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good morning everyone. i'm ayman mohyeldin in for tamron hall. we're following breaking news near london a virgin atlantic flight made an emergency landing at gatwick international airport. it returned to gatwick airport after the plane developed a technical fault. a boeing 747. you are looking at life pictures of the plane on the tarmac at gatwick international airport. the airline said it would be a nonstandard landing because of the technical problem was experiencing. emergency services were on standby as a precaution. you see them on the tarmac near the plane. the plane that took off from gatwick returned. developing news that the
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desperate search for the missing airasia jet line with 162 people on board. a top research and rescue official said the plane is likely, quote, at the bottom of the sea. it's about 11:00 p.m. there. the search is suspended for the night. 30 ships and 15 aircraft had joined in the search today. for the relatives of those on board it's being another agonizing day of waiting and hoping for a miracle. the airbus a 320 took off sunday from indonesia's second largest city head are if singapore. a two hour flight. 38 minutes into the flight the pilot asked to change course and climb higher. the course change was approved but 42 minutes into the flight contact was lost. no distress call was received. latest on the search in
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singapore. >> it is nighttime in singapore. the search has been called off for dakrkness. they'll resume tomorrow. there is rain expected in the area tomorrow and there is concern that rain might hamper the search effort. they are searching around the bell tong islands. it's around the area where they last had radar contact with the plane. right before they went off radar, pilots called the flight the control tower and asked for a change in altitude. they wanted to fly at 38,000 feet to avoid bad weather. the flight hasn't been heard from since. two full days of searching and no official sign of the feat of the airport. there was unconfirmed report of debris spotted in the area but it was quite a ways off from the last known location of the plane. and we learned anything from hmh 370 to take the spottings with a grain of salt.
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families are waited with baited edbathed bretd. indonesia officials are urging caution. they're preparing people from the worst. from their coordinates they believe the plane crashed in the java sea and underwater. a lot of questions what happened. and why were the other planes in the area that were flying in this same area when the plane went off radar why did they not have any trouble. >> one question is what role bad weather played in the experience of air asia flight 8501 as katie tur mentioned the weather could hamper the search efforts want to and tomorrow. bill karins joins us with more on that. bill, first talk to me about the weather at the time of flight 8501 when it disappeared. >> yeah, unfortunately we don't have radar we're familiar with in this country when the flight
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went down. but the plane did have aradar and the pilot could see. that's most likely why he called for a diversion. that's why he went around the storm or tried to. here is what the set up was over the area. they were 45 minutes ss into the flight. and the line of three storms that's the line of storms the flight had to go through. pilot saw the storms and realized he needed to change the planes. here is a slice of a thunderstorms and give you a cross section of it. the plane itself with a 34,000 fight. the form up to 50,000 fight. the pie locate could not go over the storm. we know that. the the first thing the pilot may have seen the indication there was lot hail in that storm. maybe that's why he wanted to go around it. it's common procedure and other planes do it every day across
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the world and across our country often. maybe also the turbulence. you can't see the turbulence. they have indicators of it. other planes threw the area. if it's a rapidly developing storm maybe they didn't know the turbulence. you could deal with lightning and icing on the wings. that's certain elevations with super cool drops of air. those are the possibilities of what they could have been dealing with. we won't know nshlofficially until we get the black box. for more let's try to bring in our "newsnation" experts john cox. a 30 year veteran with u.s. airways and safety board member katherine higgins. thank you for joining us. katherine, we're learning that the air asia plane was not fitted with a satellite
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communication system. how could that have helped in the ongoing search effort? >> that -- i don't think it would have made any difference. it was deviating around weather and it was normal. they asked for a change in course and change in altitude. they made the course change and whatever occurred occurred very quickly and it took the preoccupation and the focus of the crew to deal with that situation so they did not make any contact with air traffic control after that. air traffic control watched the loss of the target and they were alerted very quickly. i'm confident they'll find it quickly. >> katherine, let's ask you about this. are you surprised no pings have been detected. no emergency locater beacon discovered? >> i guess one question whether they deployed sonar that would
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help them hear those pings. and i think my understanding there's a request out for sonar assistance. but it may not have put into place yet. the one question i have and maybe john knows the answer whether the plane has the acar system in which case data could be downloaded from both the airline and airbus that might also provide information about what was happening. >> that's pose the question to john. do you know if the plane was equipped with that? >> i understand it it was equipped with acars and adsb data data. i believe it's evaluated. it hasn't been released publicly ly yet. >> c is. premature to assume that weather was a factor? could it be a factor? could it not? how do we know? >> i think we know that weather
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was a factor. the pilot asked to divert around it. we also to remember there are i would say there are three factors. mother nature the machine, the aircraft itself and the pilot. the human performance. and it's the interaction of all three of those that will lead us to the answer of what happened. i don't think we can say it's just one, as you said pilots other pilots flew through other aircraft. the question what was going on with the flight with the crew with the particular aircraft and the weather. >> john talk about flying in conditions like this. bill karins talked about the severe thunderstorms in the area at the time. we know the pilot asked to change flight course because of the weather conditions. talk about flying in weather like that and what it would be like for the pilot who had more than 20,000 hours of flying experience. >> professional pilots deal with thurps on a routine basis. we have on board weather radar and had doppler weather radar.
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you get real time very good information about where the intense parts of the thunderstorms are. and when you look at clusters of thunderstorms like these pilots face it's not one very large cell, it is made up of numerous smaller ones. you can work the smaller cells below your altitude so you can work your way around the clusters of cells. that's what the flight was trying to do and other flights in the area were doing successfully that night. >> does it surprise you there was no may day call that we don't have any communication from the pilot whether or not the plane may be going down or what he was doing in the final minutes? not necessarily. pilots are trained to take a priority of first airplane, fly the airplane and take the steps neces to deal with whatever the problem comes up. recognize that air traffic control is as good as they are, they solely separate airports from other airplanes.
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so that anything that comes up in flight first and foremost the pilots handle it internally. when they have time and it's appropriate, then and only then do they talk to air-traffic control. >> thank you very much for joining us with that analysis on the situation. also developing now officials say they finished evacuating hundreds of passengers that were trapped on a ferry boat that caught fire yesterday as it was traveling from greece to italy. those passengers had to be air lifted one by one as rescuers and helicopters battled high winds and stormy seas. tragically officials say seven people are now confirmed dead. nbc keir simmons joins us live. >> we're told as you say, seven people have been confirmed dead. but there are passengers who escaped the ferry who say they is a many bodies. the death toll could rise. the good news all the surviving passengers have now been rescued
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from the ferry. it was difficult. as you can see from the pictures an intense fire that believed to start on the car deck meant that passengers couldn't get down. they said literally their shoes were melting. they tried to get on the lower decks to get off the ferry. they were huddled on the top. you can see a chopper air lifting sometimes one by one passengers from the ferry. it looks like hundreds of passengers had to get off that way. many of them suffering hypothermia as a result of being out in the very difficult conditions overnight. >> what happens next with the ferry and, also i know you were talking about everyone being evacuated off that. do we know anything more from the captain of that ferry? >> we know the italians have launched an investigation and in order for that to happen to answer your question what happens next they need to get the ferry back from where it is
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now. it was traveling between greece and italy back to the coast in order for the information to take place. the captain is apparently still on board with some officials. so you assume that means they believe that the ferry is intact and can be taken back to shore and begins trying to figure out what happened. the owners of the ferry are saying there was a safety information not long before this particular sailing. so i guess they have to go through piece by piece and try to figure it out. as i mentioned, they think the fires began on the car deck of the ferry. that might be the first place they start and might give them some clues. >> keir simmons, thank you. developing now at this hour new york city mayor bill de blasio is set to speak at the nypd graduation ceremony. you're looking at the live picture of the arena as they get ready for the mayor to speak. we're monitoring this and bring
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you the remarks when they happen. coming up a new poll shows confidence in the nation's justice system is deeply divided along racial lines. what does the president think? an update on former president george h.w. bush as he spends a seventh day in the hospital. when will he be discharged? parts of los angeles on alert. the search on for the gunman who opened fire on an lapd officer. one of the stories we're following around the "newsnation".." >> important message for women and men ages 50 to 85. please write down this toll-free number now. right now, in areas like yours, people are receiving this free information kit for guaranteed acceptance life insurance with a rate lock through the colonial penn program. if you're on a fixed income or concerned
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we're looking now at live pictures from madison square
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garden in new york city where mayor de blasio about to deliver remarks at the nypd graduation ceremony. it comes amid rising tension between the mayor's officer and the police department. one of the two officers gunned down in their patrol car in brooklyn. in a statement the mayor's office said, quote our police department and city are dealing with an unconscionable tragedy. our sole focus is unifying the city and honoring the lives of our two police officers. the funeral for wenjian liu who was also killed in the shooting will happen in the coming days. joining me now is new york city council member. thank you for joining us. i want to ask you to get your reaction to a recent poll. we know that the issues are not unique to new york. according to a new washington post americans are divided on whether they believe black and white folks are treated equally
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by the criminal justice system. only one in ten african-americans say blacks and whites are treated equally. more than half say the criminal justice system treats everyone the same map is your reaction and how do you explain the perception. >> that's no news flash to myself and communities like i serve throughout new york city. there has been a disproportionate reaction to the police on behalf of minority citizens who failed through programs like stop and frisk it has negatively impacted our community. . i'm not surprised. >> let me get your reaction to president obama's remarks. he thinks the country is less racially divided now than when he took office. he said it's probably in the day-to-day interactions less racially divided. i think that the issue has surfaced in a way probably is healthy. do you agree with the president's assessment? >> i agree that any time we have
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some dialogue around race relations it's good for local communities and good for the country in general. i agree with that statement. absolutely. >> let's get your reaction to comments made by bill bratton. he said they feel under attack raj and file officers and much of police leadership. they feel they are under attack from the federal government at the highest level. we have a lot of talking we have to do to understand all sides of the issue. in is not a one sided issue. obviously this is about police being vilified across the country. do you agree with the assessment? >> i agree that's a perception. i think that the reforms that myself and other people have called for have led to that kind of perception. but i believe and most people believe that supporting your police department while calling for reform they're not mutually exclusive ideas. i think we have to look at that. >> obviously in new york a big question about the relationship between city hall and the mayor.
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he's speaking today to graduating recruits. your reaction to how the mayor can mend that relationship between the police force and city hall. >> i think the mayor's role in the city is tantamount to being the commander in chief. and i believe he'll right the ship. >> okay. thank you very much. the story is the focus of today's gut check. as we mentioned in an interview airing this week. president obama said the u.s. is less racially divided now than when he took office. do you agree with the president's statements sstatements? go to "newsnation" to develop. the families of passengers on board the missing air asia flight are waiting for word on the fate of their loved ones as nightfall forces rescuers to suspend the search for now. we'll have more on the circumstances coming up. also ahead america's oldest living president george h.w. bush remains in the hospital for
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developing now we're waiting for the word on former president george h.w. bush and how much longer he'll be in the hospital. a spokesman said we could know pretty soon. the 90-year-old has been at houston methodist hospital for almost a week now. he was admitted tuesday night after experiencing shortness of breath. jacob rascon is in houston with the latest. let me ask you any idea when the former president could be released? >> we have a better idea now than we've ever had since he got here nearly seven days ago. every day we get an update from the family spokesperson. every day we're told he's doing better. the latest update said his condition improve to the point that doctors were talking about
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discharge days. he would be here at least through the weekend. so today could be a possible release date. so could tomorrow. all we know they're talking about release dates. we know he got here on tuesday after he had trouble breathing. we know he's 90 years old. the oldest living former president. he suffers from a form ever parkingson's disease already which makes it difficult to walk and speak. he's had health scares before. he was here two years ago at the same time. but at that time he was here for two months with bronchitis. this time we're told his condition is far less serious. >> jacob rascon thank you very much. the figures in. sony pictures said the controversial film the interview is breaking records. it earned a whopping $15 million in online sales. it's been seen more than 2 million times on the web alone. it makes it the company's number one online film of all time.
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the numbers could go up. apple add the interview to the selection list last night. seth rogan said he's quote, thrilled people went to see it on the big screen as well. it raked in another $2.89 million in select movie theaters across the country. developing now it's nearing midnight in southeast asia and rescuers are preparing for a new day of searching for the missing air asia plane with 160 people. i'll talk live with two experts how a plane can vanish. also ahead crews in texas are searching for survivors of a deadly fire at a high-rise for senior citizens. it's one of the stories we're following around the "newsnation." and reform rejected. new reaction to governor's christie and cuomo vetoing changes to the agency linked to the bridge lane closure scandal. today's first read. e
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the breaking news we were telling you about. landing gear forced a 747 to make a nonstandard landing at london gatwick airport. it circle for about an hour. the plane was bound for lajd from england but the pilots turns around understand once they discovered the problems. we continue to follow the developments in the search for missing flight 8501. it's scheduled to resume at daybreak. two full day of searches failed to turn. any sign of the plane that was carrying 162 passengers and crew members. family members are gathered at airports in indonesia where the plane took off sunday morning and singapore where it was heading. as they await, they were told
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the plane was probably at the bottom of the sea. john, let's start off with you. what is your imgregs of the response so far and what do you see or expect to see once the search resumes at daylight in the area? >> well, the response is a far cry from what we saw with malaysian airlines flight 370. they were much quicker in their response. it was less than two hours before they called the airplane missing. so i think that the initial start of the investigation of the search certainly was cleaner than the malaysian incident. >> rick, flight 8501 is said to have disappeared off radar. why would it radar in such a heavily trafficked area capture the descent of the plane. >> it could on some degree.
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whether it was a horizontal surveillance radar. if it had a sudden dissent, you know, it would appear as long as it was within the beam of the radar. once it fell below that then they couldn't track it any longer as it hit the water. >> we know the pilot asked for a change of course but didn't send a distressed signal or a may day call given that he was presumably trying to savage the flight. does it have much significance or provide any clues what what happened? >> it will provide some clues. the first would think it was something unexpected that happened to the airplane. the didn't have time to make a call. the button for the transmit is right on the yolk of the airplane are on the control stick, it's a airbus slide by wire. he could have easily made the call. so it could be a clue but it's really early, earl to speculate. one way or the other on the
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possible outcome. we need to black boxes and see what the data tells us. accident investigations are lead by data not by speculations. it's important we get the correct information. >> rick, i want to ask your opinion about the comparison. this is the second time in one year a plane has gone missing. eerie similarities are being drawn between this and the malaysian airlines flight 370 dearing in march. also vanishing from radar. there are stark differences. mh 370 disappeared during clear weather and flew undetected for hours. air traffic controller immediately noticed when 8501 went missing. 370 have been combing a vast area in the indian ocean in the deepest waters in the world. flight 8501 is likely somewhere in relatively shallow waters in the java sea. should we take these as they seem to be totally unique
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situations or do they speak to a larger problem that we should be made aware of? >> the similarities are not as great as the differences. and the differences actually work to the advantage of searchers in the case. have a much smaller search area they can look in the location of the last radar contact is in a good starting point to look. and the -- i don't see any relationship between the two accidents at this point. it would appear that weather may have been a factor in this one as opposed to the malaysian airlines incident. >> john, we look at the lessons of 370, the malaysian airlines flight but none of them seem to be have been applied in this particular case. you know, the tracking issue a factor. the fact that the plane has gone missing and people don't know where it is. what is the reason why from a technological point of view we simply can't track the planes? we have the technology. it's available to us today.
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but even if we were to put it on all the 20,000 or so airplanes commercial airplanes flying we would overwhelm the fracture. it's going to take a little bit of time to develop the right system and to put it on board our airports. i know, that the international community is working diligently with the airport airplanes to come up with a system to track airplanes worldwide. let's not forget right here in the united states as we sit here and talk right now, there is something in over 5,000 airplanes in the air over our head. trying to track the 5,000 airplanes using a satellite to transmit the data back and forth is a daunting task. multiply that by three times for a fleet of 20,000 airplanes worldwide. it is a challenge. it's going to take awhile to work the technology out.
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>> thank you for joining us on the topic. we'll be following it closely in the hours and days ahead. new york city mayor de blasio is addressing new police recruit underway right now. he's been thanking the new police officers for their duty and calling them peacemakers saying quote, lost two peacemakers. let's listen in. >> we have a responsibility to you to keep you safe. we ask you to selflessly protect others, but it's our job to protect you. that begins giving you the finest training, the most rigorous training you have receive at the academy. you have gotten the best training available in this world to prepare you. and then we assembled the finest leadership of this department to lead you. commissioner bill bratton has literally done to reduce crime than anyone on the planet today.
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[ applause ] he's done it time and time again throughout his career. he's a legend and you will have the honor of serving under him. there's much to learn from him. you have a chance to move forward in your careers in this department by learning from some of the very best. you're great leaders all around. i want to thank the chief department jim anymy o'neal. i want to remind you some years ago they followed this exact map and followed it to the highest plight of this department and they support you. they know it is their obligation to keep you safe. and the key that can help you be the best to be. we will continue your training throughout your career.
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it's not a one-time only thing. you'll be continuously supported through a tractactical training firearm training vehicle safety training, everything that will ep had you to be safe. >> that's mayor bill de blasio speaking there addressing a class or core of npyd graduates. he paid tribute to the two lost officers killed in brooklyn saying they were peacemakers. he also paid tribute to the graduates saying the city needs to invest in their training to make sure they are safe and they have everything they need. so they would be continuously sported not just in their training but throughout their career. there is mayor de blasio addressing the kroutd. it comes at the heightened time of tensions between city hall and the nypd.
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over the weekend as the mayor addressed the funeral of one of the killed soldiers several police officers turned their back on the mayor on the big screen. that drew some criticism from the police commissioner bill bratton. back here in the u.s. governor chris christie and andrew cuomo are joining forces to say no to reform. they vetoed a bipartisan bill to overhaul the port authority. you'll recall the port authority was caught in that scandal over lane closures at the george washington bridge last year. joining me now live carrie dan. i want to start off asking. what does vetoing this plan mean for governor christie's image? >> it offers further foeder for those on the right and left who would like to paint christie as somebody who doesn't listen to those around him. who is a bully. this was very unusual case in
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that both legislatures bipartisan unanimously approved the reforms. they were vetoed not just by christie but cuomo, a democrat in new york. and it also i think it will put the bridge gate scandal that dubbed christie's administration in the headline in the short run. it's probably not a great thing for him. in the long run, especially in the national political ambitions he faces other issues that will probably take precedence over the particular port authority. >> let's ask about the national ambitions ambitions. if he decides to run for president when would be the best time for him to announce the decision? >> well, he's coming under, i think, pressure based on former florida governor jeb bush deciding to throw his hat in the ring before the new year. it was earlier than i think many observers thought jeb bush say i'm actively pursuing the idea of a presidential run. christie and bush pull from a similar group of donors.
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moderate republicans and those who really look at christie's ability to win in a blue state. jeb bush's policy positions offer a little bit of overlapse. i think bush's run will push christie into making a decision sooner rather than later. >> thank you very much for that update. the start of a new era in afghanistan. this week a u.s. nato forces officially ended the combat mission in the longest running war. we'll have a live report. >> right here! your momma -- >> the dramatic escape when a toddler jumps from a burning building on christmas morning. it's one of the things we thought you should know.
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replaced it with another called resolute support. about 13,000 nato troops, most americans will remain in afghanistan in an supporting role. chris januarysing is joining us live from hawaii. obviously it marked the formal end to a war that has caused more than 2,000 american lives. thousands of afghan lives since 2001. what happens now? >> well, that's the big question. while the ceremony in kabul officially marked the end of combat operations as you know the u.s. involvement isn't over. 13,000 foreign troops will stay behind. about 10,600 are americans. staying in afghanistan and while no nato troops will focus -- those will focus exclusively on training and advising u.s. forces will have limited combat role as part of what is a
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separate counter terrorism mission. i should say this marks a mark major transition in what has become the most violent time for afghans a they try to take responsibility. 2014 is shaping up to be the deadly start. civilian casualties are expected to hit 10,000. afghanistan remains a dangerous place but the war was coming to a responsible conclusion. to your question what is next. there's no political appetite here in the united states beyond what is happening there now. >> president obama paid tribute to the extraordinary sacrifices our men and women in uniform. our combat mission in afghanistan is ending. we're safer because of it and our nation is more secure because of their service. there's going to be at lot of questions about the political and military capabilities of the afghan government. i want to get your reaction to that. what are we hearing in terms of their reaction among the
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military and political leadership of that country and their new responsibilities. >> yeah, i mean, you've spent a lot of time in the region. you know. if you look overall it's a lot of what we've seen from the beginning. mixed feelings about the draw down. there's no doubt the security situation is deteriorated. there are people who think administrator -- more troops should stay behind. a new precedent has been in place for three months. there's no cabinet. the government remains fraj guile. nato secretary general said afghanistan security forces are ready to take on the insurgety. it's worth pointing out the question of the country in general. economic growth at zero. the u.s. spend more than $100 million on reconstruction in afghanistan. without a stable government it's hard to see how it's going to be able to move forward, ayman. >> chris jansing traveling with the president in hawaii. thank you very much. a city wide tactical alert. police are scouring a south l.a.
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neighborhood. they say two people shot at a patrol car with a rifle last night. no officers were hurt. one person in custody in connection with the shooting. and they did recover a weapon at the scene. but the hunt for a second person continues. to another ongoing investigation. this one in texas five people are dead ten are hospitalized and others could be unaccounted for after a fire tore through a senior living center. no word on the cause of the fire. the fire chief said it was amazing there wasn't more loss of life. a new jersey police officer responding to a call at the high rate of speed last night struck and killed a 10-year-old on his way to a sleep over. while they investigate the county police have offered their deepest condolences to the family. and chilling new cell phone video from a christmas morning apartment fire in alabama. neighbors loudly yelled for a child to jump from the second floor. >> come out. your momma right here.
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come on! >> two adults and four children were hurt. officials say unattended food on a stove started that fire. up next is the secret service stretched too thin? following a string of security lapses this year a new report says the agency is struggling and has been for years. but why? i'll talk live with the reporter behind the investigation.
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a new reporter in the "washington post" is revealing gaps in the secret service, september's white house intruder is one of several incidents that exposed an agency stretched thin and prompted questions about the possible impact on the first family's safety. "the washington post" has been breaking new ground on the story and wrote the latest piece. she joins me now and we should note they reached out to get
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comment on this and had no comment on the story. carol, you wrote about the new challenges after 9/11 having to prepare for new types of attacks like truck bombs and biological and chemical weapons and wrote but resources remained flat and extended stretches on the road. for years, hard work helped keep the turmoil from showing. what resources did the secret service lack and why didn't they get them? >> so the problem from the secret service is like every other government agency like the terrorist attacks of 9/11 the number of threats and the complexity of threats dramatically expanded and for the secret service there were a host of duties and people who needed details all the time including the vice president's grandchildren. a group that had not gotten protection 24-7 before. it was all a drain on manpower
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but if you look at the secret service's budget and their manpower over the last 12 years as we did at "the washington post," you see an agency that instead of modernizing and instead of preparing for the new and quite frightening threats and increasing the manpower the staffing to address all the extra people it needed it didn't. it never did. >> speaking of manpower there was a weakening of institutional memory within the organization and the experience in the decade before the 9/11 attacks. 925 senior agents retire and how did this affect them immediately after 9/11? >> what's interesting is this was basically a hold over of an old and generous 1950s retirement package for secret service agents and officers. treating them like they were cops on the beat in the line of
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fire and allowing them the opportunity to retire after 20 years. nobody predicted this huge wave of agents, a third of the senior supervisors would all depart in the years walking up to 9/11. nine or ten years before the terrorist attacks, the most senior people were walking out the door. >> after 9/11 it increased protection for members of the bush and cheney families. they have secret service protection and even valerie jarrett has protection. how is that impacting the agents? >> security details are probably one of the most high profile and draining things that the service does. you need a lot of people to give someone 24-7 or even partial protection. for example, the president's
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protected detail is one, very unique and very serious group of folks. it's not that kind of protection provided to the grandchild and friends. you need a group of people in shifts to protect each of these people. >> that would drain some of those resources. >> it does. >> we will be following your reporting as more comes out. that does it for this edition of "news nation." i'm in for tamron hall. you can watch us here on msnbc. up next, "andrea mitchell reports."
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