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i'm richard louis. breaking news from capitol hill. a rare weekend session for the u.s. senate live right now. and in just a few minutes, the first vote on the so-called krom nibus bill that would fund until next year. the senate has unexpectedly just decided to have the vote tonight. a change of schedule with focus as well, gets going. we'll bring it to you live on msnbc and this afternoon, the senate did vote on a short-term funding bill that prevents the
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government from shutting down at midnight tonight. meanwhile, across the country and more than a half dozen cities today, ang aernd outrage over the recent killed of african-american men and boys. san francisco, washington, d.c. with the crowds marching with victims' families. now back to caught on camera. i got my throat split. i got my lung punctured. i got stabbed 40 times. >> the survivor of a vicious attack shares his story in hopes that these inmates will never commit such violence. but for another inmate --
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>> this life is over for me. unfortunately, i don't believe in the next one. i wish i did. >> it's too late to turn back the clock. >> i looked down. there was a knife and i just stabbed her like 17 times apparently. >> and now -- >> [ bleep ] [ bleep ]. >> the pain of incarceration begins to take a tone. >> like a dog [ bleep ] jabbed with a stick all day long. i'm pissed off. >> i understand that. >> i'm pissed off. >> no kidding. ♪ oh yea charleston south carolina is rich in civil war landmarks
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including the old city jail. an operation between 1802 and 1909. from union army and high seas pirates. today, the charleston county jail is the sheriff al cannon detention center. it houses about 1300 men and women. >> selling some cookies for some noodles. get their stomach full because they don't get [ bleep ] in here. >> most of whom are only charged with crimes. they are waiting the resolution of trial of their cases. tilghman kronsberg is only a few days away from his one year anniversary here and his stay isn't likely to end soon. >> it's been horrible. i'm not used to this. you know, there's a lot of guys who come in here and it's no big deal to them. they're content with it and i just can't seem to find that mentality.
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this is my cheese dip, consists of different kind of potato chips. add pickle juice and water. mmm, so good. i grew up actually pretty privileged until i was about 12 years old. my parents had a lot of money, but my father, he had a drug problem and so i went from living in a mansion to living in a room in the back of someone's house that had a bathroom connected to it. i didn't have very many friends growing up at all because i think i threw people off. i was a very sad, depressed child. >> so i grew older, i went to drugs and alcohol to help me cope with everything. >> drugs and alcohol soon led to short jail stays and a variety of related convictions. >> possession of marijuana, public intoxication, open container, stuff like that. i was not a kid who thought i wanted to do this with my life.
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what i wanted to do was win the lottery and sit on a beach and get [ bleep ] up everyday. >> but good fortune would not be in kronsberg's future. he's charged with first-degree murder of his girlfriend. he admits to killing her but pled not guilty in hopes of reaching a plea deal. if found guilty at trial, he's eligible for the death penalty. >> i cried everyday for three or four months. if not for being in jail, it's for taking her life. she's not here anymore. it's more painful than any of this, you know. i can deal with this. >> kronsberg says on the night of the killing, he and his girlfriend got into a heated argument inside of their apartment. >> i didn't come home to kill her, you know. there's no malice or fore thought or anything. it just happened. >> while there's no witnesses
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and kronsberg himself said he blocked out some details, he said his girlfriend picked up a hammer and threatened to kill him. and then he grabbed it from her. >> allegedly, i hit her on the head with it while i was choking her and next thing i knew, she was on the ground and she wasn't moving. so i started screaming. i was freaking out. i was throwing things all over the room and i looked down, and there was a knife. i just stabbed her body like 17 times, apparently. but i think that she had already been deceased. i don't know. i can't be 100% sure. i just didn't know what to do. i didn't know if i should call the police, turn myself in. i decided that i was just going to die. take the easy way out and not have to deal with any of it. i took some like 40 sleeping pills, a bottle of aspirin and
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i downed like a fifth of vodka. i woke up and i was like, [ bleep ], i can't believe i'm alive. this is from the night of what happened. >> kronsberg made another attempt to kill himself by slitting his wrists. >> and then i don't remember anything after that. apparently i was in the hospital for like four or five days. >> kronsberg was brought directly from the hospital to the jail. like many murder cases, his is moving slowly. >> i've been here for a year and my lawyer tells me that i'll probably be here for two more years. i've been denied twice for bond. >> i want to know what you have on your chest. can you tell me about it? >> it's just a heart oozing black blood. it's just how i feel about myself. >> and what's the writing? >> this says tempt not a desperate man from romeo and juliet. i know. coming up -- >> he had buck which is homemade alcohol.
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>> tilghman kronsberg winds up in seg grow gas station. >> i made it out of strips and weaved it together. >> it won't happen again, thanks. >> you realize going to jail. >> an inmate hopes a special jail program will change him before it's too late. people with type 2 diabetes come from all walks of life. if you have high blood sugar, ask your doctor about farxiga. it's a different kind of medicine that works by removing
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breaking news. a rare weekend work session and unexpected swift progress on a key vote on the cromnibus funding bill. kelly o'donnell is with us with more. kelly, have they started the key culture vote? >> reporter: it's under way right now, richard, and it's unof the crucial steps to allow this whole drama about can the government be funded not just for a short-term spurt but for nearly a year for almost all
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departments. that's what we're dealing with tonight. we're in the tenth hour of the senate workday. they've been at all kinds of senate business and this is a critical time. what this means, it's a first step decision that senators make to say we're ready to now move this particular bill to the next phase. this has been a long way coming. it goes back months of effort from two negotiating teams. one from republicans. one from democrats. working through all the different departments. in the last couple of weeks, it really started to come together and as you know, there's been controversy. controversy from the political left where democrats like elizabeth warren and nancy pelosi and macine waters, about the financial regulations after the economic meltdown of 2008. there's a piece in the bill that would, in fact, allow some of the big banks to make some of their higher risk investments known as derivatives using deposits ensured by taxpayers.
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that could lead to another taxpayer bailout and on the conservative right, there's concern about this bill because it does just a short step with respect to immigration. now, the department of homeland security would only be funded for a couple of months. that department would be in charge of carrying out the president's executive actions on immigration. conservatives have deep concerns about that. they say it's not constitutional and the sort of compromise was to not fund that department for the whole year but to carry it into the new year when republicans have more members in both the house and they control the senate. then they'll look at ways to see, can they make changes to what the president decided to do to reduce the number of deportations and to provide legal status for about 5 million people who are here in the country without documentation? so on the left and on the right, concerns about this bill. part of what that means is that
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there's some degree of compromise and bipartisanship in what's happening. but getting it over the finish line has been very difficult, richard. we saw that in the house and now we have this unexpected full day of senate action to try to wrap this up before the end of the year. now, some good news, it was expected this might not even happen until monday. i think some fatigue and some working together over the day, they decided to try to move the calendar up a bit. get this done tonight to end any doubt. no government shutdown. we already knew they passed a short four-day extension to take some of that pressure off, but tonight, they're able to get this through. we presume it will go through and then go to the president's desk. so that would mean the government would be funded for 11 of the 12 departments for a full fiscal year and then look at the issue of homeland security in february. >> kelly, as you've been watching carefully here, senator ted cruze and his moves on
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friday. what may be happening today. what has happened today. how does that affect the outcome we see them voting, what came of that? did that give an opening for democrats there? >> one of the things that has happened because senator cruz and mike lee of utah and some of the conservatives who have been pushing to say, take a breath, don't put this through. there are concerns they have. in some ways what that did by creating this extended weekend session, democrats, mainly harry reid, saw an opening. they said if we're not going to look forward, we're going to use that time to get more of the president's nominations, about two dozen nominations that otherwise might not have gone through on the senate calendar. so it's sort of like a courtroom in some respects. there's a set of rules and each side can use the rules to try to get their best advantage. can cruz used his individual
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right as a senator, harry reid said we've got a plan to get a lot of these nominations. a number of them are controversial including the president's nominee to be surgeon general who has talked about gun rights in a way that troubles conservatives. there are a handful of highly controversial ones. many more that are expected to go through smooth sailing. so basically, the senate has been able to do that today. another interesting point that's unfolding tonight is senator ted cruz led the way on a procedural vote, something called a point of order. his argument is that he believes that the president's actions on immigration are not constitutional. >> right. >> and as a senator, he can ask if all the other senators agree, is it constitutional? is it not? we expect the democrats have the votes without question to say, yes, it is lawful, and that will end it there. but that's an important message because if crews were to prevail on that, effectively it would kill the spending bill we've been talking about and send it
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back to the house. so those are some of the rules they used to send a big political message to try to negotiate what they're looking for and so for conservatives, that's a big message tonight to get that chance to put all senators on the record saying whether they believe the president's actions on immigration are within the constitution or not. a debate that will unfold in other venues to come. richard? >> that you discussed there, is that expected to get the 51 votes to stop the spending bill? >> here's how this would work. to get the point of order, there would be republicans voting. yes, that it is unconstitutional. democrats would vote no, it is not constitutional. or it is within the boundaries of the constitution. so democrats presently have more than 51 senators here. so they can block this. and it's a matter of making sure everyone is actually in the building tonight. there have been times in the past where a senator was absent or someone was sick at a crucial
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vote. they have 54 senators here tonight, so we fully expect that to be blocked, but again, having the action, carrying it out is something the senators believe is important to use their authority as the legislators in the country to send that message to the president or to not send it. and democrats, we fully expect, will block cruz on this and say the president is acting within his power constitutionally and if there are other challenges to that, they'll come in different lawsuits, different venues down the line. richard? >> kelly, stand by. i'll bring in reporter on the phone. you listen to what kelly is telling us, perry. that's unexpectly, they're moving to swift folk in the next hour or so to come up with the confirmation of this spending bill. the kromnibus. >> reporter: you've seen the influence of ted cruz tonight. you assume he'll run for president next year.
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really the first phase of that, to some extent, he's been merging as the leader of the conservatives in the senate. he's -- mitch mcconnell made an agreement to basically have this vote on monday with harry reid and senate minority leader. democratic leader. ted cruz said no, i'll fight this. this will be a way to show a stand. there's a number of senate democrats, mary lander among them, who said i did not like the president's action. i did not like the president work on immigration reform on his own. there's democrats on the issue. even if the amendment does not pass, the republicans view this as a way to use the issue going forward or maybe in 2015 senate campaign and say this is an unpopular action president obama took to legalize some here. and a political football going forward, even if the vote does not pass.
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so there's a benefit for the republicans. all minds recused personally of ambition. >> perry, 20 seconds to you on this one and the way some have to look at what happened over the last week. who comes out the winner here? >> i think the winner of this has been so far elizabeth warren and ted cruz who have now i think really emerged as the leaders of two wings of the parties. and that's a very significant of what happened this week. >> perry bacon, kelly o'donnell, thank you very much for the update. we'll have the final vote for passage when it happens on msnbc. we'll go back to caught on camera right after this.
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founded by amy barch, the program is based on the concept of restorative justice. >> it's an approach that said it's important to bring back the people harmed by the crimes for all of us to get together and see one another as people and build compassion and understanding and that's where real change happens. >> when we choose violence as a way to respond to problems, we have to stand responsible to what happens even if the intent is never there. >> we were lucky to have ryan with us. >> kary was left with permanent injuries to his right arm and head. >> the first time i talked, i couldn't sit in the chair. i was just shaky and nervous, but it's very rewarding. about 8 years ago, i got off work at night and i was going home to have dinner with my
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family. parked across the street from my folk's house and was walking across the street and a car stopped at the stop sign and the passenger got out. and came up to me asking for directions. as soon as he got up to me, he hit me. kind of stepped back, reached for my wallet, gave him my wallet and then the driver of the car got out and threw me on the ground and started stabbing me. i got my throat slit, i got my lung punctured, i got stabbed 40 times. the first knife wound that i remember was the knife actually went up and it went through my tongue and so for months after the assault, i couldn't even really talk. i was able to get up and get into my parents' house and the
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last thing i was able to do with my right hand is lock the door. i was able to get up and get away because they had broken off all the knives inside me, so they ran out of weapons. i passed out on the rug and got all the way into the emergency room and my heart stopped. and spent two months in a hospital. i had, i think, 25 surgeries in a span of two years. when i was in the hospital, my dad had to wipe my ass for me. i couldn't do anything by myself. i felt useless. i felt like my manhood was gone. i couldn't have any kind of a relationship with women. i couldn't really have any relationships with anybody. i was a mess. i drank and took drugs.
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i put myself in situations where i thought i might harm myself because i just didn't care. i thought about suicide all the time, so i'm really, really lucky to be here. my confidence is still crap, you know? i can't interact well. i keep my hand in my pocket. this happened 8 years ago and i'm still embarrassed and, you know, because it's -- my life is totally different. >> were you panicked when people walk up to you and try to talk to you? >> not anymore. i got over that. but i couldn't leave the house. >> couldn't leave the house? >> i couldn't leave the house, no. i couldn't, you know, i mean, it sucks to say this, but it's the truth.
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a couple black guys did it and if i was walking down the street, a couple black dudes were walking towards me, that was it. i was going the other direction. >> i understand. >> i'm over that now, but it's in your head, you know, and you can't get it out of your head. >> right. >> was there any loss of faith or gain of faith in god as a result of the situation? >> i was looking for god's help when i was being stabbed for sure, but after the fact, i had no faith in god. how could god let something like this happen to me? i never hurt anybody in my life. but as time as gone on, i have a lot of faith in people. i'm spiritual, i guess, is the -- there's a lot of good in the world. i mean, i've had a good life.
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i've had so much luck in my life. it's just this one incident of bad luck. >> even though i'm in here and an offender, i never committed a violent crime but your story, it transforms my mind, you know, because it makes me think a lot further, you know, even a person who victim of crimes, could transform into something else. >> thank you for being with us today. [ applause ] >> consistently what they'll tell me the thing that impacted me the most was hearing from the victims. he thinks, ryan went through all of that trauma, no fault of his own and he's been able to continue on. he hasn't turned to a life of crime. i think that provides them with an ability to reflect on their own life and think about what's possible for them. >> he got stabbed 40 times. coming up -- >> created this, right? >> yes, sir. >> you think that's safe to be
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states constitution. this bill has thus originated in the house within the meaning of the origination clause of first vote on the cromnibus bill meant to go through september 2015. it's the first of several votes on the bill. there's the point of order requested by texas senator ted cruz going on right now and the final senate passage vote. wraps up remaining presidential nominations before heading home for the holidays. we'll have the final vote for you right here on msnbc, but for now, back to "lock-up." >> due to mature subject matter, viewer discretion is advised.
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get off the pot. >> oh, oh. >> inside the sheriff al cannon detention center in charleston, tilghman kronsberg is nearing the end of 30 days in disciplinary segregation for making bock, or homemade alcohol. he's allowed out of his cell an hour per day but usually walks in the rec yard. >> fresh air is nice. being cooped up in a room all day. sometimes 3 e's out, i can talk to people from my old unit. >> kronsberg said the last time he was in segregation, he contemplated suicide and even made a noose. >> i'm on medication, so i feel a little better. it's pretty depressing being in here, you know, no one to talk to. >> what goes through your mind? >> just every bad thing i've
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done to get where i'm at now. it's pretty much all i think about. you know, i guess it's kind of what i deserve. >> kronsberg is awaiting trial for the murder of his 25-year-old girlfriend. during a heated argument, he allegedly choked her, struck her with a hammer and stabbed her multiple times. jail officials allowed us to give him a video camera to record personal thoughts about this or anything else in privacy. >> i was very emotionally involved with the girl. i imagine that if i wasn't so emotionally involved with her, there would have been a different outcome. you know, i lost my [ bleep ], blacked out. i don't remember half of it. i don't know. it's just unbelievable to me. i loved her more than anything in the [ bleep ] world and i just can't believe this happened.
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this life is over for me. unfortunately, i don't believe in the next one. i wish i did and i hope i'm wrong. but then again if i am wrong, i'll be going straight to hell. so i'm pretty much [ bleep ] either way. >> kronsberg completed his time in segregation but two weeks later, he might be headed back. this time for allegedly crafting an unusual weapon. >> this ball has been manufactured from pieces of peeled paint and probably has a toilet paper core or pieces of fabric as a core, something to wrap the paint around. >> that's harder than a golf ball right there. >> and it doesn't even mark it when you hit it against
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concrete. >> two nights ago, they searched my room. they found a ball i had made out of paint that i used to bounce against the wall, a tennis ball out of boredom thing. i went to the board to make a decision on whether i can stay or go. good morning, members of the board. i've prepared a little thing to read. i hope, if you don't mind. >> could you have a seat, please. >> possession of a weapon and defacing public property. >> kronsberg, this is your opportunity to tell us what happened. >> yes, sir. thank you, sir. first off, what i wanted to say is i completely understand and agree with the officer's decision. i can totally see why he would think this could be a weapon. it was a hardball of paint and i
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used it to just bounce off the walls, sort of like a tennis ball out of boredom. i've been in jail for 14 months and locked up twice before. i signed the paper, admitted my guilt and this time, i am completely innocent of charges against me. the idea that this ball was a weapon is completely unfounded. >> mr. kronsberg, here's my issue with your story and your history. >> yes, sir. >> how many times have you been in 1a for serious violations? >> twice all together since i've been in jail. >> have you heard the term progressive discipline? >> yes, sir. >> you know what that means? >> yes, sir. >> the more you break rules, the more time you're going to serve in lock-up. >> i understand that. i can assure you, i will never, ever, ever do this again. >> i believe you. >> you know -- >> you just have a history of trying to create stuff is what
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it looks like. >> you manufacture that ball, your roommate gets mad, puts it in his sock and cracks a person in his skull. who introduced item that became a weapon? >> it never became a weapon. >> because we got you. >> you can't charge me if i never made it a weapon. >> you made a dangerous weapon that could hurt someone seriously. >> it was a ball, man. >> you created this, right? >> yes, sir. >> you think that's safe to be in here? >> obviously, it is not. and i was wrong to create it. >> thank you. anybody else have anymore questions? thank you, mr. kronsberg. you can step out. >> a few minutes later, kronsberg is brought back into the hearing room. >> the disciplinary board found you guilty on both charges.
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you're being sentenced to 40 days in disciplinary status. >> 40 days, are you serious? >> we were looking at 50. your actions, progressively, we're adding 10 days. you got less than the maximum but you need to change how you behave within the facility. >> i'll make sure i won't make any toys from now on. >> here's your copy. >> 40 [ bleep ] days. god, this is some [ bleep ]. >> 13, i believe. >> all right. hey, thanks for coming and seeing me, amy. i appreciate it.
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[ bleep ]. [ bleep ] damn it. >> amy, the jail's mental health specialist saw kronsberg the last time he was in segregation and helped him get a change in medication. >> he obviously made a choice that earned him some more disciplinary time. the only thing is that he might have projected some of the feelings on to me. i think he should take responsibility for that and not blame that on my lack of being able to follow up with him as much as he would like to. coming up -- >> got the pizza party coming at the end.
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not really worried about the pizza, man. i'm worried about getting on out of here. >> the turning leaf inmates prepare for graduation and tilghman kronsberg gets a visit from home. >> i'm not doing that. >> i'm hanging up. >> you're hanging up? >> yeah, because i can't listen to this anymore. america red cros hope and help to people in need every 8 minutes, every day. so this season give something that means something.
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>> 10-21 before you 10-19. inside the sheriff al cannon detention center in charleston. >> so this is a really good start for the impact that violent crime has an individual. >> the turning leaf program owned by amy barch is in the final weeks of classes. >> at the end of the course, we have a graduation. i always tell the participants that's my day off and it's their opportunity to run the class. they do poems, testimonials. >> amy asked leonard heyward to emcee the ceremony. >> looking forward to it. the pizza party at the end. >> not worried about the pizza, man. worried about getting out of here. i can't sit back behind the wall and watch life pass me by. my daughter is my motivation. after graduation, i hope they call my name as they have the certificate in my hand and that's it and then i'm out the door.
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>> check. tilghman kronsberg will also leave the jail someday but it will most likely be on a bus to state prison. >> you have a visit. >> kronsberg admits to killing his girlfriend during an argument in which she said he threatened him with a hammer but even those closest to him are not optimistic about his future. >> i think he'll go to jail for a long time. i think i'll be dead before he gets out. i'll never be with him. i know that. >> jean reese is kronsberg's mother. even though he was sent to segregation, he gets to see her. she's undergoing treatment for breast cancer. >> when i first got in, i don't know how to say or feel, i was
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shocked about what he'd done but i thought, he's my son and i love him. i went in and when he saw me, he broke down like he was 4 years old. he was crying and went into total hysterics and never thought you'd speak to me again. and i just said to him, i'm here. i love you and i'm going to support you. hey. >> hey. >> how are you today? >> how are you doing? >> i'm fine. >> so you don't know what just happened? i just got 40 days in segregation. >> what happened? >> i had a ball made out of paint to bounce against the wall when i was bored. they charged me with having a weapon.
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>> i thought you were going to follow the rules. >> mom, it's a ball of paint. >> i don't mean to lecture you but you know you can't deviate for a minute. >> i'm like the most respectful person in this place. i mean, it's just unbelievable. it's like if you run around and scream like a [ bleep ] monkey all day long, you get what you want in here and everyone is nice to you but if you're respectful, people just don't understand. like you're speaking greek to them or something and they don't understand. >> tilghman, you're just getting really wound up. you're getting really -- >> i'm extremely angry right now. do you know how horrible it is to be in 1a for 40 days? >> i know. that's why i think you do everything in your power to not get in there.
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they think you did. you have to figure out how they're thinking so this doesn't happen to you, keep happening to you. >> i got in a fight and stabbed somebody, i would have got the same punishment. it's ridiculous, everyone. >> i know, it's not everyone. it's you. >> i don't care if it hurts me. i just want to say [ bleep ] you to everyone. if that hurts me, so be it. locked in a [ bleep ] cage for 14 months straight, you're like a dog or a pit bull they poke or jab with a [ bleep ] stick. i'm pissed off. >> no kidding. i mean, i know. >> [ bleep ] these people. they don't give a [ bleep ]. i'm not giving into them. i don't care how much it hurts me. i'm not giving into them. >> all right. >> following their stupid rules, makes no sense. i'm not giving into them. i'm sorry.
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>> okay, i'm hanging up. i love you. >> you're hanging up? >> yeah, because i can't listen to this anymore. >> i love you too. >> i mean, you have something else you can talk about? i just don't think you can. you're in a rage and i don't know how to deal with it. >> i'd like to talk how you're doing besides all of this. how are you doing with the cancer and everything? i do care. i hope you believe i care about you. >> i do. i believe that. i do believe that. i told you this before. you know, i'm not going to be around forever. i'm not asking to do anything for me. i'm asking to do it for you. >> i'm sorry that i'm having to bring this to you. you're dealing with enough as it is and it is another thing you have to deal with. i apologize to you. >> well, this is our loss. >> yeah, you and me together. yes, exactly. >> it's the situation. i'm sorry i upset you. >> well, it's all right. i'll live. and i'm sorry you're upset. i love you a lot and just try to
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be strong. >> i love you too. >> okay, bye. >> bye. >> i feel bad for him. the truth is, i really love him and i don't want him to see him being unhappy but i've been watching him be unhappy for many years. i knew that something was not going to end up with tilghman, but i never suspected this. he was always really impulsive, never thought about tomorrow or any consequences. coming up -- >> convict. degenerate. felon. these are the titles by which we are described. >> leonard heyward delivers his address. e rhythm of life. [ whistle blowing ] where do you hear that beat? campbell's healthy request soup lets you hear it in your heart. [ basketball bouncing ] heart healthy. [ m'm... ] great taste.
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detention center, it's a special day for a group of inmates who have spent ten weeks in a program designed to keep them from returning to jail. it was created by amy barch. >> honored guests, my name is leonard heyward and i welcome you to the graduation ceremony of the turning leaf project. today, you will witness a variety of speeches, testimonials, skits, and poems. and it's our hope that we effectively convey our positive changes and ambitions to you. >> my thoughts control my actions and if i think better, i'll act better and now that i know better, i'll do better. as a husband, as a member of the community, and most importantly, a father to my children. >> i'm 25 years old. i've been to jail 19 times. had no family, so got to think about something else.
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nobody to care for me, why do i got to care about anybody else? that's how i felt. amy changed my thinking. be the person you want to be. >> i was abusing drugs for years. i once trusted and respected man in the community. i turned into a liar, a cheat, a thief. like the great man said, henry ford, don't find fault. find a remedy. that's what this class has done for me. it's a remedy. amy's been amazing. she believes in us. she never once had a doubt in us. even when others have given up on us and she still believes in us. [ applause ] >> i'm so, so proud of you guys. you all know that. ridiculously proud of you guys. you've been my best group ever. i've never had 17 people graduate. so that's really a testimony to the effort that these guys put
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in to finish. let me go ahead and hand out the certificates. we have sinclair drayton. sean earles. barry roush. awesome speech today, really, awesome speech. leonard heyward, all right, leo. and i'll let leo finish out the day. >> let's hold up these diplomas right about here. while i say these eight words: loser, low life, criminal, convict, degenerate, reprobate, failure, felon, these are the titles by which we are described. and somehow in the back of our minds, we've let those words burn in the brain and then actions tend to follow suit. but that's not why we're
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standing here today. we're living and breathing examples of what this class can positively manifest. you, i, we are part of the community and the only way we're going to truly solve the problems that we all face, we're going to have to set aside these negative titles and not be forever caged by our mistakes of the past. so we, the graduates of the turning leaf project, humbly thank you for the time that you spent with us here this afternoon and we also thank you for providing us with an opportunity for self-improvement. bless you, thank you. [ applause ] >> these guys get the opportunity to talk about what they learned and it's such a
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valuable thing for them because they get the certificate, they get the recognition and a lot of these guys have never had that kind of opportunity. so it's awesome. >> that's mu buddy. love you. >> love you too, man. >> heard people come to prison and sooner or later, be back out on the streets. this is a try to make a change. 100 plus people, only had three or four back already. >> so proud of you. >> this was more important to me than being the other side of the wall. because if you're not ready, you're not ready. i wanted to be ready first. looking forward to reuniting with my family, that's the next step. >> and just a few hours later, as planned, leonard heyward out of jail and headed home. >> how does it feel? >> a lot better than outside rec. i'll say that. a lot better, a lot better
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. hi, i'm richard lui with breaking news. it's the unexpected final vote on funding the government through 2015. the bill making it through the first key votes. it's the final vote going on. the trillion dollar bill is expected to pass because of the last minute deal to move the scheduled final vote from monday until tonight. it's an uncomm
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