fact students. police tell us the victims were shot outside and ran into the school for help. the shooter or shooters have not been apprehended. at this time all victims are conscious and talking. there's no word on what led up to the shooting. we'll keep an eye on the story and bring you any developments as they happen. good evening, americans. welcome to "the ed show." it's been a busy day. the house passed another short-term funding bill. we're keeping our eye on the senate as we await their vote. for years now we've watched our hyperpartisan obstructionist congress struggle to perform its basic duties. so it's only fitting that it's been a high-stakes drama, complete with a looming government shutdown and open rebellion. without a doubt the star of this latest drama has been massachusetts senator elizabeth warren. last night the house managed to pass the cromnibus bill, a

measure to fund the federal government through the end of september, 2015. not before senator warren very publicly campaigned against it. >> the house of representatives is about to show us the worst of government for the rich and powerful. this is a democracy and the american people didn't elect us to stand up for citigroup, they elected us to stand up for all the people. >> at the heart of warren's objections is a provision which would provide taxpayer subsidies to wall street risky trading. warren's has become the de facto spokeswoman for liberalism. she is the architect of the consumer financial protection bur roerks a watchdog agency aimed at protecting consumers from shady practices in the wake of the financial crisis. so it makes sense that warren isn't about to stand by quietly while lawmakers try to give wall street another handout. >> why in the world are you spending your time and your

energy fighting for a provision written by citigroup lobbyists that would increase the chance of future bailouts? why in the last minute as you head out the door and a spending bill must be passed are you making it a priority to do wall street's bidding? who do you work for, wall street or the american people? people are frustrated with congress. part of the reason, of course, is gridlock. but mostly it's because they see a congress that works just fine for the big guys and won't lift a finger to help them. >> 57 house democrats still voted to pass the bill. likely pause the threat of a second government shutdown in just over a year was enough to twist their arm. the bill still needs to be passed by the senate. senator warren may fail to take this one provision and she won't stop it either, but in her attempt she has successfully inspired a movement within the

democratic party. earlier today a group of 300 former obama staffers wrote an open letter urging elizabeth warren to run for president in 2016. the group cites warren's willingness to take on powerful interests like the wall street banks that crashed our economy. they call warren the backbone that the democratic party too often forgets it needs. we don't know if warren will run. we do know this puts the pressure on hillary clinton or any democrat with their sights set on 2016. because senator warren is now forcing liberals to publicly choose a side wooerand warren m it very simple. are you with main street or are you with wall street? elizabeth warren has the backbone to fight for the 99% and she isn't afraid to call it like she sees it. that means hopefuls like hillary aren't going to get any hiding space in the center anymore. tonight's question, bill elizabeth warren push the democrats to the left in 2016? text a for yes, text b for no at

67622. i'll bring you the results later in the show. joining me now is michigan congressman dan kilde and don johnston. congressman, is this the future of the democratic party with elizabeth warren there? is she forcing the party more to the left? >> well, i'm not sure if it's left or right but it's certainly forward in the right direction. i, like elizabeth, feel that the dodd-frank provisions that were put in place after the financial crisis are there to protect the american consumer and the american taxpayer. it's one of the reasons that i voted against the cromnibus, but we also rewarded the wealthiest americans by giving them the ability to spend ten times the amount that they otherwise could to support political parties at the same time that we provide taxpayer support for wall street. for me it was a bridge too far. what senator warren is saying, i think, is the same thing many of

us in the house are saying. it's what the american people wanting. they want us to fight. and i was disappointed, frankly, that the president didn't stand and fight with us. i think we could have won this battle. >> sure. david, can you explain why senator warren is so opposed to this provision? break down what it would do. >> sure. senator warren is basically saying you shouldn't as a bank be able to place derivatives, which are basically bets, in a casino where if you win, you get rich and if you lose, the taxpayers pay off your losses. would you like to go to the casino under those circumstances? so i don't think she's pushing to the left. i think her tremendous moral authority is being used here to promote sound economics, and i think that this will only enhance her position and increase the likelihood that she will be the president of the united states and our era's

teddy roosevelt. >> senator warren lost this battle but do you think she won the messaging war going on here? >> i hope so. we need to drive this home. we need to make it clear what the house did and what the senate is going to do is stand again with wall street and the moneyed interests. if there's anything americans want to see, they want to see us fight for them. my view would have been that the president should have said, look, send me a full year funding bill for all 12 appropriations categories and i'll sign it, $1.w1 trillion. anything else i'll veto. i will stand here and you'll stay and do your job until we get that done. that's the position senator warren has taken, the position i take. i would encourage the president to take that position going forward. they sent us here to fight for them, not to capitulate. why are we always the ones that have to blink? why are we always the ones that have to give? folks sent us here to fight for them and that's what we should be doing. >> sure. so david, back in the '90s, bill

clinton made it easier on big banks. in the current climate do you think hillary clinton will do the same thing and make the same mistake? >> no. i think hillary clinton's real problem is going to be separating herself from the terrible economic mistakes of her husband's administration. and if elizabeth warren decides to run, you're going to see whatever differences they have very brightly illuminated. both of them will, of course, run against president obama's position of coddling the big banks, refusing under eric holder to prosecute the big banks and now wilting when you've got jamie dimon acting as a whip trying to get votes for the benefit of his bank. i don't see how anybody could run for office who's voted for this bill with an opponent who can say oh, you're the congressman from jamie dimon. >> so congressman kildee, why didn't you support this bill?

>> i voted against the cromnibus like many of us did. we need to stand up. if we had stood together last night and if the president had stood with us, many said that we would have had a short-term three-month cr. but the president could have made it clear that he would not sign that. he should say to congress do your job. you have a job to send me an appropriations bill. we have agreed on $1.1 trillion as the spending cap. you do your job within that framework. i'll look at it and i'll sign a full year bill. not pulling out homeland security, not adding these riders that they couldn't get passed through the normal legislative process. the reason they put that wall street package on there, which i voted against on the floor of the house when it came up, the reason they put it on there is they knew the president would be forced to sign it. i don't think he is forced to sign it. i think we should have stood strong. >> eric, there's also a provision in this bill that will hurt many people watching this

show. if you have a multi employer pension plan, you're a truck driver, carpenter, cement mason -- >> the important thing to say about this derivative package, we're not saying banks can't design these derivatives to hedge against rick, you just can't use taxpayer money to do it. somehow in the conversation this has been lost. this is making sure they can't use our money to play their games. >> thank you so much, congressman. thanks for your time tonight. remember to answer tonight's question there at the bottom of the screen and share your thoughts on twitter and on facebook. we want to know what you think. coming up, from staten island to the british isles, the race conversation has gone global. we'll discuss how to turn words into legislative actions, next. and later a look at the

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we're still following the breaking news out of portland, oregon. according to police, three teenagers were shot outside of rosemary anderson high school. it's not clear if they were students at the school. police are investigating the crime scene. the shooter or shooters have not yet been apprehended. we'll keep an eye on the story an bring you any developments as they happen. black lives matter. the signs and chants at protests aren't just about ferguson, it's not just about the nypd, it's not just about stand your ground

laws. a global conversation on race and power has ignited. we're looking at protests in london, england. 76 people were arrested in a peaceful demonstration for eric garner. we're seeing support for the unarmed and slain on basketball courts, classrooms, and now the crossover between the two. my georgetown hoyas were the first college team to wear this particular shirt. "i can't breathe" shirts on wednesday. i'm so proud of them. race is the conversation conservatives refuse to engage. they have guaranteed the issue. blame black culture for black problems. undo suspicion. disproportionate scrutiny. the conservative media has thrown their hands up as well. instead of saying don't shoot, they say don't talk to me. >> it fits right into the civil rights mentality of the naacp and other organizations. we're the victims yet again, we're the victims, let's fix this problem, we shouldn't be

the victims. but what about the much more difficult problem of we're the problem. >> whether you like it or not, when he's moving his hands around and saying don't do it, he resisted. >> we're the problem when it comes to the dysfunction. that's the t-shirt he should wear. i can't breathe this week. next week be a better father to your son. >> the crime rates driven by the dissolution of the family. no supervision, okay. kids with no fathers. the black neighborhoods are devastated by drug gangs who prey upon their own. that's the problem. >> their narrative is thuggery. if a blagg man is not perfect, he has already been convicted. there's a whitewash double standard, sweeping generalizations about black america and black crime wipe away countless black lives from a real conversation. black lives do not matter in the conservative media, and plus they are highly hypocritical. thomas jefferson had sex with an underage woman 14 years old and

against her will because he owned her. do we consider the president a pedophile and a rapist? i certainly don't. but by their logic this is what they are suggesting. alexander hamilton died in a gun battle with aaron burr. was she a gangster and a thug? i don't believe so. congressional staffers walked off their jobs on thursday afternoon to show support for families of michael brown and eric garner. they're pushing the conversation on the hill. now we need the president to lead. president obama commented on the concerns of protesters but he hasn't stood with them. throughout president obama's six years in office, we stood behind him. when he was interrupted during the state of the union, "you lie," when he had a finger wagged in his face when he received vicious assaults and attacks, we said his black life matters. he deserves the respect and dignity due to any president, regardless of color. it's time for him to stand by us. no more excuses.

it's time for him to be articulate and to express the real need of america to recognize the equal value of all lives, and in this case specifically, of african-american people and latino people as well. it's time for a real conversation on race and it's time for action. joining me now, teff poe, philip agnew and paneil josephs. brother agnew, marches are scheduled in washington and new york tomorrow. organizers are hoping for a million people. what do you think the real point of it is and what can we expect? >> the point of it is simple. people are sick and tired of being sick and tired, and that's what we saw in a neighborhood in ferguson, missouri, when a young man was murdered and the community rolls up in a way that we haven't seen in 40 or 50 years. people are tired of a system that criminalizes every day,

that profiles, that stops, that frisks, that imprisons, that kills people in our community and then once they're dead, forces the corpses to defend themselves. people are tired. that's what we're going to see around the country, there are mobilizations happening at cities around the country. they're not spontaneous. they're decentralized, they're coordinated. but the fact of the matter is no matter what race the people are going to the marches, the consensus is clear. the way that this country is run, the way that it operates, the way that it treats the people left on the margins is not acceptable to us anymore. and if we can't continue on our lives as full citizens, business as usual will not commence. >> all right. teff, what changes do you want to see coming from these killings, these brutal murders of these unarmed black people? >> we just want to be humanized. the bottom line is i get tired

of hearing stories about unarmed people being shot down by police officers and what happens when these cases go to trial is just unbelievable. they leave it in the hands of the grand jury, they don't even press charges. mike brown's body left in the street four and a half hours. eric garner murdered on camera. this is a live execution. we're sick and tired of the victims being villified. it's time to have a real conversation about police brutality in america. if police brutality is legal, according to the statistics, then we want this country to own up to it and say that is the case. >> professor joseph, i saw the movie "selma" last night. it's a remarkable film, great performances. it brings a lot of legitimacy to the portrayal of a civil rights movement. the film explores also the vicious reaction to nonviolent protests in 1965. we're still fighting a battle for nonviolent expression and inequality in 2014. why are the similarities from '65 still so striking today, despite the fact that we are being told, including by the white house, that, look, it

ain't as bad as it used to be so let's not concentrate on those similarities? >> well, the racism and the constitutional structural inequality persists 49 years later after selma. i think the biggest critique of the president is the president's unwillingness to acknowledge that even though he has escaped from this american gulog, millions of african-americans just haven't, right? and when we think about sell marks the interesting thing about that movie is that march 7th, 1965, was bloody sunday and then there was turn-around tuesday and the massive march, march 21st to march 25th when 30,000 people joined dr. king. but the movie shows that the institution of racism was facilitated by state violence. those were alabama state troopers who were beating people on the bridge. and when we think about eric garner and think about ferguson,

those are american law enforcement who are beating and killing and murdering black lives. and one thing i'll say is that this movement is about more than just the criminal justice system, although that's really important. this is a national and really a global movement for radical social justice. african-americans have always been on the cutting edge of trying to save american democracy and the black lives matter is continuing that movement. >> let me ask both tef poe and philip agnew, both have you have had expressions of living embrace of president obama but also criticism. tef poe you wrote an open letter to the president saying why is it impossible or nearly impossible for you to embrace black life in public and express yo your love. philip, you talked about going to the white house and the president asking you to be gradual and slow down and you said we're not going to do it. could both of you speak to why you publicly articulate your

love and yet your disagreement with the president? >> i mean i'm personally confused about who i voted for. it feels like i voted for mitt romney. under these circumstances, i'm better off voting for mitt romney if this is the response we're going to get from an african-american president about the mass murder of african-american youth by police officers. >> mr. agnew? >> and for me -- no, i completely agree. there was a lot of excitement the moment we voted for president obama. and i think it's important that in our discourse about the president that we humanize him as well, right? if we want to be treated as humans, so of course i can acknowledge the excitement about electing him. but we never thought we'd be in a situation like this, where the leader of the, quote unquote, free world, an african-american man, elected after an organizing back grounding in the city of chicago would stay silent when people from his very community, when people from the national community, when american citizens are being gunned down

in the street in state sanctioned violence. that's what this is. and what we're seeing right now is a response not only to those murders but really a disillusionment of government, a disillusionment with the church, a disillusionment with the state, a disillusionment with the recourse so what are people doing? taking to the streets. so this draws a line in the sand about what is hugh mangt. what side are you going to stand on is a cry that started with black youth project that was taken up in ferguson that's happening around the country. saying are you going to stand on the side of people and humanity or on the side of a system that is hell bent on its destruction and the leader of that system hasn't said anything. >> professor joseph, you are a remarkable historian, a very eloquent writer about this. talk to us, because there are millions of black people, oh, my god, why are we piling up on the president when that is exactly

not what's going on. this is about holding a president actionable for the actions of the state that he now represents. so explain to america why it's important to have this kind of open-ended conversation where there's not knee-jerk loyalty and yet expressions of empathy but also demanding in return expressions of empathy from the white house. >> absolutely. president obama -- black people have had the president's back from day one, the president and the first family. i think right now is the moment for reciprocity. when we think about martin luther king jr., martin luther king jr. leveraged the power of the black community along with activists like ella baker and others to force both president kennedy and lyndon johnson to respond, right? so when we think about president obama, these national movements that are taking place, and we're thinking about people like the dream defenders, the gentleman that you have on the "today" show who are really an extension of the ella bakers, the stokley carmichaels of the past, the president has to step up because

we are all americans. african-americans are part of this country. you can't speak out about immigration and speak out about all these other pressing social issues and not speak out about black lives mattering and not speak out in a policy way too. professor dyson, what we need when we think about social movements, creatively disruptive, morally impassioned, policy specific. body cameras for the police are not enough. we're talking about ending mass incarceration and we're talking about a new social contract between americans and the government. and that new social contract includes a greater great society, a newer new deal, real anti-poverty, a war on poverty and not a war on drugs and a war on poor black people who are put in prison by the hundreds of thousands as nonviolent drug offenders. >> well, look, that's an excellently stated point. there's a rally next week, protesters marching for mike

brown and eric garner aren't anti-police they are against the practices that led to undue harassment from police. what is your reaction to the rallies designed to counter the injustice marches? >> you hit that right on the head. >> i'll just say -- >> go ahead. i was going to say you hit that right on the head. we're not anti-police, we're anti-racism, anti-white supremacy. anti-lack of accountability on behalf of law enforcement in america. once again the statistics prove that you can murder a person on camera. it doesn't matter. when trayvon died, they said we needed more proof. when mike brown died they said where's the evidence, where's the proof. eric garner was killed on camera. tamir rice, gunned down on camera. we will not sit back idle and allow this to happen any longer. this is a new generation, this is a new dwaurguard, this is a

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are challenged, who can't make it in a regular school. so we had at least three standing outside. it looks like it may have been a drive-by shooting because police have found shell cartridges outside, perhaps of a semiautomatic weapon where a 17-year-old youth shot in the back, a young woman shot in the chest and yet another man has been shot. the shooter it looks like has fled the area and law enforcement is suggesting their belief that this is a gang-related shooting. realize that since this last summer, the portland area has seen well over a dozen people wounded or killed in gang-related shootings and law enforcement is operating under the premise that this is one more gang-banging that's taken place, this time outside of a school. >> all right, thank you clint van zandt. there's a lot more coming up on "the ed show." stay tuned.

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welcome back to "the ed show." this week beverly johnson is coming forward as the latest

woman to accuse bill cosby of drugging her. in an interview with tamron hall, johnson says she is speaking out about the incident to empower others. tamron hall has the story. >> oh, i was totally helpless. i was on the verge of passing out. i knew that, you know, i was going to be unconscious. >> reporter: beverly johnson is a broupground-breaking figure r to stardom in the 1970s. now she's joining more than two dozen women who have publicly accused bill cosby. >> i most certainly didn't think mief legacy of being the first african-american model on "vogue" and drugged by bill cosby. >> reporter: she thought she was auditioning for a part on the show when she went to his home. he insisted she drink a cappuccino. >> i immediately felt something from the first sip. and it was almost like i didn't really believe it so i took

another sip. and it wasn't long after that, that i knew i had been drugged. >> reporter: johnson says she felt the effects instantly. >> the room started to spin a little. and i was getting very woozy. >> reporter: johnson says she thought that cosby expected her to submit to him, but managed to fight back. >> i just started to swear and curse and had a tirade. i wanted him to know that i knew he had drugged me. and it was -- i don't know, i just went on survival mode. >> reporter: she says he yanked her down the stairs and shoved her into a cab. >> i woke up the next day. i was total redisoriented. didn't remember exactly what happened, was devastated and disappointed. >> reporter: johnson says she struggled over the decision to tell her story. >> at the time i felt that it would hurt my career.

most certainly he was a very powerful man ir. >> reporter: even keeping the secret from loved ones, like her own daughter. >> i told her what she she tell her daughter if she came to her and said hey, mom, i've been drugged. what would you do? and she said, mom, you're doing the right thing. i said i love you. yes, you're doing the right thing. >> reporter: after decades of silence, johnson decided now was the time to speak out. >> i want to stand with these women that have come out. i want to have a platform for one out of every six women that are sexually assaulted. >> reporter: an attorney for bill cosby had no comment on these latest allegations. for johnson, she said sharing her story isn't about bringing down cosby, it's about empowering other victims of abuse. >> this is bigger than bill cosby. this is about women and violence

on women. this is -- this is about women finding their voice. i feel that cosby took my power that evening and that i took my power back. >> bill cosby has denied all sexual assault allegations. here's my take. ten years ago i wrote a book "is bill cosby right or has the black middle class lost his mind?" i criticized him for the attacks on the black poor, especially young black women for what he viewed as their lax morals and poor parenting skills. five, six children, same woman. eight, ten different husbands or whatever. pretty soon you're going to have to have dna cards so you can tell who you're making love to. you don't know who this is. might be your grandmother. my god. a took a lot of heat from black america for my book, as many black folk defended his views as organic conservatism and nothing more than you'd hear from your uncle or things you'd pick up at

the local barbershop. well, there's a good reason your uncle isn't on television offing analysis and sharp arguments. while your local barbershop may be entertaining, it isn't the training ground for progressive gender views. recently his world has come crashing in on him. the ultra aurter of respectability politics has been alleged as a serial rapist. a man who allegedly dropped drugs in women's drinks over the last 40 years and sexually abused them or otherwise assaulted them against their wills and often while they were in varying states of consciousness or unconsciousness. i think beverly johnson has added heft and believability to the accusations against cosby because she has nothing to gain by coming forward, but surely a lot to lose. in "vanity fair" she writes a voice in my head kept whispering black men have enough enemies out there already, they certainly don't need someone like you, an african-american

with a famous name fanning the flames. black women can't be forced to choose between their gender or race and harbor secrets that shred their hearts and ruin their lives because of a false notion of race loyalty. black men must prove our loyalty to black women, even if it means calling out one of our most beloved icons who has hypocritically shielded himself behind a cloak of black respectability and morality. let's be honest here, the logic of black respectability has taken quite a blow with cosby's fall from grace, especially since it highlights the lunacy of believing that through proper behavior or appropriate dress one might stave off the mistreatment at the hands of police by convincing them of black folks' hugh mangt. it's pretty shameful that we separate his brutal assault on poor black folk and his allegations of misconduct against a score or more of women. they are related. the same impulse to berate,

demean and degrade poor people may be behind the alleged behavior cosby has displayed toward vulnerable women. those who have separated the two are missing a profound lesson offered by shawn carter. so it's tough being bobby brown. to be bobby then, you've got to be bobby now. in other words, your past and your present are linked and your glory and your shame are tied in one neat bow, and it ain't pretty. that's why we've got to remain vigilant in insisting on the just treatment of poor people and women throughout our society. coming up, i'm going to bring in three distinguished black women scholars to get their take on this developing story and what it means for american culture. the discussion continues next.

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continuing coverage. but first supermodel beverly johnson has put a new focus on bill cosby. here's more from her "today" interview. >> he said i'd like you to do a scene where you play a drunk person. and i knew the part was for a pregnant lady, but i went with it. and then cosby started to make this cappuccino. he had this elaborate machine, contraption. it was huge. and he said that it makes the best coffee and cappuccino in the world and you'll never taste anything like it. and, you know, i said that i didn't really want to drink any, it would keep me up all night, but he insisted. and so i took a sip of the cappuccino. and i immediately felt really

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i feel that cosby took my power that night, that evening, and that i took my power back. that's what i feel. powerful words from super model beverly johnson, who this week came forward with new allegations against bill cosby. let's get right to our panel. zerlina maxwell, and kimberly crenshaw of columbia university. all of you have been engaged with this issue from the very beginning. this is nothing that is strange or foreign to you. professor crenshaw, let me begin with you. why is it in this country we are incapable of acknowledging,

because you're famous for talking to us about how there are interlocking oppressions, but the ways in which those interconnections have to get talked about so black women don't get marginalized. help us understand why it's important to do both. talk about black women suffering, at the same time talk about the reality that in the context of america, their lives are made marginal and therefore they're not taken seriously. >> michael, first of all, thank you for having me. you really articulated well when you pointed out that there is a connection. there's been a long-term connection between anti-racism, patriarchy in the black community and conservativism. that's what big about this story. we all know women in general have had a difficult time coming forward when they've been subject to sexual abuse. the stigma sticks with them. but what beverly johnson pointed out, there's an additional pressure on african american women that basically says they

have to be silent about the level of sexual abuse they've experienced, in part because the community sees african american women when they come out as basically being traitors, as basically contributing to the endangerment of men. if you remember, when anita hill came out, people were absolutely horrified by it. they really wanted to take her out. not because they didn't believe her, but because she violated the code of silence. and as a consequence, we supported clarence thomas. we got a conservative justice, and were not able to talk about these issues. so i think this is a new day. a lot of african american men and women are saying, we're not going to. >>a bide by that politic anymore. >> professor, you've written in the nation about the disparity between black women and white women who are raped and what their experiences are. and if the race of the

victimizer is black or white, it makes a difference. tell us about that and why it might be the context for blek women's hesitation to even come out. >> well, one of the pushbacks against the cosby allegations particularly from members of african american community have been that the women who have come forward are disproportionately white. so they're casting it as a african american male rapist and a white victim. using that to protect or come around or put solidarity with cosby. so if you look statistically, it's true that white women are more likely to come forward if the perpetrator of sexual violence is african american than they are with white men. so most rapes are interracial. 90% are committed within one's racial group. yet white women are more likely to come forward if it's an african american man.

which means that african american women are most likely not to come forward. there's a myth that black women are inherently unable to be raped. that goes back to slavery. so with beverly johnson coming forward and putting an african american face to these allegations, which i think there are many more black women that we don't know of yet, i think it's a significant moment for all the reasons the professor spoke to and to underscore the idea of racial treason has being something that's worked against racial justice for black people. >> miss maxwell, picking up on that point, tell us how difficult that is, as a black woman to name a black man as a rapist, as somebody who was engaged allegedly in this kind of activity, and the cast has been -- the dye has been cast, so to speak. and people have been afraid to come out. does this embolden women from now on, at least black women and

other women to say, i'm not going to take this being marginalized and that it's not being me being a race traitor, it's about me standing up to the vicious ways in which black women have been treated within the race itself? >> i hope so. and beverly johnson spoke to this when she said she saw other survivors come out and speak their truths. even though there are no legal consequences, there are moral and social consequences for bill cosby for the most part. yet she saw the women's bravery and decided she wanted to speak her own truth. and i think that's a very powerful statement. because too often we have a machine that kicks in, soon as you come out and tell your story, where you have to then prove that you are not lying, which is not the case in other types of crimes. so if you come forward and say, my car was stolen, the people that you tell your car was stolen, they don't say, are you sure? you know, the police go look for your car.

it's not the perfect parallel, but i think too often survivors have to play their own defense attorneys at every phase of the process. and then they're less likely to get justice because they just drop out of the process altogether because it's too challenging to always have to defend yourself and prove that you are not lying. >> right. professors tillet and crenshaw, i want to ask about something. i wrote this book ten years ago and took a lot of heat from people. i think it was reprehensible bill cosby was beating up on poor people. a lot of implications there and innuendos and attacks were against black women. but they don't matter, so we don't get that upset. tell us about the relationship between beating up on poor people and the kinds of acts that he allegedly committed. >> well, michaemichael, as you every time there's a critique about black performance, it's usually a critique of the family, of these black women that they frame as being

irresponsible. as we know, the pound cake speech was not simply an attack on black people. it was an attack on black women. because we as a community haven't been as aggressive as we should be in protecting black women from stereotypes, basically that speech was allowed to travel because so many people believed these stereotypes. >> professor tillet? >> just to add to what professor crenshaw said, the believability of the stereotypes of black women and the lack of the community pushing back against them, the reason why anita till, and mike theissyson, there's a n they go the way they do. so the idea that bill cosby maybe had an everyday practice of sexually assaulting women, that shaped his moral rhetoric,

i think, is really important to hold on to and keep pushing on. >> thank you all for your time tonight. that's "the ed show." i'm michael eric dyson in for ed schultz. "politicsnation" with reverend al sharpton starts right now. good evening, rev. >> good evening dr. dyson and thanks to you for tuning in. tonight's lead, a warning shot from the left. senator elizabeth warren and progressives in congress have put republicans on notice. they're not just going to roll over for the new gop majority. this week senator elizabeth warren took a dramatic stand, pushing democrats to fight against a budget deal that included a big give-away to big banks. >> here's the bottom line. a vote for this bill is a vote for future taxpayer bailouts of wall street. who do you work