to the ed show. there are calls for more information to learn why the grand jury decided not to indict officer daniel pantaleo in the death of eric garner. staten island district attorney daniel donovan is asking for specific information to be released by the public. this afternoon the judge released a document giving us some insight into the case. the 23-member grand jury sat for nine weeks and heard from 50 witnesses, 60 exhibits were admitted into evidence including four videos and recordings regarding nypd policies and procedures. a lot of the focus has been on the intent of officer pantaleo's actions. officer pantaleo said in a statement following the decision that it's never in his intention to harm the new york city pba president also released a statement saying it's clear that the officer's intention was to do nothing more than take mr.

garner into custody as instructed, but i think really, they're focusing on the wrong element here. i think it shouldn't be on the officer's intent. it should be about the officer's responsibility and the actions and the result of the actions. take a look at the video. pantaleo's lawyer tells the new york times the officer testified he was employing a maneuver taught to him at the police academy. a lot of people consider the officer's actions an illegal choke hold. my opinion, police officers have authority and with that authority comes responsibility. in this case the way the police used their authority and the result should have been the focus of the grand jury, not the intent. >> for more, let's bring in karen desoto and former prosecutor and professor of political science at new jersey city university and mike papantonio and ring of fire radio host. great to have both of you with us.

>> the focus of the grand jury, intent, what about actions? what about result? what about responsibility? >> because they are there to indict someone on criminal charges, not the police department, but the individual. therefore, ed, the focus defers to the defendant in the case. therefore the laws are designed to be more helpful and not hurtful to a defendant. we'll give him every benefit of the doubt so if it is that he doesn't have liability because he was just doing what he was trained to do and then criminal liability does not attach and that is the legal concept and sometimes it's very hard for lay people to understand, but if you're just doing your job then obviously you need to do whatever you need to do to the police department and try and get rid of a statute and try to get some type of law and direction to the attorney general guideline because at the end of the day i want everyone to understand that choke holds are guidelines. so short of a legislator getting

together and having directives saying nonviolence and violence like back in 1985 with the tennessee case which was a huge case talking about nonviolence and violence and taking somebody into custody and 21 states changed their law after that so we need litigation. >> mike papantonio, as you see it, what should be changed some? >> it's impossible to analyze these facts without first understanding yet choke hold was banned off limits, not only in new york, but in law enforcement organizations all over the country? the only time an officer can use a choke hold is when his life or another person's life is in danger. there are half a dozen other types of body restraints that are far more effective. so in new york, you talked about what's important here. do we get to the intent issue route first? looking at this film and understanding what happened. what happened is this officer violated what he was told not to do. he was told do not use a choke hold unless you have to.

in new york, the civilian complaint review board receives 2 hinn reports of choke holds every year. in reality, that's a fraction of what happens. this officer's been told not to do that and he does it anyway. at the very least we ought to be talking about recklessness. it's important, ed, it's extremely important to understand how violently dangerous the choke hold is. usually it's not done properly, it crushes the wind pipe and it cuts off a steady flow of oxygen to the brain and in addition to that it has the potential to close down the carotid artery. so we have to look at the totality of what this officer was faced with. >> part of the defense here -- >> it's on cigarettes. >> part of the defense here is that you can't talk when you're being choked. your thoughts on that. >> that's what peter king is saying and that's what people are saying defending the decision of the grand jury. >> we don't even know at this point what the coroner said, ed,

the coroner said this is a homicide and i'll tell you what happened. this d.a. put through the grand jury all of his forensic pals that look like experts that know everything. nobody was cross examined and these forensic experts make it look like, gee, whiz this officer did exactly what he was supposed to do and that's the disadvantage of grand jury. you have the grand jury process and i'll disagree with my colleagues and we have a saying in the law that you can indict a ham sandwich. they're professionals and retired people and they ask questions and they know enough to ask for documents. so it's offensive to say that they're not in a position to be able to make these decisions. they're doing a tremendous public service. obviously, one of the questions is should the prosecutor have led them more? should they have cross examined more? we don't know what went on in there. >> so that takes us to the

documents. why aren't the documents going to be released? the congressional black caucus is seeking legal counsel on how they'll get released and now it seems we'll get it piecemeal in an untimely fashion. >> i am with you, and i believe that grand jury transcripts should always be released. they're released only to me as the attorney, however if we'll talk about transparency and opening up some dialogue, mediation and maybe, you know, coming to some kind of restorative justice strategy. release the transcripts. let's see how the grand jurors were presented the evidence and what evidence is in question and there is a lot of question and people want facts and if we knew the packs we would understand this better. >> what will it take to get a full release of the transcripts down in ferguson even though no one agreed with it, the transcripts were made available after the press conference. >> look at the ferguson transcript. it didn't really tell us how

everything was presented and there are nuances to how the d.a. presents information to the grand jury. what is emphasized and where does he pay his attention. here you have the d.a. who at one time was floating around the idea of running as a republican congressional representative in staten island. he needs the help of the police department to get elected and to handle his next court case. so i have it. it's impossible for me to believe that the way that information is presented, when we look at that video that the way that information was presented falls in the face of what we would see in front of a real jury where there's real cross-examination -- >> who will say anything you need them to say. >> it's a grand jury. it's not a real jury. that's not the intent. it's probable cause, more probable than not that a crime occurred. so depending on the information and, listen, there's information that we're not privy to and a lot of things we don't know

which is why i always say wait, hear the facts and then make a determination because there is a lot of misinformation, ed and this is a very passionate case. >> but we would know a lot more if we had a full transcript. >> i hear you. if this was on the up and up and no special prosecutor and they want to justify that this was independent and the information was okay, release the transcripts. >> it's hard to look for change unless you know everything that has unfolded. mike papantonio, karen desoto. great to have both of you on tonight. coming up, policing in america is coming under fire. a 30-year law enforcement veteran joins me next and at this hour, protests are happening all over america. we'll bring you the latest. you're looking live at lower manhattan right there here in new york as protesters gather for night number two. we're right back. stay with us. they're coming. what do i do? you need to catch the 4:10 huh? the equipment tracking system will get you to the loading dock. ♪ there should be a truck leaving now. i got it.

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welcome back to "the ed show." people want answers. americans will not quickly forget seeing the video of eric garner being surrounded by police. i think someone in law enforcement needs to step up and explain what happened here. president obama expressed his concern. >> when anybody in this country is not being treated equally under the law, that's a problem and it's my job as president to help solve it. >> and i think a big part of the solution is a full explanation from law enforcement. somebody with the authority close to the incident has got to come forward and explain all of this, as i see it. daniel pantaleo, the police officer who put his arms around

eric garner's neck during the arrest issued this statement. i became a police officer to help people and protect those who can't protect themselves. it is never my intention to harm anyone, and i feel very bad about the death of mr. garner. my family and i include him and his family in our prayer, and i hope that they will accept my personal condolences for their loss. that statement is not an explanation. it's not a promise of change. the medical examiner ruled garner's death a homicide, heart disease and obesity contributed to the death, but the police officer overexerted themselves physically on an unhealthy man and killed him. the police officers involved face no repercussions while the family is grieving eric garner's loss? >> a cop did wrong. somebody that gets paid to do right did wrong and he's not held accountable for it, but my husband's death will not be in vain. as long as i have a breath in my body i will fight the fight until the end. thank you.

>>. >> they didn't only fail me. they failed many of us and if we don't take care of this, they may fail you in the future. >> the outrage of this no-indictment ruling, people in st. louis and that area are empathizing and they continue to protest the ruling not to indict officer darren wilson for killing unarmed teenager michael brown. protesters have been chanting one resounding phrase. >> hands up! don't shoot! >> hands up! don't shoot! hands up! don't shoot! >> hands up, don't shoot is a simple call for change in the law enforcement tactics in america. the video shows eric garner putting his hands up. is this asking too much? fess up, own up, explain to all of us. explain to the kids today who are of a different skin color of

mine that when they're walking the street they don't have anything to worry about. yeah, right. joining me a former florida police chief and founder and president of drago professional consultants. also with us, darryl parks, attorney for the michael brown family, great to have both of you with us. >> chuck, is it too much to ask that bee would get as americans an explanation as to what the heck happened here? >> no. america deserves an explanation. we all deserve an explanation. the most important thing when we're dealing with police is for transparency is for people to understand what they're doing and why. an explanation is critical in these times. >> so i guess i'm looking for someone connected to the new york police department to hold a press conference, go through the tape and explain the role of every officer and explain how this happened, why this

happened, is that just out of the question? is this something that could be done? the american people will not come to grips with this without an explanation. they've made theirs and they've made their own decision and then there will be an explanation and the public to move forward as a country, the public needs to know the training and the thinking behind all of this to move on. what about that? >> i think that is very important and one of the mistakes that police defendants, i think, make across the country when they have a serious issue like this occurring is that they clam up or they circle the wagons or they get lawyered up, so to speak and they're afraid to say too much at that point because they know they'll be sued or their officers won't talk because they're afraid they'll be charged criminally. everyone clams up and nobody wants s ts to give out any information. in some cases, the police department thinks that's the

better way to go or the safer way to go. people need information and when you don't give people information is when they get nervous and that's what happens in these cases. >> mr. parks, is there a chance we may never know the full testimony and how everything unfolded in front of the grand jury? >> well, we may never know, but i'll say this, though. i think the change that we want to see in our country will happen as a result of the deaths we've seen and as a result of the grand jury actions and prosecutorial actions that we've seen in both of these cases. i think change is inevitable because the people are demanding it, and i think it was great what we heard the speaker of the house say and hinges we heard the president say and the attorney general say. these are all positive things that finally, they all agree something has to change here. >> chuck, what would remedy the tactic that was used on the street from what your professional experience and from viewing the videotape? >> well, the officer shouldn't have grabbed him around the

throat and i can't explain to you why he did that or didn't do that. the officers were trying to make that arrest. they wanted to restrain mr. garner and one of the officers took that approach. i don't know why he did it. it's not an approach that's trained and it's not the way officers are trained to restrain someone at that point. what they should have continued to do was try to talk him into being handcuffed and of course, if he continued to refuse to do that they would have to try to take him by using hands and forcing his hands behind him. it's not an easy situation for a police officer when you're dealing with someone who does not want to be handcuffed it can be very, very dangerous for the officers and very difficult to do and you want to avid that confrontation. >> that's the key. where officers are lacking in training, in my opinion. >> well, do they train the choke hold? i mean, is this standard

operating procedure? >> no. i want to make sure we've got our speakdown right. a choke hold as opposed to a vascular restraint where you stop the blood flow on the sides of the neck. a choke hold is where you asphyxiate somebody. and they're two different holds and two different practices or techniques. the choke hold, i don't know of anyone that teaches or allows a choke hold in their police department. the vascular restraint is a common type of hold that you use across the country. i'm not personally in favor of it, but there are many departments that do use it and do allow their officers to use it and there are a lot of people that will argue for the benefits of that type of hold, but it does not choke the individual. that type of individual does not choke an individual. >> give us an idea of how that would sound in front of a grand jury. >> obviously, they've tried to explain it away in terms of what

was taking place to justify the officer's actions and obviously from what we could tell from the video, this officer was using excessive force and eric garner told him time and time again that he couldn't breathe and it ultimately led to his death and it had a negative effect on eric garner given the situation that he found himself in. >> chuck drago and darryl park, i appreciate your time on this. >> we are keeping an eye on the protests building this hour in new york. we'll check in with our crews on the street just ahead. stay with us. we're right back with "the ed show." begins with the cloud. this is "titanfall," the first multi-player game built and run on microsoft azure. empowering gamers around the world to interact in ways they never thought possible. this cloud turns data into excitement. this is the microsoft cloud.

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we are back. the marches continue across the country. waves of protests continued today for eric garner. crowds gathered chanting garner's last words, "i can't breathe." demonstrators flooded times square. they gathered at the staten island site of garner's death.

mayor bill de blasio supported the citywide response. >> this city respects people's rights, respects their right to raise their voices. understands that's part of what makes us a democracy. we are proud of how we respect protests. we think this is the right way to do things. >> the protests were mostly peaceful. 83 arrests occurred overnight. the majority of those charged with disorderly conduct. no one was charged with assaulting an officer. several more rallies and vigils are planned for this evening. nearly every state across the nation will host a demonstration. for more let's go to our panel tonight. tremaine lee. also joining us is t-dubb-o and jennifer ebbs adam. tremaine, what are you hearing

on the ground as we look at our live picture and see a bunch of people standing around. what are they saying? >> here where i'm standing, just a few feet from the site where eric garner died that july day, the response has been rather measured. there is not so much anger as reflection. a group is gathering for a vigil and rally. across the city there's this unfurling of anger and nrpg, here people have been more reflective. i spoke with eric garner's mother and father today, separate occasions. and while the mother said she's thankful and still feels blessed despite all the pain her family is going through, she's going to push forward and still a hope for change. she very much appreciates the words of mayor de blasio seeming to empathize with the plight of so many black parents who have lost black children. be them older men like mr.

garner or children. here on the ground, there's still pain and hurt. reflecting on steps moving forward. >> it has been a day of protests across america. let's go to jennifer epps adams. in the low wage living protests that have taken place, fast food workers walked off the job and were accompanied by convenience store workers. what's happening? is this taking hold? >> it's absolutely taking hold, ed. the theme for today's actions were bigger, badder and bolder. and that's what they were. bigger than ever before in 190 communities, including 17 cities here in wisconsin where workers participated in striking. they were bolder. shutting down bridges in minnesota. shutting down entire stores in michigan. here in wisconsin we shut down a shopping mall in the suburbs. workers are taking bolder actions to get their voices

heard. and they are connecting the dots between the move for economic justice and racial justice. each of the protests in these 190 cities started with people raising their hands and saying in solidarity with ferguson and with new york and here in milwaukee where dontrae hamilton was shot 14 times and killed by police officers in solidarity in all of these cities. they are the same communities where big corporations are making billions of dollars in profits exploiting the labor of underpaid workers. this has been an incredible day of protests and democracy. >> t-dubb-o is a community activist and in the demo and the mix of all of this. how do you feel after day one of protests, and are you confident there's going to be change? >> first and foremost, i want to go on record saying that bill de blasio is probably the best mayor in the united states. and st. louis and missouri could use a man of his caliber to work

for the people here. i think change is going to come, but it's going to continue to come at the expense of the fight of the people. these politicians are still sitting on their hands because at the same time these issues aren't affecting them. they aren't getting paid $7.50 an hour. they are getting paid six figures a year. some millions a year. their children aren't being harassed and followed from school and having their constitutional rights taken from them. they don't have to worry about their kid taking six shots to the back. until they get off their hands, it's going to come from the people and that change is going to come as quick as everybody in this nation wake up and realize there's a problem and get out of their offices, come out of the bars, the shopping centers and join forces. and we can continue to get the america we all dream for. >> tremaine lee, t-dubbo-and jennifer epps.

i'm ed schultz. "politics nation" with reverend al sharpton starts now. >> thanks to you for tuning in. tonight's lead, you are looking at live photos of a protest in downtown new york city after a grand jury declined to indict the officer who used a chokehold on eric garner. all over the country, peaceful protests have erupted calling for change. and it comes as we're learning more about the officer's grand jury testimony and what he said behind closed doors, including his claim he didn't place a chokehold on eric garner. "the new york times" reporting, quote, it was never supposed to be a chokehold, the officer testified. it was a wrestling move. and quote officer pantaleo testified that when he put his hands