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a new promise... to help all those wishes come true. cvs health. because health is everything. good morning everyone. i'm tamron hall this is "newsnation." we begin with breaking news from the white house where just in the past hour president obama announced that ashton carter is his nominee to replace chuck hagel. carter previously held the number two job at the pentagon and is a nuclear physicist with bipartisan support on capitol hill. if confirmed, carter will be president obama's fourth defense secretary in six years. >> with a record of service that spanned more than 30 years, as a public servant, adviser, scholar. he's regarded as one of our nation's foremost national
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security leaders. >> pentagon correspondent jim miklaszewski. part of harry reid's statement i believe in his experience at the pentagon. let's roll out his résume and why you believe or why it is believed the president backed him for the spot. >> it's going to be a seamless transition because as you mentioned a moment ago, ash carter only a year ago was the deputy secretary of defense. he hasn't been out of here that long. and there's going to be some time between now and his conformation. so by the time he's confirmed, probably in february, as the president said he expects ash carter to hit the ground running and nobody expects more than probably carter himself. as the deputy secretary of defense essentially managed every part of the pentagon and in some aspects most of the military. he was responsible for drafting those nearly, you know, $700
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billion budgets. massive budgets for the pentagon. that's one of his primary objectives is to help the pentagon and military adjust to shrinking budgets without hallowing out the military forces. and by the time he takes office, he will be well read and up to speed on the current conflicts with isis, on the situation with russia and ukraine. there's no doubt about it. and as carter himself said he's going to give the president his best candid advice. the question is will the president and his national security team take them. >> thank you. to another developing story we're following in just a few hours protesters are expected to resume in new york and in cities across this country over the grand jury's decision not to indict the officer involved in the death of eric garner. from coast to coast, last night
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protesters were out in large numbers. we saw protests even larger and more organized in the past including in chicago where hundreds of marchers brought traffic to a stand still on major roads. several hundred protesters marched near boston's tree lightening program shutting down traffic and part of the rail line. in washington a massive crowd of protesters gathered about a block from the national christmas tree lightening ceremony. the biggest show of civil disobedience in new york city where shea shut down the brooklyn bridge. there was in downtown manhattan. more than 200 people were arrested. with the federal investigation underway yesterday the staten island zroikt attorney's office released a document disclosing limited information about the grand jury proceeding. among the details revealed the grand jury was given 60 exhibits of evidence and heard from 50 witnesses.
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22 of which were civilians. in the wake of the outrage over the grand jury's decision. new york governor andrew cuomo is calling for a comprehensive review of new york's policies for police training and for grand juries. had this to say during an appearance on the "today" show this morning. >> we've been discussing whether or not it's a reality of grand jury if they found it, if guilty. but the problem is the perception. even if it wasn't the reality. if people don't trust the justice system you have a problem. the justice system's responsibility is twofold. one, do justice but instill the confidence in people that they are represented by that justice system. >> joining me now new york city councilman tremaine williams. his district includes several brooklyn neighborhoods. let me get your reaction to the remarks made by governor cuomo this morning. comprehensive review not just of police policies but also for these grand juries here. >> i think it's important and
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all the steps are important. there is a significant problem with the criminal justice system from top to bottom. i'm glad to see so many outraged and coming out. i think even more diverse than before. i think remain in ignorance i've been hearing you have to do so in a whole new world of insure mountable evidence. >> it's interesting regarding the governor's comments about police policy. we know there's retraining of about 20,000 new york police officers. let's take stop and frisk. you've been stopped as a result of the stop and frisk policy that was in place before de blasio. the community distrust, what many see, is an overreach by police officers specifically directed at african-american men. when you look at the statistics who was pulled over during stop and frisk. overwhelming number black males here. that we're now having this
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conversation after this grand jury decided not to indict. i think some people believe this is a flash point that will go away just stop and frisk. a flash point someone makes a move and it goes away. >> i think not. i think every case is getting worst than the other. and we're not getting to the historical issue. so we went from stop and frisk to issues with broken windows. it's going to be something else until we deal with the root of the problem. one, we have to deal with the culture of policing. but i have to deal with how in the city including new york but across the country deal with black and brown as a whole. the problem with policing also comes from the fact that everyone says that these communities want police. that's 1200%. they ask for housing, better housing, better jobs, or jobs in general. they ask for their street to be cleaner. they ask for youth programs. but we don't hear those. the only thing we hear is the police part. if you only send in police to dot job of many agencies you're
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going to consistently have problems. if you combine that with a culture of policing that has been known to attack these communities, you only set yourself up. >> what we play what the commissioner said on "morning joe" this morning. he was asked about the officer whether he'll remain on the force. let's play what he said. >> i'm going to make the decision relative to violations of policies and procedures. back in 1993 the department issued a policy banning the use of choke holds and there are exceptions. so in each of these instances and there are many choke holds each year, you have to look at the circumstances. >> what would be the exception? >> exceptions can be many in the sense that was the officer involved in a struggle for his life. was he in fear his firearm -- >> this video is not new.
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i would have thought that the police department was in full review of the video before the grand jury decision one way or the other here. it sounds like the clock started now for the commissioner to evaluate that video and the future of this officer. i would imagine you're demanding he be removed from the police force. >> we've been demanding that from the beginning. my understand is that the legal process has spoke ton courts before they begin internally. but so what would be -- and the mayor has to do is retraining which is important. it's not insignificant. we have to. we have to see other things that question feel right now. an accountability is one of those things. and whether it's the officer that killed eric garner or the officer that killed -- gurley. >> it was a case in new york an unarmed man kill bade rookie officer. >> who had a gun in his hand doing patrol before he went into patrol he had the gun out. and many of the videos we've seen where officers are not
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acting properly. we need to see accountability on those in the way we haven't before. if we don't, we're kind of spinning our wheels because no one is being shown the this is bad behavior. so as much as we can do these things, we're going to feel the effect in the future which i think can be real. what about what people want to feel on the ground today. >> thank you so much for joining us. let me bring in the president of the political news cycle and political director for rustle simmons as well as daily beast respond michael daily. michael, let me start here and pick up what we just heard regarding the notion of not spinning one's wheels. when you hear, for example, a retraining or training of police officers, these community concerns, these flair ups between minority communities and police officers this is nothing new. what policy or training would change some of these outcomes that we've seen in major cities,
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not just new york, not just ferguson, but we know allegations of police brutality and excessive force in chicago and any place on the map, perhaps, you can name >>well, i think council men williams is right. there's policy here in place that has led historical policy that lead us to a place where people are getting killed and unarmed people are getting killed by police officers and predominantly people kill bid police officers. and the policies here in new york city have been stop and frisk and broken windows. broken windows policy is a bad piece of policy. and the mayor has been tremendous during the past 48 hours as he's allowed protests to happen in his city and allowed the police to stand back for most of the protests. give him lot of credit. he has the power to end broken windows policy which is stopping guys in the street for cigarettes or small marijuana arrests which he brought down. we have to get rid of broken window policy. >> a lot of people certainly praise the mayor for his passionate remarks in the
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beginning relating it to his own son and saying how he would feel with that said, did the mayor really have a choice here? i cannot imagine the scene if there was heavy handed response to these thousands of protesters in this city of new york. it seems if the protesters have a great amount of power here, not just by the numbers, but by the demand that many of them have a specific policy change that is necessary. they're not just out there to occupy space >>well, to give credit to the protesters and i certainly have joined them for the past two nights in is being lead by young people and young people of color and predominantly women. does the mayor have a choice? of course he has a choice. look what happened in ferguson. any mayor has a choice how to react to the first amendment rights. as white people have joined the protests, i would say let the
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young people and the young people of color and the young leaders of color let them lead and standby their side and behind them and support them through the next 10, 20, 40 days. >> you have a column today in the headline is "garner was just a number to them." you went on to write garner died because he was tied of being a number. he was a number because he was a street hustler in an area where police had taken to using the number of arrests to measure the performance of cops. i think a lot of people have not discussed the fact that the police officers in that particular area were given a mandate, as i understand, to go after these so-called street hustlers there. and that goes to, i think, what some people see as the policing of black communities as police state of minority communities and not being there, as the councilman said, to serve and protect. >> yeah, i think -- garner, if you watch that video before he
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put his hands up, he's campus rated. he's saying i have enough. he's saying, you know, you keep bothering me. it's got to end. and he was a man who reach ed te limit. and the officers were there because were there complaints about people selling loose cigarettes on the street. okay. in another system, they might have been able to say, listen, eric, you know, they're busting our chops. do me a favor and take a walk and go home for din per. they can't say that because they have to prove that it's not a situation where a sergeant will later go by and say okay no one is out there selling cigarettes. everything is fine. they have to report numbers. numbers get transferred to the center and that's where the commanders are held accountable. and the problem is that comstat
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had a great beginning. we should treat crime in black neighborhoods as seriously as white neighborhoods. they went after whoever did it. if you got robbed in julius street brooklyn. the idea was let's make every crime count. treat every victim as if that victim was your mother. that's what started it. then it came into the hands of people who didn't understand the driving theory and the purpose behind it. it became a numbers game. there are a lot of decent police officers found themselves in situations where discretion might have led them to give a guy -- but they needed numbers. >> when you hear them discuss policy changes and the numbers games in minority neighborhoods for minor offenses, do you feel they are in focussed in the right direction that will lead to genuine change?
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>> i think they are rationing it back. and i think one of the hopeful things that happened before the grand jury decision on monday was that the police commissioner and the mayor were able to announce despite radical reductions of stop and frisk and big reductions in marijuana crime was still down. the fact is that the new york miracle and crime reduction was not based on broken windows. it was based on lost lives. it was based upon let's do what we can do to stop the wholesale slaughter that is going on in the street s. i think there was proof on monday. you don't need to be busting kids for smoking to the reduce murders. murders are down. they're down at the historic level. >> thank you very much. appreciate it. hope to have you back soon as
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the protests will continue. up next policing the police. as cleveland reels from the shooting death of a 12-year-old boy who was holding a toy gun. the justice department is going forward with plans to remove the city's police department after an investigation founded excessive use of force. i'll talk live with a cleveland city councilman who said what is happening there is unacceptable in that city. bill cosby fights back. issuing a strong response to a woman suing him for sexual abuse. plus this. >> and lift off! the dawn of. and the first test flight of the spacecraft that could take americans to mars is set to splash down within the hour. we'll get a live report from jay barbry.
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welcome back. a city reeling from the fatal police shooting of a 12-year-old boy, the justice department has issued a disturbing report about the cleveland police department saying unreasonable use of force has been a pattern of behavior putting the community at risk. the new york times sum it is this way. excessive vors foved, quote, not just firearms but also weapons like taserers, chemical spray, and fists which were sometimes used for retaliation, excessive force against mentally ill people and tactics that escaladed nonviolent encounters. eric holder met with city leaders yesterday. >> we have agreed to a statement of principles that will lead to
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a court enforceable consent decr decree. >> and joining me now jeffrey johnson, a cleveland city councilman. thank you. >> thank you. >> obviously the case involve tamir is in the headline. if you look back at some of the other cases in recent history that were investigated it's stunning. including a case that involved the death of two civilians in 2012 police missed a backfire for a speeding car resulted in a 20 mile chase that grew to 62 patrol cars and ended with the officers firing 137 rounds at close range at the car and killing both occupants inside this vehicle. this is why they're at this point now. >> absolutely. that was the most egregious use
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of force we've had. there are so many cases that don't make the news that don't end in death. this report, which is powerful, send shock waves through chief land, it tell us about everyday citizens being forced to be victims of unnecessary force. >> and in your city, there was a tactical review committee, according to this report the findings of the department of justice but the sole purpose was to review the use of force complaints but often wait years to investigate if at all. >> yeah. >> you know this is our third time around. the justice department came to cleveland in 2002 and 2004. now they're here in 2014. the difference we're talking about a consent decree with the federal court oversight. we have eric holder stepping in here and i -- we have a lot of hope this will be different. that we will be able to fulfill what a we believe is the best future for cleveland. >> let me play the reaction from the police chief regarding this
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move by the department of justice. let's play that. >> the men and women of the division stayed committed to having a better police department. we take on this challenge and i have complete confidence that we will meet and exceed this challenge in the years to come. people of the city need to know that we will work to make this police department better. >> so obviously you have an african-american police chief, the break down of cleveland 53% black. some 1500 police officers in that 25% are black. 65% are white. it reflects the demographic of the city. is it a black and white issue or poor policies and poor training of police officers? >> i actually think it's both. the impact of policies of the actions by police obviously are hitting minority community. it's clear the training the cover up when it comes to
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investigation allowing for police to be, you know, the report to be slanted toward police. it's both. we believe in african-american community that we need more african-american police officers without a doubt. we also need to be able to go through our society through our community and expect a better treatment. we need the police to help fight the street crime. we need them to respect us. >> bifr let you go. i have to ask the developing news that the officer involved in the shooting of tamir rice had reportedly, according to the prior employer where he was an officer, display eed emotional problems, poor firearm skills at his former job with the neighboring law enforcement agency before joining the police and the department in cleveland. when you see that and hear his background what is your reaction to that? >> first of all, he should never have been fihired. if you saw the video, you saw how the driver drove the car and
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put the officer within two feet of tamir. all the things come together. tamir is a victim because our system did not work for tamir. we should never have hired him. that's just another example of what the report talks about. we need to change. we're going to act on the hope this is going to be different and we're going to continue to improve. >> thank you very much. coming up dramatic new video from alababeau dhabi. whether there was a larger plot at hand. we'll have a live report. in a minute the new vehicle that could take americans to mars -- these are live pictures of the splash down in the pacific after the first flight this morning launch off around 7:00 a.m. we'll go to a quick break.
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bla breaking news. this are live pictures. west of mexico after the first test launch this morning. the test is the first step to eventually sending man to marchs. nbc space correspondent joins us from the kennedy space center. our shot, jay is breaking up. it's freezing a little bit. it's technology. we're going to go with it. it's incredible sight. walk us through what we're seeing here. >> right no they're just a few hundred feet above the pacific ocean. 600 miles off the coast of mexico. right on target within one mile is 100 feet high right now. the shoots would cover a football field. it's been a remarkable success for america's next generation
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spacecraft. a spacecraft that will take us, eventually to marrs. there it is. it's back down. >> the splashdown has been confirmed. >> it's beautiful! >> yes. it's back. everything worked! it's unbelievable. it went up to 3600 miles. it came back through the atmosphere at 20,000 miles per hour. generated heat 4,000 degrees, twice the heat of a volcanic lava it and it survived. it came through. everything is working perfectly. as we said, it's the next generation spacecraft, tamron. it will set us on a course to take us to mars, but more importantly, it will give us the ability for the human race to survive. to get off of this planet and go to anywhere we need to go in the solar system to colonize the moon, the moon if we need to. it means that the human race can survive once it loses its home
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on planet earth. it's all beautiful. >> this is the farthest a human built spacecraft has gone in 40 years. i know, when we were at the final launch in florida, jay, you were excited about this project and what it could potentially bring to our space program. >> that's right, tamron. 42 years we have not -- we have not been able to leave earth orbit. this is the first time in american spacecraft or any spacecraft that can carry humans has left the lower orbit since apol all apollo 17. this is two and a half times larger. it can spend 21 days on its own up there. but importantly carry habitat. we can have to learn how to go there. to duoto any destination in the solar system.
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it's great. it's the next generation. it's been a wonderful success. >> our live images you're looking at the particulardown. you see the helicopter there as everything has gone well. this was a little precarious as we waalways know, yesterday, th launch was scrubbed due to a couple of problems due to technical and weather-related issues. >> that's correct. nothing wrong with the spacecraft. and everybody is amazed it come through the test on the first flight as well as it has. it ha, a beautiful success for the next generation spacecraft. it landed exactly where it was supposed to be. that means that we probably stay on track go back into space with this to the moon on a separate lunar flight could be as early as 2018, 2019, 2021. whenever it is, i want you down here with me. we're going to ride it and we're going to go up there together and come back. anyway. i'm very excited right now!
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>> yes! >> i'm very excited here. >> and what -- certainly. we're looking now at the excitement shared by those at mission control as they are celebrating giving out hugs, applause, that's something that is so important to our space program. we've talked about this. the men and women who dedicated their lives. you as a reporter and those who worked in this industry who after that final shuttle launch did wonder what would happen to our space program and if we could have the initiative, the will, and say, focus on the importance of missions like what was accomplished today, jay. >> that's right. in other words, nasa has a budget and everybody says we need more money. nasa is really spreading itself too thin. it's importing a lot of project that isn't taking us anywhere. really isn't going anywhere. nasa's job is to explore, to
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advance the envelope. you see living on a planet that is finite one day we have to get off. when you see a disease like, ebola, a disease itself could keep us from surviving on this planet. so we've got to have a way of getting off. this is opening the door in the next step where we can do this. if there should be another asteroid coming our way, it's going to hit us. this type of spacecraft can go up, deflect it, and prevent earth from being destroyed. it's a big day in science right here. >> it is a big day. you are always a great partner to share this with and educating us. by the way, before e let you go, we'll keep our audience up to date on everything that is going on at cape canaveral. guess what book i'm giving out for christmas gifts this year? >> oh, okay! did you get your e-mail? >> i did. tell everyone!
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what book is important right now as we watch the success? >> yeah. sure is, angel. i appreciate you having me on. i'm a little excited because no one really expected to go this well. it has and if we stay on this course we're there. we had senator bill nelson, our senior senator down here. he's chairman of the committee that has been put pushing this and trying to get the money into nasa. that's where we need it. exploration. not only in astronauts and human space flight but unmanned space flight. >> for those who don't know -- yeah. we'll get back to pushing envelope in science. >> yes, we will. i can talk to you all day, jay. again, congratulations on your book "neil armstrong, a life of flight." for those that don't know the title, i'm giving you the book plug. i don't care if somebody has an
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numbers released this morning. the economy added better than expected 321,000 jobs and the unemployment rate held steady at 5.8%. the president called on congress to act to spur more job growth. >> we've got an opportunity to keep up this progress if congress is willing to keep our government open, avoid self-inflicted wounds, and work together to invest in the things that support best our job growth in high paying jobs. that means exports, infrastructure, stream lining our tax code, immigration reform, giving minimum wage workers a raise. >> time now for the "newsnation" political postscript. our weekly round up of the political stories we've been following all this week. homeland security secretary jay johnson on the hot seat on capitol hill and president obama spoke out forcefully following the grand jury's decision in the eric garner case.
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>> the first two years of the obama administration, the democrats had the house, the senate, and the presidency. and they did nothing on immigration. >> temperatures need cool a little bit in the wake of my executive action. >> this is a serious breach of our constitution. >> is this amnesty? >> no. you're correct this is not a permanent solution. >> there have been commissions before, task forces, conversations and nothing happens. part of the reason this time will be different is because the president of the united states is deeply invested in making sure this time is now. >> our history, sadly, requires us to say that black lives matter. >> both of these are serious tragedies we've seen in our society. the american people deserve more answers about what really happened here. >> when anybody this country is not being treated equally under the law, that's a problem.
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and it's my job as president to help solve it. [ applause ] >> joining me live kerry dan. i want to fast forward to the sunday morning program. "meet the press" has a special hour prepared to take a look at the events involving ferguson and the latest with eric garner and what is happening here in new york city. it will evaluate the president's handling of this and promises he has made to change the course of what we're seeing here. >> that's right. i think you'll see the administration they've been speaking out with increasing forcefulness about the issue. i think you'll see that trend beginning to continue especially in the wake of the garner case. you've seen a remarkable bipartisan outcry. in contrast to ferguson, missouri where it was a partisan debate, here you're seeing unity from some of the most strided conservative voices and those on the democratic side say we need to take a look at this. it's an issue new york and d.c. issue. this is popping up in local
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communities. in big cities there are pilot programs looking how body cameras can be used. this is something that is affected each and every community in the united states. i think we're going keep hearing the administration keeping this as a hot topic. >> it will continue as we wait to see and hear what the justice department comes up with in both of these investigations out of ferguson and new york. you have a lot of individuals, obviously, who said threshold is higher for department of justic justice. >> i think another important for the president is that a big part of his legacy after his election in 2008, was it sort of got rid of the notion that the sky was no longer the limit for, especially for african-american men, youth. this is something i think cuts to the heart of something that is very important to his legacy. the idea that anything is
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possible. no matter what background one comes from. and these arguments coming out of ferguson and the garner case might sort of -- promote cynicism especially in minority communities. i think obama is motivated to ska squash that and keep up the legacy he created by his election in 2008. >> all right. we'll see what happens on the sunday morning program. thank you very much for teeing us to what we may see. have a great weekend! turning to a disturbing story overseas and new details in the brutal death of an american teacher who was killed in a mall. mother of three was stabbed to death in a bathroom monday. police arrested a woman inside a home and released dramatic video of the arrest yesterday. investigators say she confessed to the murder but it could be awhile before she is charged. she's also accused of leaving a homemade bomb in front of an american doctor's apartment in
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abu dhabi. the american embassy has a warning for americans in that country. kooer simmons is joining us. it's concern it was part of a larger plot here. >> it is a concern, tamron. there was talk and monitoring over the internet suggesting there was a call to target teachers and, of course, she was an american teacher. you can imagine the shock that the 40,000 u.s. citizens who live here in the uae have in seeing what happened to her, an innocent woman in a mall just going into a bathroom and being stabbed to death. at the same time, i think there is a little bit extra confidence gained by the way that the police reacted so quickly. it they do turn out to have arrested the right person. the right suspect. that's happened pretty fast. and the police say they were able to track down this woman who was seen on video going into
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the mall completely cloaked in a black gown. then when another target was aimed at that american egyptian doctor the police appeared to piece things together. they think they have a right person. the u.s. embassy here is warning americans to be careful, to keep a low profile. that is a concern across the region, of course, after we've seen the isis hostage taking, also, in yemen a hostage being held al qaeda and the arabian peninsula say it is holding a hostage there. so there is this sense that increasingly innocent americans and westerners are a target, tamron. >> thank you very much. up next the actor mark wall
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berg wants massachusetts officials to wipe out his assault convictions from more than 20 years ago. it's one of the things we thought you should know. meet the owner of the apple store for weed. where ipads and budtenders help smokers find the best marijuana. this is today's born in the usa. be sure like the "newsnation" on facebook where facebook.com/tamronhall. my business only works if everything works together. there are a million moving parts to keep track of. and almost as many expenses. receiptmatch with quickbooks lets you sync your business expenses. just snap your business card receipts with your smartphone, tag, and transfer to intuit quickbooks. only with business cards from american express open. i'm john kaplan, and i'm a member of a synchronized world. this is what membership is. this is what membership does.
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asking the state of massachusetts for a pardon for assaults he committed as teen in the '80s. he was 16 when he assaulted two men in boston hitting one man in the head with a wooded stick while trying to steal two cases of alcohol and punching another man in the face as he tried to flee he was convicted and served 45 days in jail. and asking for pardon, he said he dedicated his adult life to becoming a better person and clemency would serve as a inspire ration. is highlighting american business success stories. pot shops have been open for almost the entire year in colorado, which i'm sure you know. you could say sales have been sky high. someone wrote that. it in september they brought in $29 million. one woman is hoping to cash in on weed success in the state. her name is jamie.
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he tapped out her 401(k) and savings to open her shop, which she refers to at apple store of weed. lines of tourists go out the door every day tablet, computers, tables describe the type of marijuana and budtenders walk through the store to answer questions. jamie is one of the people profiled in the new series pot barons of colorado. i think it's time for the change. i think this would be what alcohol is. regular lated, you know, people over 21 using it. and it won't be a second thought instead of bringing a bottle wine you bring of gram a weed. >> the owner joins us from denver. good to see you. >> good morning. talk to me about the day you decided to cash out the savings, draft sboop the 401(k) which goes against every adviser to make the dream come true.
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>> you know it was a tough decision to decide to do this, when i started doing a little bit much research, i noticed, you know, there's a lot of big means jumping ship from banking industry, pharmaceutical industries, ceos, if they're getting in at the ground level i figured they must know something. i decided it was worth the risk. >> wouldn't you imagine there's a lot of people say it's legal. let me jump in. the market is there. the people are there. i'm bound to be successful. that's not always the case. while some may be successful not to the level of your business. what do cow do different in your model that is taking you to a higher level of success. >> of course, the higher level. when i decided to get in the industry, i had never been in a dispensary before. i don't personally use marijuana. that doesn't mean i don't believe in the benefit. we went through a lot of
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dispensa dispensary. i wrote down everything i didn't like. what made me uncomfortable. that's where the model came from. i changed it so the average person would feel comfortable. that's interesting as you pointed out you don't smoke marijuana. i guess don't get high on your own supply theory. wi with that person serving it said i don't like coffee. that makes it tough. that's why you have budtenders. someone has to be testing the product, i would hope. >> absolutely. that's why i hire the best in the industry. they live, eat, sleep, and breathe literally the industry. they love it. they're passionate about it. they study it. they, you know, growers, past users. that is important to have a knowledgeable staff behind me. you don't have to be an expert in everything. i appreciate they're the expert
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in the area i can't cover. >> what set lesson learned here about taking the risk and looking at new frontiers? >> you know, this was a big risk and, you know, big risk big reward. to be at the front of the movement is really exciting. so if you really are passionate about something. no matter what other people say. you can make a golf it. it's the american dream. if you dream it and work hard for it. the reward will come for you. >> i love it. congratulations on your success. >> i know a lot of other women in the area followed in your footsteps and some of the most successful dispensaries are owned by women in that area. congratulations. i guess if i get to colorado i'll stop by. >> absolutely. please do. >> i will. thank you. you can watch an all new episode of pot barons of colorado this sunday only on msnbc. that does it for this edition of
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>> watch what's going on in america right now. >> fighting back. bill cosby's lawyers take aim at the comedian's latest accuser. >> two, one. and lift off. >> a needed success for nasa. what this morning's launch could mean for the future of space travel. >> good day, i'm luke russert for andrea mitchell on a day of big economic news. they posted a strong november in number. 321,000 total jobs gained. the most in more than two years. we are on pace with the strongest year of job growth in more than a decade. take a look at this. a record breaking day at the dow where it's
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