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happy new year's eve. this is "the reid report." i'm joy reid. while we're watching celebrationings begin around the world, we're paying particular attention to those in indonesia where it just turned 2015. where rescuers will soon continue their search of wreckage of flight 8501. more body and debris were found in the fourth day of search efforts as big waves impeded the efforts. for more on the search and victims' families we turn to katy tur, who's in indonesia. >> reporter: joy, it is nighttime here in surabaya indonesia. it was another tough day for families out here as they pulled even more bodies and wreckage from the water. seven bodies in total have been brought to a local hospital where they'll begin the process
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of identification. they've taken 98 dna samples from family members so they can do this as fast as they can and return these victims to the families so they can begin the process of burials and religious ceremonies and funerals. as for the search itself, well, there was news earlier today that sonar images confirm they spotted the bulk of the wreckage underneath the water. the ceo of airasia has come out and said that is not true. they don't have those sonar images. they have not officially found the plane and they are still looking. as for that charity flight we tarp talking about all day yesterday, it's been canceled. they say they believe it will be too hard for family to be over the sight where the plane last had contact with the radar. back to you. >> nbc's katy tur in indonesia, thank you. a reid alert on reports of clash between st. louis police and protesters inside police headquarters. nbc's zach roth is following developments. >> i've been speaking with some protesters there. they say there was a group of
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about 150 who marched from the arch in st. louis to the metro police department with a list of demands, things like ending racial profiling, civilian review board, stuff they've been asking for for a while. once they got there, about 25 people did enter the police department occupied it, sat down. at that point police came out. according to one protester i spoke with they drew their taser and 25 people were forcibly removed. one protester said he was dragged out by the ankles. seeing reports of tear gas being used. protesters are still outside, chanting. still about 100 people. we've reached out to the police department to get their comment and their side of the story. have not yet heard back. >> we're looking at that tweet from a reporter saying there was pepper spray apparently used. we're expecting there will be protests.
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we're hearing around the country tonight, right? >> that's right. there is a real drive to push this movement forward as the year ends into the new year. you're seeing stuff on twitter that 2015 will be the year of action the year of resistance. there is good reason to believe that it is going to continue to have momentum. you now have these kind of mechanisms set up with the white house task force, the justice department working with police departments, with the ferguson commission. all these things potentially can deliver some of the steps protesters have been asking for. >> msnbc's zachk roth thank you. for much of the u.s. the new year is beginning in the bitter cold. wshd warnings and advisories are in effect for parts of 15 states. in fact, right now, 80% of the land area across the country is below freezing. in southern california san bernardino mountains last night, heavy snow stranded more than 100 people and dozens of vehicles for much of the night. fortunately, there were no
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serious collisions. we are just under ten hours away from the new year but around the globe, 2015 is already under way. from sydney to tokyo and hong kong and bangkok, fireworks and balloons lit up the sky at the stroke of midnight. of course, no celebration is quite like the one that's about to take place just around the corner from here in new york's times square. nbc's stephanie gosk is out there in the bitter cold for us. happy new year. >> reporter: joy, happy new year's eve to you. you know we're standing here watching the transformation of times square happen in front of our very eyes. it's really mazing. what is normally this busy crossroads of manhattan turns into this massive party. hundreds of thousands of people from around the world will file in over the course of the next few hours, getting ready for the ball to drop. that ball 11,875 pounds. the good news is they went through a couple of practice runs yesterday and it's all in working order. on the ground here today, to
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make sure that everything goes off smoothly and securely, are thousands of extra police. they include counterterrorism units, bomb squads, there will be roof patrols. people that come in will be put in these barricaded pens and many will have to go through metal detectors. one new challenge for the police on the ground here tonight are going to be protesters. these are protests planned, calling for police reform. and police say these are welcome but they have to abandon by the law. the other challenge, not just for the police but for everyone who comes down here will be this bitter bitter cold. joy, back to you. >> nbc's stephanie gosk in times square thank you. palestinian authority president mahmoud abbas today signed papers to join the international criminal court. one day after politics barely lost a u.n. security council vote demanding israeli withdrawal from the west bank and east jerusalem with eight countries including france and
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luxembourg voting for and five abstaining. some say the wind may be at the palestinian's back. join the icc today, a part of 22 agreements abbas signed could open the door for at least allegations or charges of war crimes against israeli officials. in a statement the u.s. state department opposed the move calling it counterproductive. for more on what this all means, we're joined by nbc foreign correspondent ayman. first of all, on the voets votes needed only eight people voted, that means the u.s. did not have the opportunity to veto. but would the u.s. likely have vetoed this resolution had they gotten the nine votes? >> all indications suggest, yes. the u.s. has been very much opposed to any u.n. security council measure that tries to advance palestinian statehood. >> i'm interested in that count. france voting with the palestinians. some interesting countries are the abstention list.
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nigeria being with them. those who voted against, u.s. and australia, or those who abstained? >> what you're seeing from the perspective of the international reaction to this issue is there is a camp that is now growing in support of palestinian statehood through international means. through international efforts as opposed to what has been called a so-called peace process, shepherded by the united states. that process in the eyes of many, many people is now completely defunct. it has not produced security for israel, not liberated the palestinians, not ended the occupation. at the end of the day after 20 25 years of this process, many people are saying, it's no longer working. something new has to begin. and so some have been pushing the palestinians to try to go through international arenas. like the united nations. as you see, they're trying to put more pressure by doing things like the international criminal court. there's growing calls for all kinds of boycott movements and sanctions movements against israel. so, because that is shifting to the international arena, you're
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seeing more countries come out, recognizing a palestinian state. some countries like in sweden and elsewhere. i think what you're seeing is more of an isolation. you hear israeli officials express concern about the de deledge mization. >> how much do you think the recent war in gaza has to do with that? when the producers and i sat down and came up with what we felt were the most important stories of the year my argument was it was gaza. for the first time in my lifetime it was a real humanizing of the conflict from the point of view of palestinians that i had not seen at least in american media. i think you were a large part of that, your coverage in gaza was riveting. do you think that the war in gaza and that just massive death toll including around 700 palestinian children moved the debate in the direction of the palestinians at all? >> it's hard to see that in terms of a policy shift.
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the united states hasn't shifted or changed its policies. no doubt that not only the coverage but i think the fact that the internet now has changed the way people consume their news is a huge factor. the sad reality is this has been happening for decades on both sides. the fact is that as you were saying, the first time in your lifetime you're seeing it here in america says a lot. and i think that if the united states, particularly people in the u.s. had a better understanding of the conflict, they could perhaps expect more from the policies. that has not been reflected on the ground. the end game is to achieve peaceful position that produces palestinian state, security state for the state of israel. we're still far away from that. >> it does seem the u.s. as a negotiator does not seem to be getting anywhere after decades and decades of trying. is europe going to be a more important factor in terms of trying to create a deal that both the palestinians and israelis can live with?
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>> a lot of things are at play here. one, in this country we've had a massive paradigm shift when it came to cuba on foreign policy. the u.s. and a lot of people make this argument. a lot of people say the u.s. needs a paradigm shift in how it's dealing with the israeli/palestine conflict. it hasn't happened in the u.s. for some time so more people are arguing it has to come from other centers of power. the bottom line is the u.s. still has the most amount of lef raj. palestinian authorities are dependent on united states for aid and security. as a result of that both parties are somewhat subject to what the u.s. wants and what the u.s. can leverage in terms of bringing peace to both of these sides. we're still very far away from it. >> it seems like the most single in intractable conflict in the world. >> it's one of the most central conflicts in the region. if you could draw the region in co-centric circles this would be in the epicenter that causes problems and ripple effects
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across the region. >> and across the world. ayman, who has done some of the most important reporting of the year. thank you for making the time. >> thank you very much. >> very busy man around here. happy new year. >> happy ni new year to you. we are breaking down the top stories of the year. we have a power-packed panel here to sort through it all. we'll sort through the best and worst news-worthy moments of 2014. let's take a look at "the reid report's" top international stories of the year as well as a couple moments of our coverage of the conflict in gaza. >> in ooun schools in gaza they were storing munitions, firing rockets. in doing so hamas is not only putting a school in danger a military target but also violateing u.n. neutrality and violating a school where young people are supposed to learn. i think that shows us who hamas is. >> the israeli army was repeatedly warned by us.
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we gave them the gps coordinates of all of our facilities. not just those that were hit. repeated calls on the phone. there are people there, the battle is coming closer. we warned repeatedly. we begged them, we pleaded with them not to hit our people. in the end look what happened.
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welcome back. with the year ending we want to take a look at some big political stories we've covered on the show. from the midterms to the hobby lobby decision by the supreme court to same-sex marriage as well as immigration reform and what turned out to be a quite successful run for obamacare after a rocky start. let's bring in on you power panel. i'm going to start at the table first. let's talk about these midterms
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and i'll start with you, seema. what's interesting about what happened in the midterms is it felt like the republicans just dominated everything and that it should in a lot of politico's minds produce an obama who is just ready to give in but it produce aid very different obama. >> i've said this consistently. i feel like obama has this legacy bucket list is part is accomplishing what he originally set out to do and said he would do and now he has even more fire in his belly to ensure that a democrat takes the white house in 2016. so i think he's just like you know what up yours. it's about him. >> let's play his final press conference of the year which some would argue was very in your face. let's play a little clip. >> if executive actions on areas like minimum wage or equal pay
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or having a more sensible immigration system are important to republicans, if they care about those issues and the executive actions are bothering them, there is a very simple solution. and that is pass bills. and work with me to make sure i'm tolg pass those bills. >> jimmy williams he's saying, bring it basically. >> he's the single parent who called out all of his kids and said, you stink, you haven't done your chores you haven't taken out trash, you haven't made your bed or cleaned up your room for an entire year. he's right. they haven't. i had some bad news for the president. the next congress, they're going to do exactly the same thing. i'm not that hopeful unfortunately. >> things are going to change. i think one thing people have in the base of the democratic party, being critical of the president, is not being forthright and sort of commanding when it comes to his dealings with the republicans.
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do you anticipate an obama that remains in that form? >> yes. i think he'll be stronger, more forceful because at this point he has nothing to lose. he has solidified his legacy. if he accomplished nothing else at this point, there is obamacare. there's the steps he's taken on immigration reform. i think we'll see him puff his chest out for the last few months. >> one other issue i think a lot of people are seeing on the horizon with this new republican dominated washington and this doesn't necessarily have to do with congress liz, the hobby lobby decision this year felt i think, to a lot of people like a setback for women's rights. you as the person who has brought lady parts justice to the world, what do you think about this coming in the next two years? are we looking at more what you call the quote/unquote, war on women? >> i'm in minnesota now. as soon as the hobby lobby decision came down there's a car dealer shil that executed their right to say, you know, i
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guest guess we're a religious car dealership who would like not to provide birth control to our employees. i'm sorry, aside from bedrooms cars are the next place people get pregnant in. >> i love this! >> so i think that the war on women will continue because women continue to ask for a seat at the table. when we do that that threatens those who have unjustifiably been holding those seats for years. there's going to be no shortage of wars on women. >> there's been a very -- it's been a very up and down year. people would argue on voting rights and but on lbgt rights it's been a pretty good run in terms of decisions for gay rights. we have this patchy system around the country. florida is in a model, ready to start there in january. what do you foresee coming up? >> i think the court has to take this up the high court, the supreme court, they have to take
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it up. you have now a conflict between one of the courts of appeals and the others. so they'll have to sort of merit that case out, if you will. my gut tells me justice kennedy will lead another 5-4 decision in favor of saying yes, indeed this is protected under the 14th amendment equal protection clause. what's more important in my opinion is the fact in the 30 states where you can now get married if you are gay or lesbian, you can still be fired in many of those states for getting married and being gay. that's a bigger problem. that's congress's job. don't look for this -- hate to say this oh my god, but don't look for the 114th congress to paz it. they won't do it. this-f they do -- i won't say what i would do because i wouldn't know. that would be a monumental piece of legislation but they won't do that. if they do they'll alienate their base and they can't do that going into the presidential in 2016. >> i'll come back to the panel, and come to you, seema, on this because there is a legal matter as far as congress thinks there
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is because other people don't think will happen in congress is immigration reform. members of the republican party, who would now be the majority, are threatening all sorts of punishment for the president's action on immigration. another huge thing that happened. what do you foresee there? doesn't feel like they're standing for congress to do much about what the president has done. >> this is what i don't understand. he has the right to do it. the president has this executive action power. so if he chooses to do it all he can do is shake his first. >> doesn't seem like much leverage leverage. >> on the affordable care act, you have the -- the supreme court will have another crack at it. but the affordable care act has been quite successful where it's been allowed to take hold. one place where it has not is southern states where primarily african-americans are the 45% of the people who don't have it. what are you seeing on the fronts of affordable care act,
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more expaction? >> i think there will be more expansion. those who have access of it are pleased with. those critical of the affordable care act are critical of obama. they were willing to vote or act against their interest or the interest of their constituents. i think it's going to continue to grow. >> i just have to add, though it is as a small business person and one who does support obama, the problem is the expense. and that's just the reality of obamacare, is that it's costing all of us so much more. >> it's actually brought costs down. jim y i feel like you were trying to jump in. overall costs are down. >> overall costs are down. let me ask a question. has anyone known an insurance company to actually lower costs? if you have raise your hand because i would like to talk to you in private. >> i would say my health insurance has gone up. >> but my point is everybody's always has. it's never gone down. >> it's kind of a thing -- >> a lot, jimmy. it's gone up a lot. >> well that -- and, yes, i understand that. i do.
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nonfee paying rancher clive in bundy or the growing push to legalize marijuana. dave zirin, jameel la and seema. i think if you look at all the stories that took place in the country, the biggest stories i mean you know just the producers, we had to say ferguson, eric garner. the whole black lives matter movement was the biggest thing that happened this year. do you agree? >> absolutely. it's been an incredible year to see a movement to see an actual civil rights movement. there have been activists in this country but this level of mobilization is not something we've witnessed in any of our lifetimes. >> seema one thing it's produced is an awareness amongst people of just how much legal latitude police have to use deadly force against civilians. >> and what it should now do is create some kind of blanket law across this country that when a police officer is -- charges
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their weapon and, therefore, an investigation must occur, we must appoint a special prosecutor. that is the only thing we should have learned from this. and racism is still well and alive. >> and body cameras might not be the answer. we had the eric garner case with everything on video. >> they have the transparency. they have to change this rule about special prosecutors. every time a police officer is involved, get a special prosecutor. >> jimmy, this wound up with president obama, with the attorney general being drawn into the rhetoric of people who oppose these ideas but is there a role for federal government? doesn't seem like this congress will do a whole but do you see any role for legislation? >> a year and a half the supreme court led by chief justice roberts struck down voting rights act, which next year will be 50 years old. in that decision what did he tell congress to do?
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he said rewrite the voting rights act. the chief justice of the supreme court has given the congress something remarkable that they can actually do and the republicans, now controlling both houses could do something to reach out to the african-american community here in america. i don't think they're -- again, i don't think they're going to do that. but that would be a great place for them to start. yes, there is a federal role. also, and this is very important, we have got to figure out a way to teach our policemen on the streets that this is not afghanistan. this is america. they have to stop thinking about members of the military and doing community policing. that is paramount, imperative. they work for us and we work with them. that's not in many xhunlts and that saddens me. >> one thing we did see in terms of what jimmy was talking about and the police their understanding and attitudes of their role in society is you did have a police union demand an
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apology from an nfl team because some of the players on the st. louis rams decided to support the black lives matter movement. you've had a lot of athletes whether it's lebron james in the nba and some nfl players join the movement. what do you think that means in terms of a culturealeal moment to have them join this movement and then have public figures demand apologies from them? >> it's the power of a movement when we see it breach the walls of the industrial complex, aka, sports. this is not a coincidence the first time you've seen star athletes, not just athletes but star athlete, take a stand on civil rights since the late 1960s. it says something about the power and reach of this movement. it's been a powerful thing because one thing it does we have to recognize there have people in this country who aren't following twitter to find out the latest in black lives matter. who aren't following the live streams from ferguson. there are folks who watch sports, listen to sports radio and they really have the ultimate privilege in this
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society. that's the privilege of ignorance. the privilege of not having the care about the reality of police violence. when athletes start to reflect this movement they then have to con confront, wait a minute, what kind of country am i living in that every 48 hours a person with black skin dies when they come in contact with police. >> dave, do you think that -- does it say anything the athletes participating in these protests are largely african-american, one asian-american, and there hasn't been cross-poll nation in terms of this particular movement? >> there has been a lot of black, brown and white athlete who is have worn shirts and taken part in protests on the court at high school and collegiate level. the youth shall lead us we can say. that's been exciting and encouraging, including a school district in mencalifornia, and
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after there was an uproar, they were re-invited again. that's the solidarity we need. this really is about stepping back and asking the question what kind of country do we want to live in? what kind of country do we to want raise our kids in? i'm proud of athletes who are white who say, i don't like racist violence against people who look like my teammates but it needs to go much deeper. >> i want to shift gears because the other list we put together are some of the top sports stories. this has been a big year in terms of controversy in the major athletic leagues and none probably bigger than this domestic abuse situation you've seen within the nfl. >> and they brought in the big guns. roger goodell hired lisa freele. i have worked against lisa when she was the sex crimes chief, so
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i know her very well. she is the perfect person person to do it. her role has been reflected in the actual new policy. the policy now has this language there's a minimum of six-game suspension for certain activities, assault, battery. however, if there's aggravating circumstances like use of a weapon or a child, then maybe you'll face a higher penalty, which to me sounds like the penal law. doesn't sound like the nfl. it shows she's taking it seriously. my problem with it, if you rape a woman but you don't use a knife, you only get six months. if you use a knife -- >> and the other thing that was controversial was the makeup of this initial group of women who were put together by roger goodell to reform the league or somehow give it a conscience. >> most of the men in the league are relationships with african-american women. so we were erased from this
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conversation when the most public face of abuse at the hands of an nfl player, short of nicole simpson, is now janay rice. >> to open it up to the panel, the donald sterling situation was a moment when you actually saw the players league when you saw players threaten not to play if something wasn't done about him. >> let's throw all of these issues together. donald sterling violence against women, star athletes saying black lives matter. that they have in common is they have turned upside down what have been some of the most historical rules in the sports rule which are owners untouchable, violence against women is pushed under the carpet and star athletes don't speak out about politics because it will hurt their brand. all of that has been turned on their head and has been driven, i would argue, by the power of social media to drive mainstream media which scares the public relations heads inside the commissioner's office. for me that's very welcome. i think the powers that be in sports have no idea how to
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navigate this bold new world. >> we could go along because there are huge breakthroughs for lbgt athletes. have i to go to my washington denizen on the football team in washington, d.c. which dug in its heels big times in terms of not changing the name. what do you see happening there? >> i don't see how snyder does it. i think it's offensive and horrible but i mean if anybody knows dan snyder, he's not going to change the name of that team. he'll probably sell the team before he changes the name. but he's just -- listen zirin is right, these owners do whatever they want when they want it as they want it. why? because they're monopolies that's why. that's what most americans don't understand. they're untouchable. you can't touch them under federal law because they own it all. >> monopolies get a tax
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exemption. >> that's right. when you don't have competition and you don't pay taxes, et cetera, et cetera. by the way, what is the public doing? they're throwing money at you hand over fists to go to your games, nfl, nba, so dan snyder that's an egotistical little man who doesn't care if it's offensive or not. he's going to dig in. no one thinks he's going to do it. >> jimmy, in 2015 i need you to tell me how you feel. >> i usually do that. >> stay with us. coming up next, top entertain entertainment stories of the year from the hack attack on sony pictures to the tragic loss of hollywood's biggest stars and what's next for bill cosby. first, another unforgettable sports moment from 2014. we can't forget team usa goalkeeper tim howard's unofficial ascension to secretary of defense during the world cup. but it was brazil's heart-wrenching loss to germany in the semifinals that's still haunting the dreams or the nightmares of world cup watchers worldwide.
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>> he's done it! >> israel being taken to the cleaners so far. >> and that's three! >> look at this now. this could get worse. plays it in. he scored! unbelievable. brazil has just been played. >> brazil's world cup is surely over. >> this is utterly beyond belief.
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let's talk about bill cosby. i think for most this was the most jarring allegations. >> i think it's so interesting, when he was coming to prominence, social media was not there to rebutt that image. now we have a whole new world where a comedian like hannibal burress can call youous and then he can have consensus about rape culture, believing victims. >> liz within the comedy community, was this an underlying -- something people kind of knew an open secret and how have people in the world, in the comedy world, how have they reacted to it? >> it has been one of the worst kept secrets around but it was one of those things where we all looked ought ourselves and said, it is the most unbelievable place to put any of these women. you are a writer. you are a person in the industry.
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you're invited by bill cosby. for to you come forward and say, america's favorite dad raped me would be next to impossible. i think it's a very good lesson for everyone to see what happens and how hard it is for somebody who's a rape survivor to come forward because of the ramifications of who bill cosby is. also, when one man is an industry, and i wrote about this that really says to the person, how many lives will i bring down if i come forward? it was a messy thing. >> the tale of two supermodels. the difference in the initial reaction when janice dickinson came out and then the second supermodel second what she was saying. i want to shift quickly because this has been a big year in black hollywood to "selma," and starting out with "12 years a
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slave" and then on television "how to get away with murder," how big was it? >> i think it was monumental. release of top five by chris rock allowed him to have a conversation in "hollywood reporter" that criticized hollywood on systematic racism. dear white people a millennial generation voice, a fresh voice. this generation that has been told there's a post-racial society and they rebutted it right? we have new filmmakers coming through that. i also think about the stars that are also leading tv. i think about sleepy hollow. i think about the young black woman, the lights on the big screen which was a powerful portrait and follow-up for "love and basketball" and ava is going to run hollywood. >> but the wig scene in "how to get away with murder," that's it for me. let's talk about the big moves in late night because that was
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the big trauma this year you saw colbert nation will be no more. a lot of big moves in late night. how big, how important and how different is late night tv going to look in 2015? >>
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