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i would be remiss if i didn't -- all right here we go. oh happy new year. 2015 in the house. >> 2015 is just hours old but all eyes are looking ahead to 2016. 2015 means it's 2016 decision time. >> 2015 is really the start of 2016.
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[ laughter ] [ bleep ] [ bleep ]. good morning. it is tuesday, january 6th. welcome to "morning joe." with us on september along with me willie and thomas the chairman of deutsche incorporated donny deutsch. that's loud that outfit. you look great willie. you always look so dapper sweet and charming. >> who has purple. >> in washington we have the white house correspondent for the associated press, julie pace. and on capitol hill msnbc political correspondent kasie hunt. we'll be getting to the first day of the new congress with kacie in just a moment. >> you can see visuals on your ♪ >> i can't. we're having a little bit of a technical problem. >> you're lucky. >> i can imagine it. i can see it in my head.
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>> it's better this way, actually. and thomas okay -- first of all, what is it -- >> little christmas. >> i didn't know. >> this is where if you're angry at christmas you get to have it be over with because the 12 days of christmas -- if you're a catholic with guilt issues you can -- >> today is the day. january 6th. >> little christmas. >> little christmas. feast of the epiphany >> you're part spaz part game show host part news guy. >> i won't put the spaz on my resume. >> you were in saint bart's. >> i was not at leo's party. >> you were invited. >> too late. >> started at 1:30. >> i can't do that.
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there's a big request for people from saint bart's for a remote. why does "morning joe" not shoot in saint bart's. tourism, the whole hand across the globe thing in this global economy great place to kind of center on the, you know use of fossil fuel -- >> okay. can we stop? seriously. by the way, joe is sick as a dog and you look as fresh as a daisy coming back from your vacation. your a cliche. you look very good. not in a good way. too rested. there. are we all set. >> make up your mine. do i look sucky or do i look good >> i'm conflicted. good to have you here. we have a lot to get to starting right here in new york city. a manhunt is under way after two plains clothes police officers were shot. the officers were shot while
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responding to a robbery at a deli in the bronx. surveillance video shows one of the two suspects opening fire on the officers. they got away when a car they carjacked crashed but the man went to the hospital with a gunshot wound is being questioned. they are not sure if he's one of the suspects. one officer was shot in the back and arm and the other was wounded in the arm and chest. they are in critical but stable condition. both are expected to recover. police say it does not appear the officers were tar get. mayor de blasio visited them overnight at saint barnabas hospital. it came hours after the mayor criticized officers who once again turned their backs at him at a slain officer's funeral. commissioner bratton said officers could find other ways to protest. >> what was the need in the middle of that ceremony to engaging a political action? i don't get it.
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looking at the papers this morning, that the cover stories in so many of the papers focused on their actions, focused on them. the selfishness of that action. the selfishness of it. a funeral is no place for that. come demonstrate outside of city hall or police headquarters. but don't put on your uniform and go to a funeral, and engage in a political action. >> those individuals who took certain actions this last week last two weeks really they were disrespectful to the families involved. that's the bottom line. they were disrespectful to the families who had lost their loved one. and i can't understand why anyone would do something like that in a context like that. it would defy what we feel is the right and decent thing to do when you're dealing with a family in pain. >> first things first we hope those two cops are okay.
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reports we're getting they will survive. thank god for that. back to this back and forth about what some of the officers did at the funeral the other day. this is the front page of the "daily news," commissioners bratton referenced the papers in this town end this war now. commissioner mayor de blasio and head of the police union. donny this has gotten uglier by the day. how do we get out of this. >> i'm a big bill bratton fan. he's a cop's cop to come out and say this was wrong is a bold move. the thing that's scaring me there's a stat that came out that in the last month arrests in new york have been cut in half summons are down by 90%. police department came out and said police are patrolling. i hope it's not a result and my gut is telling me cops are being told hey pull back.
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which is a scary result of this. cops are afraid to do their jobs right now. everybody loses in that situation. cops were wrong in that funeral. but the big story out of this i hope we're not handcuffing, no pun intended our police officers. >> mayor de blasio announced overall crime fell by 5% last year. the city had its fewest murders since 1993. more attention success paid to what donny just mentioned a statistic showing a dramatic decline in the number of arrests and summons for the second straight week. the total number of criminal summons issued plunged more than 90% and overall number of arrests decline 56%. commissioner bratton stopped short of calling it a work slow down but promised the nypd would look into the declined and warned officers there would be consequences if it was intentional. >> his take is that it's not coming from the top down that's
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interesting, his point the cops are pulling back and saying hey you don't want us you don't have us. even more scarier. >> according to "new york times" police leaders deny the decline the slow down. they blame factors police monitoring protests and doubling up on police cars. the worry here is there's a real divide developing the mayor's office, the police chief and actual rank-and-file. >> if anybody can handle it it is commissioner bratton who is well-liked and well respected among those elected leaders and among those serving stengthens. if anybody can watch those trend lines it's commissioner bratton. to donny's point whether that's happening from those that are on the front lines on the streets and there's a work slow down or whether there's something else -- >> i'll take it a step further. it will be tough for bratton. i think he's fantastic. he has more experience than
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anybody to take on this job. but this divide now is so great and i think the swing from stop-and-frisk at its height to now is so dramatic and i think that somebody has to step in. i really do. >> would you say that was one of de blasio's smartest moves becoming mayor and appointing commissioner bratton. >> yes. >> only smart move. >> this is no reflection on bill bratton. but i think we've got -- we're at a real breaking point. how else can you look at this. they are pulling back. you can say this isn't a work slow down. how else does anybody describe this. >> one important thing. the pull back is a great concern. they have to figure this out. police officers if you look at these numbers it's for parking, moving violations drinking in public. they are not looking into murders or anything. >> arrests are down. summons. >> that's the majority of what
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we're talking about of what's down. so they are not totally laying down on the job. they are ignoring perhaps some of the minor offenses to make a statement. >> we all well know that a young black man is treated differently than a young white man by police officers and most instances in this country. but there's also another reality. that for the last 20 years this city has had such a dramatic upswing in every way. it is a cleaner, safer city. and we got to be careful we don't throw the baby out with the wash. we'll pick thunder again in just a moment. now to washington where the sun is rising on a new congress this morning the most diverse one in history will be sworn in. both chambers are run by republicans for the first time since the bush administration. the house leadership is expected to stay intact with speaker john boehner projected to survive a vote later this morning despite grumbling from his right flank. majority whip steve scalise will
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remain in his position as well but a recent flap over a meeting with a white supremacist in 2002 have democrats trying to make political hay. >> there's no arguing that who republicans decide to elevate into a leadership position says a lot about what the conference's priorities and values are. and, i mean ultimately, mr. scalise reportedly described himself as david duke without the baggage so it's up to the republicans to decide what it says about their conference. >> julie did the election change anything? republicans still have problems. >> the election changed something in that republicans control all of congress but the election didn't solve the internal issues that the party has. you know, in some ways you can actually see the more conservative wing of the party wanting to look for opportunities where they can pick fights with the leadership which wants to be move a little
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bit more to the middle be a bit more mainstream. you're seeing that in this election for speaker. it seems like boehner will get through rather easily but he'll have some members that will vote against him. done in a very public way not behind closed doors and a blemish for him. an embarrassment. the question is whether this vote and perhaps a couple of issues that come up over the next couple of weeks will basically be enough for conservatives or whether this is something we'll see them doing continuously throughout this year and whether this problem persists for republican. >> this 114th congress will be sworn in today. you're up on capitol hill right now. republicans will have majorities in house and senate. what's item number one on the republican agenda? >> willie on the senate side item number one is keystone pipeline. on the house side they are talking about messing with the 30 hour work week provision of the hearth law. they want to redefine i want at 40 hours. they are already running into
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some policy issues republicans are with the price of oil dropping there's some questions about whether they are even going to continue with the oil exploration, tar sands in canada that relates to the pipeline and you're seeing conservative backlash on the health care front. to touch on what julie was saying, they have to deal with one political issue after another already straight out of the gate. i would also point out that this is all taking place in the context of 2016. we know it's early but even mitch mcconnell on the senate side said in an interview to make his party not look scary for those voters making a decision in 2016 about who to vote ron fournier president. you have to remember mcconnell will be wrangling several members of his own caucus. if you think how senator cruz has operated over the last couple of years that potentially will put a lot of pressure or
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could on some of the more establishment candidates in the field. if you have cruz picking a big fight on capitol hill over immigration that has implications for somebody like jeb bush. >> to touch on the keystone issue the white house will not push it. what's the strategy? >> all signs from the white house seem to be that if a bill is passed that lands on the president's desk he would veto that. there are a couple of reasons for that. one, they simply don't feel like congress is the right venue for this project that this is something that should be approved by the state department. second a case working through the courts in nebraska about this pipeline. they want to let that be resolved before they move forward on the project. there's a theory though, that given that the president himself that said keystone is not as big of a deal as a lot of people are making it out on both sides that maybe he should just sign a bill get him some goodwill with
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republicans, maybe anger some of his democrats on capitol hill but there are a lot of democrats that actually support the keystone pipeline. there are some political benefits for the white house if the president were to change his mind and sign a keystone bill. >> quickly, there's some drama to unseat john boehner. how serious is that? what does it symbolize. >> it symbolizes the same fight they've been having for the last two years. at the end of the day it doesn't seem speaker boehner is in any danger of losing his seat because there's not a strong alternative. but you'll see those conservatives make the effort. major concerns that markets around the world after oil plunged below $50 a barrel on monday. the dow dropping more than 300 points, stocks not the only issue. joining us now, markets reporter for cnbc dominic chu. >> good morning. what we're talking about is an issue around the world with
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regard to whether or not markets are sustainable at their current levels. you hit on one big point. oil is one huge concern. traders say if oil prices continue to fall it will weigh on some of these oil companies in terms of their earnings. that's going to be a huge head wind for some of those companies going forward. another concern is what's happening around the world with greece and specifically how far it affects the rest of europe. greece not a large economy but whether or not greece exits the euro at least provides some commentary on whether or not the eurozone or monetary union can stay cohesive. there are demonstrations all over europe with regard to what they are going to do about the situation there. germany is a specific point fear for a lot of traders because germany is seen as the core of the european economy. chancellor angela merkel is deciding whether to step in. greece not a huge economy but a big deal. this is translating in to these
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losses that we're seeing. it's a worry for trades because we haven't seen this type of volatile markets over the course of the past four or five years. reminds a lot of people there are down markets to be had and just one idea what we could see. >> let me go back to oil for a second. what the low price of oil people see in the united states gas aaa announced 2.19 a gallon. that feels like good news. why does the dow drop. >> it is good news. good news for the consumer. gasoline prices are about $1.10, $1.12 lower than they were a year ago. that translates in to a huge boom for consumers. they can save a lot of money. that's a short term fix, though. because consumers can do that for a while but what happens when the companies that churn out this oil or have these jobs that pay these people start to maybe feel a little bit of that pressure? does that hurt job growth going forward?
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does that lead to higher unemployment? all of these things are structural. these oil and gas companies spend billions of dollars on capital expenditure items. things like drills equipment. cnbc's dominic chu. good explanation. we're talking about the volatility of the markets let's talk about the volatility of mother nature. torrential rain is causing massive flooding and mudslides in washington state. take a look at invideo. mudslides knocks a home off of its foundation and blocking the road of this town. red cross opened shelters for 200 residents. coast guard are on stand by. i want to bring in bill karins. it's raining out west but this arctic blast that's coming east that should get everybody bundled up and a little bit worried. >> that video is pretty amazing. wasn't even that heavy of a rain. must have been something that was leading up to that and about
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to give way over time because it wasn't that heavy of a rain event yesterday. a little over an inch of rain. let's talk about the snow and cold. washington, d.c., been snowing for the last hour. you have roads that are snow covered. we're looking at reagan national. we should be okay at the airports today. visibility a little low so some minor delays. as far as the snow goes light. fluffy. cold. it is sticking on the roads. so be careful out there this morning. we do have school delays in that region. also notice up towards the baltimore region 19 degrees snowing there. wider view shows it snowed overnight all the way back from des moines we picked up five inches columbus you picked up two to three. some of that light snow heads for philadelphia and all of new jersey and eventually into new york. i'm not expecting a lot of snow in the big cities like new york possibly an inch d.c. one to two fluffy inches and we're almost finished with our snow in
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indianapolis and columbus. next story is the cold. here comes round two. already on its way down. fargo, negative 20 wind chills and as we track this next cold blast the dangerous stuff today is coming down from canada and then as we go into wednesday, wind chill warning already in effect for areas from chicago to detroit and then by the time we get to thursday it swings to the east coast. this will be the coldest morning we've seen this winter and rival the cold from last winter. as we head towards the weekend it warms up a little bit but not a lot guys. looks like winter is here to stay. >> bill we'll be checking back in with you. >> i love it when he says the word fluffy. he used the word fluffy twice. >> fluffy snow. you stomp on and it blows away from your feet. >> what he's saying with his eyes is what i feel too.
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not right. still ahead on "morning joe," donny, i'm inviting you to stay with us. >> thank you. >> that's a blessing for you. we have a story out of austria where two u.s. ski team prospects were killed in an avalanche. those details are ahead. that's awful. also christie alley joins us in our 8:00 hour. tweet them to me if you have a question for her. do you like kirstie alley? >> is she single >> we'll be right back. ine from a list of top-rated providers. visit angieslist.com today.
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time now to take a look at the morning papers. jen, i'm here. is that okay with you? so sorry.
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all right. >> mika was first. yeah. she's the back bone of this operation. >> oh, wow. that was a little sarcastic. the "wall street journal," the son of 70-year-old hedge funds manager thomas gilbert has been charged with murdering his father thomas girl better jr. was taken into police custody just a few hours after his father was found with a gunshot wound to the head on sunday. it's believed gilbert jr. was having financial problems. law enforcement sources say gilbert's father recently suggested cutting his weekly allowance from $600 to $400. attorneys for the son had no comment. >> terrible story. another terrible story. "usa today" an avalanche in austerity why yesterday had tragic results for the u.s. team. ronnie berlack and brooisyce astle were training. they were both killed while four others were able to ski to
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safety. president of the u.s. ski and snowboard association remembered the late athletes by saying quote, ronnie and bryce were both outstanding ski racers who were passionate about their sport both on the course and skiing the mountains. both of them loved what they did and conveyed that to those around them. >> "new york times" harvard professors many who advise the obama administration on health care are in an uproar over having to pay more for coverage. faculty members voted to oppose the changes but the increases are still taking effect. harvard blaming national health care reform tore the rising costs while one classics professor calls it deplorable deeply regressive and a sign of the corporatization of the university. the school's president noted the distress and anxiety on campus but said the changes were necessary to keep the budget intact. >> playbill, broadway shows had a record breaking box office year in 2014 according to the
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broadway league. the industry experienced its best attended and highest grossing year in history. attendance increased 14% in the past year with more than $1 billion in ticket sales. i'll give the credit to jordan roth. he's awesome. that's great news. >> great year for broadway. >> "usa today," tennis star serena williams took an unusual break after falling behind after her first set. she asked if she could have a shot espresso to wake her up. she was wiped out. she said can i take a break. she's asking the umpire. confers with officials so find out if it's okay. williams allowed to take a pick me up shot on the sideline an espresso before continuing on with the match. it seemed to help. williams went on to win. >> what do i say? when i come in the morning i
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can't do anything -- maybe. i under it. >> it was 111 degrees on that court. >> is that true? >> you have an espresso shot? >> it worked. coming up -- something doesn't fit in this picture. you guys are very attractive. yes. >> thanks. >> honestly get on the runway. coming up the prisoner of capitol hill that's how politico describes house speaker john boehner saying he's quote in charge but never entirely in control. that plus a look at today's must read opinion pages when we come right back. i should just walk away. honestly. seriously. i'm going to go get a face lift.
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♪ all right. 32 past the hour. we're looking at some crazy weather. we're following that. time now for nuft read opinion pages. in the "the washington post" this is written. mitch mcconnell want republicans to be less scary and right now it's possible. republicans are at the moment in their first honeymoon period with the american public in a very long time. mitch mcconnell as well as speaker john boehner know that this honeymoon won't last all that long if the gop goes back to doing what it did over the past few years in congress. shoot itself in the foot.
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strategically speaking over and over again by failing to effectively navigate its factions. what mcconnell and boehner need in these first few weeks and months of the new congress is a series of low bars that they can clear, successes they can sell to a weary public as evidence they are not, in fact scary while in power. if they ever have a chance to convince the public of a newer kinder approach this is it. >> with us now on that subject, mr. mike allen. mike good morning. >> good morning. welcome to the 114th congress. >> it is that day. i'm holding in my hand right here a tight shot of speaker boehner. you're calling speaker bone terrify prisoner on capitol hill. why do you say that? >> this is a great piece that gives you a window into both the frustrations of being speaker and why so many people including the president think he's weak. two great quotes in this piece,
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willie. the speaker says i don't do anger. so he's tried to corral his difficult members by using other ways. he said his wife of 41 years has only seen him angry maybe once. so i don't do anger. and then the other quote, it leapt out at me in this piece he said i'm not really into legacy. glen was pushing him on what he wanted to do and certainly in these final upcoming years. he wouldn't put his finger on anything. willie my favorite scene was a couple of leadership aides said that he's, the speaker thinks president obama as being too senatorial, which he was from illinois and by too senatorial he means a smart guy who lectures. they said often the speaker will be on the phone with president obama. he's smoking his filtered camel
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99s as he always does and set the receiver down like take a couple of drags out of his cigarette, ask his staff for a file, look around and just in time pick up the phone again and say ah-ha, i'm not sure about that mr. speaker. a bit of news the end the white house after the election floated the idea of bringing all the house and senate republican and democratic leaders up to camp david to reset the relationships after the campaign. the idea isn't dead it didn't happen then it could still happen. >> so i got a question. we have mark halperin joining us. same question to julie pace. what are the low bars they could have success with work with the white house on that would show what he's talking about in terms of being less scary if that is indeed scary. >> the big things you can do you can't rush them through since they want to go back to regular order. i think a lot of it is
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atmospheric. how do they treat the president at the state of the union. do they look at everything he proposes and say all dead on arrival or say we don't agree with the president on everything he proposed but here's some things -- >> they have to have successes. something has to get done. >> trade. all about a trade deal which will be significant not just because it will show the president working with republicans but the president turning his back on the afl-cio and a lot of democrats in congress who won't agree with trade deal. >> julie pace is that where you see potential for success? >> trade is probably the most realistic area. there are a couple of other things coming up. one big area where republicans will be looking to show success and not have a huge internal fight is over funding for department of homeland security. that funding was authorized through february. so the fight will be whether to fund the department how you do it what you do with the
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president's actions on immigration. >> and in "the washington post" mark halperin we have dana milbank writing about the attempt to unset john boehner. not a serious one. won't happen. symbolizing that they still have problems within. >> they have huge problems from within. every one of these things including dealing with homeland security boehner and mcconnell have to figure out how to corral the people on the right. the thing about boehner he doesn't get angry. people laugh at certain aspects of his are personality, he's a happy person and well-liked. mcconnell doesn't have that image. he has to deal with the president and ted cruz and mike lee and others smiling happy, joking that's what the american people want. >> he needs a reset. >> he needs to think they won't
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be rescued by their presidential nominee for a year or more. they are the leaders. they are the face of the republican party. it's not steve ska lies. it's boehner and mcconnell for better or worse. that's who needs to step forward to be happy, bold and optimistic. >> mike allen, politico magazine fascinating a look at all the republicans in there. you guys competitive. got to tell you. thank you very much. we'll be reading this in the next issue. also we'll take a closer look on what's on the republican agenda coming up including congress's first order of business the keystone pipeline. plus the first major feature film about dr. king is coming under fire for the portrayal of an entirely different character. stay with us for more on that. we come by almost every day to deliver
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♪ welcome back to "morning joe." 41 past the hour. the first order of business in the new republican led congress the keystone pipeline. gop lawmakers plan to file legislation in both chambers today and here with us now from capitol hill the man who authored the house version of the bill republican representative from north dakota and incoming member of the energy and commerce committee congressman kevin cramer. welcome. good morning. >> good morning. thanks for having me. >> i guess the first question for you, sir, is this going to happen? >> it's going to happen. we're going to bring it up on to the floor in a rather experiod indicted fashion this week. the rule will be debated probably in the rules committee tomorrow, be on the floor thursday and i expect we'll have debate and vote on friday and sends it over to the senate. >> it seems mark halperin this is one area where there's room
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to breathe? >> maybe. there should be in the abstract. i've always thought there's no way the democrats would go along with this unless they got it as part of a bigger deal with trade off on other things like negligent and climate and that's not how republicans are approaching it. the president should be talking to republicans about this legislation rather than just waiting, laying in wait to reto it. >> has there been any emergencies from the white house on this to try to broker anything sir? >> none that i'm aware of mika. at the same time i am encouraged by the fact he has issued a we threat. when you look for incremental progress that's some progress. he's not wielding the veto pen in front of us. >> julie pace? >> the white house has all but said they are going to veto it. they say they take a dim view of the legislation. when the president talks about keystone says that on both sides
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of this debate people are over estimating the impact of the project. i'm wondering what you think the impact of the keystone pipeline would be in terms of job growth and energy prices given that we've seen oil prices falling, gas prices falling over the last couple of months? >> i think it's significant. you have to be i'm from north dakota and i spent nearly ten years as an energy regulator in north dakota prior to coming to congress two years ago. in fact i carried the pipeline portfolio for the north dakota public service commission through 600 landowners land in a number of communities and county. it's a significant job growth opportunity not just the job for welders, backhoe operators but the local restaurants and retailers and hotels that actually, you know thrive and survive as a result of the construction itself. it's very important. the issues are far beyond that even. when we think about national
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security we think about energy security you talk about the drop in oil prices. this current drop in oil prices is a clear demonstration of how vulnerable we still are to a global situation, geopolitics outside of our control. i think the keystone pipeline represents an opportunity to take more control and perhaps be the price maker than the price taker, stabilize prices at an appropriate level at least not be so seesusceptible to the opec nations whether it's a spike up or down. >> some of your colleagues would not like to see speaker borne return as speaker. what kind of sympathy do you have for their arguments against speaker boehner? >> well you know, i frankly thing an island is an obviously place to legislate from. a lot of people are trying to put others on an island with few inhabitants. i don't know how you can look at a party that took over the
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largest majority now for republicans in the house of representatives in 76 years and somehow think that's a bad thing and result of bad leadership. >> who is on the island? >> what the congressman is saying it's a bad place to be on that island. >> i do not. i fully support speaker boehner for all the reasons that is just stated we had tremendous success. you can't isolate him away from that success. you have to give him a good deal of the credit. frankly your discussion earlier was relevant. one thing i appreciate about john boehner he doesn't panic in getting to 218 votes to get a majority. he always maintains a cheerful demeanor and stable demeanor and this is a place that needs stability and he has the hardest job in politics in america if not the world. >> maybe it's a time as republicans to your point to take a victory lap i'll just throw out some positives about
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our president would be a comment. obviously the economy, quarter after quarter of growth. oil may not be his doing but all time low. opening up cuba. saving the auto industry. killing osama bin laden. taking a hard line on immigration. passing most important legislation whether you like it or not. one could argue this has bean very successful presidency. hand across the aisle, can you give any credos to our commander-in-chief? >> some are good and some i disagree with and so does the american public in large part with these successes that you state. one thing i would give him -- >> which -- >> you talk about the biggest piece of legislation in recent history, obamacare. i don't support it neither does the american public.
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oil, you're welcome on behalf of north dakota. north dakota is largely successful because most of our oil is on state and private land not federal land. we need to open up federal land and offshore to get the economy growing and create energy security and economic security. that said i will tell you that i do part with some of my colleagues with regard to the president's most recent discussion about opening up relations with cuba. i think 53 years of isolation is long enough to demonstrate that it doesn't work and that in fact, if we're committed to spreading liberty and democracy across the globe we should start 90 miles off our coast and provide opportunities to be the country of influence with our neighbors 90 miles away who already have an affinity for our lifestyle. i'm with him on the cuba thing and i'm looking forward to work with him in congress to forward
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that what i think is an appropriate goal. >> congressman kevin cramer thank you so much for being on the show this morning. still ahead she's starting off the new year with new look. tweet me your questions for kirstie alley. donny will join us. i'll give you a chance. >> stay tuned. >> do you want to co-host that hour? >> yes, i do. >> thank you. you have to be appropriate. >> it's the bachelor msnbc. >> she joins us in a bit at her own peril. first new controversy surrounding the film "selma" and has nothing to do with the civil rights leader martin luther king, jr. that story is next. fastidious librarian emily skinner, each day was fueled by thorough preparation for events to come. well somewhere along the way emily went right on living.
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♪ there's a lot of award season buzz as you probably heard for the new civil rights film "selma." but the movie is coming under fire from some critics saying it distorts history including the way it portrays former president lyndon b. johnson. andrea mitchell has more on the story. >> reporter: bloody sunday, the confrontation that shocked a nation in march of 1965.
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only 2% of african-americans in selma could register to vote thanks to local laws as shown in the new movie "selma." >> how many county judges in alabama? >> 67. >> name them. >> hundreds and how to sands of negro citizens of alabama but particularly here are denied the right to vote. >> reporter: john lewis took such a beating he almost died. >> it would educate people that was too young to know what was going on. riot critics say this first hollywood film about martin luther king, jr. while getting raves for its raw portrayal of the civil rights leader unfairly depicts president lyndon b. johnson as a reluctant civil rights warrior. >> we need your help. >> things have to wait. >> reporter: lbj ordered his attorney general to draft a voting rights law. it shows them to be at odds with one another. in fact the opposite was true. they were very much supportive
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of each other. >> reporter: working together on voting reits. >> we take the position that every person born in this country when they reach a certain age that he have a right to vote. >> reporter: also disputed the film suggestion that lbj ordered j. edgar hoover to spy on king exposing his infidelities. do you think the film is unfair to lyndon johnson? >> i don't think -- it's drama. i love the film. the film is so real. it is powerful. it made me cry. >> the film does not purported to be a documentary. it's actually quite largely accurate, but not every single thing in it is accurate. >> reporter: in the end the film acknowledges lbj's dramatic voting rights speech only eight days after bloody sunday. >> we shall overcome. >> reporter: as martin luther king, jr. praises johnson in shared triumph. >> you can see andrea's full
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interview with congressman john lewis on her show "andrea mitchell reports" today at noon. still ahead the breaking news overnight two plain-clothes new york city police officers shot on a call for an armed robbery in the bronx. two suspects still at large. all just hours after mayor de blasio specks out on the nypd some of whose members turned their back on him during a fellow officer's funeral. kormer co-star of the cosby show breaks her silence on bill cosby. we'll tell you who it was and what she said. much more "morning joe" ahead.
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it's the top of the hour. welcome back to "morning joe." mark halperin and donny deutsche are still with us. joining us also cokie roberts. good to have you on board. >> nice be with you. >> guys we got a lot to talk about. a lot of disturbing with dynamics playing out in the new york city police department and the debate of those getting more vigorous. we'll start with what overnight in new york city where two plain-clothes on duty police officers were shot. nbc's rehemeth ellis has the details. >> reporter: a manhunt is under way for two suspects in the shooting of two new york city police officers responding to at
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that robbery call overnight. two officers were shot one teenager and lower back the other was shot teenager and chest. they are both expected to recover. police say the suspects had car jacked a vehicle, crashed it and escaped on foot. police say they found a gun near the car. while officials say this was not a targeted shooting it comes as police across the city remain on edge. just a day earlier thousands of officers gathered for the funeral of an nypd officer, he and his partner were gunned down in what was a targeted shooting two weeks ago. during the funeral some officers turned their backs on mayor bill de blasio as a sign of the growing ritf between the mayor and police. a $10,000 award success offered for the arrest and conviction of the two suspects involved in this latest shooting. mika back to you. >> the backdrop these stats which are really troubling,
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mayor de blasio announced overall crime fell by 5% last year and that the city had its fewest murders since 1993. but more attention success paid to statistics showing a dramatic decline in the number of arrests and summons for the second straight week. the total number of criminal summons issued plunged more than 90%. the overall number of arrests declined 56%. commissioner bratton stopped short of calling it a work slow down, but promised that the nypd would look into the decline and warned officers there would be consequences if it's intentional. the police association say no slow down exists and blames it on police monitoring protests and doubling up on police cars. joining us now from boston the former chief of the boston police department dan linskey. he was the incident commander during the boston bombing.
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dan, i want to start with new york. i don't know. does it took like anything but a work slow down? >> it looks like for the past two weeks the nation's eyes have been focused on new york as they lay two of their brothers to rest and i think the men and women of nypd have been doing double duty trying to pay homage and take care of those families in a time of crisis and need and at the same time police protest and do the every day things. two of ny's finest being shot in the line of duty. nypd is out doing their job. do we think people didn't make discretionary sflaeft i'm sure that happened. i think we give the officers some time to catch their breath to have the emotion of the last couple of weeks subside. the majority you know we see this in police departments around the country. officers go out every night and do the majority of their work and other officers who have put their time on and aren't as
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aggressive that natural order of thing will get back in the next few days and nypd will be doing what they did best last year keeping the city safe, cutting crime and building trust. >> no bigger fan of the police force than myself my grandfather was a mounted cop in harlem. do you agree with commissioner bratton that the officers made a mistake turning their backs at the funeral. >> the first time there was an emotional response and i think people just reacted to that emotional response. the second time was unfortunate because there was some time to think of how that would impact the family. instead of just focusing on laying that officer to rest it took away from that. i think, you know there's cause for concern. the police don't feel mayor has their back. and the mayor somehow gave them that impression. let's put that aside. i know the men and women of nypd respect commissioner bratton.
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let's get them focused on their mission. their day-to-day mission. to do what they did last year lower crime and build trust with the community and move forward. there was time to heal. that was unfortunate and it did take away. >> dan before you go other news out of boston actually. dzhokar tsarnaev the surviving brother of the pair accused in the attack of the boston marathon went on trial on monday as jury selection got under way. what's the reaction in boston >> the reaction is that you know, our system has moved forward. this is what we have to do we went through a terrible tragedy here and we have to go through a process to hold people accountable. and make sure that their rights are respected. that's what will play out in boston. it's an emotional time for the city and we will get through it. and, you know, boston will be strong again. >> all right. dan, thank you very much for joining us this morning. other news to get to. a lot of it political.
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disgraced former virginia governor bob mcdonnell is set to be sentenced today after being convicted for corruption. mcdonnell stead fastly denied allegation that he and his wife received more than $56,000 in loans and gifts while in the governor's mansion. the legal team paintled his wife as petty and unstable and he was out of the loop when it came to the extent of her relationship with ceo of star scientific. mcdonnell faces more than a decade in prison and friends and family have asked for leniency. his own mother took her mother to task reading, quote, my mom has always been dernd about getting discounts or freebies. she head her coordination with people for free or discounted things or service and didn't communicate with my dad because she knew he would not approve. the testimony that my mom was not just part of a defense strategy and was not an attempt to throw her under the bus but
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unfortunately was the reality. mark halperin? >> that's a heartwrenching letter. the family is obviously dealing with a lot. the gap between what the prosecutors are asking for which is like a decade in prison and what the defense team is asking for is community service vast. this is a case where bob mcdonnell had pled before trial or tried to make a deal he would be better off. my gut is he's going face a long sentence. >> i think it's a travesty for two reasons. there's never the guy never received favors. the law in that state was very fuzzy. this is an over reach. >> cokie what an incredible -- >> this is horrible. watching this family implode in public is just horrible. it's grim. look he was in the wrong place at the wrong time. mark is right he should have taken a deal before they ever
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went to trial. but the fact is that juries you know, are not happy with public officials who seem to be cutting corners, and getting away with things that they feel like they couldn't get away with. i mean that's the main message in all kinds of things in politics these days is that people want politicians to be regular. and to think about them and to think about their lives and not about the politician's life. >> also cokie, you have family members who served and i had family members -- right now in office. >> let's hear about cokie's family. >> these rules are real. >> absolutely. >> you can't -- even if there was no communication between husband and wife that's actually terrible because you have to make a decision on what you can accept and what you
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can't. >> the whole family. >> what can you say. everything matters. >> absolutely. you know, i'm sure you had this experience mika. i was raised you really didn't do anything that you didn't expect to -- that if it showed up in the "times-picayune" the next day you wouldn't be embarrassed about. that was kind of like growing up as the minister's kid. but it was the way you were raised. and the whole family was told about it from the day we were born, and you would assume the same thing would be true in a governor's mansion. >> i mean for so many reasons it's very stressful for families who serve or are in public office not just because of these rules that's not the part that's stressful built you are under a microscope and living by a different set of standards than everybody else. >> cokie brings up an interesting point about juries. if you're a politician or
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financer you're going to lose. bob mcdonnell. you start hanging out with rich people with private planes and tickets to football games and after a while you think maybe i want to -- his wife want ad bigger lifestyle than he could afford. >> i felt the same way it was interesting the crazy hug with jerry jones and chris christie. dude seems like you want another life >> he has a good life. >> to the new congress. >> think about all this for what? he was bob mcdonnell bob for jobs, talked about as a vice presidential candidate, future presidential candidate. his family implodes in public and for what? to cozy up to a vitamin guy and have a party at a governor's mansion. terrible story. >> a new congress begins today. >> let's go washington now. the most diverse one in history although that's a relative term will be sworn in. both chambers are set to be run by republicans for the first
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time since the bush administration. the house leadership is expected to stay intact with speaker john boehner projected to survive a vote later this morning despite a little grumbling from his right flank. steve scalise will remain in his position. a recent flap over a meeting he may have atwend a white supremacist organization in 2002 still has democrats trying to make political hay. >> there's no arguing that who republicans decide to elevate into a leadership position says a lot about what the conference's priorities and values are. and, i mean ultimately, mr. scalise reportedly described himself as david duke without the baggage so it's up to republicans to decide what it says about their conference. >> from the podium at the white house. mitch mcconnell is expected to try to make it more inclusive
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than his democratic predecessor harry reid did by allowing more amendments and greater debate he says. the house and senate are expected to for the president's hand in passing a bill supporting the keystone pipeline us a heard in our last hour. the house could vote before the week's close. mark, i'll start with you. to the cynical american viewer watching today, why will things be any different, why will they be any better now that you have a republican house and republican senate against this president. a republican house alone was confrontational awloen this president, why will more things get done nirngt two years. >> i'm not sure they will. but here's why they might. the economy is better. tradeoffs are less difficult. republicans do want to get stuff done not just to prove they can govern but they came to washington to get things done. and if you look historically where you had congress controlled by one party, the presidency controlled by another that's a recipe to get things
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done. >> let's go to cokie. >> mark is right. the divided government is often the most productive government. because what happens often is that you have a president who can then make a deal with the leadership of the other party and his own party will then back it and that's not necessarily the case when it's all one way or the other. and so you know one of the best examples is welfare reform in the clinton administration. which would not have happened the way it did with just a democratic congress. it took a republican congress and a democratic president to have it happen. you can go through example after example like that. but i have to say this challenge to boehner today is going to be so awkward because this is -- this is a great day in congress. actually my favorite day every two years because you go in and
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it's all families there's these little children on the floor in their christmas velvets. there's always a baby that's looking up at some new member of congress who that baby has never seen that man before. he was running for office through that whole baby's life and the baby will look up and wonder who on earth is this man whose arms i'm in and burst into tears. it's a riot. and it's just a great, great day. and to have this awkward challenge in the middle of it is just a peculiar moment. >> so clearly sort of it's going to be unsuccessful so it's for what? i totally agree with you. cokie, is it fair to say we were reading from the article in the last hour how republicans need some successes under their belt they need to start off well and to show they can do something. is it fair to say both sides need some successes and that also may talk about the movement
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you potentially might see. >> sure both sides need successes. you got -- it's still, you know, just the beginning of 2015. but all eyes are on 2016. and that means not only the presidency of course but the senate where the republicans have some seats up in very difficult states. and i think that it's going tomb having to prove to the voters that there's actually some reason to vote for them because so far it's only been voting against. >> go ahead, mark. >> there's a secret caucus in the senate like 75 senators actually want to make deals. >> really? >> and if those 75 can get together and figure out a way to channel that desire into legislation, i think boehner can work with mcconnell to get it done. >> what about some sort of secret meeting or come together at camp david or something that shows something we've never seen before cokie?
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>> i have no idea whether something like that will happen. it would be probably more productive for the president just to do what president nixon did which is to have a joint leadership breakfast on a weekly basis. that's something, you know, where you have an ongoing relationship. and then instead of some you know great moment at camp david. it wouldn't surprise me if maybe the president was invited to show up at the republican retreat, which is happening next week. that's happened before. and maybe they will invite him again and see how that goes. but, you know they can't completely ignore these people on their right and that's part of the reason that these folks in the house are going to make their point today because they want to make the point that look just because you guys want to get something done we still want to be heard as the no caucus. >> we'll watch that unfold.
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we'll also celebrate the day as new congress unfolds because i love the description with all the babies. you're absolutely right. before we go to break, torrential rains causing massive flooding and mudslides in washington state. got video here that was uptlood vine, a hillside actually breaks loose and knocks a home off of its foundation blocking the only road in town. red cross opened an emergency shelter for 200 residents affected. coast guard is on stand by. let's go straight to bill karins for more. >> that was an amazing scene. in the olympic mountains. to the west of the seattle peugeot sound region. it was the mountainous areas that got the worst and the mudslide threats continue today. they think the threat will go down as we go throughout the next few days. let's talk about the threat to the east. we that have cold which is dangerous important,ly deadly. but first a mini snowstorm. washington, d.c. already reports
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of an inch on the ground in d.c. there are numerous school delays in the d.c. area. also up to baltimore. it just started snowing right now in philadelphia. so you can see the visibility is a little low. could have some airport delays. plenty cold. look at the roof of the white house. the snow is sticking there and see snow front lawn. d.c. hasn't had much snow. one of the first times many people are having to drive in it this. winter season. snow in the philadelphia area gray and white is the very light snow going across central pennsylvania, careful on the pennsylvania turnpike and also on 80 and it does look like new york city probably a half hour from now you'll see your first flakes. not expecting a lot. just enough to make sidewalks and roads slick. pittsburgh, chicago and columbus we're just about done. after this is done then we get the cold. already getting very cold in areas like fargo. this cold blast comes down today in the northern plains. wednesday in the great lakes.
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thursday morning will be brutal one of the coldest mornings we've seen in a long time from boston to new york city. thursday morning is the one you guys will come in and not be the nicest. >> bill can you say our special word one more time? >> i said it too many times last time. i used up my quota. >> i think you're strange. >> for those viewers, bill karins used the word "fluffy" several time. it was special for everybody. >> i'll say it's time to go to break. cokie roberts, we're sorry but please stay with us if you would because it's so great to have some credibility here. >> i like fluffy. >> see when she says it i like it. still ahead on "morning joe" actress kirstie alley joins us in our next hour if she hasn't been watching our last hour. if you have a question for her tweet them to me @morningmic gentleman. for you "game of throne" fans
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♪ time now to take a look at the morning papers. we'll start with the "new york times." hezbollah official has admitted the militant group is battling espionage within its ranks. several media outlet's in the region have report ad senior member of the group was caught spying for israel. >> from msnbc.com the famous hubbell telescope is celebrating its 25th anniversary. in 1995 a photo of a region of the eagle nebula known as the
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pillars of creation showed for the first time giant columns of cold gas illuminated by light. hubbell returned to the site last year providing astronomers of an updated image with a sharper view of the area. the stunning photo shows how region has changed over time. >> from the "huffington post" college students now pay more of the cost of attending public universities than state governments. according to at that recent government accountability tuition passed state funding in 2012 accounting for a quarter of public college revenue. so the gao says the difference is making college unaffordable. >> completely unaffordable. it's ridiculous. it's a huge problem. variety magazine hbo releasing "game of thrones" in 150 imax theaters. a trailer for the upcoming season will air for one week
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beginning on january 23rd. "game of thrones" is the first tv steers be shown on imax screens. >> intense enough. can you imagine? >> "game of thrones" movie and then the battle of castle black. >> got it. >> huge. red wedding in imax. espn.com indianapolis/colts figure adam vinatieri has been selected to take a drug test left than 24 hours after he kicked a field goal. he's having one of his best seasons making 34 of 35 attempts. colts puncher mcafee not surprised about the drug test. he tweet when you're closer to 60 than 20 and bang a 53-yarder three quarters of the way this type of thing is expected. >> i say leave the 42-year-old alone. >> okay. >> for the moment. >> the "daily mail," next week
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the simpsons will run a special episode written by judd apatow when he was 22 and struggling to break into the television. while the script was rejected one of the producers decided to make it after apatow. homer is hypnotized into thinking he's 10 years old because friends with his son bart and doesn't want to return to his old life. step sod airs on sunday. i can't tell if i like this story or not. >> now judd apatow you want my script. >> i like the simpsons. coming up our next guest says 2015 will see more geopolitical risks than any other year since the end of the cold war. happy new year. the top hot spots when we come back.
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♪ welcome back to "morning joe." according to the eurasia group, political conflict is at a peak going back to the end of the cold war. joining us now is the groupess founder with his firm's list of
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top geopolitical risks of 2015. we're counting down the hits for 2015. ian, let's start with your number one risk of 2015 which is the politics of europe. what are they and why are they such a risk to the world? >> the economics are better. couple of years ago we were talking how europe is imploding. they got through. they got through. out of recession. spain putting good job numbers on the board. the politics are so negative in every direction. a lot of populism coming up that's growing all of these euro skeptic parties in greece and spain, reasonably likely that those parties will not come in to office but establishment leaders have to grab on to those policies. germany versus greece dynamic is much worse than it ever was. chancellor merkel saying we can handle a greek exit and greek
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saying germany and germany's role is a serious piece why people are going to the polls. final point is that all of this is happening in the geopolitical context that's negative for europe. the russia crisis and all the middle east radicalization of islam leading to refugees across europe. the politics every where you look in europe are bad. >> surprising russia is not at the top of the list but i guess it's part of it. >> part of it. all by itself it's number two. >> mark halperin? >> i want to ask about russia because i think maybe i would put it number one. >> that's what i was wondering. >> where is putin now in terms of the threat. will he expand more? standing pat? what's likely toe happen this year in terms of territorial aggression. >> he's not standing pat. he could expand the the russian economy was larger. europe is so big for the global economy when things are going badly. having said that putin will dominate a lot of headlines. oil prices are moving towards
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$50 right now. that kills the russian economy. but putin's approval ratings are going towards 90% and the reason for that isn't oil. the reason is his effective demonization of the west, the united states, the sanctions, ukraine. this is a guy who is absolutely not going to back down in this environment. >> what's his next aggressive move? >> a few things. one is potential of expansion of the territory that they are presently occupying in ukraine. land bridge to crimea. to take over more of the military industrial complex. we don't talk much about the east china sea, but the potential for military accidents between russia and nato given all the russian overflight that's a significant one. we had another commercial airliner in scandinavia that was hit by a russian nato jet. the biggest danger is russian
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cyber attacks against american financial institutions. they clearly will ramp that up. we're hitting them with sanctions that are really aimed at not punishing the russians but punishing putin and people arobertson him. putin takes that personally. he won't sit pat. he absolutely will give back. there's no question russia is the most unnerving geopolitical piece moving in the world today and the russia/china relationship is one that's a very dangerous one, certainly not in america's interest going forward. >> i definitely heard cyber attacks are the new frontier of this next year from high level officials. >> we've seen some of it. number three you mentioned china. we've been talking in the last decade for off the charts growth. that slows down a little bit. what are the implications. >> the risk interestingly isn't on china.
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he has more flexibility. what that means, xi does well. chinese political stability is very high in 2015. but the way that the economy slows down means you're not is going to see the commodities purchasing. all the countries riding that china wave for 30 years, indonesia, australia, thailand and some of the sub sahara brazil will take it on the chin. one of the good pieces of news in this report two largest economies in the world united states and china actually look pretty good in 2015. but the knock on effects neither of those countries want to do an awful lot to fix the rest of the world's problems that's where you start to see these challenges. >> how about this one. the weaponization of finance. what do you mean by that term?
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>> what i mean is that the united states and the way we project power as the world's only superpower not our nuclear arsenal, boots on the ground sound like a quaint term. people are oppose toitd. not that the united states is turning inward. we're projecting power. we're doing it it more unilaterally. the ability of the united states to use the dollar use market access, use access to the world's largest financial institutions as a stick, as a lever that can actually promote american national interests that's weaponization of finance and u.s. is doing that very effectively to squeeze the russians to squeeze the north koreans after cyber attack squeeze iranians. a lot of america's allies the banks among america's allies their companies are not able to touch a lot of these countries and they are not happy about it because their economies are doing a lot worse than
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america's. >> whose the architect of that? >> that's an interesting question. there's a lot of people in washington wondering sort of where that decision-making process should sit and if you go talk to the chairman of the joint chiefs in washington he'll ask you and say is this a state department thing, a white house thing? no question the white house is taking the lead on the decision-making here. but if you ask me is there a thought out process of how the united states uses the dollar aggressively as a policy is there an architect, is there a strategy the answer is no. one of the reasons this is a risk is precisely is because it's kind of new and pretty ad hoc. >> which is happening by itself. no one in the administration a kissinger strategist saying here's how we'll use the dollar. >> i think the answer is no. >> that's crazy. >> there are people -- >> that's crazy. >> people are making these decisions strategically in response to individual crises as they occur because everyone says we don't want to get involved militarily. they are vulnerable
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economically. i do not believe there's anyone in washington right now that's sitting there saying let's develop a strategy for weaponization of the dollar. >> ian bremer counting down the top hits of 2015 not top hits top geopolitical risks. thank you so much. that was fascinating. coming up two heads are better than one? our next guest explains why they may not agree with that. okay. stay with us. we'll explain that coming up.
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new book. you hear how productive collaboration is and teamwork and stuff like that. want to talk about the book. just wonder what it's like to be husband of s-it okay to be the husband of? >> it's fantastic. >> samantha power, his wife. like one of my heroes i have to say. she's the coolest ever. you have two little kids. you're in the thick of it. i wish the best luck. congratulations on this again. let's get to the heart of the matter here. you say there's a danger in happy talk when you're collectively thinking. explain the concept here? >> the big problem often groups have people who silence themselves who don't say what they know who want to please the leader than inform the leader so they tend to say happy things, they don't want to promote anxiety or increase the burden on the leader's shoulder. that's a bad team player than a good team player >> he said the danger of happy
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talk good managers are aware of information aggregation and know role assignment can reduce the risk of happy talk. happy talk occurs when group members say all is going well and likely to go better and there's nothing to worry about. we think that happy talk is a pervasive source of group failures. in fact happy talk is a principle target of this book. >> i love this talk. congratulations, professor. i built a very successful business built on this premise. we were a collaborative company. i had amazing people with aggregate information but at the end it was benevolent dictatorship. no group decisions are ever good because of the basics of human dynamics. it's a great book. >> thanks. i love the word benevolent and behe in vollin dictatorship. if it's just a dictatorship you won't get information and the be
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benevolent means you're getting the information. >> it seems to me you're talking about a guy group. i somehow don't see it working the same way when women are working together. did you see differences between the sex? >> we do. there's actually some good evidence that women in some ways better group members than men and the reason is that women tend to have on average more social intelligence that is they can read the emotions in a room. and there's data suggesting that while general intelligence is a terrific predictor of group success and men and women are equal on that count, social intelligence meaning the ability to figure out what's happening among people is something women are just a bit better at. >> yeah. not surprising. >> let's go over this the eight ways to reduce failure, the recommendations that you say reducing group failure in
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inquisitive and self-silencing leaders. priming critical thinking. rewarding group success. the role of roles. >> happy talk is produced because people don't have a specific role which leads them to describe what they personally know. if you have someone in the room who is an economist or someone who is a doctor or an engineer or even if that's not their profession that's what they are specializing in and they know that's their role they will give the group the term it needs to have. >> then we have speak of the devil. contrarian teams. delphi method. >> the delif i method is picking up on the obvious fact if people are not speaking anonymously they will say what the group is inclined to believe is true in order to preserve their own reputation. people sometimes just shut up.
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the delphi me sthod athod is a term to figure out what people think and there's ways of making that formal by way of secret ballot or the leader getting people in a room privately and saying tell me what you actually believe. >> last but not least playing moneyball. >> that's about data. often you will have a group which will have people that are really smart and dedicated bath they have some intuitions in their head. they may be optimistic this product will being a great. but it's not based on evidence. the idea of moneyball which works for baseball works in business and works in government too is to make things based on evidence as much as can you. don't just take an opinion poll if you can actually go behind the opinions to figure out what's the data that supports the optimism the pessimism, the anxiety or the happy talk then business, the government will be in better shape. >> the big summation is
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openness collaboration, honesty, contraryism, but at the end of the day single minded decision. >> you need a decision maker but often good for the decision make terrify leader own president roosevelt was great that to be kind of quiet at the beginning, or make people think he doesn't think the direction they are headed is stupid. that way he can get the best form of the argument even if he ultimately -- >> speak less. >> the concept about women being more effective at this works when you're working towards a goal for a team or a company, but when they negotiate for themselves all goes out the window and men are better. >> absolutely right. very important fact. i hope it's changing. slogan for it is women don't ask and if you're negotiating you need to ask so there's a lot of data suggesting men know even when they are relatively young ask for the moon they might get that feel moon. women would say what would you
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like offer me regularly so they gate worse offer. >> the book is "wiser." thank you so much. say hi to samantha. cokie robs thanks. washington, d.c. is bracing for a big snowstorm while other parts of the northeast have dangerously low temperatures in their future. we'll check in with bill karins on all of that plus the actress who played rudy huxtabel on the cosby show comes out in support of her tv dad. more on that next on "morning joe".
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all right. so this is really interesting. we've covered a lot of lesser known angles of the cosby situation. so now we have one of the stars of the cosby show speaking out in support of bill cosby as multiple women have come guard to accuse him of sexual assault. keisha knight pulliam says she cannot ignore his legacy and urged others to respect due process. >> i wasn't there. no one was there except for the two people to know exactly what happened. all i can speak to is the man i know and love. the fact that he's been such an example. you can't take away from the
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great he has done. the millions and millions of dollars that he has given back to colleges and education and just what he did with the cosby show and how ground breaking that was. >> were you shocked by the allegations? >> ultimately they're just that allegations. and it's very much been played out in the court of public opinion. but you know we're still in america where ultimately you're innocent until proven guilty and i wasn't there. that's just not the man i know. so i can't speak to it. >> so pullium giving this interview after she was fired from celebrity apprentice for not calling bill cosby to ask for a charity or donation. you try to use who you know. >> that was before this all happened. >> yeah, the episode was recorded months before the reports of allegations came forward. but trump didn't like the fact she didn't reach into the bag of tricks.
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his attorney has denied any allegations. >> so donnie, you've said in the past cosby should not talk. >> i respect what that young woman says. this is the man i know. >> sounds like she's talking about her experience. >> but there's just too many people who come forward. after 31 whatever the number is. it's hard to see the suspect. bill cosby has to lay low. there's no strategy for this one. there's no fix. unless 30 women are just making things up there's no answer for this other than he hopes a news cycle takes it away. still ahead, two new york city police officers shot in an armed robbery call in the bronx. plus welcome to the 114th congress. casey hunt reports from capitol hill on what to expect there. and extreme weather in much of the country. flooding and mud slides out
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west. and an arctic blast bringing the codest weather all season to the great lakes and midatlantic. bill karins has what you need to know before you walk out the door. we're back with much more "morning joe" many just a moment.
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that's loud. that outfit. >> him? >> you look great, willie. you always look dapper and sweet and charming. >> he's got purple. i've got purple. >> you know! >> in washington we have the white house correspondent for the associated press, julie pace and casey hunt it's good to have you all this morning. we have a lot to get to starting here in new york city. a man hunt is under way right now, after two plain clothed on duty officers were shot. the officers were shot while responding to a robbery. surveillance video shows one of the two suspects opening fire on the officers. they got away when a car they car jacked crash. but a man who went to the hospital with a gunshot wound is now being questioned. they're not sure if he's one of the suspects. one officer was shot in the back and arm, and the other was wounded in the arm and the chest. they were in critical but stable condition. both are expected to recover. police say it does not appear
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they were targeted. this came hours after the mayor who recently clashed are police unions criticized hundreds of officers who turned their back to him at a slain police officer's funeral. those thoughts echoed by bill broth bratton who said officers could find other ways to protest. >> what was the need in the middle of that ceremony to engage in a political action? i don't get it. looking at the papers this morning. the cover stories and so many papers focused on their action focused on them. the selfishness of that action. the selfishness of it. a funeral is not a place for that. come demonstrate outside city hall and police headquarters. don't put on a uniform and go to a funeral and engage in a political action. >> those individuals who took
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certain actions these last week or last two weeks really they were disrespectful to the families involved. that's the bottom line. they were disrespectful to the families who lost their loved one. and i can't understand why anyone would do such a thing in a context like that. i think it just defies a lot of what we all feel is the right and decent thing to do when you're dealing with a family in pain. >> first things first, we hope the two cops shot last night are okay. report ps that we're getting is they are going to survive. back and forth with the officers at the funeral the other day. you heard commissioner bratton reference the papers in this town. end this war now with a picture of bratton, mayor de blasio and the head of the police union. donnie this has gotten uglier by the day, it feels. how do we get out of this? >> first of all, i'm a big bill
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bratton fan. to come out and say this is wrong is a bold move. there's a stat that just came out that arrests are down by half. and they came out and say police officers are patrolling the arrests. my gut tells me it's a result that cops are being told hey, pull back. it's a scary possible result f of all of this. my grandfather was a cop. cops are afraid to do their jobs right now. everybody loses in that situation. cops were wrong in the funeral. the big story is i hope we're not handcuffing, no pun intended, our police officers. >> that's the other headline this morning. overall crime fell by 5% last year. the city had the fewest murders since 1993. but more attention is paid to the way donny mentioned.
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a statistic showing a dramatic decline in the number of arrests and summonses for the second straight week. the total number of summonses issued plunged. more than 90%. and the overall number of arrests declined 56%. now commissioner bratton stopped short of calling it a work slowdown but warned eded officers there would be consequences if it was intentional. >> his take is it's not covered from the top down. that's interesting. that was my perception. his point is the cops are calling back and saying hey, you don't want us. >> police leaders have declined it represents any organized work action or work slowdown. the president of the sergeants benevolent association says it's the police doubling up in work cars. but the real worry is there's a divide developing between the
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mayor's office, the police chief and the rank in file. >> it is commissioner bratton who is well liked and respected among the leaders. and if anybody can watch the trend lines, it is commissioner bratton. that's happening for those of them on the front lines of the street. and i'm going to take it a step further: it's going to be tough for bratton. i think he's fantastic. i think he has more experience than anybody to take on the job. but this divide now is so great. otherwise the stop now is do dramatic. i think somebody has to step in. i really do. >> would you say that was his smartest move becoming mayor and appointing commissioner bratton? >> absolutely. >> only smart move. >> this is no reflection on bill bratton.
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but i think we've got -- we're at a real. they're pulling back. you can say this isn't a work slowdown. >> one important thing to point out, the pullback is a great concern. but it's for parking and moving violations. tths for drinking in public. they're not not looking into murder ls. >> that's arrest summonses. >> that's the majority of what we're talking about of what is down. so they're not totally laying down on the job. in fact, they're just sort of ignoring, perhaps, minor offenses to make a statement. >> we all well know a young black man is treated differently than a young white man by police officers in most instances in the country. u but there's also another reality that for the last 20 years this city has had such a dramatic upswing in every way. it is a cleaner, it is a safer
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city. and we have to be careful we don't unwash this. >> i hear you completely. now to washington where the sun is rising on a new congress this morning. the most diverse one in history will be sworn in. both chambers are run by republicans for the first time since the bush administration. the house leadership is expected to stay intact with speaker john boehner expected to survive a vote this morning, despite grumbling from his right side. a recent flap over a meeting he may have attended involving a white supremacist organization in 2002 still has democrats trying to make political hay. >> there's no arguing that who republicans decide to elevate into a leadership position says a lot about who -- who the conference's priorities and value ls are. and i mean ultimately, mr. scalise reportedly described
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himself as david duke without the baggage. it will be up to republicans to decide what that says about their conference. >> let's start with julie pace. first, did the election change anything, because it seems the republicans still have problems? >> yeah, i mean the election changed something in that the republicans control congress but the election didn't solve the internal issues that the party has. in some ways you can see the more conservative wing of the party wanting to look for opportunities where they can actually pick fights with the leadership, which wants to move more to the middle be a bit more mainstream. and you're seeing that in this election for speaker. it seems like boehner is going to get through rather easily. but some members will vote against him. it's going to be done in a public way. not behind closed doors. and it's going to be a blemish and embarrassment for him. the question is whether this vote and a couple of issues over the next weeks will be enough for conservatives or whether this is something we're going to see them doing continuously throughout the year and whether this problem is going to persist
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for republicans. >> so casey, this 114th congress will be sworn in today. that's why you're up on capitol hill. republicans will have majority in both the house and the senate. what is item number one on the republican agenda? >> well willie on the senate side is the keystone pipeline. it's something they've been talking about for a long time. on the house side they're talking about messing with a 30-hour workweek provision of the health care law. they want to redefine it at 40 hours. they're already running into some policy issues republicans are, with the price of oil dropping, there's questions about whether they're going to continue with the oil exploration. that relates to the pipeline, and you're starting to see conservative backlash on the health care front. but to touch on what julie was saying, they are going to have to deal with sort of one political issue after another already straight out of the gate. i would also point out that this is also taking place in the context of 2016. we know that it's early but even as mish mcconnell said in an
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interview with the "washington post," this is about making his party not scary for the voters making a decision in 2016 about who to vote for for president. mcconnell will rang l several ambitious member of his oen caucus. senator ted cruz rand paul marco rubio, all potentially vying to be president. if you think about how cruz has operated, that could put pressure on the more established candidates in the the field. if you have cruz picking a big fight, that has implications for jeb bush. so to touch on the keystone issue, the white house seems like they're not going to push it on that. what's the strategy there? >> well all signs seem to be if a bill is passed that he would likely veto that. one, they simply don't feel like
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like congress is the right venue for the project. that this is something to be previewed by the case department. there's a course in nebraska about the pipeline. they want that to be resolved before they move forward on the project. there's a theory that given the president himself said keystone is not a big of a deal as a lot of people are making it out to be on both sides, that maybe he should sign a bill. it could get him good will with republicans. maybe it would anger some democrats. but not la lot of democrats actually support the keystone pipeline. there are some political benefits for the president were to change his mind and sign the keystone bill. >> and really quickly, there's drama to unseat john boehner. how serious is that? what does it symbolize? >> it symbolizes the same fight they've had for two years. at the end of the day, it doesn't seem speaker boehner is
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in any really danger of ludsing his seat because there's not a strong tempbt to speaker boehner. and major concerns at markets around the world after oil plunged around $50 a barrel. the dow dropping more than 300 points. stocks not the only issue. joining us now, market reporter for cnbc, dominic chu. what's going on here? >> we're talking about an issue around the world with whether or not the markets are sustainable at current levels. oil is one huge concern for traders out there. if oil prices continue to fall it's going to weigh on the oil companies in terms of earnings. so that will be a huge headwind. another thing is greece and how it affects the rest of europe. whether or not greece exits the euro can provide commentary on
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whether or not the the euro zone or monetary union can stay cohesive. of course there are demonstrations all over europe with regard to what they are going to do about the situation there. germany is a specific point here for a lot of traders because germany is seen as the core of the european economy. right now angela merkel is trying to figure out whether they should step in and keep them together. this is all translating to losses that we're seeing at the beginning of the year. and it's a worry for traders. we haven't seen this here in the last few months. it reminds people there are downed markets to be head. >> cnbc's dominic chu. thanks. do we're talking about the vulnerability of the markets. let's talk about the vulnerability of the weather. this video uploaded to vine. this knocks a home right off its
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foundation. watch it there. and blocking the only road of this town. so the red cross opened an emergency shelter for about 200 residents that have been affected. the coast guard is on standby. we know it's rainy west but the arctic blast coming east should get everybody worried. >> the video is amazing with the mudslide on the hill. wasn't that heavy of a rain. it must have been leading up to that and about to give way over time. it wasn't that heavy of a rain event yesterday. a little over an inch of rain in washington state. it's really nothing to write home about. so let's talk about the snow and cold. washington, d.c. has been snowing for the last hour. you have roads that are snow covered. t we're looking at reagan national. and we should be okay at the airports today. visibility will be a little low. so maybe minor delays. but as far as the snow goes it will be light. it is fluffy and cold. it is sticking on the roads. so be careful out there this morning. we do have school delays in that region. and also you notice up towards
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baltimore, it's 19 degrees and snowing there. and a wider shoe view shows it snowed overnight. now some of the light snow will head for philadelphia and all of new jersey and eventually to new york. i'm not expecting a lot of snow in big cities. like new york possibly an inch. and we're almost finished with our snow in indianapolis and columbus. and as we track the next cold blast. the dangerous stuff is coming from canada. windchill warning from chicago and detroit. by the time we get to thursday this will be the coldest morning this winter. it will rival the coldest mornings of last winter.
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we could have negative windchills as far as atlanta. and as we head towards the weekend, it warms up a little but not a lot. still ahead on "morning joe." actress kirstie alley is moments away. do you have questions for her? you had one in the 6:00 hour. >> oh. >> you want to know if she's single l. >> a beautiful woman. very accomplished. i'm an eligible bachelor. >> do i invite him to stay? i don't know. it's going to be awkward. you know there there be an awkward moment. so now, tweet me for questions we have for our next guest. obamacare, outrage in the halls of harvard. i'll tell you why next. we come by almost every day to deliver your mail
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time to look at the morning papers, jen. i'm here. is that okay with you? so sorry. >> mika was first.
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>> she was first. >> she's the backbone of this operation. >> wow. that was a little sarcastic. the wall street journal. the son of hedge fund manager thomas gilbert was charged with murdering his father. thomas gilbert jr. was taken into police custody a few hours after his father was found with a gunshot wound to the head. it is believed gilbert was having financial problems. law enforcement says gilbert suggested cutting his weekly allowance from $600 to $400. attorneys for the son had no comment. that's a terrible story. an avalanche in austria had tragic results for the u.s. ski team. 20-year-old 20-year-oldand 19-year-old were among six athletes training when an avalanche occurred. both were killed while four others were able to ski to safety. the president of the u.s. ski
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and snowboard association remember the late athletes by saying, quote, ronnie and bryce were both outstanding ski racers who were passionate about their sport, both on the course and skiing the mountain. both of them loved what they did and conveyed that to those around them. "the new york times" harvard professors. many of whom advise the obama administration on health care are in a, quote, uproar or having to pay more coverage. the increases are still taking effect. >> is this a gruber situation? >> well one classics professor calls it deplorable mpltsz deeply regressive and a sign of the university. the school's president noted edd the stress and anxiety on campus but says the changes were necessary. and a record breaking box office year in 2014 on broadway. the industry experienced the
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best attended and highest grossing year in history. attendance increased 14%. i'm going to give credit to one jordan roth. right? >> yes. >> he's awesome. that's great nudes on broadway. >> see a show. it's fun. tennis star serena williams took an unusual break during a match yesterday. after falling behind during her first set, williams asked if she could have a shot of espresso to wake her up. she's wiped out the first set. she said can i take a break? she confers with officials to find out if it was okay williams allowed to take a pick me up shot on the sideline. that's an espresso before continuing on with the match. it seemed to help. williams went onto win. >> what do i say, daniella are you here? when i come in the morning. i cannot do anything i
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understand it. >> it was 111 degrees on the court. >> and then off an espresso shot? >> she came back. >> up next she said she wanted to lose 30 pounds and she blew that number away. actress kirstie alley reveals the secrets behind her amazing transformation next. if you have a question. tweet them to me @morningmika. lots of questions coming in already. we'll get to them. as the velocity of change in the world increases new players in new markets face a choice: do it fast and cheap. or do it right. for almost 90 years, we've stayed true to the belief
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right here. all right. you're so inappropriate. >> in case anybody doesn't really know what i do off camera. i'm lint boy. >> welcome back to "morning joe." joining us now, golden globe and emmy award winning actress kirstie alley joins us. donny is embarrassing me in front of you. it's so nice to meet you. thank you for comening on. >> thank you. >> everybody is here like oh my god, kirstie alley. then you made a presidential announcement yesterday. >> i did. >> what is that? >> well we should all do a better job, right? >> what's your platform kirstie? >> solutions, not problems. >> that would be a start in
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washington. so we have twitter questions pouring in for you. >> babe. have a huge crush on you. >> i really is. >> no i have. >> don't do that. >> oh no. >> i saw you once at lunch at i don't know barney's or something like that. i was like he's so handsome. but i didn't want to wave. >> and i saw you, and i was like i don't want to be a cheeseball and go over. >> kirstie, have you met lewis? >> hi, lewis. he's polite and won't hit on you. >> why? >> i would. i have a fiancee. >> i'm single. >> donny, can we get through this. >> we both have kids. >> that's right. we have kids. they're grown-up. we can ditch them. >> i see a date in the future. >> one more hit on kirstie alley. >> we're talking about our children. >> we're going to bring them in just in case. tag team out. so we're going to have the ceo of jenny craig and curve's, same
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person, next block to talk about what's going on with them and what hay do to help women especially deal with issues. and the first story is very related. a new study suggests women whose friends and partners are accepting of their size lose more weight than those whose loved ones are critical. >> shocking. >> well when you think about it. the study showed women who heard words of encouragement or acceptance about their size maintained or lost weight while women whose friends and families criticized them or were concerned about their weight tended to gain more of it. it makes total sense. it is a mind game. >> first of all, it's your own journey. it's like if someone tells you to quit smoking. you're going to smoke more. and the people critical of you, i'm suspect of. >> i am too. but i also think it's one of the hardest things you can do in life, to try to lose a lot of weight. given the american diet. i think the kind of how
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addictive salt sugar and fat, we've discovered can be. and how deeply personal it is. how much it hurts. to not be support it. forget it. that will put you over the edge will it not? >> well i've gone over the edge for many reasons. that could be one of them. >> let's talk about the others. >> i think the hardest hinge in the world is to figure out how and why you gained weight in the first place. i ate massive amounts of food my whole life. i was athletic. i could just eat a lot of food. then when i turned like 53 it was all over. game over. and i was like what? why is this happening to me? i was basically eating the same amounts of food. you can't eat the same amount of food. >> what about being a celebrity? did that play into it add pressure, hurt more? >> no i think it was just dumber. as an actress, one of your
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requirements is to stay in shape. i mean i think that's actually an actress' responsibility. >> would be a pressure thing. >> it's sort of a pressure but i just take full responsibility for it. i remember the first time i gained weight. and i had broken up with this guy. i was just like screw you. i'm going to find a man who loves me for me and not for my body. they don't exist. and then i started acting like donna reid you know. i started cooking pies and cakes. and i'm obsessed with cake plaitsplait plates and things like that. >> stop falling in love. >> i am in love. i work out a lot. i gained 50 pounds once in my life. literally you would not recognize me. i had a bad marriage it ended, and for me the irony of eating is like screw it. nothing else is making me happy.
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i'm going to make myself happy by eating. but it makes you less happy. >> then you get unhappy again. it is sort of like a drug. >> sit next to her. it's happening. >> you don't want to get in the way of this thick that's happening. but it's really true. by the other way. >> go ahead, lean in. i don't know why we celebrate the stick thin -- guys like curves. not to get into it. >> please stop this. >> i don't know why. most men feel the way i do. the ideal put out by advertisers and the media as far as kate moss, nobody likes that. >> i wonder who in your life has been that constant support for you in your weight loss. >> you. >> well, mostly me but my kids. this time i did it a little differently. i lost the weight with jenny craig. and i'm the spokesperson. >> took you long enough to get
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that in there from a marketing side. but honestly i think it's important there's celebrity spokespeople. if a world where everything is photo shopped. there's a lot of plastic surgery and falseness, i think i am a real example of what women are going through. and you know when you age, your body changes. and you got to get with it or you have to do something to counter it you know. and i think it's important that people have examples who are celebrities, who have the same struggle that they have. otherwise it looks like what is wrong with me? is something terribly wrong with me when all these other actresses can stay pencil thin. well it's not true. and the men always gain 60 pounds for a movie. why did you do this? >> i needed to gain weight for
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raging bull ii. it's not such a critical thing with men. >> just with weight loss and everything else. at the the end of the day, isn't it about you got to eat less and exercise more? >> but i think -- with me -- what i was saying earlier was from the time i was probably born until i was about 53 years old, i ate tons of food. and i would just -- >> it's an adjustment. >> and it was like what? the party is over. and that was weird for me. >> personal question. >> oh my god. >> this is a very genuine question. don't you feel more comfortable about your body now than you ever have? sexually every way? this is very germane to what we're talking about. you don't let me go to a serious place. this is very serious. >> okay, go serious. >> don't you feel more comfortable in your body now. i mean it's beautiful. versus when you were 23 and young and blah blah blah.
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i'm seeing that with women. the irony of this. they're trying so hard to keep their bodies young, that as you age and so many other ways you're more comfortable about yourself and your body. >> well i don't give a -- i can't say the word. i think there's a truth that -- i think it's important people have the body they want. that's the most important thing. i meet women who weigh 30 pounds more than me. they act sexy and they're gorgeous. i'm not that girl. i like getting up in the morning and throwing something on enand not worrying about what i look like. i like the attention off my body. i also don't give a hoot so much anymore. >> we were talking about men and women and the difference for men as opposeded to women. oscar winning actor russell crowe is getting criticism for something that he said.
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it was comments he made to an australian magazine about female actresses and age appropriate roles. crowe told australian women's weekly recently the best thing about the industry i'm in is there are roles for people in all different stages of life. to be honest i think you'll find the woman saying the roles have dried up is the woman who at 40 45 48 still wants to play the ingenue and can't understand why she's being cast as the 21-year-old. if you're trying to pretend that you're still the young buck when you're my age it just doesn't work. >> i can agree with him. i was never an ingenue. i didn't start acting until i was 30. i was banging down cocaine in kansas. there was no ingenue. >> she's honest. but gothca on that. i think people took offense to it. >> i don't know why, though. i think it's true.
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i don't like it -- for me personally. it doesn't matter if you're an actress. when women try and look like they're 20 when they're 50 i don't get it. >> i don't get it either. >> i think women can be beautiful at all stages. and i also agree. i don't agree there's a million roles out there. >> they dry up. there's not as many. but also kirstie, i don't know a 50-year-old smart woman who wants to be the ingenue. >> if you look at the harrison fords of the world, he's not playing young swashbuckler. i kind of agree to him. you have to embrace wherever you are. if you're arnold schwarzenegger now, maybe you get a great character role. you're not an action hero anymore. that's the reality. >> but my favorite movies that come down the the pike they
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sort of are the dilemmas. i think the most interesting things in life where the slim dilemmas of life. it's not the successes. it's the embarrassments. i just saw 100-foot journey. i love it when someone is portraying a real role. but i do see a lot of women who have to get hella loads of plastic surgery. and they don't look younger. >> they look worse. >> they look plasticy. >> donny deutsch, i'm going to ask you to leave. >> that's it? >> you're jealous. just admit it. >> you hit on the guest. >> she hit on me first. >> i wasn't hitting. i do think he's very handsome. >> and you're beautiful. >> he's very handsome. >> you're beautiful. what is wrong with that?
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>> we have more on jenny craig and curves coming up. are you looking to find the perfect guy, kirstie? where you can find 50 all in the same place. we'll be right back.
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50-pound weight loss. joining us is now is the president and ceo of curves. 50 pounds in how long? >> it was a little bit under nine months i think. >> is that okay? >> that is absolutely the right way to do it. that's the right amount of weight to lose over that period. if you lose faster you have issues. we want you to lose it in a steady way. >> kirstie doesn't hold back in what she says. wait until you hear what she says when thomas asks about skin. but are you -- were you at all concerned about having her as the spokesperson, because she shoots from the hip and says what she thinks or is that exactly what you're looking for? >> she's a fantastic spokesperson. we need people to bring attention to this challenge wf in the yids with people being overweight. i think kirstie's challenge is as she mentioned earlier it's real. people can relate to that. the other thing cool about kirstie is what she has done her journey on jenny craig has
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been how every other member goes through it. >> a personal crisis and a national issue as well. tom has questions for kirstie, and we've got twitter questions rolling in and look. sorry, kirstie, but he's back. >> i brought donny over here. it's a safe zone. >> i told you to go. but okay. >> want to show chest hair and get you going. >> kirstie, with losing weight a lot of people experience skin issues. so our viewers will be curious how you're doing with that? >> i have sex in spanx. >> that's clinically impossible. >> no it so isn't. >> don't spanx go up. >> but i have access. they have access down there. >> this is what i'm talking about. >> are you concerned about that? >> well when you lose weight at a certain pace which this was, you know a safe pace you -- and you're working out, it tends to have some elasticity. it snaps back.
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>> lets move away from this. >> ryan wants to know what your favorite episode of "cheers" was. >> my favorite episode of "cheers." oh lord. for me or others? for me my favorite is when i got to be drunk and sing i think a righteous brothers song. just because i like playing drunk. >> do you miss those guys? do you miss the cast? >> i see them relatively often. but i miss that show because it was like summer camp. it was like to other job. >> you could feel it on the air. part of the reason brilliant writing and acting. you could feel how much fun they were having. >> we were having more fun than we were having work. and we really were irresponsible people. but it worked somehow. >> someone tweeted me you are drop dead gorgeous ii. >> i want to do it on broadway. should i not say that? >> it was the role that introduced amy adams to film work. >> every once in a while you'll
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immediate something and just know. i knew the second that i met her that she was -- she's so beautiful. she looks like ann margaret. and she's talented. >> this was like a documentary of beauty pageants. >> it became a cult classic in colleges. >> twitter question. we want to know the biggest challenge you had to overcome in your life. >> the biggest challenge i've had to overcome in my life. >> that's the dumbest question in the world. >> that's a tough one. >> it's not tough. i think the biggest challenge i've had to overcome. i was very -- when i lived in kansas. i was very self conscious and i was very introverted. you know, i always wanteded to be an actress, but i thought there was no hope because i was from kansas. so i guess the things i did like drugs to overcome my own insecurities. to get out of kansas was the
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hardest thing. >> just click your heels. >> i would have but i really needed to get out of there. because i was around not a good environment. and i just needed to go out into the world. >> get away from kansas to l.a. >> i get out of kansas and stop doing drugs. i just needed to go away. >> i love how genuine and completely from the heart your answers are to every freaking question and all of us characters here. so will you stay with us? we have another segment. the bachelors are coming. month monty, thank you very much. >> shoulders back. the bachelors are coming. award winning actor, son of a former president and a president himself. we look at town and country's list of the world's most -- >> i don't think donny made the list. i don't think anybody over 40. >> time to go. >> town and country.
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>> i didn't say that. >> they overlooked you. >> i'm going to try to read this in my morning show circa 1986 voice. i can't even do it. looking to find the perfect guy? you can now. you can fine 50 of most eligible. what does eligible mean jay? >> it means you may have a 0.001% chance. >> men in the issue of town & count country? are you going to do women? >> yes. we do women in august. >> okay. then we can do the segment. but you have to talk to donny. you insulted him twice. first you didn't put him in it. >> one over the age of 40 by the way. >> seriously. kirstie, poor donny today. i am going to ask you to give him a hug. not right now. >> but how did you?
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>> what are the qualifications? >> it's very extreme. >> and scientific. >> this is a list long done by "town & country." it was let go for a number of years. when i discovered in 1968 they did a thing on a former -- a president running at the time his son who later became the republican who ran last time. i think you know him, mitt romney, right. it give me an idea this is a magazine that put bright lights on the future. the guys who seem to have everything. not just the looks but the intelligence, the charm. >> all right. so thomas and lewis, take us through. >> there are a lot of 20-year-olds on here. number one, being a 29-year-old. stavros niarkos. i'm not sure what our numbering means, i want to be coy about that. he's certainly somebody out there and people are very interested in him.
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you know -- >> isn't that a guy that date paris hilton. >> when he first came in here he ran into a hilton and didn't know what to do. i think he's redeemed himself. he's a very interesting guy who is going to inherit probably one of the most important art collections in the the world among various other things. >> looks straight out of international playboy central casting. >> okay. >> >> shouldn't anybody who is like an heir be thrown off this? these are trust fund idiots. >> i think the lucky sperm club is a factor we don't want to simply grant them entry based on that. >> how about robert kennedy iii. >> i think they have legitimate reasons for being on it. jack schlossberg -- >> these are babies. >> he introduced obama at the medal of freedom dinner. he's about to graduate from yale. as we know you know the
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politics is about being younger and younger. >> are they had working men? i don't think women find men attractive unless they're hard working men. >> you're darn right. >> oscar deserves to be on this list. >> is he self made. >> are they self made? >> yeah but he's in the category that says girls, watch out. yes. many self-made guys. >> it's our job to notice the ones who come from a lineage when they do something remarkable. we don't want to put our finger on somebody who has only got the genes. i agree with you. >> it's a great magazine. always love it. and where kirstie is touching on i think the new elitists are the people who have done it. not just have a last name. that's old. >> that's yesterday. >> i agree. you put your fingers on the guys who have the genes.
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but there's many other people on there. >> who are the ones who have done it that are interesting and on there? >> is this a pop quiz? >> it's a talk show. we have to ask the hard questions. >> one of the very first guys associated with google. . the hand pick choice to become the ceo of yahoo by marissa meyer. >> then we like him. >> okay. >> who would you pick out for kirstie alley? >> i think there's something about -- isn't there something -- >> she would squash these guys. there would be nothing left. >> you know how french women can't get -- spend some time in france. >> he needs good advice with a solid woman next to him. >> what kind of guys do dough you like? you like sports guys? >> i like smart guys who are funny and guys who are self f
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made. i like hard working guys. >> jay, i'm not sure whether to thank you. >> i feel sorry for you. you had a whole peanut gallery. >> it was good. it needs to be tested this list. >> donny will get the final vote. >> i am thinking. kirstie, thank you so much. good luck. >> thank very very much. >> that's it for "morning joe." donny, kirstie, good luck. >> it's a love connection. we come by almost every day to deliver your mail so if you have any packages you want to return you should just give them to us i mean, we're going to be there anyway why don't you just leave it for us to pick up? or you could always get in your car and take it back yourself yeah, us picking it up is probably your easiest option it's kind of a no brainer
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