acknowledge we have a problem. >> hands up, don't shoot. hands up, don't shoot. >> a new case in phoenix, arizona. >> after the death of another unarmed black man shot by a police officer. >> these cases are happening every day across american and unarmed people are being killed by police officers. >> we have to deal with the culture of policing. >> a guy who commits a low level crime should not end up dead. >> there is not one reform but a series of reforms. >> we're seeing the demonstrations around the country because these two officers did not go to trial. >> no one is being shown this is bad behavior. >> we need the police to fight the street crime but we need them to respect us. the outrage over america's law enforcement practices continues. right now protests are underway in chicago as crowds demonstrate their frustration in the wake of

the grand jury december k-- decision not to indict the police officer who was with eric garner. chants of i can't breathe and no justice, no peace were punctuated by moments of silence. >> i'm here because i'm alive. i'm brie breathing, eric garner is not. i'm here because i can be here. and oxygen is a human right. >> i think people feel jolted in terms of how they feel about america's criminal justice system but it's i do think that people feel hopeful. >> rallies occurred in san francisco, philadelphia, chicago, and washington, d.c. after a ten-day period with no indictments in the garner or michael brown cases a federal investigation into the cleveland police department, some have begun to make demands.

in new york protesters have issued a list of demands beginning with the firing of officer pantaleo. as members of new york's congressional delegation wrote, mr. garner's death has taken place in the context of a broken windows polices strategy that appears to target communities of color for minor violations and low-level offenses. but for some, including bratton hymn, denial is the order of the day. >> what does a plan man in new york city have to fear from the nypd. >> nothing to fear from us. >> joining us is bill keller. trymaine lee and director at the university of chicago institute of politics, david axel rod.

>> when you hear what do you have to sphere from the nypd and he is saying nothing at all. this should be a moment where sides should be coming together but the rift between the community and the police is maybe growing. >> yeah, it's a trouble thing because we need policing. we need a police presence. we need safe communities. on the other hand, this is an old story. bill and i were talking earlier -- i started as a young reporter in the '70s in chicago, these stories were evident then. now we have social media and can videotape these things and they are taking on new meaning but we have to find some middle ground. and for the commissioner to say, gee, i don't know when the world has seen what a black man has to fear is unfortunate. i don't think that's going to advance the cause here. >> bill, you know, the marshall

project you take on some of these things. the list of prescriptions is unknowable at this point. it started with broken windows, this idea that broken windows lead to bigger, larger crimes. that has not been proven out. i wonder if this is a moment where we can revisit the efficacy of that. >> i would like to say this is a moment we revisit a lot of things. it's not just any of the episodes but the whole thing coming together enhanced by social media and descriptioned worldwide but it talked to cory johnson and he said any black man growing up in america is unsurprised by the events but what struck him were the number of whites getting a wakeup call from the fact these were

happening so close together, so visibly and the -- and there are a lot of white faces in the crowds protesting which is an opportunity for change if we don't blow it. >> to that end tremaine you were covering ferguson and in staten island. tell us about the difference in the crowds. it feels like new york is a more diverse coalition of folks in terms of ethnicity and age and class. >> when you spend time at the protests in new york city it is different than ferguson which was starkly black. but what is strike but not surprising is when you have conversations with people in ferguson and on staten island and they talk about feeling disconnected to the system and only fueling the criminal justice system from one aspect and there is a sense of denial that these day-to-day

indignities that end up in fatalities with eric garner, thab are being ignored or brushed under the rug somehow. so if they feel there are two systems one for black and poor america and one for the rest of america. they really mean it and the rest of america is starting to understand there is something to this. but it's not a new story. >> if there is some good to come of this, the national conversation has turned a little bit more to sentencing reform. there is more of an awareness. at least it seems in congress where there is not a lot of awareness of much of anything. but cory booker and rand paul have talked about sentencing reform. black men are targeted or people of other colors are not in this society, is this an inflection point? >> i think it is. i think we were moving to that anyway. there is a coalition between

libertarian republicans. and we have the statistics are overwhelming when you look at the number of people in our prisons, the demographics of that population and so on. and the kinds of things people are going to prison for, we have to do something about this. but you know, my concern is that we -- you know, there's no doubt, when you see that videotape, you say, how can he -- how can this officer not be held accountable for taking a life in the way he did and that's a big concern. but if that's where it ends and we don't deal with the larger problems that's not enough. >> a huge part of this is leadership. in some ways people are saying there was skepticism when bill de blasio took over as mayor in new york city but it's in this moment he is the mayor that this city has needed. but at the same time i would love to get your thoughts on bill bratton who was the chief

of police under rudy giuliani which was not a good time with questionable race relations. do you think he is the right commissioner -- he will be a better commissioner with bill de blasio than with rudy giuliani? >> i don't know what their relationship is actually like. but i think both of them operate -- they have to do a delicate balance. i mean, they are in charge of the police force. the police force is really important. if they lose the confident of the police that is not good for anybody. at the same time they have to bring about real reforms and not just cosmetic reforms. bratton has been on -- a different kind of police chief in different cities at different times. he is adaptable. and de blasio has demonstrated this week that he's going to take a pretty strong position on, this with the money for --

diverting mentally ill people from the prison tract into treatment and his emphasis on retraining of the police. sounds like serious retraining. and bratton is going along with him at least on those issues. we'll see if the broken windows policy survives or not. >> there are years of mistrust in terms of the police. but we have a mayor with a black son whose son was a prominent part of his campaign, who talked about racial profiling and stop and frisk. these are conversations that are happening in grayscie mansion. i wonder if you think there is real change possible. >> i stood with garner's mother i asked her these questions. he has this bi-racial son and had that conversation with the fear that this young man never

comes home but he's basically cosining for bratton. while de blasio was wasting -- >> do people talk about that. the mention of bratton undermines the confidence -- >> it reminds them of the bad old days of the mid 1990s. the fact you are signing for the person who came up with broken windows, it's not lost on them. they appreciate this white man with a unique insight with the black family. understands the fear of the boy going out but not coming home. but your right hand -- >> the guy who is developing policies that would make you scared -- >> that a guy selling cigarettes could end up in a choke hold. >> the mayor has the responsibility to minister to the community in this very big problem -- losing the police

department before he ever got started. and i think that still is the case. so the question is, as bill suggests, does bratton go with de blasio or de blasio go with bratton. >> one thing you have to keep in mind is three or four of the candidates for mayor named bill bratton as the guy they wanted to bring in. he was not hard score on stop and frisk. >> it's important to keep in mind that joe loda was saying that this city would devolve into chaos and anarchy. it hasn't and bill de blasio has been the right fit for this moment. it is a developing situation. thank you for your reporting and insight. stay with me, guys.

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it led to the suspension of fraternity activities to a full investigation and it spurred national outcry about rape on college campuses. the but the account of a gang rape is being thrown into question. the magazine's decision not to report the stories those accused of rape led to accusations. and rolling stone apologized to its readers. there now appear to be discrepancies in the account and we have come to the conclusion that our trust in the alleged victim was misplaced. we apologize to anyone affected by the story. this came before the washington post published an article casting more doubt on the piece and the alleged victim's

account. friends and officials dispute the basic facts of the story. back with me is bill keller and anna marie cox. journalistically speaking would the way this story was put together have past muster in your newsroom? >> i would say no. but i have to acknowledge right up front that i was editor back in 2006 during the duke lacrosse team -- when three members of the duke lacrosse team were falsely accused of rape. and i have to say most newspapers including ours did not distinguish ourselves in that. we did more give reporting than the "rolling stone" have done in this case. that said, the idea that the purported victim or actual victim, we don't know, was allowed to limit the scope of the reporting seems to me to be

an egregious breech. >> the victim, apparently said she did not want the rolling stone reporters to reach out to the accused to get their thoughts. and you're a reporter. this is a news story and a story about sexual violence in this country. starting with journalistic, is there a time not to talk to the accused? >> i don't think so. i actually don't think that is journalistic guidelines. there are guidelines on how to report on cases like these. you don't limit your reporting based on what the survivor says. that is a problem here. we're going to get to this but the idea because this story has not panned out it will affect the way that people view future allegations at that university

or underreporting of sexual assault is tragic. and the reporting on this story could have stood on its own without jackie's story. there would have been a story without that story being included. that story is sensational and gruesome and you and i both know, most sexual assaults are not that sensational. they happen every day. and the reason they don't get reported is they are not sensational. and they don't live up to the idea of what people think rape should like. >> what is ironic in the statement from "rolling stone" the onus is -- if the story is fabricated the alleged victim should bear the burden on. that but the "rolling stone" never says we made a mistake. the blame is cast on the victim and we misplaced our trust. we breached a tacit agreement,

perhaps. >> right. i've often discovered that companies in the communications business are not good at communicating about themselves but it's that was clearly a blunder to sort of throw the source under the bus. and kind of shift the blame to her. in a case like this you come up front. you assign reporters to report how your bad story got written in the first place and you let it all hang out. but the last thing you do is blame a bad source. >> let me ask you, to anne marie's point, what this does to the conversation. you have been talk about the underreporting of rape. we are at a moment where there is a momentum, a moment where there is momentum. imagine that. but there is conversation about sexual assaults and victims and how much of the burden of proof is on their shoulders alone. how much does this set the conversation back? >> the real worry is that it

would contribute to the myth that there is mass false reporting of rape. dana goldstein who writes for the marshall project i was talking to. and she said the most credible study of this that has been done estimates that between 2% and 10% of rape allegations are false. and even some of those are borderline. so the idea that women make this stuff up is a pernicious myth. >> and pernicious is the right word, right? we talk about the notion of fraud and -- is incredibly insidious on every level of national discourse whether we're talking about the irs or rape. this idea of one person said something that wasn't true, therefore the whole sort of system, the whole dialogue around is it a false one. >> what i want to say is that

anyone who thinks that women are out there reporting, doing false reports of rape need to ask the women closest to them about this if a woman would do that or if she thinks another woman could do that. some men in my life who i was talking about this story and the cosby story and their first reaction is well, they might. and it's stunning to me. it's stunning that anyone would think that that is the first instinct that that woman has that any woman would go for and do this to get attention or to get money. to talk about one sexual assault is still such a deeply shaming thing and a place of such vulnerability. what i really hope is that the attention does not prevent other women from coming forward. >> that is a huge -- that is the huge worry, right? there are other victims in that story whose accounts presumably

were true. this should not delegitimatize those. >> one category of men who are particularly inclined to believe that a lot of accusations about rape are false are police. we recently published research on that subject. so you know, the -- >> the implication -- >> the worst consequence of a journalistic blunder like this would be if it made women fall back and retreat from their willingness to report. >> and to make law enforcement more skeptical of those who report. it is not a good story on many levels. thanks for joining me. and thanks for your time. >> thank you. one small step into sending humans into deep space is next.

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running for president. and i'll make up my mind in short order. >> i've made no mystery about the fact that i'm thinking about running for president. >> i don't have to be the guy. i never thought like. that. >> i haven't decided but that's part of the decision making process. >> with the notable exception of rob portmen, everyone is thinking about it, it being a possible run at the 2016 presidential nomination. there have been breathless reports that mitt romney is indeed running again, reports that were just as quickly shot down. today's news is that jeb bush is calling top operatives in nebz but his strategy is questionable. lose the primary to win the general? >> kind of know how a republican can win, whether it's me or somebody else and it has to be much more uplifting, much more positive, much more willing to, you know, to be practical now in

washington world lose the primary to win the general without violating your principles. >> meanwhile the man campaigning for the highest office, ted cruz continues his march to the farthest right corner of the galaxy. >> amnesty is fundamentally unfair. the answer is not a monarch from 1600 pennsylvania avenue refusing to follow the law. >> and in the saga of trenton we have news that chris christie appears to be in the clear on bridgegate. that comes as the governor is in canada beefing up his foreign policy chops and rejecting suggestions he announce his candidacy among our neighbors to the north. >> he is giving me advice to announce my candidacy in a foreign country.

as donald trump would say, you're fired. >> david let's start with the news of the day. chris christie, the headline is the interim report found no conclusi conclusive evidence that christie 23450u of the bridge lane closures. there is an s.e.c. investigation. how viable is a christie candidacy? >> my concern if i were him or a supporter of his would be less those things, although they obviously have potentially deadly implications if they were to come to pass that he was implicated, i think the big problem is christie himself and his approach to politics. i mean, you know, people in jersey may think it's charming to be told to sit down and shut down but not in berlin, new

hampshire, not in most places in this country. and i've been involved in presidential races and i know that every single day there are a thousand provocations. and part of the discipline of running for president is not flying off the handle at every one of them. people don't want a president who has the power of the president of the united states who can't control his temper. >> let me follow on this. you are a strategist par excellence. and can you make a candidate -- this is chris christie's dna. >> i said a long time ago, presidential races are like mris for the soul. so that's my point. that's his biggest problem. that's a bigger problem than the investigations. i think the investigations will likely end up where there is -- from may be some smoke but no fire. he can survive that. the question is if he can

survive his temperament. >> in terms of rand paul it was an interesting week. he has been showered with accolades for his response in the wake of ferguson and his work on criminal sentencing reform. but when it came to eric garner and his response. let's play what he said this week. >> it's hard not to watch that video and not be horrified by it. but i think there's something bigger than the individual circumstances. obviously those are important. but i think it's also important to know that some politician put a tax of $5.85 on a pack of cigarettes. >> i think there's something bigger and that thing is bigger is a cigarette tax. >> it's funny. when i heard he was going to be on "hardball" right after this decision came down i thought he would make news and it would be

a big moment for him to talk about race, some of the things he talked about. he has talked about ferguson through the rubric of race and now he seems to be dialing that back and talking about a cigarette tax. this is something that no one had thought about. i think rand paul's problem is he sounds like rand paul and rick santorum. >> and an angry bodega owner. >> he hasn't figured out what direction he's going in. it's this combination of all of these different sort of positions. it's sort of made him the most interesting man in politics and some ways the most confusing man in politics too. we'll have to wait and see. he's trying to curry favor with the main stream but keep his libertarian street cred as well. >> can you be interesting in politics any more? can you be unpredictable at this

point? >> i think it's a good question. the problem for paul is not that he's interesting but he is still searching. i think he is still searching for exactly who he is and what he wants to be. and i think it's very hard to run for president successfully like that. but i do think honestly he will go to that -- he's one of the guys that will go to the convention with a block of delegates. he does inspire some people. >> loyalty, too. >> he's going to build on that group his father had and he's going to build it out and be a force at that republican convention. >> speaking of forces and loyalty and clans, jeb bush. jeb bush is saying that he is going to -- he has put the feelers out in new hampshire and how much more inconclusive can this candidacy be? where does the wind blow? >> it has been blowing since

2006. he has been essentially thinking about running for president. he always sounds like a man who is yet to make up his mind and never a man who sounds like he made up his mind. he talks about this idea that he feels he would have to run joyously and he sounds down beat about that prospect. he has said it has been his family. i think it is much more about his own temperament and the glad handing you have to do to run for president. it's not who jeb bush is. he's much more of a wonk. and so that, i think, is going to get in his way, not to mention where the party is now and it's not where jeb bush is. it's moved beyond him and people are talking much more about -- buoyantly about chris christie. >> whoever runs, there has to be a democratic opponent. in all likelihood that will be hillary clinton. charlie cook posited she lost

her fastball. did she ever have a fastball? >> she threw hard but the question is whether the ball went over the plate. that's still the question. can she get the ball over the plate and hit the issues and compel people to think she is running for a purpose and not just a promotion. that was the problem in 2007. that's the one she has to solve in 2016. she would make a mistake relying on the disarray of the republican party and lack of competition in the democratic party. this is not a tactical exercise. at the end of the day you have to stand for something and fight for something. >> you have to want to be there for a reason. >> i think so. >> it is great to close out the week with you, david. thanks for you time. >> thank you. >> coming up, some good news about america. because, man, do we need some. that's next. alright, so this tyl arthritis lasts 8 hours,

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about the things that divide us. but food is one of the amazing things that bring us together and is a reflection of how diverse our country is. you went to a bunch of homes. how did you pick who you were going to profile? >> it's easy in new york city. this was a terrible week but this is a great city. but the truth of the matter is,

90% of thel0o world's populatio lives in the northern hemisphere and the northern hemisphere in the month of december is dark. we are celebrating light and bringing light and happiness into the world through the food we eat. >> it's optimistic. i thought of "game of thrones" and this sense of doom and you celebrate with togetherness. >> that's right. >> you talk about the families in the piece. the mexican celebration which sounds delicious. and st. lucia's day. u obsessed with that because of the crown of candles. >> unbelievable, right? >> we we shouldn't talk much about what the crown of candles represents because it is a burning virgin. >> maybe leave that out. >> we'll leave that out for a

second. but the saffron buns the st. lucia buns that is meant to evoke sunlight on the darkest night of the world. !kú2 think it would be cool for daughter to walk in with a crown of candles to give me coffee and a bright yellow bun. >> i was reminded of thanksgiving when the upshot you profiled the 50 united states of thanksgiving and the traditions in different parts of the wasn't and how that reflected who we are as a people. >> it was super exciting. wherever you were you would have someone from i am from state x and never heard of dish y. but people were embracing these recipes that may have been new or familiar to them and there is no way to look at that list the

upshot list or the nypcook.com list and not come away without thinking we are a more diverse country than we thought. >> you know, food is one of the places where it feels like we acknowledge our difficult -- especially in southern states where we acknowledge our difficult and troubled history on certain issues. and we embrace it and we push it forward. do you know -- >> i think that's absolutely right. and i think the dinner table is the place to do that. that bringing families together, bringing friends together and the presence of food and the presence of drink and con viv yality can move us forward as families and as a nation. >> i would be remiss as a nation. we focused on hunger and went to eastern kentucky and one of every two families in the country is on food stamps. and the biggest food story there is is the one we tell the least.

we talk so much about food. food is very popular right now as an -- as something people buy into and watch and read about and are lusty about. but hunger is something that exists outside of that conversation. >> that is correct. >> i wonder your thoughts about how but bridge those sides? >> by talking about real food. the problem in america is that we are divided between $9 lattes and $1 hamburgers. that is a problem. a $1 hamburger leads to obesity. a $9 latte leads to an absence of caring about the rest of the world. i think we need to meet in the middle somehow and stress the importance of real food on family tables as much as possible. when i say family tables i mean school lunchroom tables. i mean, on -- in church dinner tables, everywhere. >> the new york times, it is

always a pleasure and joy to have you with us. >> it's great to be here. >> it's great to read everything you write about. thank you for your time, sam. this week as part of our series the invisible us we told you about an organization that runs a food backpack program that sends low income children home with seven meals and snacks to eat over the weekend. they started that program because kids were showing up to school on monday morning without having eaten since their school lunch on friday. you showed up in a really big ut way. so far, nearly $8,000 has been raised for the food backpack program. that will fill 1,500 backpacks for the weekend. to find out more about the program, go to www.msnbc.com/backpack. coming up, the largest homeless camp in the country is being dismantled and forcing

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to some of the people of san jose, california, the jungle is not a tropical mostforest. is it a 68 acre camp where about 5,800 people live until it was destroyed. at 8:00 in the morning yesterday, police and city crews started to destroy makeshift tents and throwing away belongings. it's part of an effort to find permanent residence for the homeless. but because of the high real estate price, a third of the residents were left instead with nowhere to go. since they were kicked out of the jungle some of the residents have set up camp in a wal-mart parking lot. miles away, headquarters of the largest and most profitable tech giants, apple, google, yahoo and

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