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happy decorating, everyone. have a great day. coming up now is "now" with alex wagner. >> the great end of year tradition lives on. deck the halls with congressional chaos. it's friday, december 12th, and this is "now." >> mercifully it's friday. >> that $1 trillion spending bill has landed in the senate with a thump. >> you can see the vote happen officially on monday. >> the house vote last night averted a potential government shutdown. >> the white house said the president would sign it. >> this by definition was a compromised will. >> it's a terrible bill. >> a big rift between the white house and democrats on the hill. >> nancy pelosi had been cut out of this process. >> we didn't hear anything about this until a day or two before. >> you saw pelosi make this last-minute push. totally distanced herself from the president. >> we really haven't seen that on something of this scale.
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>> you're used to seeing the republicans like this. >> washington is about lobby, not parties so much. >> there are a bunch of provisions in that bill that i really do not like. >> we are moving backwards on wall street reform. >> wall street has dominated the white house. >> this is really congress at its absolute worst. >> there are deep divisions. >> had i been able to draft my own legislation and get it passed without any republican votes, i suspect it would be slightly different. >> the 113th congress is wrapping up its lame duck session with a trillion dollar spending package that is nearly in the bag. the senate is in session and majority leader for a little longer, senator harry reid, says he hopes for a vote on the deal today. in a nail-biter late last night the so-called bill passed the house narrowly averting a government shutdown. that was driven in large part by senator elizabeth warren who made no secret for her distaste for the deal. >> when the next bailout comes, a lot of people will look back
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to this vote to see who was responsible for putting the government back on the hook to bail out wall street. >> that argument gained traction in the house where nancy pelosi made a public break with the white house and its support for the bill, forcing president obama to reportedly leave christmas tree photo ops to whip votes when his minority leader would not. in her holiday message this afternoon pelosi said i appreciate members leaving in doubt the number of democrats prepared to vote for final passage, enabling us to maintain leverage in the last days' negotiations. however members voted a unity of purpose and clarity of message came from our house democratic caucus. with this passage, the bill put a bow on the work for the lower chamber and send house members home for the holidays but it is not eggnog and muscistletoe jus yet. it is up to harry reid to get
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his party to push it across the finish line. minutes ago he reminded democrats the clock is ticking. >> legislation is a compromise. that's what this legislation is. there isn't a lot of time. government funding runs out on 12:00 midnight saturday. >> so will progressive democrats get on board? we know where elizabeth warren is. will conservative republicans get on board? >> congress should stand up and use the power of the purse. we will not allocate taxpayer dollars to lawless and illeg illegal -- >> or will elizabeth warren join ted cruz forming the oddest coalition of all time? stay tuned. joining me is former governor of vermont and former chair of the dnc, howard dean, washington bureau chief for buzzfeed news, john stanton and washington bur rechief for "time" magazine, john sharer.
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does this portend of something more to come? >> it may. here's the deal. i'm not sure this is partisan. i do expect some members of the tea party on the right to vote no on this thing. there's two kinds of compromises. one is one you don't like and one is truly dangerous. there's some campaign finance stuff in here i don't like but i'd support it in order to keep the government running. this is dangerous to measure, this banking stuff. we just went through a horrible recession based on the fact that a lot of people in the banking sector were basically playing gambling casino on wall street. and with derivatives but collateralized mortgage obligations, with interest credit default swaps. this is a bad thing. this doesn't create jobs. and it's bad for the country. we will in fact have to bail out the banks again because the banks are too big to fail. so you either have to break up the banks or limit their ability
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to do damage to the economy. so this is a really big deal. i think you'll see some republicans vote no on this in the senate. i think there's a reasonable chance it's going to go down and i do not think there's anybody in the republican party who wants to stand up and make a big issue of this. if it does come back, i think they'll all come back and support it and the government will not close. >> this is the season of never say never, governor, but you think there's a strong chance this doesn't pass the senate? >> i don't think it's a strong chance but i think there is a chance. do you want to be running for president in 2016 in either party and stand up and defend this and defend to give the banks what they need and put the country's credit at risk as we did in 2008, which led to the unemployment of millions of americans? i don't think there's anybody in either party that wants to be on board with this amendment. >> michael, the governor outlines what i think is a pretty big difference in principle over regulation and consumer protection. the white house today said
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fundamentally the schism that we saw was not one over principal but a difference over tactics. how truthful does that ring to you? >> well, there were also tactics here. what the white house was looking at is what would happen if they weren't able to get an omnibusf through september and next spring they would have to get something include to continue keeping the government open with a far more republican house and senate. and for the white house, the trade-off, the tactic was to take the lump now rather than in march. but i think the issues at play here, both on the campaign finance front and on the banking regulation front are very much issues of principle. and incredibly ironic, given that we have just come through an election in which harry reid and all the democrats and many of the republicans were out there campaigning against special interests, out there campaigning against big money in politics and here we are with
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the election barely a month and a half away, the first thing they do is sneak these things into a bill with very little public debate and get them passed. >> john, do we know who put -- who basically gutted mccain-feingold this week? nobody will fess up and say this was our idea. >> yeah, i don't think anybody wants to be out there like this was my idea, this is a great thing to go do. >> well, just -- not in defense of this, but theoretically there's an argument to be made about free speech or whatever, but nobody has tried to claim it on the right. >> no. i think the biggest argument i've seen is more we're getting rid of some of the money that goes into conventions and reduce little federal government's role. that's as far as anybody wants to go because it does look like it's supporting special interests and nobody wants to be that guy right now, i think, except for maybe mitch mcconnell who does say this is about free speech, it doesn't matter if you're a corporation. >> so maybe mitch mcconnell did it? >> possibly.
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it sounds like it was maybe somebody in the house. no one really knows. >> mcconnell has denied it, but i guess many of them have. really the bottom line here is what this does is it makes it easier for politicians and parties to raise money to do big things, like conventions and buy buildings and organize stuff. it just makes their lives easier. why wouldn't they vote for it if they can get away with it. and weeks after an election they can get away with it. >> governor dean, as former chair of the dnc, some folks will say the upside of this is there's less money in outside spending groups and more money in regulated party groups and that makes it more transparent. do you see any merit in that argument? >> we're talking about the wrong issue. very few people vote on campaign finance issues. the big issue is the banking issue. that could bring down the country and it almost did bring down the country so for us to relax that is a danger to the united states of america.
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we can moan and grown about free speech and i of course would never support this kind of approach, but the fact of the matter is this is a dangerous bill for the united states because of what they have done to allow the banking sector to continue to abuse their position as essentially an oligopaly. that is not something that's popular on the right or the left. >> yeah, john, to that end a lot of discussion and analysis about where democrats are at but the unspoken story line is not that the white house was on board with this but that establishment republicans were pushing to get an omnibus spending bill through congress in advance of them taking over both houses of congress. that is a testament to just how scared mitch mcconnell and john boehner are of their far right flank, is it not? >> it is. the interesting thing to me about that is this has been a position that boehner and mcconnell have been in now for four years. and they see that it's not going
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to go away next year. they wanted to try to get the bulk of the government funded for a while so when they go into this fight in february over the deportation rules that they only have a smaller piece to deal with, which is still going to be a mess for them. the other interesting thing is that you're starting to now see a bit of a mirror of that on the democratic side and both leaderships will have to struggle with this, i think, in the first couple months of the new congress. that is going to be the biggest change in the dynamic. whereas it's always been the last couple years republicans have this huge problem on their right. harry reid may now have a pretty big problem of his own on his left. >> michael, do you think that we're going to see -- the governor points out that the issue of wall street getting away with being able to bending the law in ways that ordinary citizens can't and financial regulation being eroded in the cromnibus, do you think that this populist strain of the tea party returns now that there are champions for it on the left and it feels like in this particular
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moment there's more wind in the sails of that discussion? >> i think it is. i think what we're going to see now that republicans are in charge and democrats are clearly as frustrated as republicans having not been able to do much the last couple of years, you're going to have the wings be against the center. my guess is the result on most issues next year is the center, who wants to get stuff done working very closely with all the varying lobbying groups triumphs over the edges on both the conservative and the liberal side. in part because the edges aren't as well coordinated with each other and in part because on a lot of these issues, they're not, as the governor said, deciding issues. i would argue that even though there's enormous concern about banking regulation, if you asked any voter the day before the election what a swap was, there's very few that could explain what that is. >> and governor dean, the fact
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that jamie dimon was making calls last night for votes on a bubl budget bill, maxine waters said after the president and jamie dimon started calling, they gave in. the jamie dimon part of that sentence is a little distressing. >> let me just repeat what i said earlier in the show. if you think any of these people on either side of the aisle want to run for president having done the bidding of the banks and put the financial system of the western world at risk in doing that, i agree it may be the wings against the middle but the wings control both primaries. how would you like to go to iowa in either party where their populous could have a tremendous amount to say and campaign on -- and defend yourself from the attacks of your opponents in your party that you supported the banking system that put us at risk. they already hate the bailouts that went on in 2008 and '09, i
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don't think they're going appreciate this. i think every senator who votes for this and then thinks they're going run for president is putting their campaign at enormous risk in either party. >> john, to that ending there's been a lot of talk about whether elizabeth warren would run for president. it seems clear that the power center will be the upper chairman. she does not seem or sound cowed and could be an incredibly powerful tool leading into 2016. >> oh, absolutely. she's been following in a way a model ted cruz has been using which is operating from the pulpit of the senate and using that very big megaphone to rally support in the lower chamber, to start opposition there. you saw it happen in the house and that has transferred to the senate where more and more senators are saying wait a second, we don't know if we like this language. you're starting to see the outside organizations rally around her quite a bit. >> but can i interrupt you, john, because i think that it's dangerous to compare what elizabeth warren did on the
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cromnibus to what cruz did. matt iglesias gets to why. in terms of influence and sphere of influence there are some parallels but he writes in 2013 republicans demanded obamacare repeal as ransom for funding the government. in 2014 republicans are demanding partial roll back of dodd frank was ransom for funding the government. it continues to be that the gop wants to use government funding as leverage to undo policy measures democrats enacted in the 111th congress in both 2013 and 2014 elizabeth warren didn't want to pay the ransom. the ransom is still there. rolling back parts of dodd-frank actually has nothing to do with the budget bill, john. >> no. but she's at own odds with her leader and she's at odds with her president so in that sense they are very similar. you watch her language. they use very similar language to sort of get to the populous base that both of them speak to. i do think -- in terms of their
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politicking and how they are wielding power in washington, they are remarkably similar. >> michael, february 27th is the looming deadline now if the cromnibus passes for dhs funding to run out. i'm having a hard time, do you see a feasible pass forward? >> it will be very ugly, a lot of suspense and something will work its way through. the false narrative here is that there's not really a lot of options republicans have to stop the president's immigration action short of doing stuff that damages things that don't have to do with the immigration action. and the political risk of doing that is pretty high, i think. if they want to defund border patrol or something like that, they can go ahead and do it or take tsa screeners off the front lines. but the actual funding mechanism for the immigration action is funded through fees and not
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something dealt with through appropriations. it's questionable exactly how in legal language they could get something through the senate to do this. so i expect that there will be some result. congress is incredibly gifted at both creating these cliffs and then finding ugly ways out of them. >> do you see -- do you see -- michael sounds, i won't say bullish, but not bear -- not necessarily bearish on that looming deadline. how do you feel about it? >> i think he's right. i think that it's going to be very hard to do this. if you defunded the homeland security agency or let that funding expire, the people who claim they don't want any immigrants are basically opening the borders, so i think they're in a rough spot. but i think we've got to get one through the one that ends on monday before we think about february 27th. >> a very fair point, thank you
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we have more updates on that breaking news we first reported. police in portland, oregon, say there has been a school shooting after noon today at rosemary anderson, an alternative high school there. there are three victims who are conscious. they are awake and they are talking. it's unclear if they are students. the victims were shot outside the school. according to police, it may have been gang related. the area is still a crime scene but has been deemed safe. we will continue to bring you new details on this as we get them. meanwhile, there was pandemonium and widespread disruption in the skies today as a computer failure at one of the u.k.'s two air traffic controllers. the british government called the failure unacceptable and is demanding a full investigation. the glitch does not appear at this hour to have put any
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passengers at risk. joining me now is nbc news correspondent tom costello. so, tom, a computer glitch can shut down the skies over london? >> yeah. what we know is this was some sort of an air traffic control sequencing glitch. they say it is not related to any sort of a power outage and they do not believe it's any sort of a security or hack attempt. something quite simply they think went wrong with the software somewhere. at this hour london heathrow, london city airport, gatwick are showing delays between three and a half to five hours for arriving flights and about the same for departing flights. even dublin is affected by this because of the tremendous backlog now that we've seen systemwide, not only in the u.k. but of course in ireland and extending across the continent in europe. so dublin reporting delays for both departures and arrivals of three to three and a half hours or so. this particular air traffic control center handles about 5,000 flights a day and most
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arrive in the morning, everything should be okay. back to you. >> tom, just one quick follow-up. this is not the first time this has happened in the u.k., is it? >> no, it's not. this particular radar facility or air traffic control facility has had problems just in the last 12 months. clearly that's part of this investigation. what seems to be the problem here, that particular air traffic station was open about 12 years ago or so and it's really had plenty of bugs, plenty of problems over the last 10 to 12 years, so trying to iron out this mess is going to be -- going to take some time. in trying to figure out what happened, i think they'll all try to get to the bottom of it. >> tom costello, thanks for the update. >> you bet. coming up, it has been described as an avalanche of mud and debris. we'll look at the deadly storm wreaking havoc on the west coast. that is next. new cadillac. ♪ ♪ my baby drove up in a brand new cadillac. ♪
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>> he's got supporters. detroit, new york, los angeles. inciting large-scale arrests and sympathy marches. >> i'm very aware of that, mr. hoover. what i do know is he's nonviolent. what i need to know right now, what's martin luther king about to do next? >> we must march. >> you march those people into rural alabama, it's going to be open season. >> may i have a word? >> there's no word to be had. >> yesterday before its release, "selma" made history again when it's director became the first black woman to be nominated for a golden globe for best director. the release of "selma" comes at a time when thousands of americans are taking to the streets in protest of the police shootings of michael brown and eric garner. when nba players are wearing "i can't breathe" shirts to draw
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attention to racial injustice. when black congressional staff are walking off their jobs en masse to stand in solidarity and ahead of massive protests led by civil rights leaders that are planned for new york and washington, d.c., this weekend. join meeg now is actor tim roth who plays alabama governor george wallace in the movie. i am a huge fan, thank you for joining me. >> of george wallace? >> of yours, to be clear. first of all, how familiar were you with george wallace and his insidious, very controversial character and how do you prepare to play someone who is historically despicable? >> well, i was aware that he was in my household, my family were very political people when i was growing up. he was a figure that was mentioned and was talked about and was a bad guy in our house,
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definitely. and so i was familiar as much as i could be on kind of a more superficial level, i suppose, at the start of this thing. and then studied stuff that he had said and watched interviews with him. i remember when they sent the script to me to read, my wife said george wallace. >> and you said honey -- >> not mlk? >> really. but yeah, it seemed to be inappropriate. >> well, for not perhaps character reasons but because of your innate talent. >> that's the first i've really seen of the film but we used to go on marches. it's great, all these demonstrations that are taking place now, it's wonderful. it's a sad fact that's brought everyone together. but we used to go on we call it
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the antinazi league. >> let's talk about the juxtaposition of that. this movie is coming out at a time when there is national unrest on the subject of race. we have our first black president. i think that makes this argument maybe weightier than other times, i'm not sure. if you grew up going to marches, would you look at the landscape where we are now versus where we were then, how do you feel about the progress we may or may not have made as a country? >> it's not enough. >> yeah. >> it's just not enough. if anything, i think it's getting away from us. i think considering where we should be, it seems to be getting worse. we should be in a much better place at this point. >> did you think about that when you were making this movie? >> it felt absolutely appropriate that this film should be made. in fact it seemed to me it was late in being made.
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i think -- and to make -- to make the selma bridge, to make that the core of it, i think is incredibly appropriate, but it's late. it's late coming. >> i also think the first big major motion picture with anyone playing martin luther king. the fact that an african-american woman directed this, and there are stories of her on set sort of helping you guys channel the rage and the anger that was part of that moment. i mean what was that dynamic like? >> well, honestly i came in and did my wallace bit and they were all heading to selma. i wish i could have gone with them but it probably wasn't appropriate for me to be there. when i arrived, the first thing i did, i had a speech. i don't know if it's in the film, on some steps and huge confederate flags behind him. she was way at the back and she was just cheering.
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and i was coming out with these awful racist right-wing sloganeering kind of politics. >> what a surreal image that is. to sort of mimic the enthusiasm of the crowd that you would have spoken to. >> but she was very much -- for her they had been waiting for their wallace to show up, which kind of put king in perspective. i think that they were very eager to see what that would be, and she's very tactile, very hands-on director. >> one of the things we've been talking about this week is a little about how much culture shapes politics. i mean politics doesn't shape politics. seeing lebron james come out with an "i can't breathe" jersey. >> i thought it was great. >> and having a black woman director get nominated for a golden globe on a movie about racial justice could actually have a tangible effect on people
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participating in protests this weekend. >> let's hope so. that would be great if that were the case. i hope so. but why is that the first time that that's happened? why are we sitting around talking about that? it's extraordinary. because -- and then you have to start thinking about who's running hollywood. >> i guess i would ask you, as part of -- as a powerful player in hollywood, someone with incredible movies under your belt, do you feel like hollywood is getting better on the subject of race? >> on the subject of race, i think it is. it's creeping along, but it's definitely getting there. there were enough people there that want to make films about difficult subjects and political subjects, plenty of people out there, but they are -- i think they are -- i feel quite positive about that. i do feel that there are difficult stories and they will be told. >> this movie got made. >> yeah, this got made. >> and it's been nominated for a golden globe for best drama, which is no small thing. "selma" opens limited release on
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we are continuing to follow the breaking news in oregon where three people have been shot in a school shooting at rosemary anderson high school in portland. according to police, the three victims are conscious, awake and speaking. police say the shooting may have been gang related. the area is still a crime scene but has been deemed safe. joining me now by phone is portland police sergeant pete simpson. sergeant simpson, can you tell us a little bit more about the possible connection to gangs? >> well, preliminarily officers here have been speaking with witnesses since things have settled down and the information is leading us to believe that the shooter and/or people the shooter was with may be gang affiliated. it is unclear that is the motivation for the shooting. we don't know that the students have any gang affiliation, but certainly is a different scenario than an active shooter going into a school. >> sergeant, we're hearing that the area is safe but potentially the shooter or shooters are on
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foot. they haven't been captured by police. how do we square that? the area is safe but we haven't found them? >> we have to go off the best information we have. according to the investigators, they have spoken with folks that have given them at least enough information to believe that the shooter left the area. we have no reason at this point to be looking in the immediate area. we have investigative resources focusing on trying to identify that person and follow that piece of it up. we've got a number of resources here that are focused on the active crime scene and we have officers at the hospital with the victims. >> and what about the victims themselves? it's unclear if they're actual students, but do we have any information on their ages? >> all three are teenagers. working to confirm if they go to the school, rosemary anderson. this is a three high school sort of educational neighborhood. there's jefferson high school, rosemary anderson and then
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ordered her royal highness to keep wrapping and the princess responded like this. >> play it again. clearly, this is the best royal jif of all times. the second thing that broke the internet, is joe biden. buzzfeed asked us to caption this shot of our favorites, hello darkness, my old friend. barack promised that i'd get to pardon the turkey this year. and ain't no sunshine when he's gone. but the big story that quite literally broke the internet this week was the sony hacking scandal in which thousands of illegally hacked e-mails exposed real talk. angelina jolie was described as a minimally talented spoiled brat. michael fasbender makes you feel
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bad to have normal sized men genitalia. and sony discussed possibility of 21 jump street and men in black crossover movie. joining us now is buzzfeed's dorsey shaw. let's talk about the sony hacking scandal. there are multiple dimensions here. there are questionably or latently racist exchanges between amy pascal and scott ruden where she asks what she's going to ask the president and should i ask him if you like django. they go back and forth about those afro h-centric movies. is that a bigger deal than maligning the reputation and skills of angelina jolie? >> i would say so, internally
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also it's probably going to expose the fact that racism is pretty embedded in the system and that's kind of what it showed me but it was also interesting that they were talking about how pay wages and like the gaps at sony. so it was kind of interesting, that kind of angle. gives you a lot of insight. and i think these leaks will keep on coming out, so who knows. >> right. and the other thing is it made every single hollywood executive, most of whom are white, probably scared about the e-mails they have sent. there's clearly not enough people of color in the higher echelons of the hollywood food chain. i do think the angelina jolie picture of amy pascal today, i think you guys had -- i feel like buzzfeed had -- do we have the buzzfeed line? the claw hand at the bottom of the screen, i think that's the
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scariest part of that photo. >> you know, she's definitely reacting. i think it's interesting, though -- >> that was not in the photo. that is what you guys did. and it's true. that's what she was actually doing if you were in the room. >> i had some fun with that. but when you look at the e-mails, it's mostly ruden. it's not pascal who's talking about angelina jolie like this. i saw that photo and just thought i'd have a little fun with it. i felt like when she was looking into her eyes, she's like what did he say? >> i felt like you needed daggers on the claw hand. >> i have all weekend, i can do that. there was a thought-provoking tweet releasing private sony e-mails to hurt people is the same of releasing nude photos of jennifer lawrence. why are they okay to print? what do you think of that contention, that that's the same as hacking into jennifer lawrence's phone? >> it's stealing. and we had a really good piece,
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a long read on buzzfeed about this very thing. you know, it's tricky. journalists are going to go through these kinds of things, no matter who puts them out. and, you know, report on what's out there. it's one thing to report on something and it's another thing to -- >> and that is a tricky line in the 21st century in terms of digital media. >> we're figuring it out, it seems like. >> i was going to skip over the royal eye roll but i know this has a special place in your heart. >> a special place in our chat room, that's for sure. it was blowing up all day. >> what was -- what was blowing up with it -- than the awesomeness of princess kate like are you really talking -- >> it was just pure awesomeness. she's great. these kinds of -- it's interesting to see the royals getting some new york charm, you know, finding out what that's
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like. they're very polite and she handled it very well. >> with the royal eye roll. i would be remiss if we did not talk about joe biden. i would like to know from buzzfeed perspective, jif captioning contests or jpeg captioning contests what, is it about joe biden that is so mean worthy? >> it seems like he's having the most fun out of everybody. he can be serious when he has to be and give the rip-roaring speeches, but it seems like he's having the ride of his life and he's just going keep having a good time and the internet loves it. >> i mean he has a smile -- there is an in on the jokiveness of joe biden even when he seems like he's making a mistake, it's almost like you wonder do you know that you're making the mistake? >> it seems like he goes out and he knows there's a big chance he's going to make a mistake so
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he's just going with it. got the smile with it. >> joe biden, never, ever leave the vice presidential office. >> police. >> dorsey, the last piece of this, the sony hacking happened maybe because kim jong-un was upset about a sony movie that was coming out and set his hackers upon sony e-mail accounts as retribution? i don't know. but that in itself is like a meta narrative, a meta plot about a movie that sony should probably make, right? there is a movie somewhere in the movie. >> maybe they can merge it with "men in black" and "21 jump street". >> that is our broken internet, dorsey shaw. thank you for your time and your thoughts. we are happy to debut this segment with you and look more about our broken internet on your website. thanks for your time. coming up, we have an update on the breaking news in oregon where three people have been shot in a school shooting at
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rosemary anderson school in portland. according to the police, three victims are conscious. they are awake and they are talking. police say the shooting may have been gang related. i just spoke with a local sergeant who said the victims were teenagers, but it is unclear if they went to this high school or another in the area. the area remains a crime scene but it has been deemed safe. that is all for now. "the ed show" is coming up next. we're following breaking news out of portland. police are investigating a shooting outside rosemary anderson high school. the school is on lockdown. three people were shot. it's not clear if they were in
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fact students. police tell us the victims were shot outside and ran into the school for help. the shooter or shooters have not been apprehended. at this time all victims are conscious and talking. there's no word on what led up to the shooting. we'll keep an eye on the story and bring you any developments as they happen. good evening, americans. welcome to "the ed show." it's been a busy day. the house passed another short-term funding bill. we're keeping our eye on the senate as we await their vote. for years now we've watched our hyperpartisan obstructionist congress struggle to perform its basic duties. so it's only fitting that it's been a high-stakes drama, complete with a looming government shutdown and open rebellion. without a doubt the star of this latest drama has been massachusetts senator elizabeth warren. last night the house managed to pass the
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