tv The Rachel Maddow Show MSNBC December 11, 2014 9:00pm-10:01pm PST
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>> the photo that circulated was in fact one offer former classmates that said he six yea and didn't know her in high school, and at that, he did not know her very well sxlchlt that is one of the more troubling details in the report. thank you, both. >> a that is all in for tonight, and the "rachel maddow show" starts now. so we got into the whisker of another government shutdown tonig tonight. and the government was due to shutdown at midnight eastern time, and if the congress did not find a way to fund it. we well, at 9:30 east rn tiern after a day of high drama and uncertainty, they did finally find the votes to keep the lights on, but it is what is known in the business as a total mess. . >> nobody wants to shutdown the government. everybody here wants to have an
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answer and we could have an answer. all of the opposite side has to do is to stop supporting a bill that would allow the biggest banks in america to rip off the people one more time. with we bailed out the rich estebank estebanks this in america with the people's money. and the people do not want that anymore. i am the ranking member of the financial services committee, and i worked on dodd frank, and they are trying to undermine dodd frank and trying to get rid of dodd frank piece by piece and we have to fight it everyday, and i am not going to let the people down can. the democrats are not going to let the people down and we are not going to vote for anything that gives the the store to the b biggest banks in america one more time. >> we should not allow the p poison pills one more time. hold your nose and pass the bill. >> it puts a big bow on the holiday giftt for the wall street contributors who get
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special treatment in provisions of the bill. once again here in the holiday season, it is all about the stuffing the silk stockings. and these people want to gamble with our money. when these big banks win, they get to keep all of the money, but when they lose, they look to the taxpayer to bail them out. >> i rise in support of the bill. notwithstanding my vigorous objection to the two provisions. i rise because i frankly think that pursuing c.r.s, continuing resolutions, on a continuing basis is harmful to our economy, harmful to the growth in jobs, harmful to our national security, and i regret, i regret that the homeland security bill has not been included for a year as well. we undermined national security by that limitation. but never theless, in a world of alternatives, i have concluded ha that it is better for us to
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pass this cromnibus than it is to defeat it. so i urge the members to vote for the cromnibus tonight. >> and nobody knew if it was going to pass tonight or if it would. and so it did by a squeak. and the democrats fighting with most obviously with one another. and the house democrats wanted to vote with the republicans on this, and the house democrats felt that the republicans had pulled a fast one and no mood to help john bay thor to make up votes that he could not gett from his own side, and the democrats whipped the vote against it, and in the end, the democrats did provide enough votes for john boehner to get it through. and joining us now after a dramatic night is steve israel of new york, the outgoing member of the house campaign committee
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they lose a lot of their own members. they knew that was true heading into it. they didn't make that much of an effort to hold on to their own members before today when they, i think, panicked a little bit. what do you think was enough to turn more than 50 democrats around to vote for this thing today? was it the pressure from the white house or what were you hearing from your colleagues when you were asking them for a no vote? >> i think it was a combination of things. when th many of my colleagues thought that the individual pieces of the budget were good enough to kind of hold our nose on those two onerous provisions. i respect the view but fundamentally don't agree with them. the message was we pass budgets that reward the rich, reward donors, reward financial
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institutions and democrats actually are the ones who enable us. it is one thing to bailout, the big donors but we bailed out the republicans by providing votes and i think it was a fundamental mistake. >> i can hear the frustration and emotion in your voice when you talk about it and you can see it building all day with both the work that was being done, tone of voice when people took to the floor of the house, and once the vote happened, i have to ask you sort of in all candor, how damaged is the relationship between house democrats and the white house? because of this? as part of what you're angry at the white house and their influence here? i. >> in all candor, i think there is a lot of annoyance with the white house. however when we come back and start the new congress in january, we're just going to need to regroup and stand shoulder to shoulder because these republicans in the house and with new majority in the
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senate are giving middle class and working families a war every single time to the gavel is banged. and we need to stick a together and defend our constituents from what will be a daily assault by these republicans. today there was friction. no question about it. but on january 6th, we will just need to stand shoulder to shoulder and define ourselves as democrats. and define ourselves as willing to defend the middle class working families. that's what makes us democrats and we have to act as democrats going forward. >> congressman steve israel from new york. after a very long night. thank you for your time. i appreciate it. >> i want it bring into the conversation another member of congress who voted no tonight on this. congressman from maryland, congressman, thanks for being with us. i appreciate it. >> why did you vote no and did you expect the vote tonight when
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it came down? >> i voted no because i felt that we shouldn't be giving another sweetheart deal to wall street and to the big banks. of course a provision in there that did that. at the same time, a wall street give way. we have a provision that allows the weal edgiest to give more money to the political process. so at at time when the public wants to see us listen to them, and count their voice, under fact we are going in the opposite direction towards the powerful and the special interest. that's why i voted against the bill. >> in terps of the drama today, there was a procedural vote where zero democrats voted with the republicans to move ahead in a procedural level. at that point i think a real wake-up call for a lot of people that democrats might stand might stand together thon and deprive the votes to pass this thing.
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what happened to the procedure yl vote and tonight that put more than 50 democrats on the republican side wlet final vote tally came down? >> of course, at the procedure all point you're talking about, it was still possible this they voted the rule. the majority would go back to rules committee and maybe take out those two particularly offensive provisions to democrats. so i'm not surprised that all of the democrats stood together at that moment in time because it was a way procedurally to maybe open the bill back up. once that didn't happen and you got to the substance of the underlying bill and people vote on a variety bases and there was some democrats who felt they should support it but the great majority of democrats pose it. i think that was the right provision to take. the great majority of people who supported this in the end were the republicans and i think they show that they stand with wall street and big banks. and for the big donors out
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there. and not with everyday citizens across the country. and i think that they will learn a lesson from that over time because the public is angry. the public wants to be heard. they want us to turn our attention to that. >> ongresman from maryland, thanks for joining us tonight, sir. i know it has been a long stressful day. i appreciate it, sir. >> thanks very much. >> again, 57 democrats ended up voting yes on this thing. 67 republicans voted no. so there were more republican defections than democratic defections. but they needed democratic votes to get pass and they got the pass. it is kind of amazing be with right? not even six weeks since the last election and we already tonight got within a couple hours of another government shutdown. tonight. and you are a country with a national press that is focus owned washington, right? for all of the saturation level coverage that we get of all these things in war politics.
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what happened tonight is something that beltway press totally missed. they have no idea any drama was coming to night. they've been assuring us for weeks there would be no worry. speaker john baner said, listen, i will make sure there is no shutdown. oh, they have a plan. they are sure this won't happen. but if you don't write down what they say and look around to the political activity around you, this is something that more people should have seen coming. first thing this would be a dramatic thing or possibly a shutdown, first sign there was real drama here came from the right. once the republicans started explaining to reporters what they were do and playcate their angry tea party base and
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definitely steer clear of government shutdown, as soon as they floated basics of that plan, the right got really mad. in way that was visible. the last government shutdown was about year ago and republicans in congress explained their brilliant plan for not having a government shutdown this time around. heritage foundation went nuts. they said it was a blank check for president obama's lawless amnesty. whether or not you agree with that, whether or not that makes sense to you, that was their line. very hostile line on this. that's what they've been telling their folks. that's what they've been telling members of congress that want good score cards from them. a very focal position. they would be happy to have a shutdown and did not do what the republican leadership wanted to do. it was obvious. also obvious on right wing radio. there are all these assurances how no one wants a government
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shutdown. no one, left, right or center, wants a shutdown. everyone agrees it is a bad idea. on right wing talk radio since the election they've been lusting after a shutdown. saying it is not a bad idea at all. how republicans shut down the government last year and won this last election really big. so it is not something that hurts republicans at all raen they don't want to do what the republican leader shedship said they ought to do. and if that cost a government shutdown, then that's fine. in addition that we have had fun on this show talking about signs on the conservative blocks that things were not going as well and as tightly as the beltway press said it would go. one of the more conservative blogs organized a campaign. to mail balls, balls physical balls like super ball webs r, r balls, any kind of balls, they
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want it mail balls to house is speaker john boehner to symbolize their plan. they thought he was wussing out. he had this plan it keep the lights on, they disagree. and just last week more v.a. very obvious signs that there was something going o wrong on the right side of the political spectrum in terms of this being an easy plan to get this done with no drama. john boehner had this plan, to figure out thousand bring crazies, super right wingers and bring them along with him and this plan would work and everything was fine and everything would be quiet. but then that very chilly press conference with ted cruz, michelle bachman, and saying any member of congress that went along with what john boehner wanted to do, and voted, any member of congress that did that, should not be allowed to take the oath of office in
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january. so all along they said it would be fine. don't worry about it, it is not hard to pass. so there are signs on the right it would be hard to pass. also signs at john boehner's office that it would be hard to pass. we know the time line now. government is due to run out of money as of tonight and that's a scheduled thing. and as we have been approaching this deadline which you see from a mile off there's these signs starting like, roughly a week ago, that maybe even in john boehner's office this plan was not looking as easy as it was supposed to be. first we were told that bill to avoid the shutdown was definitely filed monday morning. sort of pushing it ail there bit since the shutdown would be thursday but that gives them plenty of time to get passed in a house and before the government is shut down thursday night. so told us monday morning, kind of last minute, but monday morning.
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monday morning came and went and said oh, okay late monday. then late monday came and went and then told us first thing tuesday morning. and then first thing tuesday morning came and went and they told us it would be later in the day on tuesday. still later in the day came and went and no bill. what's going on? thursday's the shut down. thursday afternoon, still no bill. yeah, tuesday at almost 9:00 p.m. they finally dropped it. everyone sat down read it like a 1600-page bill. as the beltway press is combing through it publishing their lists about what is under it and this is the plan and it will pass, easy peasy. and there is a whole new raft of signs that this plan is maybe not going to work. that things are not okay. and this time those signs were coming from the republican side. not the right flank of the republican party. all those problems do still stand but now in addition, once we got the bill, there is all
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these problems on the democratic side. when the democrats saw what republicans had actually filed, after all those delays, late at night, when they finally filed this thing on tuesday, by the time they read it, then went back to work wednesday morning a lot of democrats had their hair on fire because republicaned had stuck a bunch of stuff into it at last minute democrats said they had no idea what's coming. and stuff that they really substantively don't like. particularly an issue around big banks and putting taxpayers on the hook for bailing them out with risky stuff that brought us the financial collapse. so democrats when they sue what was in the bill started to bail. and this is where the two different problems that beltway never care bed became one big problem. that looked tonight like it was maybine going to be another government shutdown. the fight on the right is what started it. they knew they add problem with the right flank. knew they were upsetting the conservative organizations. tea party folks.
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that part of the party won vote for this plan. they knew they would have a bunch of defections. the reason they didn't care very much about that and told the beltway press not to worry about that, and the dealt way went along with that is because the they figured this took for granted any votes they lost from their own party they could more than make up for with democratic votes. they figured, eh, we're not too worried. democrats will be happy to help us pass this thing. they can use michelle bachman. they could lose a hundred michelle bachmans. they took that for granted. the way we know they took that for grant said by how they behaved. and what they did, the very last minute, is put a whole bunch of stuff in the bill that they knew democrats would set their hair on fire about. that democrats wouldn't like. but they figured, oh, they are democrats. we will get their votes anyway. democrats at least far while there, showed some spine and made it seem like they weren't going to do this.
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that is elizabeth warren on the senate floor. there is elizabeth warren with max even waters, on the financial services committee. not incidental to this fight because the main things democrats rejected to is that republican provision which appears to have been written by a citigroup lobbyist, that would help bailout big banks, like in the financial crisis. maxine had more than 20 fellow democrats in her office this afternoon to strategize. nancy pelosi said she would not vote for this. she thanksed anyone who was planning on voting no. huffington post reported in a private meeting with her whip team, if democrats stand up on this the democratic base will stand with them. she said, quote, the public
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awareness among our base is very high on this. with that, everybody writing down what john boehner said, everybody had an unexpectedly long day at the office today. the plan was they would have a few defections but would more than make up for it. they got zero democratic votes. john boehner started personally working the floor lobbying individual republicans who voted no. that they needed to change their votes. the reindeer herder who just lost his seat in congress was he actually las been voted out. he lost his primary. but he was run of those that john boehner voted on today. they just scooched this thing by in the first pro sees you'ral vote. they only won the procedural vote by two votes. they had zero democrats to help
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them do it. this day was supposed to be easy but almost died right there. after that unexpectedly close vote. the house went into recess at 2: 07 p.m. eastern time. they stayed in recess all afternoon long. all through evening. all through dinner time until after 9:00. and the government shut down was set to happen at midnight tonight. if they didn't come up with some sort of funding bill that they could pass. and everybody thought this was no problem. that it was going to be simple but turned to be out chaos to the point where the white house today got cabinet secretaries and vice president himself on the phone lobbying house democrats trying to persuade them to actually vote yes to go along with john boehner and his plan on this. they dpt think they would have to do that. they thought it would be fine. house democrats in the white house are usually on the same side. but on this, no. everybody took the democratic votes to bailout john boehner for granted. everybody did. except for a while, for the people who those votes today
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. so as the battle to avoid a government imminent shutdown rages on inside the capital tonight, right now, this is tsc outside the capital today. look at this. staffers as well as some members of congress staged a walk-out from the u.s. capitol today. see them holding their hands up. walk-outs in the decision not to charge police officers who killed either those men. protests over those killings have been a day after day news story for weeks now, as you know. this is a very dramatic thing to see at the u.s. capitol.
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>> today, as people throughout the nation protest for justice in our land, forgive us when we have failed to lift our voices for those who couldn't speak or breath for themselves. >> senate chaplin barry wlblack leading a prayer at this dramatic walk-out today. some staffers and members of congress protesting police killings. lots more ahead. stay with us. sick days, dads take nyquil. the nighttime, sniffling, sneezing, coughing, aching, fever, best sleep with a cold, medicine. twhat do i do?. you need to catch the 4:10 huh? the equipment tracking system will get you to the loading dock. ♪ there should be a truck leaving now.
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in a limited number of cases, techniques were used that were not authorized, and rightly should be repudiated by all. >> as far as we know that was the first time that has ever happened in the united states of america. when the cia director today gave a public televised press conference, including taking questions from the press corps, we have been scouring the archives all day, and asking reporters who know these things, but as far as we can tell, we think this is the first time a cia director has ever done that on any subject. director john brennan taking questions publicly in a televised press conference about the torture report. we will have plmore on that ahe.
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and to the point, things you don't see much of, this happens sometimes but not very often. this shearing in the united states senate. see that big black drape there., but you cannot hear them. it is behind that black screen. that witness could not reveal his face to the public. he was a special agent to the fbi. his name is ali suffant. he uncovered the first solid link between 9/11 and al qaeda. he accomplished that because he was a highly skilled interrogator. he got information from people we desperately needed to talk. he was sent to interrogate this guy, abu zubaydah, the first val i'd member of al qaeda that the united states captured after 9/11. u.s. troops captured him in a gun fight and he was shot
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multiple times. when a aabu z zubaydah was brou in, it was clear he was lucid, you don't make a scene one just play along. then they started asking him questions. and abu zubaydah, the first big get in the war against al qaeda, talked to his interrogatorinter. he talked about the inner workings of al qaeda. he revealed that supervisor for the 9/11 operation was khalid shaikh mohammed. they did not know he was al qaeda. once they learn thread, our country learned, basically, that who done it. right? which terrorist group attacked us.
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that fbi interrogation was successful. it produced real information that u.s. needed and was able to act on. but then something changed. abu zubaydah was interrogated by suffant. contractors were sent in. they stripped him naked. blasted music in his cell. went ton to water board him. they were part after new cia torture program. they were sent to torture the prisoner even though he had already been talking without tore touring him. people make the case that rashalal for torturing people is that there is no time to waste. a time bomb is ticking somewhere. but the cia contractors who came in and took over for sufant and his partner seemed to have
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plenty of time for this guy. first stage was they put him in solitary confinement without human contact for 47 days before ever asking him a question. after 47 days of zero human contact they went into torture including water boarding him. instead of talking, which he had been doing before torturing began, instead of revealing what he knew about al qaeda, well, the elite fbi interrogator, sufat, whose work to that point had been successful and productive, he described what happened next in that senate testimony in 2009 from behind that screen. >> when we ipter gated him, using init'll jent interrogation methods within the first hour, we gained important actionable intelligence. >> you say under the contractor harsh techniques were
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introduced, which did not produce results as zubaydah shut down and stopped talking, correct? >> correct, sir. >> since then, fbi agent soufan has been able to become more public. he has written a terrific book about his experiences and about al qaeda and he has been a guest on this show. he can now tell his story. or at least the parts of it that are not classified about how his nontorture interrogation works. and it worked. until the cia stepped in with torture, then progress stopped. but there is still a mystery at the heart of this story. we still do not know why the cia came up with there idea. why did the cia decide to start a torture program? they didn't have an existing torture program. and it wasn't that they had people in custody and the normal methods of interrogating them weren't working. abu zubaydah was the first high value target that we had and the normal methods were working with
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him. but despite that, somewhere away from that lived experience an abstract policy decision was made back at headquarters to proactively come up with a plan to start torturing people even though there was no real world impetus for doing it among the people we had captured. why? and who made that decision? we still don't know that. but again, why did that happen? ali soufan joins us next. dads don't take sick days, dads take nyquil. the nighttime, sniffling, sneezing, coughing, aching, fever, best sleep with a cold, medicine.
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takyou haven't seen ep like... your bed in days. no, like you haven't seen a bed in weeks! zzzquil. the non habit forming sleep-aid that helps you sleep easily and wake refreshed. because sleep is a beautiful thing. if there is some unknowable value to these techniques, to water boarding, near drownings, slamming people against the wall, hanging them in stress positions, confining them in small boxes or coffins, threatening them with drills, waving guns around their head as they are blindfolded, what or which of these techniques could
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be used, if as the director of central intelligence, you and another president, or this president, were faced with an imminent threat? could there be another covert finding and rulings and advice from the attorney general? that would lead you and your successors to say we should do this because there could be some value to prevent an attack on america? >> as far as what happens, if in the future, there is some type of challenge that we face here, the army field manual is the established basis to use for interrogations. we, cia, are not in the detention program. we are not contemplating at all getting back into the detention program, using any of those eits. so i defer to the policy makers, in the future times, when there is going to be the need to be able to ensure that this country stays safe.
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if we face some type of crisis. >> i defer to the policy makers. meaning if they want do this again, they know our number. we know how to do this stuff. joining us now is ali sufan, a former f.b.i. special agent. he's the author of the black banners, the inside story of 9/11 and the war against al-qaida. i have to just ask you as somebody who is the initial interrogator of the first al-qaida target, your story and that prisoner are a big part of just what was presented out by the senate committee. did they get it right from your perspective? and how did you feel bringing that report? >> reading that report made me really angry. and it matches a hundred percent what i witnessed when i saw. i know they didn't talk to any of us. they didn't talk to people in
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the fbi or cia who were involved in the program. but they did what we do sometimes if government. they say if it's not on paper, they went and looke at millions of documents. and they really compiled the largest report in investigative history. 38 footnotes based on millions of cables and communications that they were able to read. my experience, from what i was involved in, the part i was involved in is a hundred percent accurate. >> well, the key -- the few things that are key about your experience in terms of what we're learning about this, country, and one of them is that you were able to get quality
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information, actionable for the ults and that was, in fact, key to us being able to use say al qaeda did it, without being able to use any torture techniques. the other thing that we have learned is that despite that, some sort of decision was made the somewhere that torture techniques should be used despite the fact that a prisoner has been talking to you. how did you experience that in realtime? did you know why the cia was doing this? or in fact that the cia was going to do it until it happened? >> actually, nobody knew.
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a lot of people were with us and they were shocked. and as i testified, the only statement under it involved in the program, some of the people there, the cia left before me. >> as you see -- >> once the enhanced interrogation techniques, once the torture started, they left. >> exactly. once they started seeing all the things happening, they disagreed. the enhanced interrogation techniques didn't start until the summer. but they were different interpretation of what they called standards interrogation techniques. and what's the level of the standard interrogation techniques. it's like what i described to the senate with the music or the sleep deprivation at the time to 24 hours only. >> and you hadn't been doing that in terms of an f.b.i. interrogator. >> people from the c.i.a. who were there were shocked. that program, to be honest with you, my experience, and this is what i testified about, it's not a c.i.a. program. it's a few people in the c.i.a. with some outside contractors that they tried to run the most sensitive program in u.s. history basically after 89/11. and so they came over and decided to out source the most important thing we have. getting information from detainees. zabaydah was not the first terrorist that we arrested. we had investigated people involved in the east africa embassy bombing. we were able to get confessions from them.
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we were able to disrupt the plots. we were able to interrogate people who were involved and get confessions. we almost stopped 9/11 based on our interrogations. however, as we know, there was a chinese wall between the intelligence and criminals so the information was not passed to the fbi on a timely basis to stop the investigation. this is not me who's saying that. this is a 9/11 commission. this is the cias own report who said that. and so we know how to interrogate people. what shocks me is to see that there were some people in washington at the time. they were convinced that no one should be involved but them. it's an institutional thing. it's their piece of cake in the fight against terrorism. and especially if the fight and interrogations of al qaeda. they were actually having meetings about how to ward off the fbi and military. they have people who know how to interrogate.
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basically, they have a program where more than 80% of the people who were involved were not agency people. the people who were from the agency who were involved in it were probably a few dozen. >> when they showed up and they started with the nudity and the shackling and the first stuff that they did that really departed from what you had been doing, did you recognize those techniques that they were doing as something that was an option? i mean, when you trained -- >> absolutely not. >> those things were available to you but you decided not to do. >> even the things that they propose it, if we see it in a police station or even the fbi, people go to jail for it. and we're not talking about the its at the time. so when eits happen, some of the cables have came out from the black sides, you know when they were doing water boarding on abu zubaydah, people said there were tears. >> right.
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couldn't get this thing passed. they reopened and started voting on the bill. they came back into session shortly after 9:00 p.m. tonight. speaker john boehner working the floor, trying to persuade both democrats and republicans to vote for the bill. the white house including cabinet secretaries and vice president biden and president obama trying to get democrats to vote for this tonight. the bill officially passed the house 219-206. i'm still getting confirmation on this. control room, tell me if i'm wrong. as far as i can tell with the count, 57 yes votes from democrats. and 67 no votes from republicans. is that right? so 57 democrats had to cross over in order to save john boehner's bacon. and after threat aening all day long that they would not. they did. the house will now vote on another bill that would just -- that only serves the purpose of giving the senate a couple more days to get this done. senate, another couple days to
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worst drought in a zillion years. kind of literally. the most severe drought in 1,200 years. not that anybody is counting. just this year alone, california has had the least rainful since we started keeping hateful records in california. the state is not just dry, it is freaking parched. rivers and lakes have all but vanished. the state's sources of drinking water, major reservoirs are way below capacity. farmland has had to go fallow. some parts of the state, people no longer have running waters in their home. because the water table dropped so much, they today rely on water being trucked in.ay rely r being trucked in.y rely on wate being trucked in. rely on water being trucked in.rely on water being trucked in. rely on water being trucked in.hto rely on wa being trucked in.ato rely on war being trucked in.dto rely on water being trucked in. to rely water being trucked in. everybody in the state has been directed to strictly conserve water. state and city ordinances have upped the fines for people found wasting water. and it's been like this for a long while now. this has been a very severe drought and a very long one. finally this week, they are getting a bit of relief in the
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golden state. but i'm not sure this is the kind of relief anyone wanted. this was san francisco's embarcadaro this morning. water already crashing over the sea wall there. enough to close streets and knock out power, even four hours before high tide. that was just the beginning. rain pounded the bay area all day. hurricane force winds, flash flooding led to blackouts in more than 200,000 homes today. heavy downpours affected the commute in a major way. big highway connecting san francisco and san jose, most of them were shut down due to severe flooding. public transportation suspended in much of the city. flooding got so bad on city streets that, as you can see here, people were practically swimming around. on a few streets, the sewer system was overflowing to the point of blowing off manhole covers. bay area school districts canceled school today in preparation for what was anticipated to be this big storm. that said, this is california and so anything can be an excuse to get your kayak out.
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it also being california, some people cars oddly ended up being unexpectedly made for this kind of weather. they're saying this is a once in a decade storm, although once in a whatever time period weather formats right now no longer seem do hold true anymore. they're saying it's the effect of an atmospheric river. they call these sorts of storms the pineapple express. because they say this very wet air is coming from basically the vicinity of hawaii. while this thing is absolutely dousing much of northern and central california today, eight inches on san francisco today, the state still needs another 10 or 20 inches of rain this year to get out of the record drought. let's hope it doesn't all come in one day. thanks for being with us. good evening, lawrence. >> amazing rains out there, rachel. it's really something. we have breaking news tonight. as rachel just reported, the house managed to pass a $1.1 trillion spending bill needed to avert a government shutdow
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