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of bloomberg politics, john heilemann, msnbc contributor and associate professor, dorian warren. >> mika keeps ignoring me. >> i'm trying to say hello to everybody. >> how was your weekend? >> it was good. i should not be tired this morning. >> good. >> i did "way too early" that's early. >> good weekend. george graduated karate belts. big weekend. >> cute. >> does he do -- >> he's got -- he's five. it's early days of his karate career. it's not bruce lee yet. >> black belt. >> not yet. it's good. it's good. >> you know, we're exposing our kids to the greatest movies of all-time. "star wars" and stuff.

last night jack and kate sat down and jack requests -- >> "star wars." >> he's seen that 87 times. one of the greatest summer movies of all time. "raiders of the lost ark." >> is that a good one? >> oh my god. why do you say things like this? you do that just to tear a hole in my soul. huge news today. friday it came in. i'm looking forward to us leading news with it. i'm sure the networks will run it for weeks to come. chris christie cleared by the new jersey state legislature. i'm looking -- i actually turned on tv because i was expecting to see people that had been talking about it for eight months straight to say, guess what,

nothing came of it. they actually found news to make up. chris christie may be responsible for a future meteor shower or something. >> just let it play out. >> it's played out. john heilemann, where does chris christie go to get his reputation back? i know he's working on his waistline, where does he go to get his reputation back? >> i think he's doing just great. >> should there be eight weeks of news coverage now? >> i'm not news director for institutions to which you're referring to. >> to which do you think i'm referring to? >> you made a blanket comment. i'm a news director at none of those places. >> i don't know why you would say i was talking about one specific network. it makes me sad -- >> a lot of coverage on a lot of networks a year ago. a lot of networks. it was blanket coverage on this topic. >> i'm looking forward to eight weeks of nonstop breathless

there was nothing to it. >> we'll get to headlines this morning. are you ready? >> i'm ready. >> there's backlash over the failed raid to save the life of luke somers. as nbc's kristen welker reports, things took a turn for the worst. >> reporter: senior administration officials say friday night navy s.e.a.l.s landed about two miles from their target secretly approaching a cluster of buildings but their cover was blown sparking a firefight and giving captors time to shoot somers. it's believed a noise, possibly a dog, alerted the hostage takers. >> reports indicate both captives eventually died of gun shots from al qaeda guards. it was the second attempt to

rescue somers and family members are angry because if there had not been a rescue attempt, he could still be alive. there were threats on his life before but they were never carried out. a south african charity group unknown to u.s. officials arranged a $200,000 ransom for the release and they thought the teacher was set to be released. two hours later she got a very different piece of news. her husband was dead. there are disputes over whether civilians were killed. some have the figure as high as eight. u.s. officials are unaware of civilian deaths. there's been bipartisan support for the effort in washington. "rolling stone" is dealing with blow back from all sides as the magazine changes its story following its sweeping expose at

an alleged gang rape. on friday the magazine issued a note to readers casting doubt on its own story and acknowledging that it never reached out to the men accused of the crime out of deference to the victim. "rolling stone" said "we should not have made this agreement with jackie and we should have worked harder to convince her that the truth would have been better served by getting the other side of the story." the note also said "our trust in her was misplaced." that line also sparked backlash where it sounded like the woman was being blamed so "rolling stone" removed the line about misplaced trust and writing "these mistakes are on rolling stone and not on jackie. we apologize to anyone who was affecteded ed bed by the story continue to investigate the events of that evening." the magazine acknowledged discrepancies in the woman's story first reported by "the

washington post." a student who came who jackie's aid that night said she didn't appear physically injured and an alleged attacker that jackie identified to friends was actually the name of a student who belongs to a different fraternity. "rolling stone's" reporting had far reaching consequences and prompted uva to suspend all fraternity activities and brought renewed attention to the federal investigation involving uva and other dozens of universities mishandling sexual assault cases and local police are also investigating. national greek letter organizations on the campus are calling on the university to allow their activities to resume. >> i think it's an absolute mess. willie, a woman who was quoted in the article as an unnamed source said she felt betrayed because the story was just a lie. that came out. and all this came about because

"the washington post" asked basic journalist questions, hey, did you talk to the people that were accused instead of just talking to the accuser? remarkably enough, they had not. >> that initial statement from "rolling stone" is troubling on a couple fronts. number one, we had misplaced trust in her. sort of putting the blame on who they call jackie. also, implying that they just trusted their one source rather than reporting the story out which i'm sure you've written for "rolling stone." i assume they have rigorous fact checking. that's very troubling in a case that brought this much attention and involved this many people's lives to not do the basic thing of getting both sides of the story. >> i guess you ask how does this happen? i supposed people -- the supposed attackers had a presumption of guilt by the people that were running that magazine like the duke lacrosse players had a presumption of

guilt. they were just suspects from the get-go. john, how do you -- i can't imagine that ever happening at new york magazine. i can't imagine that happening at any magazines that you've written for before where they let you tell a story and they don't ask about the other side. >> every magazine makes mistakes. there's not a place you can point to. "the new york times," "the washington post," every magazine in the country has had some embarrassment. >> "rolling stone" had an incredible run over the last couple years. >> mistakes get made. there's no institution you can hold up to say they've been perfect. in this case, there are really basic things. the reporter apparently made this agreement with the source to not go and talk to the accused, which i think was a mistake. but beyond that, there are simple things that have now come out like the fact that when the fraternity did its own investigation, they went back and looked at the calendar and it turned out on the night she

claimed that this took place, there was a social event happening and there was no social event happening at that fraternity. the woman making the accusations said she met the man she went on the date with who led the alleged attack, she met him at the university aquatic center where they worked as lifeguards. there was no investigation beyond the controversial things. this is on "rolling stone" and it's also on this reporter who apparently in addition to making an agreement with this source that turned out to be problematic didn't do basic spade work to look into some of the basic corroborating details you would need to nail down before you made such an accusation. >> and i think it's a good -- i think it's a good reminder to reporters that in the season of bill cosby and college stories

who are quick to shoot first and ask questions later because there is always an overwhelming burden of presumption of guilt in these stories that these reporters and the editors and the newsrooms go into before they write the story to actually check both sides. >> some say that something happened to her. i didn't we can't let the pendulum swing and overcorrect the other way until we bear this out a bit. you mention bill cosby. that's a great point to make. all of us covering the story no matter what our exact roles are, we have to remember there's no evidence at that point and technically he could be completely innocent. and it seems like for him he's been completely tried and convicted of what he's accused of. >> we're starting to hear stories coming out and we're not here exonerating bill cosby, nothing to do with the uva story, we heard on friday night cosby's lawyers talking about the latest accuser tried to sell her story six months ago.

couldn't sell the story. so then she started to press charges. maybe cosby is guilty. maybe he's not guilty. as i've been saying from the very beginning why he was uncomfortable about this, it's hard enough to prove a negative in 2014. go back and try to make a famous, rich, hollywood guy that's been around forever to prove a negative 40 years later. that is a hell of a high burden. and, again, i'm not exonerating bill cosby. the guy's life has gone up in flames and there's still not a charge. there's still not a single piece of physical evidence. and so again i'm not just talking about cosby. i'm talking about all these stories. >> it's a great example. >> you said something about the pendulum swinging. if you look back ten years ago at the coverage some of the

initial coverage when these claims first came up with bill cosby. most of the journalism around those claims dismissed all of the women. so actually a lot has happened in the last ten years in terms of how journalists report these kind of stories. the danger with uva and bill cosby case is women are reluctant to come forward when there are actual cases of sexual assault and we can't let the pendulum swing back in that direction. the court system should handle these types of case. >> why would that happen? >> if women are afraid to come forward with these complaints because journalists in this case "rolling stone" doesn't do their job and therefore there's this huge backlash and silencing effect and i think that's also problematic. >> sure if there would be. we just need evidence. >> you have to let the process -- >> everybody should be --

>> people should be able to come forward and let the criminal justice system pursue those cases, collects evidence and then decide. a journalist article making that deciding for us before all of the process has taken place is problematic. my only issue is if women do not come forward when they are victims and survivors of sexual assault, that's a big problem. >> or when they do come forward, you have seen victims rights groups in the wake of this "rolling stone" argument saying we've been set back 10 years, 20 years because it feeds the perception that women make these things up. >> that's not true. the question is who is responsible for that? the woman who made up the story and "rolling stone" who ran with it. >> but my point is in this case it may have been made up. we don't know. something may have happened to this woman. in other cases where it's not made up and there are real things, there are people in society who say women make these things up all the time. >> did she not make the up the

story. >> we don't know all of the facts. we know the facts -- what's reported in the story we know is not true. >> what she told the "rolling stone" reporter is not true. i mean, even her friends that were saying this story was not true said that things did happen that night. specifically did happen. this story was not true. >> the way she described it was not true. >> seems to not be true. look, there's a huge problem with campus rape in this country. you can't -- nothing about how this story proceeds will reduce that truth. it is the case i just think for all journalists institutions if you're going to throw around rape institutions, the standards of rigor have to be double. this is a very serious charge to make even against unnamed accusers. >> it is a very serious charge to make.

it's a he said/she said charge and it's just -- it's not just about women coming forward. they need to come forward right away. that helps so much if they can come forward right away. coming forward years later, you are going to have trouble. it's going to be more difficult. >> there has been a problem. there was a series of stories about rape kids turned in and not used for five, six, seven years. women have to come forward and be encouraged to come forward and authorities have to be a lot more aggressive with the physical evidence and not with hearsay. with physical evidence. with their investigation. >> i would like to talk about this more. six prisoners held at guantanamo bay for over a decade arrived in south america as refugees. they've been cleared for release since 2009 but united states struggled to find a country to accept them. all six detainees were in prison

for suspected ties to al qaeda but none were formally charged. it's the latest effort in a push from president obama to close the prison at guantanamo bay and largest single transfer of detainees since 2009. the inmate population there is now down to 136. that's the lowest number since the camp opened in 2002. >> we also have a story -- the cia story. do we have that story. read that as well. >> the torture report that dianne feinstein wants this released as soon as possible. it's a battle brewing on capitol hill on a report expected to condemn the cia for using torture after the 9/11 attacks. the report was expected to be released this week and dianne feinstein is fighting to make that possible but the secretary of state john kerry called senator feinstein to say the

report will put americans in danger and asked her to delay its release. those concerns were echoed by mike rogers, outgoing share of the intelligence committee. >> i think this is a terrible idea. our foreign partners are telling us this will cause violence and deaths. our foreign leaders approached the government and said do you this, this will cause violence and deaths. our own intelligence community has assessed this will call violence and deaths. think of the cartoons in denmark and how many people died as a result. think of building of korans and how many people died as a result. they will use this to incite violence. >> fortunatemer cia director is denying the agency lied about its enhanced interrogation techniques. >> does john kerry have a fear that's well-founded? will the release of this report cause violence across the middle east? >> it's tough to answer that. the short answer would be that we know that the cia over the

past several years or at least perception in middle east in some areas where u.s. officials may be concerned, this will not come as a surprise to anyone in pa that is right of the world that the cia may have been engaging in torture throughout the post- 9/11 era so that it's going to be ground breaking to the point that it will anger people, from my perspective will not rattle a lot of people. >> what's your response to the news out of gitmo that some prisoners are being released. what impact does that have? >> it's important to have the u.s. try to close guantanamo but this is coming in a perspective that's going to anger people. that's going to upset people more than the cia torture case. the reason being is these individuals were not officially charged. they are being freed, if you will, but can't go back to their home countries because their countries would ultimately try to either persecute them or

their lives would be in danger and that's why the u.s. wants to try to transfer them to a third country. i think the perspective again is that people who look at guantanamo, the fact that president obama on day one of his administration tried to close it down, still has not been able to. that angers people a lot more in the middle east and certainly would make enemies of the united states continue to use guantanamo to incite people more so than what we might hear from this torture report. >> the torture report, what's the positive? what would be the reason to release it? >> i would say that the u.s. coming forward admitting that there have been mistakes. tactics and practices were in fact -- if they do use the term illegal, if not certainly against international interventions like torture. it's important for the u.s. to turn the page on that post- 9/11 era on how the u.s. broke its own morales and values as it tried to crackdown on these terrorists.

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time to look at the morning papers. we'll start with "the los angeles times." a massive typhoon is working its way across the philippines headed toward the country's capital. more than a million people are on the move seeking shelter in schools, churches anywhere they can. floodwaters continue to rise. more than 30 million people have been affected by the storm so far. >> "the washington post" veterans of the attack on pearl harbor gathered in hawaii on sunday to mark the 73rd

anniversary. about 100 pearl harbor and world war ii survivors attended the ceremony overlooking the memorial. it featured a japanese prayer for peace, a jet flyover and a moment of silence at 7:55 a.m. that's the exact moment the surprise bombing began. >> 73 years ago. my goodness. >> the guardian, the mayor of paris called for a ban on diesel cars in the french capital by the year 2020. the mayor is trying to close off some areas of the city to cars part of a drastic effort to fight pollution. the city plans to eliminate tourist buses and ban trucks from cutting through paris and introduce electric vans. that's going to go over well. not. two members of the royal family are waking up in new york city this morning for their first visit here. prince william, duchess of c cambridge are in town.

the empire state building was lit up in union jack colors in the couple's honor. >> they are big "morning joe" fans. they are excited to be here. they watch it every day. >> we're booked. we couldn't get them on. >> i know that because when i play "call of duty" on xbox, william speaks to me. >> is he a big trash talker? >> he is. he can't pull it off with that accent but he tries. >> he's in my wednesday night hoops league. big trash talker. many were hospitalized at a furry convention. officials were called when a strong odor of chlorine spre spread -- >> they had to evacuate the

building and everything. >> they were sent into the cold night. many still dressed in their furry costumes. >> we have a lot of costumes out here that will keep people warm so we're not worried. >> we've been pulling people into a huddle to warm this baby and giving her our jackets and blankets. >> we told mika what the convention was about. >> costumes kept everybody warm was good news. >> where are you going? come back. come back. can you check on mika and see if she's okay. she's over there somewhere. >> mika has left the building. >> coming up, we have must read opinion pages. we'll be searching for mika. >> she just learned something. learned something important about this world. >> we all wish we didn't know. she ran out of the studio. we also have senator elect tom

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>> he knows i want him to run. run, jeb. he would be great president. >> you talked about bill clinton and his relationship with your father and how it developed and your mother as well and he's your brother from another mother. what does that make hillary clinton to the bush family? >> my sister-in-law. >> interesting. do you think that your brother could run against your sister-in-law? >> yeah. i think he would beat her. >> do you? >> i do. i do. >> she's formidable. >> no question. so is he. >> you'll take that bet? >> absolutely. >> wow. >> talking about potential for his brother to run. joining us now, mr. mike allen. good morning. >> good morning. >> we'll get to your top story in just a moment. let's run through new bloomberg politics polls matching hillary clinton against several top contenders on the republican side in a potential race for president in 2016.

the former first lady leads jeb bush, chris christie and mitt romney by six-point margins. she beats ted cruz by double digits and rand paul by eight. according to bloomberg poll, shared values, strong leadership and vision for the future are top qualities voters are looking for. in 2012, exit polls show mitt romney won in those three categories but today secretary clinton is leading those republicans in every single one. she also leads in name recognition of course with voters seeing an advantage in experience as secretary of state, her campaign history, and even her close ties to wall street. >> really? >> what do you make when you look through those polls? >> i would say that the headline out this poll and it's a big poll for us is that secretary clinton is going to be tough to beat. she's not unbeatable by any stretch of the imagination. the margins that she has over a lot of those republicans is right at the edge of the margin of error. six points.

the depth and breath of her support is what's so impressive as you pointed eed out in the r. president obama won in 2012 by beating mitt romney at one thing which was empathy. you're going to have to beat hillary clinton on a bunch of different fronts to win. vision for the future important for an open race. on strength, strong leader, traditionally republican strength. she's ahead by a lot. republicans have their work cut out for them. >> i feel like, you know, the echo chamber has add. all of the people covering her and talking about her are, like, i don't know. they want to move on. when you talk to people anywhere, if they're a democrat, they are so excited about hillary clinton. >> john, can i ask you, the thing that was interesting to me was in terms of the advantage married to bill clinton. what roll does the former president play? do voters see it as a twofer in some way? it's striking to see that's

number two. no other republican candidate has a spouse with the same kind of stature both in terms of experience and as a campaigner. what role does that play? >> president clinton was a mixed blessing for hillary clinton in 2008. after his performance in 2012, there's a bipartisan consensus among political strategist that president clinton because of his economic record as president is the emblem for what we want in terms of economic credibility. emblem of economic credibility and for a broadly based economic success that the country hasn't had since then basically. she has -- he's a super smart political strategist and gives her the economy and those are huge assets but as in 2008, he sometimes can be when it comes to her a little unpredictable. there's a question about what precise role he'll play in her campaign. she'll have to be careful about that. >> let's bring michael allen.

you have a story about the koch brothers. explains what you found there. >> we're looking at whether an outside group, someone beyond the political parties, could elect a president. that used to be something that was just a fantasy in movies or books or maybe on the fringes. but the koch network through its political arm based here across the river in arlington, virginia, freedom partners, is putting those pieces in place. one of the most fascinating ones that we got an exclusive look here was the kochs private mind which profiles 250 million americans looking at how they vote, looking into consumer data, your last six addresses, how often you vote, so that campaigns, friendly organizations that purchase this data could use them to figure out how to target you. some of the biggest winners in

the last cycle including your next guest, senator tom cotton, were clients of i-360 in the last race because this data was so good and they've done a bunch of experiments to figure out how in '16 and '18 can they be more effective. they have a rise in beyond the political cycle and a business backing and it's creating a powerful part of this koch footprint. >> very quickly, is this the coke brothe koch brothers looking at old institutions saying we can do this better? >> they are bringing business principles to it. they looked at the debacle for republicans in 2012. did a painful after action study to figure out what they could do better, what could they do differently? they have their own in-house polling, advertising, fact checking capabilities and they have their own boots on the ground through veterans groups, groups aimed at hispanic.

young people putting all these pieces in place. their own political organization someone in both parties told me that this is the most important outside political force in america. no one else is even close. >> mike allen, thank you so much. we love having you here. willie, a couple quick reactions here. >> playoffs. >> playoffs. what do you think of tcu being number three? >> i don't know how the committee thought a week ago they were the third best team in the country. they win by 52 points on saturday and they're the fifth best team in the country. i don't know how you pick between tcu, baylor and ohio state. i don't know how you pick the last one. >> i really don't know either. again, how do you drop a team from three to five after they win by 50 points? >> ohio state won impressively but so did tcu. >> i guess nobody around the table is talking about it at the time but the new republic, man.

it's a magazine that's bleeding right now. john heilemann, what's going on over there? >> it's a huge culture clash that's played out there. one that you could say some people thought you could see coming from the moment that chris hughes came in there and not just frank but a lot of -- almost everybody of consequence on editorial side has walked out the door with frank leaving and a lot of the contributing editors and a lot of top reporters. they basically left on friday. >> we love frank. we love so many people that left the magazine. >> it's a big challenge. it's a big challenge to take an old media brand like that and try to repurpose it for the future. it's harder to do it when you don't have talent. they don't have a lot of that right now. >> it's going to be really tough for them. now, chris, of course, who is paying for all of this, you know, saw that they lost 5 million bucks last year.

it's in "the new york times" story. so you just wonder. the magazine has been losing money for years. at some point you have to make some really tough decisions but, boy, this was an earthquake, journalistic earthquake. >> sure was. up next, he went from u.s. army to capitol hill. senator-elect tom cotton joins us with his take on major overseas developments including a failed mission to rescue an american in one of the most dangerous places in the world.

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republican tom cotton. welcome back to the show. good to have you on this morning. >> good morning, mika. it's great to be on with you as always. >> let's start with the news of the day. we have this rescue attempt which tragically failed. there's criticism coming from family members and others who wish it hadn't happened. what's your take? >> well, i don't have all of the details of the raid, mika, but our special operations forces are awesome and any type of raid or rescue attempt on the battlefield is subject to a barking dog or sleeping child, from everything i read, they behaved bravely and competently and the raid just didn't go well and unfortunately luke somers was killed in the raid but any time we know where an american is being held and we have a chance to rescue that american, our default position should be we go get our fellow citizens. >> senator-elect, it's, willie geist. good to see you this morning. i want to move to immigration.

you moved for constituencies to light up the switchboard over the question of immigration. what are you upset about and what do you want americans to do? >> any time americans are dissatisfied with the direction of policy in washington about any issue, the best way they can affect the direction of washington is to vote but we just had a vote so for the next 23 months, the best way they can effect the direction of policy is to contact their senator or representative. obviously i think barack obama's executive amnesty he created is unconstitutional and congress should use every tool at our disposal to stop it. i wish we would do that this week. if we don't, we should fund the government in a short-term basis and in the new year when we have a new and accountable congress and senate, we should take action to stop the president from going forward with issuing 5 million new work permits and taxpayer identification numbers to illegal immigrants. staying with immigration, you know there was a bipartisan senate bill passed on immigration reform, some people

suggested it would be a good idea to allow the house to have an up or down vote on that. how would you feel about that as a possible route to comprehensive reform? >> i don't think any lame duck issue on any major issue like that should make decisions when you have retiring members or losing members who are no longer accountable to their -- >> i was thinking in the next session and not in lame duck. >> i think immigration reform needs to focus on real problems which is lack of security at our border and internal enforcement. american people don't have confidence that washington, d.c. is going to secure our border and enforce our immigration laws. until they have that confidence, it will make it harder to progress on any other front and barack obama's decision shortly after he lost an election in large measure because he wasn't paying attention to the economy to make it easier for illegal immigrants to get jobs, is going to make it harder to reform our immigration system. >> follow-up quick, you think bipartisan senate bill that passed with republican votes that had a lot to do with border

security, do you think that doesn't go far enough on border security for your taste? >> i think the american people have seen time and time again when washington passes a bill that is amnesty first and enforcement second, we always get amnesty and seldom get enforcement. we need to give american people confidence we'll move forward with any measure passed into law. >> congressman, many people were surprised when you said in the last election that as a citizen you would vote for an increase in the statewide minimum wage in arkansas. i'm wondering how you came to that position and what would be your position on a federal increase on the minimum wage? >> this is one issue where my democratic opponent and i agreed that an immediate nationwide increase to $10 would be bad for arkansas workers and bad for arkansas business. the arkansas measure was done at the state level so it was done closer to the people and it was a much smaller and incremental increase that accounted for

econom economics in our state. the congressional budget office, a nonbipartisan research institute said it would cost up to a million americans jobs. i rather see a healthy economy where you have high demand for everyone's labor like you see in places like north dakota and west texas because of the oil boom or new clerks at walmart or new cooks at mcdonald's are getting $15 an hour because of the growing economy and not because of washington's regulations. >> senator-elect tom cotton, thank you very much. good to see you. >> thank you. still ahead, the top plays and big surprises from sunday's nfl action. we'll be right back. this is jim. a man who doesn't stand still. but jim has afib, atrial fibrillation an irregular heartbeat,

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and racing into the end zone. touchdown. >> low snap. newton over the top. reaches across for a carolina touchdown. >> play-action. end zone. caught. touchdown. >> back to throw. pumps. looking end zone. he's got it. t.y. hilton. colts lead! >> the ball is tipped. it's called by bell. he scores. >> fourth and a foot and a half. foster nowhere to go. >> what else do i need to say? that was a great recap. >> the redskins, how bad are they? how bad are the redskins? >> 3-10 bad. >> people trash rg3 in the locker room now. >> some of the other games. let's start with last night. san diego/chargers/patriots.

two-point lead. tom brady hits edelman over the middle. sheds a tackler. 69 yards for the touchdown. wow, he's fast. patriots improve to 10-3 after the 23-14 win over the chargers. philly, russell wilson and seahawks visiting the eagles. wilson ones run in and threw for two more and seattle wins 24-14. they are back in the game. to denver, broncos hosting bills. it's the first time in 51 games peyton manning did not throw a touchdown. instead the broncos relying on c.j. anderson rushing for three scores and denver wins 24-17. cardinals trailing chiefs in the third. a 26-yard go-ahead touchdown in the third and they win. in oakland, a surprise win. battle of the bay. raiders behind carr through three touchdowns.

oakland shafts san francisco 49ers. >> what's the last time that happened? >> i think it's 15 years. >> we'll look at a couple of pages from "the washington post" sports page. you'll notice the bag dysfunction junction in washington d.c. if you think it can't get worse if you're a redskins fan, look at the back of "the daily news." biggest losers new york jets have the worst record in the nfl. >> so now it's obvious what they have to do. you tank the last three games. you want the number one pick in the draft at 2-11 there's no shame in that. >> then you trade your number one draft pick for mark sanchez. >> brett favre. >> i think you get sanchez and i think you get tim tebow out of retirement. >> let's get favre, tebow and sanchez. >> they doubled their output. >> still ahead on "morning joe,"

continued protests overnight over the eric garner choke hold case and now more athletes are voicing criticism of the grand jury's decision and what happened that night at the university of virginia when a young woman told "rolling stone" magazine she was the victim of a gang rape. we'll speak with "the washington post" reporter that broke the news that forced "rolling stone" to issue their major clarification. stay with us.

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>> okay. >> i thought that was pretty good. >> not as exciting as i thought it would be. >> wow. >> i don't get it. >> you don't get what? >> i appreciate that skit. "star wars." come on. >> i said to mika when she was attacking "star wars," she said that people dress in costumes. >> bought at target or party city. >> i said so did shakespeare. they dressed in costumes. i never liked shakespeare. >> it's not realistic. "star wars" is ridiculous. >> you can't say that about shakespeare. >> how are you doing? >> great. >> how was your weekend? >> splendid. >> we need to talk -- i sure don't want to talk about

liverpool this morning. let's talk about the galaxy, man. >> what a great story for landon donovan. >> is that all you're going to tell me? >> he wanted to talk about. that's all he's got. >> i thought it was a great story. >> what a great story about landon donovan booted off the american people and heartbreaking and here the guy finishes up with a packed -- absolutely packed house. and a lot of european stars now think about coming to america to play. >> if you follow his story, he's 32 years old, a great model for the sport in this country. a tremendous individual all around in a time when athletes in this country are known for bad things. he's actually walking out on top and he's doing it on his own terms. if you hear comments he's been making on a positive note. >> he's a great guy. you're a lions fan, right? >> lions fan and ohio state.

>> good day for you. >> great day. splendid weekend. >> i'll give you ten points if you want to take ohio state in ten points. >> i'll take ohio state. >> okay. we'll talk about it afterwards. >> to the news now, the widespread protests over the deaths of eric garner and michael brown are prompting presidents past and present to weigh in on the state of race in america. in an interview scheduled to air tonight on b.e.t., president obama says it's an issue that will not be solved overnight. >> this is something that is deeply rooted in our society. it's deeply rooted in our history. but the two things that are going to allow us to solve it, number one, is the understanding that we have made progress and so it's important to recognize as painful as these incidents are, we can't equate what is happening now to what was happening 50 years ago. the second thing that i insist to these young people, you have to be persistent because

typically progress is in steps. it's in increments. >> 46% of americans disapprove of president obama's response to grand jury decisions in new york and ferguson and a bloomberg poll has 53% believing that race relations have gotten worse under president obama and george w. bush is also weighing in saying reaction shows more must be done so that race becomes a less divisive part of life. >> you know, the verdict was hard to understand, i hadn't seen all of the details. it's sad that race continues to play such an emotional decisive part of life. it calls into question what needs to be done to heal -- to get the country united again.

and there's been tremendous progress based on race but incident shows there needs to be more. >> the eric garner case and that decision actually is just as unifying as the debate over ferguson was decisive. we have presidents -- everybody i talk to -- i have yet to talk to one person that understands what happened on staten island. >> i would say not everybody agreeing around the staten island case. i found a poll interesting that shows similar to bloomberg poll a racial divide and we all saw the same video in that case. we see the exact same piece of evidence, it's filtered through different perspectives and people come out. having said that, you're right. for former president bush and president obama to both in their own ways say, look, there's a

problem here and on this show on friday for chief bratton who tick ed off four or time reform he wants to institute in his department, there is a problem and there should be policy responses. >> one of my critiques of the republican party over the last several years is they are often moot on race issues when they should peek out. they were all moot after trayvon. and in this case though, you even have john boehner speaking out talking about the need for an investigation. there are hopeful signs. i must say -- >> senator rand paul has actually been one of the few members -- >> rand paul started over the past six months to a year to start talking about race and i was glad to see somebody do that. it's about time. i'm curious. the president has high disapproval marks for how he's handled ferguson. what am i missing? i don't know what people expect him to do. >> i think partly that's our

fault in the media. all last week starting monday and then again on wednesday and on thursday, the president and the attorney general announced a range of initiatives around policing in this country that i don't think people paid attention to. >> really good ones. >> i think if people -- >> really good ones. we can have a debate about how well these initiatives will work whether collecting more data, whether some money for video cameras, you know, for body cameras will work. we can debate that. i don't think most americans are paying attention to what the white house announced to deal with this problem. there's a lot of discussion last week. >> new york city officers are in the midst of being completely regrouped on the way they deal with -- >> retrained. that's right. >> that's happening as we speak. >> right. >> okay. let's go to some other news. i want to get to the "rolling stone" story if we could.

"rolling stone" is now dealing with blow back from all sides as the magazine changes its story following its sweeping expose of an alleged gang rape at the university of virginia fraternity house there. the original article drew global attention to allegations that stunned the campus but on friday the magazine issued a note to readers casting doubt on its own story and acknowledging it never reached out to the men accused of the crime out of deference to the victim. "rolling stone" said "we shouldn't have made this agreement with jackie and worked harder to convince her that the truth would have been better served by getting the other side of the story." the note also said "our trust in her was misplaced." that line sparked a backlash where it said the woman was being blamed and later "rolling stone" wrote "these mistakes are on "rolling stone" and not on

jackie and apologize to anyone affected by the story and will continue to investigate the events of that evening." the magazine also acknowledged discrepancies in the woman's story first reported by "the washington post." according to the post a student that came to jackie's aid says she didn't appear physically injured as told by "rolling stone." an alleged attacker that jackie identified to friends was actually the name of a student who belongs to a different fraternity. joining us now from washington, education reporter for "the washington post," the piece helped coast doubt on rollingstroll "rolling ston stone"'s report. >> talk about your reporting. >> i first met students who knew jackie last week and through building relationships with them and reporting this story, i later came to meet jackie herself. jackie told me a story that was s substantially similar to the one

reported to "rolling stone." we noticed there were gaps we needed to address in order to feel comfortable printing a story of our own. >> what's the first one that rang the alarm bell for you that the story may not be accurate? >> it's still clear that perhaps jackie went through some kind of trauma. it's just that certain details that were reported so far appear to be inconsistent such as the date. there was no member of the fraternity employed by their aquatic and fitness center. >> you said it's clear she went through some kind of trauma. what indication do you have of that? >> that's what her friends believe. her story seemed very compelling when she told it to me and they believe, her friends, that perhaps she did suffer some sort of sexual assault. it's just not clear if it's what was recounted in "rolling sto " stone." >> in talking to the friends, did you find out friends felt like like their words had been

twisted by the "rolling stone" article? >> i'm sorry? could you repeat that? >> the friends, i read a quote this weekend that one of the friends sounded upset at the way the story was framed by "rolling stone," one that had cooperated with "rolling stone" and the story. >> i think the friends obviously felt that the story they read is not the same they heard a lot of times. obviously it's disconcerting to people. they feel like their trust was betrayed. they care deeply about jackie and they want wants best for her and want to find out what really happened too. >> what's the last time you talked to jackie? >> i last talked to jackie last thursday. >> so before the apology? >> yes. >> okay. do you have a sense from her what kinds of demands she made on the reporter? we heard -- >> the deal cut. >> in terms of what she wanted the reporter -- what she didn't

want the reporter to do in terms of following up with the accused? >> when i first spoke to jackie, she told me she initially never planned for her story to be broadcast worldwide. as she began speaking more with the reporter, she later decided she wanted to be taken out of the article. as the story continued to -- she agreed later obviously to participate in full with the story and she later said she felt that it was accurate. she told me the story was accurate. >> all right. thank you. we'll be following this as it unfolds. >> can i ask you, john, you said off camera before that some people that had read even the lead of the "rolling stone" article that you talked to that were in the profession immediately expressed out. >> there's a guy named richard bradley who posted a blog post shortly after this story came out. the story begins with a detailed

account of what this source says happened to her. a single source which is very vivid and graphic and involves a gang rape that lasted for three hours and multiple parties involved. >> thrown on a glass table. shattered. >> this editor wrote a blog post and kicked off in media circles questions about the story where he said he published steven glass and now i bring to you these stories, stories that conform to my prejudices. i bring heightened scrutiny. southern fraternity guys behaving this way saying grab its leg referring to this woman as it. to him it seemed that it was not -- he didn't know it was fabricated but shedding a harsh light on it and a fair number of people in the profession i know who read that account and said, boy, this might be true. anything could be true.

there's a lot of red flags in some of the details in that story. you read it and thought this could be true but, boy, this is a really -- >> it conforms to pre-existing prejudices of the editors. >> there's a problem with campus rape and that's been a problem with campus rape at the university of virginia. it's not that there's not a real problem. >> nobody is saying there is. >> the story exploded because of the problem. >> it's not a prejudice if you look at an institution where there have been problems in the past. >> i'm just repeating back what you said. >> i'm just -- >> i don't know when i say what you say you feel like -- >> i don't know what the prejudice of "rolling stone" editors are. >> the guy you were talking about at george magazine. again repeating back what you said. >> i'm agreeing with that.

>> when a guy from the south says what a guy from brooklyn says you feel like you have 30 minutes explaining that there is rape on college campuses across america. >> i took exception to the fact that it conformed to prejudices of "rolling stone" editors. >> i didn't say that. >> that's what i was reacting to. when richard bradley wrote this thing many people in the profession were, like, there's a lot of detail here that seems -- i don't want to say too good to be true but from a standpoint of it just -- there's a lot of things and details in that account you think, boy, i would really want to triple check that before i publish it. >> we'll turn to politics now. joining from washington, staff writer with "the hill." you have written this. "the starting gun for what could be the most competitive presidential primary in recent memory will be fired once a big name candidate announces and police insiders are placing their bets on who will be the

first out of the gate. we'll have candidates starting later this cycle than people may have thought said a senior adviser to senator john mccain during his presidential bids. it's going to be late winter to early spring announcements opposed to late december through february. weaver said it would be a free-for-all once candidates begin declaring. it's like dominos, he says. the first semiserious domino falls and then others will fall. the discipline goes out the window." >> so when do the dominoes start falling? >> i heard as early as february 1st for some candidates. clearly there are some participants in the future republican field who have more of an incentive to get in fast because they may not last as long. they don't have as much money. they want to make a splash in advance of getting a vp nod. that may be someone like ted cruz or bobby jindal. that's what sources told me. someone like jeb bush or hillary clinton have a huge incentive to

wait in this race. they can hop in at the end given their ability to fund raise. we tried to game out conversations about what's happening in washington on who will get in first. it's a game theory nightmare for strategist to figure out who this will go down. >> who do we expect to get in first? rand paul, ted cruz? >> we expect someone in that tier. it won't be a christie or jeb bush or hillary. i would expect rand to wait a little longer actually. i think we might see a bobby jindal. mike huckabee won't get into two quickly. a smaller name. >> does chris christie get in if jeb bush gets in? >> i think so. i think christie is going to run. the thing we discussed last week is for a lot of people, the biggest gating function is does bush run and that if he runs, mitt romney doesn't run. that's the most important thing.

i think if bush doesn't run, there's a chance that mitt romney does. >> mitt romney ahead in most of the polls. if jeb runs, mitt does not run? >> i believe that's right. they hinted that's the case, he and his wife, ann. they have high regard for him. they think they would defeat for too many donors and votes and they think he could beat hillary clinton. >> who is the best democrat to jump in? >> martin o'malley people are thinking. elizabeth warren if she decides to run could wait quite a while. i agree what was said on the panel. if christie wants to get in early, he could because he wants to scare jeb bush a little bit who is still deciding. if jeb bush gets in, rubio might not because you have that mentor relationship. they share advisers. could be tricky for rubio to jump in after a jeb bush. we'll have to wait and see what happens in florida. >> all right.

thank you so much. greatly appreciate it. we have as lead in "the new york times," six gitmo prisoners. what impact does that have on u.s. policy and the middle east? >> a step in the right direction. closer the u.s. gets to closing gitmo, the more they'll be one less thing that its enemies could use as a rallying cry. gitmo is such a stain on u.s. foreign policy overseas. it's still used and appears in prop graaganda video. they are wearing the orange jump suits made notorious in gitmo. it's a step in the right direction. still ahead, the big battle that's brewing on capitol hill. the cia report that many lawmakers and secretary of state john kerry don't want you to read. andrea mitchell joins us with that story when we return.

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there's a big debate over torture being used following the 9/11 attacks. democratic senator dianne feinstein, outgoing chair of the intelligence committee is fighting to make it possible to release a report. andrea mitchell has the story. >> reporter: the u.s. embassy in egypt is many of one on alert today as washington braces for the release of an explosive senate report on the cia's use of torture ordered by president bush after 9/11. one of those briefed, the house intelligence committee chairman. >> foreign leaders approached the government and said you do this, this will cause violence and deaths. our own intelligence community has assessed that this will cause violence and deaths. >> reporter: the report is

expected to accuse the cia of lying to congress, the white house and the american people. it concludes that torture used on three detainees including khalid shaikh mohammed did not produce results. former cia leaders are firing back. >> to say that we relentlessly over an expanded period of time lied to everyone about a program that wasn't doing any good, that beggars the imagination. >> reporter: it did help find osama bin laden and prevent other attacks and cia officials briefed congress repeatedly and the senate never interviewed any of the officials named. president obama acknowledged the torture program last august. >> we tortured some folks. we did some things that were contrary to our values. >> senate investigators have not been backing down at all despite a personal call by john kerry to

alert them that foreign leaders were concerned about violence should the report be released this week. he suggested delaying it at least a week. they are fighting to release it as early as tomorrow. >> andrea, what do you imagine is in it or what have you been told that is in incendiary at this point? >> first of all, they're going to describe practices that took place for approximately three years. those enhanced interrogation techniques. that's been referred to as torture. they'll describe not only the techniques but where it took place and what foreign governments participated in the post- 9/11 interrogations and detentions. that's going to be very controversial. they are also going to name names. they are going to speak to several of the former cia directors and some of their deputies who were involved in this practice. now, their argument is that it was authorized by president bush

obviously with support of vice president cheney and rumsfeld and others in the administration at the time, condoleezza rice, and it was repeatedly authorized and repeatedly briefed to congress but allegation is going to be they lied to the american people and didn't adequately brief congress and the real complaint by officials named in the report is that they were not interviewed. they had no chance to rebut it in almost six years of investigation. the contrary information from the senate side is that they relied on internal ig report from the cia so that they had depositions from these people. they say that they should have had the opportunity to be interviewed. >> andrea mitchell, thank you very much. we'll be watching that. coming up, royal fever is taking over the big apple. we'll go live to nbc's kate snow who is following prince william and the duchess of cambridge's big visit to new york city. much more "morning joe" when we come back. ♪ (holiday music is playing)

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the royals have arrived. i know you all have been waiting with bated breath. john heilemann is so excited. they are waking up at the

carlyle ready to begin their first ever trip to the big apple. that's why nbc's kate snow joins us live. they left prince george behind, the little one. >> they did, mika. he's 1 year old. maybe they wanted a little break, a baby moon before they have their second child. she's expecting right now. five months pregnant. we've seen prince william leave here this morning on his way to washington, d.c. today where he'll be at the white house and give a speech. a really critically worded speech about endangered wildlife and illegal poaching and kate will head up to harlem and reunite for a mets game in brooklyn. new yorkers just hoping to catch a glimpse. it was their first time setting foot in manhattan and cheering fans got the best view of the royal couple amid christmas lights sunday night. the royal baby bump showing under kate's maternity coat and later stepping out for a private

dinner, the duchess dazzled in a black lace dress. they flew in on a commercial flight leaving baby george behind in london. >> they were actually mingling with everyone else. >> reporter: the carlyle hotel will be their home away from home. the favorite of william's mother diana. >> when she came out, there would be people out there and she would take the time to wave and acknowledge everyone before she got in her car. she was very special to us. >> reporter: the duke of cambridge will kick-start the tour in d.c. meeting with president obama, vice president and dr. biden at the white house, and later hillary and chelsea clinton at a new york reception for wildlife conservation. at the north side center for childhood development in harlem kate will gift wrap presidents for the kids who are busy making decorations for the royal

visitor. some of them don't really know who the duchess is. >> he's expecting elsa from "frozen." >> and tonight will and kate may meet up with music royalty, jay-z and beyonce at the basketball game. the royal couple going courtside to catch lebron james himself who says playing for them is a huge honor. >> reporter: and who knows. maybe we'll catch them on the kiss cam. now, i don't know if you caught this last night, but the empire state building was lit up in red, white and blue in honor of the royal couple. tomorrow prince william has an event at the empire state building, a reception there. there's a report this morning that maybe kate would like to go with him to the empire state building, which would make sense since it's her first time in new york but she's technically not on the schedule to go to that event.

back to you. >> all right. kate snow at the carlyle. thank you so much. people are very excited. it's nice. >> are you going to the game? >> yeah. >> going to ruin it for them. >> court side seats? >> i don't like to disclose the location of seats. >> they're bad. >> they're not court side. >> i'll be sitting next to the royals. >> think bob uecker. >> keep your distance. up next from regional violence to a breakdown in government, complicated part of israel's leadership. we'll talk to the country's ministry of economy and something that adults and students are not doing enough of and we'll tell you what that is ahead on "morning joe." [ breathing deeply ] [ inhales deeply ] [ sighs ] [ inhales ]

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37 past the hour. there appears to be the end to a halt of reported israeli air strikes targeting hezbollah weapons in syria. the syrian government is accusing the country of carrying out strikes near an airport and is urging the u.n. to take action. here with us now israeli minister of the economy. good to have you on the show this morning. >> thank you for being with us. a lot to talk about today. not sure exactly where we start. let's talk about -- we always talk about how chaotic our government is and dysfunctional it is. it's good to have you on to talk about what happened with benjamin netanyahu blew everything up as far as the cabinet and i guess elections coming in march. >> we're going to general elections in march. i think it's going to be pretty much about what our extent in the region should be. on the strong and tough side or appeasing side in there are two

approaches in israel. one approach says we're in this mess of a region with isis and hezbollah and hamas and we got to stand tough. another approach says we need to try to pacify the region and love us enough to accept the jewish state. >> i don't have to ask where you are. >> you don't have to ask. it was a lead-in comment, wasn't it in it? >> what caused the backbiting in benjamin netanyahu's cabinet? >> there was tension regarding the latest conflict and person problems within the government and i guess he was fed up with all this and said let's go back to the people and ask them for renewed -- >> there's some controversy going on with this nationality bill that's being discussed or proposed. what's your take on this? there's some criticism it will alienate israel making it a

state only for the jewish population and not the minority arabs and that was one of the reason why this cabinet collapsed. >> my stance is very simple. israel is a jewish and democratic state period. it's the state of the jewish nation surrounded by 23 arab and muslim states. we have one tiny jewish state. if you get in a car, you know how long of a drive it is, 15 minutes? that's how big israel is side to side from ocean to the green line. 15-minute ride. it's almost a bit more than manhattan. and so, yeah, we're the state of the jews. they only have one state in the world and it's democratic. we have 2 million arabs who enjoy full equal rights. we have arab supreme court judges and it should be. as minister of economy, i've worked hard to bring in the arab women population into the workforce.

we only had 25% of them working compared to almost 80%. i've set up employment centers and training centers across israel. now we're up to 30%. i want to bring it up to 80%. >> let's look at politics. the secretary of state john kerry said he wouldn't interfere in the election. what influence or support are you looking for from the united states? >> none in the sense of i don't think any country should intervene in another country's internal democratic process. in the past, it's even backlashed sometimes it was external intervention which brought the opposite result. >> i was going to ask, i don't know that john kerry's endorsement would actually help given the last six months. we know and could ask him to endorse you. would you like that? >> i do want a good future in israeli political system. i think israelis like many other countries, when there's external

pressure, we sort of bounce back and america is israel's best friend. we don't have anyone like america in the world understanding in the midst of this muslim spring and chaos of isis because hezbollah are cutting off heads and israel is smack in the middle. >> there's concerns from john kerry and the president and you go back to july and we were watching horrific images out of gaza day in and day out. i've long been a strong israeli supporter. i voiced real concerns about images i was seeing. looking back over the summer, is there something that israel could have done differently. somehow they could have managed that crisis better? >> we need to have a charter. we need to avoid having any conflict. unfortunately i served in pretty much military conflict as a soldier and commander and no one

wants war. problem is simple. the palestinians keep on placing missile launchers within schools and homes and then they shoot at my kids' house. my children. what do you do? >> i understand that. there were obviously a lot of warnings about the united nations and we've heard repeated warnings time and time again. it seemed to me again as somebody who is consistently been a supporter of israel this time israel ignored some warnings that it shouldn't have ignored and people died because of it. is that fair to say that some big mistakes were made? >> i think the big mistake was by hamas who placed in the u.n. camps and in hospitals and in schools, it placed missile launchers and shot missiles into israel. that's the story. then we shot back. there was unfortunately a lot of death. it's hamas who is butchering its own people by placing a missile launcher. imagine walking on the streets of new york and someone is standing behind his kids and shooting at your kids. you'll shoot back. he's killing his own kids.

hamas was killing their own children by doing that. it's very unfortunate. israel will always defend itself. >> you are minister of economy. i'll ask you to be a political analyst right now. the prime minister obviously believes he can put together a different kind of coalition in the election you'll have in march. talk about political dynamics there. israeli public opinion shifted far enough right that the prime minister can build a government that's more to his liking. >> i think that's pretty much the idea. what happened during the last summer is there was a profound sea change in israeli public. i would say about 10% movement to the right because israelis were disillusioned. we gave up gaza. we pulled out. we expelled 8,000 jews from their homes. we gave 100% of the gaza strip to the palestinians in 2005. and now from that very place they are shooting tens of thousands of missiles at us so

when you look at the facts, people say what's the deal? why do we do this? people less believe in this giving up more land approach and just understand that -- >> how do you break the continued cycle of violence? how do you do it? it seems to me you have one of two choices. you either figure out a way to negotiate with hamas or you obliterate hamas. >> or you stand tough. not every problem in life has a perfect solution. we're in a very difficult region. we're building our economy. >> there's no doubt about it. certainly one of my pet peeves through the years have been american politicians that tried to win nobel peace prizes on the back of israeli security. i understand completely. that said, standing tough, maintaining the status quo, continues a cycle of terror on both sides. >> not necessarily. i believe that we have to do sort of a martial plan in the region. we can't solve it politically in the short-term.

everyone understanding that. it doesn't mean we have to sit on our hands. we need to invest in infrastructure and join businesses which are really working pretty well. >> can i ask about this. i sit there and look at this violence, the horrific conditions that the gazans are living in and i sit here and wonder what the world community can do to improve the economy there and talk about sort of a mini martial plan for gaza. >> when the quality of life gets better for people, you'll see a change in attitudes. there's a problem with gaza and that area is under siege. israel withdrew soldiers but it controls territory waters and economic aspects of development in gaza. not only gaza. if you look also at the west bank, israel has an ally or partner in the west bank with

palestinian authority and some would like to argue. it hasn't improved the economic situation for palestinians. >> i beg to differ on both. in gaza, our policy is simple. open up for any civilian use. food, water, anything they need is fully open but if they want to import missiles or cement to dig tunnels into israel which they did, they have spent the past five years taking all that cement and building tunnels instead of hospitals. they have to make a decision. if they want to build gaza, if they want to turn gaza into singapore, i'll be their biggest ally. if they want to turn it into afghanistan, no way. >> quickly on the west bank. talk about that. >> i also disagree. west bank is going through a very good economic growth. it's true the palestinian authority is a corrupt authority. they take all of the money the world pours into their pockets but the people there, they want

to thrive. and today already 30,000 palestinians are working side by side with israelis. why can't it be 300 palestinians. let's make life better for ten years instead of all of these diplomatic stuff and let's revisit the whole thing in ten years with everyone having a better quality of life. >> unfortunately we have to leave it there because this is a fascinating conversation. thank you very much. >> thank you so much. we'll work on that john kerry endorsement. >> still ahead on "morning joe," if you think you didn't get enough of something last night, you're not alone. we'll explain when we come back. what is that? [prof. burke] it's easy to buy insurance and forget about it. but the more you learn about your coverage, the more gaps you might find. like how you thought you were covered for this. [boy] check it out,mom! [prof. burke]when you're really only covered for this.

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if you put late hours, your balance in the bank will always be good. but if you start skimming on it and you sleep only six hours, at the end of five days, you'll owe yourself ten hours. europe in the red for ten hours. so you say well, i'm going to pay back a little bit. i'm going to sleep ten hours instead of eight. but now you've recovered only four out of those ten. so you're still six hours overdrafted and this is week after week after week and you will never pay the debt. you're going to have to declare bankruptcy because you are failing. >> oh, my goodness. >> that's "sleepless in

america," a film made in partnership with the national geographic channel. the producer of the documentary. >> great to have you on. >> this is for us because we have such bizarre sleep schedules. we are bankrupt around here. a lot of people in the control room bankrupt as you say. you said off camera though, like the system always wins. you can't beat -- >> no. >> you get seven hours to eight hours of sleep a night or you lose in the long run. >> well, pick your fear. what do you fear most in life? is it cancer, is it heart disease? diabet diabetes? inadequate sleep is a significant risk factor for all those things and more. >> and is -- what is the minimum that we have to sleep every night? >> you know, everybody, as a species, we need at least seven hours of sleep. you get below seven hours of

sleep and the problems accumulate. so 30% of americans are getting less than six hours of sleep a night. so for them this is a significant health risk. >> does america have more of a problem sleeping than, say, europe? >> the whole world. i mean, we're all connected. and this is really one of the greatest contributors to all this sleep loss. >> what about shift workers and people who work -- we were talking about the -- you know, against the normal sleep hours? >> sleep is useful. no matter when you get it. >> you know what i mean, there is sleep you're forced to find yourself with sleep adrugs and s light sleep. if you are never actually getting rem sleep and sleeping at night. >> the people who are at most risk for disturbed sleep are people with sleep aprneapnea. because they're gasping for breath. but people who are shift workers

who are going -- getting four, five hours of sleep, they are getting into deep sleep. they're just not getting enough. we need to get seven to eight hours. so if you're getting it in shifts, you're getting it in blocks, that's fine. >> oh, really? >> so nasa's studies on naps are showing naps are a great thing. >> i cannot sleep when i know you can. but you have pharmaceutical aids. >> i like to nap. >> yeah, i don't nap. >> napping is good. >> i need to. >> i could put two in the bank. two hours in the bank. >> you can, you can. >> power nap. >> i have to learn how to -- >> my understanding is you couldn't make up a sleep debt. you're saying you can. >> you need to accumulate those seven or eight hours a day. but if you are consistently getting those six hours of sleep, the damage is being done. you don't make up for it on the weekend. >> i see. >> but you said there's a nasa study that shows the power of napping. >> 100% improvement in

performance. 20 minute nap. >> i'm telling you, power napping is the key. all you got to do. just shut it down for a half an hour. come on. you can do it. >> no one can beat the system. i mean, in either study of diabetes, of heart disease, you just can't beat the system. so people who say they're getting four, five hours of sleep, and they're just fine, it's not true. >> they're not just fine. what do we do? when you said you have to get at least seven hours of sleep, you said, i'll have to take drugs to sleep at night. you said don't do it. ways the best way forward? >> the drugs on the market, one of the -- matt walker from berkeley is -- the way he would put it is, are you unconscious or are you asleep. and there's a big difference. so do you want to be unconscious for seven hours or do you want to be asleep and get the

restorative effect of those cycles of sleep. the drug, s we have on the mark are not, you know, we need improved drugs. >> what about a cannabis? >> all right, we'll stop there. >> the documentary "sleepless in america" starting today at nat geotv.com. this is fascinating. thank you so much. still ahead, an american hostage dies during a s.e.a.l. team 6 to rescue him. this morning, anger from his family about the effort. plus, why "rolling stone" had to issue a restatement after its apology. what actually happened that night at the university of virginia. stay with us. driver. it's more than the car. for lotus f1 team, the competitive edge is the cloud. powered by microsoft dynamics, azure, and office 365, the team can gain real time insights and

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good morning. >> i'm sorry. >> it is monday, december 8th. welcome to "morning joe." with us on set -- >> you got a chestnut here squeeze box. >> msnbc contributor associate professor at columbia university school of international affairs dorian warren. nbc news foreign correspondent amman modine. >> keeps ignoring me -- >> i'm just trying to say hello to everybody. >> how was your weekend? >> tired this morning.

way too early. that's early. >> willie, good weekend? >> yeah. >> george graduated karate belts. >> cute. >> does he do like -- >> yeah, he's got -- he's 5 so it's early days of his karate career. it's not bruce lee yet. >> he's 5. >> how fun is that? >> that's actually fun. you know we're exposing our kids to like the greatest movies of all time. we're talking about "star wars." last night -- >> oh, no. >> jack and kate scarborough sit down and jack rekwecquests -- >> "star wars." >> no, he's already seen it. one of the great summer movies of all time. >> because this is december. >> "raiders of the lost arc." somehow knew about the rock rolling down and everything. >> is that a good one? >> oh, god. >> oh, oh. >> what? >> get behind me, satan. why do you say things like that?

just to tear a hole in my soul. >> no, that is awful. >> huge news today by the way. friday. came out friday. and i'm looking forward to us leading news with it. i'm sure all the networks are going to be running it for weeks to come. chris christie cleared by the new jersey state legislature. and i'm looking forward -- i actually turned on tv because i was expecting to actually see people that had been talking about it for eight months straight. to say guess what, they actually -- and breaking news, chris christie may be responsibility for a meteor shower or something, it was -- >> okay, just let it -- >> but it's played out. i mean, john heilman, where does chris christie go to get his reputation back? >> i think chris christie's going to do just great. >> should there be like eight weeks of news coverage now?

>> luckily i'm not the news director for any of the institutions -- >> thank god you're not. >> what do you mean? >> i'm not the -- >> what do you think i'm referringing to? >> you made a blanket comment. i'm a news director at none of those places. >> i don't know why you would say that. it makes me sad you think i would be -- >> a lot of coverage on a lot of networks. i'm looking forward to the eight weeks of nonstop breathless coverage. >> okay. two in the weeks here. we'll get to headlines this morning. >> i don't think so. >> are you ready? >> there is backlash over the failed raid to save the life of photo journalist luke somers in yemen. the s.e.a.l. team unit got the green light from president obama to rescue the hostage.

but things took a turn for the worse. >> senior administration officials say friday night navy s.e.a.l.s landed about two miles from their target. but their cover was blown. sparking a firefight and giving his captors time to shoot somers and a south african hostage pierre korkie. it is believed a noishe possibl alerted them. >> both died of gunshots from the al qaeda guards. it was the second attempt to rescue somers. this morning, family members say they are angry because if, quote, there was not a rescue attempt, he would still be alive. adding there were threats on his life before but they were never carried out. a south african charitable group arranged a $200,000 ransom for pierre korkie's release set for friday morning. they thought the teacher was set to be handed off, texting his wife yolanda, who was once a

captive herself. two hours later, her husband was dead. there are also disputes over whether civilians were killed. some reports have the figure as high as eight. u.s. officials say they're unaware of civilian deaths. defense secretary chuck hagel defended the attempt and there's been bipartisan support for effort in washington. "rolling stone" is now dealing with blowback from all sides as the magazine changes its story following its sweeping expose of an alleged gang rape at a university of virginia fraternity house. the original article drew global attention. on friday, the magazine issued a note to readers. casting doubt on its own story and acknowledging that it never reached out to the men accused of the crime out of deference to the victim. said, part, we should not have made this agreement with jackie and we should have worked harder to convince her that the truth would have been better served by getting the other side the

story. the note also said our trust in her was misplaced. that line also sparked backlash with some critics sounding like it was the woman being blamed. so altered the apology, writing, quote, these mistakes are on "rolling stone," not on jackie. we apologize to anyone who was affect eed by the story and we will continue to investigate the events of that evening. the magazine acknowledged discrepancies in the woman's story first reported by the "washington post." a student who came to jackie's aid that night now says she did not appear physically injured as told by "rolling stone." an alleged attacker jackie identified to friends was actually the name of a student would belongs to a different fraternity. "rolling stone"s reporting had far-reaching consequences. it prompted uva to suspend all fraternity activities and brought renewed attention to the federal investigation involving uva and dozens of other universities, possibly

mishandling sexual assault cases. local police are also investigating the fraternity involved. greek letter organizations on the campus are calling on the university to allow their activities to resume. >> i think it's an absolute mess. and willie, a woman who was quoted in the article as an unnamed source said she felt betrayed because the story was just a lie and that came out. and all this came about because "the washington post" and basic journalistic questions. starting with, hey, did you talk to the people who were accused. instead of just talking to the accuser. remarkably enough, they had not. >> that initial statement from "rolling stone" is troubling on a couple fronts. saying we had misplaced trust in her. sort pof putting the blame on wo they call jackie but also implying they just trusted their

one source rather than reporting the story out. i'm sure you've written for "rolling stone." i assume they have rigorous fact checking. that's troubling in a case that brought this much attention. involved this many people's lives. to not do the basic thing -- >> i guess you ask how does this happen. i suppose the people that were the supposed attackers had a presumption of guilt by the people running that magazine. kind like the duke lacrosse player had a presumption of guilt. they just were suspects from the get-go. john, how do you -- i can't imagine that ever happening at new york magazine. any magazines you've written before. they don't even ask about the other side. >> well, look, either magazine makes mistakes. according -- of all places you can point to, t"the new york

time times", "washington post," have had an embarrassing -- >> incredible run over the -- >> there's no institution you can hold up and say they've been perfect, right, but in this case there are really basic things. the reporter apparently made this agreement with the source to not go and talk to the accused. which i think was a mistake. but beyond that, there's simple things that have now come out like the fact when the fraternity did its own investigation, they went back and looked at the calendar and on night she claimed this took place, there was a social event happen, there was no social event happening at that fraternity. the woman making the accusation said she met the man she went on the date with, the alleged date with, who led the attack, said she met him at an aquatic center where they both worked as lifeguards. there are some really basic pieces of reporting beyond the most contentious controversial

things. this is on "rolling stone" and it's also on this reporter who apparently in addition to i think making an agreement with this source that turned out to be really problematic didn't do basic spade work to look into some of the basic corroborating detailed you would need to nail down before you made such an accusation. >> i think it's a good reminder to reporters that are very quick in the season of bill cosby and a lot of these college stories, who are very quick to shoot first and ask questions later because there is always an overwhelming burden of a presumption of guilt in these stories that these reporters and the editors and the newsrooms go into before they write the story to actually check both sides. >> yeah. look, some say something happened to her. i think we can't let the pendulum swing until we bear this out a little bit. you mentioned bill cosby.

i think this is a great point to make because all of us covering the story, no matter what our exact rolls are, you have to remember, there's no evidence at this point. >> well, there's not -- >> technically, he could be completely innocent. it seeps like for him he's been completely tried and convicted. >> we're starting to hear these stories now coming out. bill cosby has nothing to do with the uva story. we heard on friday night, cosby's lawyers talking about the latest accuser tried to sell her story six months ago. couldn't sell the story. so then she started to press charges. maybe cosby's guilty. maybe he's not guilty. as i've been saying from the very beginning, you ask why he was uncomfortable about this. it is hard enough to prove a negative in 2014. go back and try to make a

hollywood famous guy who's been around forever to prove a negative 40 years later. that's a high burden. i'm not exonerated bill cosby. his life's basically been -- >> turned upside down. >> gone up in flames and there's still not a charge. there's still not a single piece of physical evidence. and so again i'm not just talking about -- we're talking about all these stories. >> it's a great example. >> if you look back even ten years ago at the coverage, some of the initial coverage when these claims first came up with bill cosby. most of the journalism around the claims dismissed all the women. a lot has happened in the last ten years in terms of how journalists report these kinds of stories. i think the danger here, the uva case, the bill cosby case, is women will be reluctant to come forward. and we can't let the pendulum swing back in that direction. the court system should handle

these. >> why would that happen? >> well, if women are afraid to come forward with these complaints. because journalists, in this case, "rolling stone," doesn't do their job and therefore there's this huge backlash and silenting effect. i think that's also problematic. >> oh, sure, if they would be. you just need evidence. >> well, you have to let the process -- right? if everybody should -- everybody should be off -- should be able to come forward and let the criminal justice system pursue those cases, collect the evidence and then decide. >> right. >> journalistic article making that deciding for us before all of the process has taken place is problematic. my only issue, if women do not come forward when they're victims and survivors of sexual assault. >> you've seen victim rights groups in the wake of this

argument saying we've been set back ten years, 20 years, because it feeds the perception that women make these things up, which is not true. >> the question is, woz responsible for that, the woman who made up the story or "rolling stone" who ran with it. >> my point, in this case, it may have been made up. we don't know if something may have happened to this one. in other cases where it's not made up, there are people in society who say women make these things up all the time. >> did she not make up the story? in this particular case? >> we know the facts -- we don't know if something -- >> what she told the "rolling stone" reporter is not true. even her friends are saying this story is not true said things did happen that night. specifically did happen. but that this story was not true. >> the way she described it was not true. >> seems to not be true. look. there's a huge problem with

campus rape in this country. >> absolutely. >> you can't -- nothing about how this story proceeds will reduce that truth. but it is the case. i just think for all institutions, if you're going to start throwing rape charges around, whatever your standards of rigor are, they have to be double. normal standard of rigor has to be double. this is a very serious charge to make even against unnamed accusers. >> it is a very serious charge to make and it is a he said/she said charge. and it's just -- >> it's not just about women coming forward. they need to come forward right away. and it helps so much if they can come forward right away. coming forward years later, you are going to have trouble. it is going to be more difficult. >> and there has been a problem. mika did a series about these rape kits that were turned in and then not used for five, six,

seven years. i mean, women have to come forward and be encouraged to come forward and authorities have to be a lot more aggressive with the physical evidence, not with hearsay. with physical evidence. and with their investigations. >> i'd like to talk about this more but i want to get to other news. six prisoners have arrived in south america as refugees. they've been cleared for release since 2009 but the united states struggled to find a country to accept them before uruguay agreed to the move as a humanitarian gesture. all six have been in prison for suspected ties to al qaeda. but none were formally charged. it's the latest effort in a push from president obama to close the prison at guantanamo bay. it was the largest single transfer of detainees since 2009. the inmate population there is now down to 136. that is the lowest number since the camp opened in 2002. >> we also have a story, the cia story, do we have that story.

read that as well. >> this is the torture report -- >> on the torture report. >> dianne feinstein wants this released as soon as possible. it's a battle brewing on capitol hill over a senate report expected to condemn the cia for using torture after the 9/11 attacks. the report was expected to be released this week. dianne feinstein, the outgoing chair of the intelligence committee, is fighting to make that possible. the secretary, john kerry called the senator to say the report will put americans in danger and asked her to delay its release. those concerns were echoed by congressman rogers, the outgoing chair of the intelligence committee. >> i think this is a terrible idea. our foreign partners are telling us this will cause violence and death. saying, you do this, this will cause violence and deaths. our own intelligence community has assessed this will cause violence and deaths.

think of the cartoons in denmark and how many people died as a result. they will use this to incite so violence. >> speaking out, denying the agency lied about its enhanced interrogation techniques. >> does john kerry have a fear that's well founded? will it cause violence across the middle east? >> the short answer really would be we already know the cia -- at least the perception in the middle east where some of the officials may be concerned, this is not going to come as a surprise to anybody in that part of the world. so the assumption this is going to somehow be groundbreaking so much to the point it is going to anger people i think, from my perspective, is not going to rattle a lot of people.

>> what's your response about gitmo, the news out of gitmo? what kind of impact does that continue to have across the middle east? >> it's important for the u.s. to try to close guantanamo. i think this is coming in a perspective that is going to anger people. that is going to upset people a lot more than the cia torture case. these individuals were not officially charged. they're being freed, if you will. but can't go back to their home countries. a lot of the countries would ultimately try to persecute them or their lives would be in danger. that's why the u.s. wants to transfer them to a third country. i think the perspective is people would will look at guantanamo, the fact that president obama on day one tried to close it down, still has not been able to, that angers people a lot more in the middle east. certainly will make enemies of the united states tip to use guantanamo to incite people more so than what we might be hearing from this torture report.

>> what would be the reason to release it? >> the u.s. coming forward, admitting there have been mistakes. its practices were, in fact, if they do use the term illegal, if not, certainly against international contraventions, you know, like torture. i think it's a chance for the u.s. to try to turn the page over that post-9/11 era which really throughout the world has been an example of how the u.s. broke its own kind of morals or values. >> record highs for stocks last week after news that more than 300,000 jobs were added to the u.s. economy. our economic roundtable is next. plus -- >> oh, my god. >> are you kidding me? >> [ bleep ] moving in. oh, my god. >> thank you so much, sweetheart. >> honey, how long you staying? >> just the night. >> well, you don't travel light, do you? >> well, i have to do this

little bit of laundry. you don't mind, do you? >> absolutely. >> the star of the hit show "chrisly knows best" todd chrisly is back with us this morning. >> are you excited? >> i'm very excited, i love that show. >> really? >> remind me to get his autograph for my niece brandy. first, bill karins. >> we have an active forecast. it will be a nor'easter. we are going to hit travel impacts in the northeast come tuesday. it's a cold morning. hard to believe we're going to deal with a big rain storm when the windchill is 5 in albany, 7 in hartford and 6 in boston. it forms later today off the virginia coast line. all of the bright yellows and oranges. that's the heavy rain. that starts overnight tonight, down around the mid-atlantic, through i-95, d.c. and baltimore. by 11:00 a.m., the storm really peaks. that's when the battering waves will be all along the jersey

shore, long island, new york city, into southern new england. that's when the worst of the travel will be. the blue is the snow. it's really confined to interior sections. then by late wednesday morning, mostly over, just some snow left over. right around the binghamton area, syracuse, rome, new york. oswego, adirondacks, burr ling torngs vermont. for the big cities, a big rain around for you. we'll talk more about that in the days to come. we leave you with a shot of a windy times square. bundle up. you're watching "morning joe." ♪ ♪ my baby drove up in a brand new cadillac. ♪

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time to take a look at the morning papers. the "los angeles times." a massive typhoon working its way across the philippines. more than 1 million people are on the move seeking shelters in chur churches, schools, anywhere they can. homes have been washed away. floodwaters continue to rise. more than 30 million people have been affected by the storm so far. >> "the washington post," veterans of the attack on pearl harbor gathered in hawaii on sunday to mark the 73rd anniversary. about 100 pearl harbor and world war ii survivors attended the ceremony which overlooks the memorial atop the sunken "uss arizona." a moment of silence at 7:55 a.m.

that's the exact moment the surprise bombing began. >> 73 years ago. my goodness. >> the guardian, the mayor of paris has called for a ban on diesel cars in the french capital by the year 2020. in the meantime, the mayor is trying to close off some areas of the city to cars. part of the drastic effort to fight pollution. the city plans to limit the number of tourist buses, ban trucks from cutting through paris and introduce electric vans for car sharing services. that is going to go over really well. >> "the new york times." two members of the royal family are waking up in new york city this morning for their first visit here. in town for a three-day visit to meet with officials and hitting up a brooklyn nets game. the empire state building was lit up in union jack colors last night in the couple's honor. >> they're very excited to be here. they're big "morning joe" fans. >> are they going to be on? >> no, they just watch it every day. >> we were booked, we couldn't get them on. >> when i play call the duty on

xbox, a lot of times i will have p. william and he talks to me. >> is he a big trash talker? >> he can't pull it off with that accent but he tries. >> he's in my wednesday night hoops league. >> the chicago tribune. 19 people hospitalized at a furry convention in illinois after what's being called an intentional leak of -- >> that's a furry convention? >> did i get that wrong? okay. officials were called when -- >> it is? >> strong odor -- >> what? >> theyed that ed thathey had building. many still dressed in their furry furry costumes. >> we have a lot of costumes out here with big fluffies could

ste costumes. >> we've been in a huddle to warm this baby. >> thank you, thank you. >> and giving her our jackets and blankets. >> we just told mika what the convention was about. >> costumes kept everybody warm was the good news. >> where you going? hey. come back. >> police still -- >> come back. >> could you check on mika, see if she's okay? she's over there somewhere. still ahead, we have the "morning joe" economic roundtable including which companies fortune magazine is suggesting we invest in next year. we'll be right back with more "morning joe." here's a question for you: when electricity is generated with natural gas instead of today's most used source, how much are co2 emissions reduced? up to 30%? 45%? 60%? the answer is...

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welcome back to "morning joe." 34 past the hour. joining us now for our economic roundtable, cnbc's brian sullivan. hello, brian. >> hello, mika. >> just something's up with him today, joe. >> you don't like him, i understand. >> chairman and ceo of tupperware -- z >> here too. >> it's really great to have you. >> it's a tupperware party. >> it is. >> let's start at 30,000 feet. >> strongest job growth since,

what, 1989 on an annual basis. things have been going well. gas prices coming down, certainly going to help your audience in a big way. gas prices are 60 cents a gallon less than one year ago. fill up a few times a month, starts to make a difference. things have gone well. >> that's pretty crazy. >> editor of "fortune" magazine just walked up. >> we're talk about the big news on friday. obviously, a lot of great news. >> it is good news. solid job growth. this is going to be the best year since 1999. you know, wages have not yet started to rise. >> but they will. >> i think they will. >> i think we're set for a good year. >> obviously, as more people get into the workforce, it's the law of supply and demand. you're going to have more people working. >> the law of supply and demand has been sluggish. >> so far. >> i'm saying, you're getting that, suddenly people will start

competing and the wages hopefully will go up. tupperware. i just found out it's not all about america anymore. where's your number one market? >> indonesia. >> get out. >> largest muslim population in the world. i said we're very proud with regard to women. we have a woman president there. >> tupperware indonesia. >> yeah. >> was there a cultural problem with that for the largest muslim country in the world? >> no, but you -- if you follow some of the issues aaron the world with regard to attitudes about women and religion, you would -- it's something you wouldn't think would happen there but does. interesting, about seven years ago, we had all of our female distributo distributors, we had them bring their husband and we spent a couple hours, talking about the differences in power of women. and the business exploded after

that. >> oh, that's fantastic. what a scene. so allen, you're here with fortune's investors guide. you have the 2015 dos and don'ts of buying. tell me, what should i do? >> it ties into what we were talking about. >> other than investing in it p tupperware. >> it's been a great company. you deserve to be saluted for what you've done in that area. 2015 is shaping up to be a good year in the united states. a lot of the rest of the world looks pretty lousy. i mean, europe is in the soup. japan is in the soup. china's slowing down fairly dramatically. we had this extraordinary period where the emerging markets were pulling the global economy. >> right. >> a couple of years ago, everybody was talking about china, india, brazil. a lot of speed bumps along the way. >> 2015 will not be an emerging markets year. in the long run -- >> i almost feel like we should

have the empire strikes back theme music and the american flag waving. >> i'll tell you something else -- >> do you want to disagree with that because it tupperware is considered the most american company but most of your business -- >> with regard to speed bumps out there. you've still got these undercurrents of first of all population. and population growth rates. u.s. is 5% of the world's population. growth of an emerging middle class. that's not happening here. it's happening there. so in spite of those head winds, it's going to move forward. >> no question, if you take a ten-year time horizon, the emerging markets is where the action is. that's where the new middle class will be. i'm talking 2015. 2015, it looks like it's going to be -- it's going to be a u.s. year. >> yeah. >> that's a positive thing, right? lower gas prices going to help everybody? i really believe -- i know the audience wants to hear this. but i believe it truly.

we are going to finally see wage gains in america next year. i don't know how you guys pay your employees. they're a little bit of a different model than most corporations. >> we have coupons. it's all good. i cut them out on the weekend. >> you should go across the river. >> most of these millennials. millennials are going to be 50% of the workforce by 2020. they're entrepreneurs. 58%. we just did research. they don't want a traditional job. she wants her own business. so it sets p s up a lot of -- ts good for america, the future, starting small businesses. >> let's talk globally. weem be we've been talking about tupperware. let's talk about some of these countries. japan. is it going to be the lost quarter century instead of the lost decade? when does japan turn it around? what's the biggest problem? >> first of all it does look really bad at the moment. but think about the boost

they're going to get from lower oil prices. oil is a bit of a mixed blessing for us because we're now such a big oil producer. japan is a consumer. they've just got a big boost of stimulus from oil. other thing you keep in mine is what's going on in japan is a demographic story. they're just not growing. actually the per person income hasn't been -- >> no, it's a great country by any means. they have a problem. they actually have a holiday where you're supposed to stay home and make babies because they're so desperate for kids. >> you get a coupon for that, joe? >> it's called multitasking. thank you guys so much. we greatly appreciate it. we want to solution you, again. great work. i know mika that's something you'll want to -- >> yeah, i think your work retaining and growing the value of women in your company is

something that others need to look at. it's great to have you on. come back, will you? >> great to be here. still ahead, it's the end of an era in louisiana. why democratic senator mary landrieu lost and what it could mean for the democrats. >> this is the first time, mika, in louisiana, they haven't had a democratic senator in 140 years. >> it's amazing. we'll be right back. and for many, it's a struggle to keep your a1c down.

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in the senate, failing by one vote. landrieu also saw her national support from democrats evaporate. now the party no longer has any senators in the -- >> i saw this statistic yesterday. pretty remarkable. this is focused on the democrats. there's been massive republican turnover also since 2008. but with mary landrieu losing, hatch of the democratic senators who voted -- we, half of the senators who voted for the president's health care plan will not be in the senate next year. >> it is incredible. some have lost their job because of it and some have not. it's a stunning thing. i mean, part of this with the senate as an institution, as you know, there's a lot of people leaving because they're frustrated with the gridlock and they're really unhappy. that's a bipartisan thing. there's also some number of democratic senators who lost their seats in large part because of obamacare. >> if you look at the presidencies of bill clinton and barack obama. you had two guys, very compel

figures that captured the national attention. but if you look at what happened to the parties down ticket over the eight years. republicans taking control of congress for the first time in a generation. and the last eight years for republicans, more democrats and state legislators, governorship, disasters. >> one big difference between the the two is bill clinton cared a lot about down ticket democrats even though he couldn't really help them. the part of the thing with obama is he's not devoted a lot of time or effort. >> self-made millionaire and father of five todd chrisley is here to explain why he knows best. >> i hope he knows i how to teach me how to tie a tie like that. have money with that broker? dad: yeah, 20 something years now. thinking about what you want to do with your money? daughter: looking at options. what do you guys pay in fees? dad: i don't know exactly. daughter: if you're not happy do they have to pay you back? dad: it doesn't really work that way.

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thank you so much. >> come on in. >> i'm so excited. >> lee's a lovely woman but she's very demanding. she knows what she wants. she is a female todd. >> in my car, i've got some things that i will need tonight. would you mind grabbing them for me? >> chase. >> you talking to him, aren't you? >> they'll be happy to get them. >> don't forget my makeup case in the front seat please. >> she's here five minutes and, todd, can you go get my luggage out of the car?

who does that? >> she's pregnant, give her a break. >> here we go with the pregnancy thing again. i've had five and i didn't have one stretch mark or one pain. >> okay. she's pregnant. that does help. that was a scene from the upcoming new episode of the hit show, usa show "chrisley knows best." todd chrisley joins us. it's great to have you back. >> this episode is about the houseguest from hell. >> that's the houseguest from hell. >> it's my wife's best friend who i love dearly but i don't want her staying with me. >> is she trouble? >> she comes in and takes over. so my wife of course doesn't tell me she's coming. and -- >> until the last minute. >> right. >> then it's supposed to be just for a day. and then it ends up being for several days. >> so you're dethroned as king of your own castle. >> she has a baby in his bed. >> oh, my lord. >> you don't even know. >> john, you were asking why lewis is here. houseguest from hell. >> now i get it.

>> i've been holding back this whole time with my explanation. >> so you're saying mika has been flooded with a request for o autographs. we're talking about all these people getting in contact with us because they heard you were going to be on the show. this show has really taken off. your highest ratings ever last week. >> highest numbers that we've had. >> lewis. >> you have a big holiday special. >> we have a huge holiday special coming up on the 17th. it's fun. it was truly one of the most fun episodes that we've had. >> what is a holiday tradition in the chrisley household? >> we have so many traditions that we break. we have, you know, we're always together so, i mean, whether it's the holidays or wherever, but we're always together during the holidays. my wife puts up several trees, one for each child. a lot of shopping. organization. a lot of me going crazy. >> you also have anniversary plans in the season finale,

getting mixed up? >> we do. my mother, who i love dearly -- >> notice how he prefaces that. he's from the south. i tried to explain to my friends from the north that every time, you know, you hear a southerner say "god bless her" -- >> if we say god bless that's really -- >> what does bless his heart mean? >> bless his heart means that we feel you're stupid. >> bless your heart. >> such a nice way. >> i'll confess i've never watched the show. >> what? >> what's your name again? >> i don't want to be on your list. i'm interested in two facts. one of which is that you select and approve the clothing of your family every day, right? >> i want to know my girls are not putting everything they have on view. >> then the other thing is you put tracking device on your kid's cars? >> i do, because i believe children, when they turn

teenagers, are just liars. >> isn't that a crazy control freak? >> it's not a control thing, it's about me having -- it's about me not feeling like i'm so going crazy not knowing where my child is or if they're in a bad place. >> that's another way of saying control freak. >> they're liars? >> i think all children are natural born liars. i think when they come to us, we build that. and i want to make sure my children know that before you commit that sin of lying to me, i already know that you're going to lie so don't do it. >> why do you put trackers on their phones? >> we have that. >> you could put a chip under their skin too. >> he's done that too. >> thank god i'm down to only having two in the house right now. >> how's this -- obviously, this has changed your life and changed your family's life. you guys still seem to have it all together. i suppose the tell-all books will come out. >> what are you going to tell that hasn't already been told? if there's something to tell, todd will tell it. i think we've done very well.

we don't -- we have our moments. either family has their moments. but what are you going to do? you're going to live through it. good lord gives you another day. you're going to rise above it and keep moving. i tell my children, to whom much is given, much is required. you've been blessed with this opportunity. take advantage of it. but be respectful of it. >> exactly. you can catch a new episode of "chrisley knows best" tomorrow night at 10:00 p.m. eastern on usa. todd chrisley, thank you so much. >> congratulations on your continued success. >> got to put a tracking device on lewis. >> brandi, with an "i." ♪ in your eyes i'm meteorologist bill karins. all eyes on the coastal storm

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enough and it's probably too late for us. >> we do need to sleep. >> what kind of a -- >> i have nothing else to say after that. that's horrible. you chased mika off the set again. we thank you for your patience today, we really do. we appreciate your wat watching. it means the world. >> you like furries, don't you? >> you're a good guy. if it's way too early, it's "morning joe." next is "the rundown." that's a live picture at the white house where a royal visit is in store later this morning. prince william minus his pregnant duchess will meet with president obama today. good morning, i'm jose diaz-balart. we'll watch that royal visit. we begin this monday with very serious business facing the president. at home, imcombination, the threat of government shutdown, just three days away. a report on torture that's got washington bracing for the worst. overseas, there's isis and afghanistan. as well n