good morning. i'm bill karins in for thomas roberts. it's monday december 29th. welcome to way too early. let's get right to the latest on the search for air asia flight 8501. they continue to search what happened to the plane and where it might be. it is in the java sea where the plane disappeared. it includes a lot of planes and helicopters. loved ones are awaiting any word on the flight which had 162 people on board including 155 from indonesia but officials are not sounding optimistic about the outcome. the head of indonesia's search and rescue agency says it's likely the plane is at the bottom of the sea. at 5:39 a.m. sunday morning the airbus plane took off from sur

surabaya for a two hour flight. the pilot asked to call and change flight path and 6:17 42 minutes into the flight all contact was lost. no distress call was received. there was severe weather at the time in the area and thunderstorms and lightning. those conditions mean the knight likely encountered turbulence but not even within the thunderstorms but several miles beyond the storm. the pilot of the plane had more than 20,000 hours of flying experience and the plane made more than 13,000 trips. flight 8501 is the latest in a series of tragedies this year. if the plane did crash it would be the third disaster in 2014 for the malaysia aviation industry. it has been nine months since flight 370 vanished on its way to beijing. they never found any wreckage of

the plane with 279 people on board. four months later flight 17 was shot down over a rebel controlled region of eastern ukraine. they both blame prorussian separatists. all 289 people on board that flight died and malaysia airlines was already losing millions of dollars but the tragedies led to wider losses and mayorjor overhaul for the company. and air algerie flight crashed in northern mali. they're still investigating the cause. now let's bring in our foreign affairs correspondent and you logged thousands of miles yourself. what about this story over the weekend is making you shake your head the most about this tragedy. >> first of all good morning bill. i want to pick up on a couple of key aspects that you just mentioned this morning. there was no radio call and there was no emergency transponder signal.

that's key. it tells us that the crew weren't aware of the conditions that they were getting themselves into or there was something catastrophic which prevented them from putting out the radio call. >> i heard it is common that pilots when they're trying to save their planes their first thought is not let's call the control tower. it's let's try to save the plane first. it may not be that shocking they didn't call. >> what you're talking about is the mantra that all pilots are taught when they go through flying train chg is aviation, navigate communicate. whenever you have an emergency the first thing we're thought to do -- and we have over 3,000 hours around the world is to fly the airplane. you then navigate it to the nearest diversion you can be aware of to get the aircraft on the ground. once you're going in the right direction you put out a radio call. usually it's a mayday.

if you get time after that you can put 7700 on the transponder which will alert anyone seeing your transponder code on the radar it will alert and flash and let the world know that you have a problem but what's different for me is these guys are operating in a big crew so a lot of these things can happen simultaneously. the copilot will have the map and be inpointing the diversion and then the engineer or someone else can maybe put out a radio call at the same time. so these things happen very expeditiously and quickly. i want to take you to the air france 449 disaster. that's the french jet that crashed in brazil. there was no call on that and it was only two years later once the black boxes and flight data recorder and cockpit voice recorders and that was two years after. >> that was see veerverely deep water.

>> but the air force 449 flight was important because the pilots got themselves in a situation where there was a catastrophic stall but didn't realize they were in a stall. the aircraft was descending at 14,000 feet per minute and they didn't realize they were in it and a call didn't go out but this information wasn't gleaned until over two years later they have been poured over by the analysts. >> are you optimistic that we'll know something sooner than later because of the shallow body of water? we had the flight on radar and we knew where it was when the signal was lost. >> people are starting and people will naturally start to draw conclusions and alignments to mh-370 but there are very key differences as well. one is the actual depth of the ocean. if you look at air france 449, very very -- >> trenches. >> very deep ocean which makes

looking for it using these sub surface or underwater vehicles, makes it incredibly difficult but if you look at malaysia 370 and remember where the satellite analysis took us down about 1300 miles off the coast. we're looking at depths of 15,018,000 feet which are incredibly hard to search. the java sea on average is 150 meters and we have a fairly good idea of what the coordinates were for the last known position of this flight. which makes it a little bit easier because what the investigators and search and rescue guys are going to have to do is come up with baseline assumptions. they're going to have to look at an assumption on speed and altitude. they'll put them in various trenches they'll come up with an enturns and that will allow them to look at a fuel burn and eventually get a range.

they'll be able to draw this out and come up with a search area. >> appreciate it. thank you so much for your expertise. >> cheers. >> we'll keep you updated on all the new developments on this story as they come in throughout the morning. turning to other news this morning the city of new york and particularly it's police force remain de remain divided over mayor de de blasio's approach. some turned their back on him during the eulogy. he said our sole focus is unifying the city and honoring the lives of our police officers. while de blasio may have given the idea he was on the side of the points higher tess tos he should still give support. >> the mayor of the city of new york shouldn't be blamed for the

murder of those police officers. i told the mayor that yesterday. the mayor is not to be treated with people turning their backs. doesn't matter if you like the mayor or don't like the mayor you have to respect the mayor's position but i do believe mayor de blasio should apologize to the new york city police department. >> officer lu's funeral is this sunday. >> the u.s. formally ended it's combat role in america's longest role. they retired the nato flag at a ceremony on sunday and replaced it with another representing a new mission with afghan's taking the lead. in a statement president obama said for more than 13 years ever since nearly 3,000 innocent lives were taken from us on 9/ 11 our nation has been at war in afghanistan. now thanks to the extraordinary

sacrifices of our men and women in uniform our combat mission in afghanistan is ending and coming to a responsible conclusion. the government is already being tested. the taliban killed a record number of afghans in the past year and a recent spade of attacks have occurred inside the capitol implths capitol. >> sony's decision to release it's controversial film the interview could be a watershed as to how movies are delivered to audiences. they put it on itunes google play and youtube movies. the first four days it brought in $3 million in the box office but did five times that number in digital screenings. that's the most successful digital release as well. by some estimates it's been downloaded illegally 750,000

times. it was viewed illegally hundreds of thousands of times alone in china. it was expected to make 20 murder in the second degree it's opening weekend. sony's playstation is back online after an unrelated attack to a different entity in the sony corporation. they saw artificially high level of traffic designed to crash the system. it crippled the sony playstation network for three days and there were still residual problems. a group called lizard squad claimed responsibility. in asia stock markets are reacting to the missing air asia plane. the company stock tumbled after news the plane had vanished. how did the stock fair in monday trading? >> as you can expect after this what we believe could be a tragic accident the stock was under a lot of pressure. it closed down around 8.5% in asian trading.

it's been a real out performer up to december 26th before this incident. it was around 34% for the year. air asia is owner of 49% of air asia indonesia which was the operator of this aircraft. highly rated stock as well. analysts had it as a byeuy rating before this incident. no fatalities. and an entrepreneur that has many plans for air asia is of course very very concerned at the fate of those crew and passengers. looking at the u.s. markets i'm taking a look over my shoulder after a very strong run up on the previous trading session on friday. we are slightly low and the dow down at 1%. the s&p futures trading 1% lower. this is coming off a very strong

run for the u.s. markets in the last seven sessions the s&p put on 6% to the upside and registered it's 52nd record close of 2014. >> it's so great here. wouldn't it be great to finish at record highs and start the new year like that. steve is live in london for us thank you and have a great monday. still ahead more details on the search for the missing air asia flight. plus what makes the search differ from that of mh-370 earlier this year and regular season play comes to an end in the nfl. your sunday night football highlights up next and a look at the wildcard weekend ahead. that story and a check on your forecast when way too early comes right back. >> the police knew the bomb was a big one with a blast equal to 25 sticks of dynamite. they knew it had been hidden in

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welcome back on this monday. right now crews are continuing their search for air asia flight 8501. the head of the search and rescue agency says the plane is likely at the bottom of the java sea. a dozen navy ships and several planes and helicopters are searching for the jet with 162 people on board. officials think it may have crashed because of bad weather conditions which included high winds and thunderstorms and lightning. well let's switch gears now and turn the sports. the nfl wrapped up the regular season yesterday. let's take a look at the highlights from around the league. >> 1st and 10. flacco. smith. touchdown. >> here comes the blitz. they get eightway quick. far side. what a move.

dez bryant. he's trying to go all the way. the man to beat bryant takes it home. touchdown dallas. >> on 2nd down and 11. rolls to the pocket a little and fires to the far side. has it. he is wide open and not only does andrew luck have the record he may have six points. >> it's 4th down for san diego. give it to brown again, he's denied. kansas city steps up. >> 2nd and 5. anderson again and anderson breaking free for the touchdown. >> delivers again to kendricks and he lost it. ball picked up. bruce irvin, touchdown seahawks. >> who is going to bet against the seahawks at this point? the ravens slip into the post season after beating the browns and the chargers pitiful loss to the chiefs. a record setting day for dez bryant and demarco murray plus

the broncos and seahawks each clench first round byes yesterday. now pittsburgh versus the cincinnati bengals. this is for the afc north title. bengals trailing by three. that's dalton to a.j. green. the ball strip addway and recovered by the steelers. pittsburgh now big ben is going to take advantage of this. how about the year antonio brown has had. one of the best years a wide receiver has ever had. 62 yards to the end zone untouched. a 20-17 win over cincinnati. they'll host the ravens in the first round of the playoffs. green bay the packers hosting the lions. already up 7-0. quarterback aaron rogers extends the packers lead to two touchdown with the pass to randall cobb but rogers gets carted off the field with a calf injury. he actually when into the game with it too. it wasn't all that unexpected.

the lions come back with a pair of touchdown passes from matthew stafford to calvin johnson but rogers makes the big return to the field in third quarter. another touchdown there to cobb and a one yard score himself later in the game. he seals it. mvp at the end of the game for rogers. packers win it 30-20. let's go to atlanta. what a disappointing game this was, wow. the falcons hosting the panthers. this is a playoff game. the winner was going to get in. you thought the falcons were going to show up and it be a close game. the highlights tell the story. huge plays by the panthers defense. that's a nice return there. that's a touchdown. this wasn't even close. the score was 34-3 and the falcons got booed off their own home field at the end of the game. they'll go to the playoffs despite the losing record. the panthers go for the second year in a row.

with the regular season over and the playoff team set we head into the wildcard weekend. patriots seahawks packers, broncos they get the week off. in the afc the ravens visit the steelers. that could be a great game and then of course what could be a defensive battle cincinnati has a great defense and andrew luck with the colts that could be entertaining on sunday. in the afc, in the nfc the panthers are going to host -- who had that one? the arizona cardinals and the carolina panthers and the game of twnd in the big d the detroit lions visit tony romo and the dallas cowboys. entertaining stuff. let's get back to our missing flight and the weather implications because the line of thunderstorms will probably be a big piece of the missing puzzle to what happened to the air asia flight. the thunderstorms in the path the blue line was the flight path. there was a line of storms east to west that the flight had to go through.

it couldn't go over so the pilot using the radar on the plane had to pick a path through the storms. that's what we know happened. he requested a change in course and altitude and that's when the plane went missing somewhere between 32 and 38,000 feet. the area where the flight was mitszing the weather has been nice. the sun is about to set now in that area on day 2 of the search. the first day they cancelled and stopped searching once the sunset. that will be happening in the next hour. as far as the forecast goes in this region it's not good. this is the monsoon season. it rains a lot. on and off thunderstorms. our computers estimating 4 to 6 inches of rain in the next two to three days. that's not good for people in the surface and then of course visibility with all of the clouds. as far as the weather back home we're watching a cold outbreak. we just got done with one of the warmest decembers ever recording. we'll head into the new year

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welcome back. as we continue to monitor the search for missing air asia flight 8501 it's disappearance will draw conclusions to malaysia airlines flight 370. they went missing under very different circumstances. the air asia flying encounters high winds, thunderstorms and lightning while flight 370 had clear skies and no unusual weather conditions were reported.

the air asia pilot asked to change course and fly higher because of the weather but 370's path was diverted for unknown reasons. it crashed likely in the java sea. flight 370 which has never been located is suspected of crashing in the indian ocean which is very large and of course very deep body of water. now let's get a check on a few of the morning's other headlines. former president george h.w. bush is spending another morning in the hospital but a spokesman says he could be back home soon. the 90-year-old was admitted to houston methodist hospital tuesday after suffering short ps shortness of breath. last year he spent two months in the hospital with a cough but in june he celebrated his birthday by skydiving. >> creek and italian helicopter crews worked into the night to air lift passengers off this burning ferry adrift in the ark dri -- adriatic sea.

it caught fire early sunday morning. 329 people have been evacuated but 149 passengers and crew remain stranded. strong winds and rough seas are making it difficult for rescue boats to approach. four injuries are reported and one man did die trying to evacuate the ship. stay tuned for morning joe for more coverage of the missing air asia flight. so ally bank really has no hidden fees on savings accounts? that's right. it's just that i'm worried about you know "hidden things..." ok, why's that? no hidden fees from the bank where no branches equals great rates. i will take beauty into my own hands where it belongs. olay regenerist instantly changes the look of skin. it regenerates surface cells

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