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new details in this weekend's failed mission to rescue an american journalist held by isis in yemen. attorney general eric holder issues new rules to curb racial profiling. we're following new fallout for rolling stone. in maryland, crews search for survivors after a small plane crashed into a d.c. suburb, killing at least three people on board. we start today with the latest on the american photojournalist who died during a hostage rescue mission in yemen. the body of luke somers will return to the u.s. tomorrow as they piece together how the militants were tipped off to location of navy s.e.a.l.s. nbc news jim miklaszewski is live at the pentagon. what do we know about what happened and what went wrong? >> u.s. military and d.o.d.
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officials we're talking to say this is a tragedy, the death of the two hostages that was apparently unavoidable. after all, the al qaeda there in yemen had threatened in a videotape to kill the american luke somers by the end of the day saturday, so, there was a -- there was a real urgency to try to rescue him. and they tell us also, they were unaware that the south african pierre korkie was there as well. they knew there was another hostage there, but they didn't know it was korkie. this leads to the tragedy. because korkie's caregive organization out of south africa had actually negotiated his relief by paying a $200,000 ransom that was to occur the very next morning. but they were sworn to secrecy. they could not tell the u.s. military that korkie was there and that that swap had been arranged. and the u.s. military couldn't inform anybody of their operations for fear that it
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would be compromised. so, it was, you know, unfortunately -- once things got rolling, it appeared to be tragic and somewhat inevitable. >> nbc's jim miklaszewski, thank you very much. in the next 24 hours what's believed to be a bombshell report from the senate intelligence committee will be released. it details allegations of torture and whether the cia lied about its use as part of the war on terror during the bush administration. nbc's kelly o'donnell is live on capitol hill. it's been some time in coming getting this report released. what do we know about timing and about potential objections to its release? >> reporter: we know the white house now says that it will be released tomorrow. and that is the domain of the chairwoman of the senate intelligence committee, dianne feinstein. she has been working on this along with her colleagues for years. i've been talking to staffer who is have had many late nights working weekends, lots of extra hours, put on this voluminous
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report, part which of will be made public. there's been an ongoing sort of intense negotiation about what should be redacted, what should be permitted to be made public not to expose sources, methods, assets the u.s. may have but at the same time being able to put accountability and transparency on this long-running program of what the cia did known as enhanced interrogation techniques at the time. critics have called it torture. who was responsible for this. what did the cia agents say at the time. were they truthful, not truthful? lots of potential things in this that could incite violence. some republicans on the senate intelligence committee have said, don't release certain parts of this because it could trigger violence, especially because the underlying nature of this is so exposes ive. at the same time, democrats have been pressing including secretary of state john kerry who called dianne feinstein and said he wanted her to be considerate about the tiling of the release given enough time
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for embassies around the world and so forth to have extra security. so, the white house now says it will happen tomorrow. much of what's been in the report has been known, but this is one of those things that will bring an end to the chairmanship of dianne feinstein because republicans will be in charge in january. they may have looked at this quite differently as to what could be released. it will be an important way to look at that program and how it -- how it has a place in what was then the war on terror and the ongoing battle swres now. joy? >> nbc's kelly o'donnell on capitol hill, thanks very much. and do stay with "the reid report" tomorrow for complete coverage. release of the cia torture report, including reactions from former cia operative valerie plame. let's go to the justice department where attorney general eric holder is rolling out new guidelines. the policy five years in the making bans profiling based on gender, national origin, religion, sexual orientation and gender identity by several agencies. attorney general eric holder talked about the new guidelines
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earlier today. >> when you look at this whole question of racial profiling, as i said in the statement we have released, it can be misguided. it can be, i think, ineffective. given the limited resources that we have given the opponents we face certainly here and overseas, we can't afford to profile, to do law enforcement on the basis of stereotypes. >> nbc justice department pete williams joins me now. is this a total ban, if not, who's in and who's out in terms of federal agencies? >> it's not a total ban any more than the racial profiling ban that the attorney general was talking about was either. of course, racial profiling was banned in 2003. this will not apply to federal officer who is do airport screening or immigration laws at the forder or secret service employees doing the protective mission. of course, this only applies --
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the justice department only has this to apply to the federal law enforcement agencies. it doesn't apply to state and local police who do most of the stops of this kind. will pull people over for traffic stops and so forth. the attorney general's urging local police to follow these same rules and hope the federal government will be a model here. but by its own terms, this new policy only applies at the federal level. >> and does the a.g.'s office have any authority to push beyond just making suggestions to local law enforcement or is it just a suggestion, no strings attached? >> it's just the power of the office. just trying to urge local law enforcement to do the same. of course, if the federal government moves one way and local police don't, that raises something of a political imperative for local police to do the same. they're not required to. the question is, will this build more of a public push to have local police do it as they did with racial profiling. >> nbc pete williams, thank you
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very much. meanwhile, new protests in new york today in the wake of the recent grand jury decision not to indict a police officer in the killing of eric garner. this morning demonstrators stormed onto the verrazano bridge blocking traffic. last night in new york city the protest reached into the toy gun section of toys "r" us. ♪ don't shoot don't shoot >> and the protests eventually spilled out onto the streets of times square. then after a mostly peaceful start in berkeley, california, on sunday, protests in the college town turned violent. demonstrators smashed store windows, started fires and threw rocks at police. nbc's trymaine lee is covering the protests coast to coast. these protests not slowing down at all. they seem to be intensifying. >> i can remember months ago having a conversation in ferguson with one of the organizers of the big coalitions and we wondered if this would be sustainable or not. months later you've had the eric garner decision about the grand jury not to indict the officer.
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you've had row main brisban killed in phoenix, tamir rice killed in cleveland. now organizers of these groups have more fuel, people connecting the dots. we met with protesters from ferguson who were here trading game plans with people in new york city. as time goes on, as these cases continue to crop up around the country, this movement is expanding. you even had protests in paris and anchorage, alaska. these aren't places that has this kind of foundation of activism. the movement has no sign of slowing down. in fact, they're kind of growing and expanding. >> i'm intrigued by this protest in times square and the times square toys "r" us. any specific significance by protesters to be in that toy gun section. two people, one man and one child, both killed while holding toy guns. >> certainly. it harkens back to the john crawford case earlier in ohio where there was a gentleman who
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picked up a toy gun off the shelf and then another person in the store called police saying he was aiming the gun at folks. within a matter of minutes he was shot down and killed by police. and so the significance is that not only in these street interactions with police that so many encounter, but also in these toys, this air soft pellet gun with tamir rice and john crawford, speaks to dangerous encounters even when there seems to be no lethal involvement at all. >> trymaine lee, thanks for following up. coming up, should the u.s. be undertaking high-risk rescue missions overseas? we'll dig into the debate over paying ransom and whether there are other options available to try to secure freedom for americans held hostage. still ahead as protests against police killings continue across the country, we'll break down new poll numbers that show a sharp racial divide when it comes to police and the criminal justice system 37 the holiday season is here, which means it's time for the volkswagen sign-then-drive event. for practically just your signature,
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. take a closer look at the failed rescue attempt of luke somers and the debate it stirred over the stated refusals by u.s. and great britain to pay ransom for hostages. somers' body will be returned to united states tomorrow after al qaeda operatives fatally wounded him. also fatally wounded during the raid was pierre korkie. she says her husband was days away from being released after she and several others negotiated his freedom in exchange for $200,000. military and pentagon officials tells nbc news they had no knowledge of a negotiated release nor of korkie's present in that camp. shane harris is the senior
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security correspondent for "the daily beast." thank you for being here. i want to start with you, shane, because have you a provocatively titled article called, did u.s. policy get luke somers killed? the subhead of that is the policy not to pay ransom, the u.s. and uk are left with the only option of risky military operations and the question being asked is, should that change? in your view, do you take it should change? >> i don't take a personal view, but a lot of people think if not paying ran somes we should get more creative and innovative about tools and techniques, even diplomacy to get these people out. i think we should note the white house agrees with that. the president authorized recently or ordered a comprehensive review of our efforts in the u.s. government to get hostages freed. it's a recognition you don't see enough cord nation across the countries. it boils down to military rescue
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options often being the only thing the united states is left with. >> is it that binary, either you pay to get the hostages back or you go in and do a risky operation? is there another way, a risky third way? >> this these situations these are very complex, very dangerous situations. you know, there is months of intelligence gather iing they jt go in and try to rescue a hostage. the u.s. has had a policy of no negotiations with terrorists. a group like kqap which has attempted to carry out deadly -- potentially very devastating attack on the u.s. that would have killed hundreds if not thousands of civilians, a group like this does not recognize human dignity or the human life, especially of an american. there probably would have been no guarantee he would have been released even if the united states negotiated just so the group can claim a media or a pr
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victory. in these situations, it's either rescue the hostage or let him be because we cannot negotiate with that terrorist. >> shane to come back to you. mike rogers, chairman of the house intelligence committee, this is what he had to say about the -- even though you ar gooi -- argued it siblt just binary. >> when you pay ransom, you get more kidnappings. that's what we saw across africa. we're certainly seeing it in yemen as well. >> you're seeing a lot of these groups, not just isis but other competing groups are starting to make real money off these kinds of kidnappings. there's a recent u.n. report that states in the past four years, aqim isis and aqap has made $75 million down to $20 million. they're actually bringing in significant sums of money. isn't it the case the united states has a strong, vested
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interest in not making this even a more lucrative industry? >> that is the policy, of course. chairman rogers is echoing what the administration begins as well. if you start paying for americans to get free, more will be taken. if the hostages held by isis, most who have been killed are americans and british citizens. it is a terrible predicament we find ourselves in. i don't think anybody is suggesting the united states should do something to condone or encourage what's happening here. at the same time, i think there are middle grounds that can be found and sources i talk to will start by saying, you could get someone in the government by coordinating all these different elements we have from the fbi, cia, white house. in the case of the isis hostages who have been held,there hasn't been a lot of coordination. we even see in this rescue attempt to try to free mr. somers, we weren't even
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aware what one of our allies were doing to try to free him. coordination can help. >> shane, by its very nature, wouldn't it have been impossible to coordinate in that case because the people negotiates to give $0 -- $200,000 were sworn to secrecy. >> i would hope that the fbi sirnlt certainly, which is the lead hostage negotiations team in these kind of cases, would know the nationality of other people in those places and would try to make efforts if there were any independent things going on. this is not perfect. we should say we don't know all the facts as well. it is the case because we don't have good coordination in our own country and we don't pay ransoms, we're frequently left with military interventions as really only being the decisive option we have.
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they're fraught with risk and frequently fail. >> what are your thoughts? >> when it comes to united states national security, intelligence gathering is key. also when it comes to intelligence sharing, we would be afraid of compromising our own intelligence and our own processes by leveraging such information and vice versa. i feel other governments would feel would be compromising their own mission by leveraging this information to other countries like the united states. i think the fbi or other agencies potentially negotiating for the release of a hostage, they would have to go through a lot more than the country or the government where the hostages are being held. something like dealing with tribes that have some sort of connection with terrorist groups, maybe scholars of some sort. these nuances cannot be done,
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cannot be accomplished, cannot be achieved except with a very thorough policy. luke somers had only three days to live. we had to act. we acted about -- towards the last day and they would have probably executed him the next day anyway. >> very quickly, governments that are actually paying ransom to get their countrymen back, are they seeing a reduction in the number of kidnappings of their citizens? >> i don't believe so. i think it's not an increase because they would view this as a lucrative business. it has been a lucrative business for groups like isis and aqam. we've seen it before and probably will continue to happen. >> thavengs for being here. now let's look at three things to know on this monday. a massive apartment fire in downtown los angeles brought traffic to a standstill on two major frees this morning. the seven-story complex was under construction when it went up in flames overnight. it took more than 250 firefighters to knock out the blaze. >> we have no injuries, the
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cause is under investigation and the loss is being tabulated. we stichlt it will be in the mul mul multimillions. search screws are scouring a neighborhood outside washington, d.c. where a small plane crashed. three people aboard the twin-engine jet when it went down less than a mile away from montgomery county air park. three people are unaccounted for right now and two homes also caught fire. senator mary landrieu lost her runoff election this weekend. a seat she's held since 1994 and the democrats have held since the late 1800s. republican congressman bill cassidy will take over in january, giving the gop a gain of nine total seats in the midterms. ♪
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institute mother of tamir rice is calling for the conviction of her 12-year-old son. police say he refused to put his hands up and reached into his waistband for what appeared to be a handgun but instead it was a pellet gun. in a news conference this morning samarra rice spoke out about that day and she describes how she felt. >> i really thought it was planned, like, joking around. but i seen the seriousness in their face and it scared me. my child doesn't do that type of thing. i don't allow that type of toy in my house, around him, period. >> rashad rabin son and eugene o'donnell is a former new york city police officer and professor at jon jay college. we were talking before we came back from the break about the fact that color of change has built up this tremendous
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infrastructure you guys exist at this time, is actually a pretty significant thing. but you're in communication, that means, with a lot of people who are reacting what's happening to these young black men and boy. how are people interacting with color of change, what do they expect to happen in the wake of tamir rice's death? >> people expect real change to happen at this point. over and over again we see these moments and people are angry and they're tired. they're tired of continuing to show up and demand justice. they're tired of marching in these moments. so, we've elected a president twice. we have a justice department that's supposed to be on our side. and we have taken over the streets. these protests happening all around the country, that are local groups, that are young people, not part of any organization, that have made this a moment, they also deserve national demands. we put a national demands on the table. some that need the department of justice to move forward.
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some that are going to need bipartisan legislation. we can't keep having these tamir rice moments over and over again and expect our communities to be safe and except law enforcement to trust each other. >> eugene, same sort of question to you. what do police officers in these kinds of situations expect to happen. what definitely appears to a lot of the public is that what officers involved in these type of shootings expect nothing. they are confident in these kind of situations, they can get on the phone with their union rep, work it out, have a prosecutor on their side. the police officers really don't expect anything negative to happen to them when they get involved in one of these shootings. would that be accurate? certainly some police people must think like that. i hope it's not a lot. police get this broad protection. they should be so far away from invoking that protection on any given day that they never even think about using it.
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there is a concern people have. in this case, like cleveland, like one very important training point. i know people think training sometimes gets oversaid. i don't think it does. police officers show up see someone brandishing a weapon, don't legally, ethically, morally have a right to fire. they are to make an assessment, put themselves in a position where they can protect themselves. only if you have an honest believe that someone is going to kill you, seriously hurt you or someone else, it's a very important point to make and well-regulated police departments have rules that make shootings very, very rare events. some other departments, you see people invoking these protections that should be rarely used. >> if we could put up the national institutes of justice have it written out when force should be used.
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it is -- that's all well and good. in new york they have a rule against using the chokehold but they still do it. don't police officers know even if they violate the rules, the rules as written in the new york city police manual, even if they violate the rules, don't police officers know nothing will happen to them? >> it's more difficult than it looks. maybe we're making it too difficult. you have police officers in physical fights with people with not a lot of direction and how to resolve those issues. even with the chokehold in new york, the department will look at that rule again and do something better than that rule so they can actually -- because what we're finding is there are violations of the rule and they're not being punished, which tells me there is something not happening there. they need to make it happen because they need to not have a repeat of hands on someone's neck. the ordinary course of policing, we want nonviolent solutions.
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we want verbal de-escalation, we to want stay away from the minimal law protection --. it's not just anybody. it's when the folks are black or brown that justice -- >> i want to get to that point. nbc news and maris poll found stark differences in the way african-americans and non-african-americans see the police. 78% of white americans have high degree of confidence police won't use excessive force. only a third of african-americans. 63% of african-americans have some confidence or very little confidence. going on, do police apply different standards to african-americans and whites? 82% of african-americans agree with that statement. only 39% of white americans. finally, the competence in the legal system in the wake of these two big grand jury decisions in ferguson and in staten island.
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african-americans, only 9% saw their confidence increase 70% of african-americans say their confidence increase. we have a justice system that is clearly seen differently by black and white americans. >> and there is absolutely no incentive across the country for prosecutors to indict or to bring charges against police officers. the system right now is stacked. when you asked earlier, what are people expecting? we need a new system. when police officers are supposed to be charged or they've done something, whether the community needs to hold them accountable, the system has to look different. prosecutors every single day need to work with police officers. they need them to get convictions. they need tight partnerships. then they need to turn around and prosecute them. whether it was ferguson or new york, they could have put a special prosecutor in place. but in both places, democratic governors didn't put special prosecutors in place. there was no political incentive, right you?
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don't to want look soft on crime. so, in all of these situations, we had political decisions being made. how do we ensure justice is in place? >> last question to you, eugene, unless this gets out of the hands of the local prosecutor, unless there's a special prosecutor in cases of a police shooting of a civilian, isn't it the case the police union, the relationships with prosecutors will prevent police officers ever really being held accountable for police shoot sngz zoolt grand jury isn't a good process for this. you need transparency, disclosure, details as to why these things happen. maybe a special prosecutor. believe it or not, i don't know if that will change the outcome. no matter the politics, where you are in the country, police people don't get indicted much less convicted. i definitely think this vacuum, this informational vacuum you see in staten island is not helpful. people are left to wonder, how
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can this grand jury do this? it's more predictable than exceptional, regrettably. >> it's absolutely repredictable, which is why we're seeing the polling we do. thank you both for being here. coming up, more fallout for "rolling stone" and that article detailing an alleged gang rape at the university of virginia. why the magazine is quietly changing its story yet again. many americans who have prescriptions fail to stay on them. that's why we created programs which encourage people
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since admitting to discrepancies in the story on friday, "rolling stone" has come under fire, both for its journalistic practices and for the way the initial apology appeared to some to blame jackie for those discrepancies. separately the fraternity has rebutted several of the article's claims, even the that there was a social event the night jackie claims she was raped. the education reporter at "the washington post" and irin has been following this closely for msnbc. taylor, to your knowledge, is the story, the fundamental account that jackie told are the rolling stone," how much of is that has been verified, in your reporting? >> we've reported so far the fraternity says there was not a party on the weekend of september 28, 2012. in addition, no members of the fraternity were employed at the aquatic fitness center at time
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the alleged occurred. >> have you been able to independently verify those two things occur? can you confirm there was no party and confirm their members were employed by that facility. >> the fraternity provided the first two accounts, the details of that. of course, we're looking to confirm all details. >> irin, therein lies the details. you could have a party at the frat and not written down to be independently verified. so this remains a story where every detail is subject -- >> my understanding is the washington post did reach out to another person who jackie named and that that person belonged to a different fraternity. i would love to hear from taylor on that. i think the broader question is, did "rolling stone" do its due diligence? what did they owe to their readers as well as their source? i think there are serious questions about the fact that they threw their victim, the source, under the bus and blames
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her for what appears to be a lapse in fact-checking. two, they haven't been very transparent about what their process is in reporting that story. >> to your point of throwing their source under the bus. here's the original apology, we have come to the conclusion that our trust in her, meaning jackie, was displaced. they've now revised this to, these mistakes are on "rolling stone" not on jackie. and i think that has struck a lot of people as an about-face that didn't even have to happen because it appears what "rolling stone" essentially did was throw all of the blame on their source. when you went back and looked at this story, was it your sense that jackie misrepresented the story or the story wasn't fully reported by the reporter at "rolling stone". >> when we first saw the story, we saw sexual assault allegations on a campus close to d.c. our editor decided we should look into them independently.
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i met with jackie and she told me a very compelling story of her sexual assault. through the rest of our reporting we found inconsistency of what was first put into the "rolling stone" story. >> people are concerned that this story is going to make it appear, more than it actually is -- 20% of women report some sort of sexual assault on campus. the statistic of numbers making that up, what would the percentage of that? do you know that stat? >> there's been a comprehensive review of all of the available studies and consensus researchers have come to is about 5.9% of all reported allegations of sexual assault are false. that's a very small percentage. >> there has been some concern, people like shonna thomas concerned there would be chilling effect on those reported. jackie wouldn't have made it into that statistic because she didn't report this assault.
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>> to my knowledge, jackie did not go to the police. she reported it confidentially to a university administrator. she didn't ask to be the spokesperson of campus rape. the question we need to ask ourselves as readers is why did this story blow up and others didn't? it's a deeply shocking story. it's not the only story of campus sexual assault and what appears to be an epidemic, both of campus rape and institutional indifference. that piece still remains regardless of what happens in this individual story. >> taylor, in fact, did not the "rolling stone" piece include the information there was several stories they had to choose from. this writer picked jackie's story but that there were more stories that they could have reported. this is just the one they focused on. is that correct? >> the people i spoke to who appear advocates at uva have spoken to to many people who are victims and survivors of sexual assaults. it's clear these kind of things happen at college campuses nationwide. >> so, i think that is the concern a lot of people have. this is one story but the focus
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has taken the attention off a larger issue of campus sexual assault. do you feel that is what's happening or are we just really focused on a journalistic breach of, i guess, journalistic ethics. >> there is already a group of people out there who want to believe this is not an epidemic. they want to believe women lie about sexual assault, women are not credible and they are making it up because they regret sex or want attention. unfortunately, this falls into those stereotypes. again, we are still learning what actually happened there. we have not excluded that this young woman was sexually assaulted. women who met her say she was traumatized by something. it's wrong to say that the entire idea of an issue of sexual assault on campus is overblown. >> taylor, are you as a washington post continuing to pursue jackie's story? >> absolutely. as reporters our duty is to make sure we get as close to the facts of any case. >> taylor and irin, thanks for
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the new nbc/marist poll shows a sharp divide on policing. definitely important as the country considers the public policy response to the incidents and grand jury decisions that have sparked and continue to fuel nationwide protests. not only are there differences, by race, as it turns out, on how much confidence americans have in police to not use excessive force and to treat black and white citizens equally and how much confidence white and nonwhite americans have in the justice system. there are also sharp differences by age. the pom found 1 in 5 americans have very little confidence in their local police not to use excessive force.
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3 % have a great deal of certainty. young americans came up 12 points lower on the great deal of confidence measure than those aged 30 to 44. and 16 points lower than those aged 60 and above. and with fully a quarter of nonwhite americans expressing very little confidence in the police, including 23% of nonwhite parents, it stands to reason that the nation's police departments face a significant challenge building that trust. not just among black and latino americans but among younger americans who are disproportionately nonwhite. on the question of whether police officers treat black and white americans equally, no group other than republicans express a great deal of confidence that equal treatment is happening. among the youngest americans polled, just 34% expressed a great deal of confidence in the reality of equal treatment by police, while 43% express just a fair amount or very little
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confidence. meanwhile, the grand jury decisions in the eric garner and darren wilson killings have decreased confidence in police except for republicans. 53% of democrats and 56% of young americans say they've lost confidence in systems as have 70% of african-americans. 57% of latinos and just over a third of white americans. some police departments are recognizing that the challenge in the country now is not as some political leaders have stated, to rebuild trust between police departments and communities. but, rather, as philadelphia police commissioner charles ramsey said on thursday, for police to do the building by first recognizing communities of color feel that the police service they are getting is not fair and not impartial. they lost faith in us to a large extent and we've got to restore that. until police departments themselves do that or they're made to by a higher governmental authority, don't expect the
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marches or the distrust to stop. and that wraps things up for "the reid report." i'll see you tomorrow at 2 p.m. eastern. "the cycle" is up next. happy monday, cyclists. what have you got going on? >> we have a lot going on. a little birdie told me it's a special day in msnbc world. >> happy birthday, joy! >> thank you, guys. you are fabulous and wonderful. let's hear about "the cycle." >> we'll talk about will and kate coming to america. we'll talk about 2016 coming eventually to america. we'll talk about obama's place in 2014 and i'm going to talk on a very serious note about how to talk to children about eric garner and michael brown and those sort of racial situations that we constantly have going on. >> i know you have two little ones, toure, it's a shame we have to do but a very important conversation to have. "the cycle" is up next. 3 gigs .?
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he was an innocent individual who was murdered by aqap militants. and the president ordered two special operations raids to try to secure his rescue. unfortunately, while those raids were carried out flawlessly, even under very significant time constants, mr. somers was not successfully rescued. >> cycling, the bochd raid to try to free american hostage luke somers. i'm toure as we come on the air. more questions than answered following a rescue attempt that ended up with a dead american and a dead south african hostage who is possibly hours away from being released. it all started late friday night. three dozen highly skilled american navy s.e.a.l.s stormed a compound in yemen, second
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high-stakes attempt to free somers. somers was there but something tipped off al qaeda. a shootout erupted. the terrorists shot somers and the other hostage. they were clinging to life when s.e.a.l.s evacuated them to safety but both died of their injuries. somers' body will be returned home for burial tomorrow. also south african teacher pierre korkie. the american ambassador to south africa says washington did not know what the progress of those negotiations. all this happening as american embassies and military bases around the world are on high alert. senate dems are set to release an in-depth report on the cia's use of torture under president obama but there are fears that's what's in that report might provoke violence overseas. those details are due out tomorrow. six guantanamo bay detainees have been transferred to uruguay, the largest transfer