world will never give in to the intimidation and the terror. >> there have been a huge number of french citizens that have gone to fight for isis. >> is this our future? >> these terrorists, freedom of the speech and press. >> they may wield weapons. we share a commitment to a pen that represents an instrument of freedom. we are awaiting remarks from president obama, who will be speaking in detroit any moment now. first, as vigils are held across the world, three masked gunmen remain at-large after killing 12 at the offices of a weekly french newspaper. at about 11:30 a.m. paris time two of the men armed with ak-47s forces their way into an office and fired at staff in an editorial meeting. this lasted several minutes before the attackers fled by car killing a police officer.

they include the editorial director of the publication, a coor tune car tuneist and a staffer and contributor. the staffer said they spoke french perfectly and claimed to be from al qaeda. they have no confirmation as to who is responsible. moments ago, president obama spoke to french president, fran francois hollande. he said he would deal with the perpetrators severely. hours early, president obama delivered unplanned remarks from the oval office. >> i thought it was appropriate to express my deepest sympathies to the people of paris, the people of france for the terrible terrorist attack.

for us to see the kind of cowardly, evil attacks that took place today. this is why it is so important to stand in solidarity with them as they do with us. >> this is not the first attack on the french news pair. in 2011 it's offices were badly damaged by a fire bomb after the paper published a spoof issue mocking the prophet mohammed and the islamist party in tunisia. moments before today's attack they tweeted a sat tear cal cartoon wishing a happy new year to the leader of isis. in 2012 shar bonn yea defended his paper's choices. our job is not to defend freedom of speech but without freedom of speech, we are dead. i would prefer to die than to live like a rat. joining me from paris is kasondra vinegrad.

>> reporter: a massive manhunt is going on following the attack on the left wing sat tear cal magazine. first, they killed a maintenance worker and headed upstairs to an editorial meeting where they gunned down 10 people including 8 journalists, a guest of the magazine and a security guard there to protest the guests. as the gunmen were fledding they is shout the "god is great" in arabic. they were engaged, the police with the firing. one of the attackers executed the police officer on the sidewalk. french president said this is undoubtedly a terror attack. he has called for a national day of mourning. flags to be lowered to half-mast can. to hunt down the perpetrators and ensure they are severely punished. barack obama condemned the

attack and set the u.s. will pledge any assistance necessary to help france one of its oldest and strongest allies. they believe three suspects are still on the run. since fleeing the scene of shar lee ab doe, they are stepping up security at key public places, including malls, media offices and tourist attractions around the country. >> joining us evan and michael. in terms of who may be responsible for this attack we know from that eyewitness they claim to be from al qaeda. your group has said that they are sort of sources on twitter saying this is from islamic state. which do you think it is? >> it doesn't have to be one or the other. let's forget that the pakistani state-supported terrorist group tried engineering an attack

similar to this using an american national just a few years ago. it doesn't have to be isis a.q. or something else. it could be lone wolves. that's what we have seen. we have seen a lot of lone wolves targeting these particular targets, the cartoonists and those responsible for publishing them. here in the united states we had two individuals that were prosecuted and convicted by the u.s. justice department for threatening max stone and trey parker for putting mohammed in a bear suit in their south park cartoon. this is something that's not just in europe. it is here too. it is long standing. >> let me ask you. because so much attention has been paid to ias and if this does prove to be terrorists from al qaeda affiliated with aqap does this mark a resurgence of al qaeda if it is at trikttributed to them? >> if this is al qaeda, is this

trying to gain back the momentum they have lost to isis? showing people we are still around, we are still relevant. we can still do things and try to rally back that large constituency they have lost to isis. it is also a question if these people are supportive of isis or if they are affiliated with isis, why would they identify themselves with al qaeda? >> isis hates al qaeda. it has become very very very brutal in terms of what they say about each other. isis is not going to call themselves al qaeda. they would never call themselves isis. if this is correct, if this report is correct, who exactly are we dealing with? >> stephon charboneau was known to be that. >> he was named as a target. >> not to take away from that. there is no doubt they will be looking at that connection right now. it is important to understand the head of isis put a bounty of

millions of dollars on the head of the cartoonist responsible for creating these cartoons. both al qaeda and isis have expressed an intent to go after these folks. if this is al qaeda or isis why on such a small scale. the same thing with isis. they want to show they are bigger and badder than al qaeda. this doesn't really do that. this seems to fit more in the pattern we are seeing across europe particularly in france of individuals that have been trained in syria by isis by al qaeda, by some other jihadist group who come home who come back to the country of origin and decided their mission is not over. they start trying to continue on

their own home soil. it is not clear they are operating under orders and guidance and instruction from anyone, other than what's in their own heads. >> as this unfolded this morning, josh earnest, the white house president secretary was on "morning joe." we still don't know if these were isis affiliated fighters. do you think this given what has happened the alarm among the french public and certainly the international community, do you think this has a tangible effect in terms of coalition building and partnerships in the battle against terror globally? >> absolutely. i would say that you can't discount the role of not only the evaluation of the threat on the part of policymakers but public opinion when it comes to how decisions are made about what steps we take inviting

terrorists and how vigorously we are going to go after isis in iraq and syria. we don't know this is isis. let's say that connection is established. i would remind you of what happened when isis started beheading americans in late summer. you saw public opinions soar and you saw the campaign begin in earnest extending to syria. i think that was possible because there was a kind of visceral emotional repulsion against what the group was doing. these terror attacks are horrible. they inflict a certain kind of damage on our society. at the same time, they do provoke a real response a combination of a sense that the threat is greater, obviously. also the public rallies, public opinion pressures political leaders. you see stronger steps taken. you have to be careful, though because these terrorist groups sometimes welcome a response. in fact, part of bin laden's

philosophy was a major attack on the united states would cause us to overextend ourselves and get bogged down in afghanistan and bleed our treasury and bring america down. you have to calibrate your response properly. there is no question it will have an effect. >> do you think it has an effect in germany where the german public, certain sectors of the far right german political sphere have become very radicalized and very anti-islamist in recent weeks and months. just this week there was a huge protest with a group calling themselves patriotic germans. does this affect merkel in some way? >> absolutely. you have seen in the context of real economic hardship anyone who follows politics and societies will know brings out, can bring out very ugly impulses

where people are looking for scapegoats looking to blame outsiders, particularly foreigners and minorities are often scapegoated first. you are seeing that throughout europe and in germany. not just this event but many like it. there were other attacks that appeared to be sort of lone wolf radical inspired attacks elsewhere. i think that is fodder for these groups who have long been preaching this message they are coming to get us. they are overrunning our societies. we are not safe in our homes. among the many reasons this is terrible for the overwhelming majority. probably 99% of muslims in europe. this is going to make their lives harder because there will be a backlash against them from these radicals and from people that might not be totally rad cam and zenophobic, but are starting to get that message. >> in terms of apprehending

these guys they seem to be better trained than other lone wolf attacks like the ones we saw in australia and canada. does that increase the likelihood they will be caught. there does not seem to be any tangible lead that the news media has been alerted to. do you think the french is likely to get them? >> they are wearing masks and gloves and taking care to try to conceal their identities. with the amount of closed-circuit cameras and what they can do with mobile phones and devices, there is reason to believe they can find these folks. will they definitely find them how soon will it be? i don't think anyone has any idea. france has a historical problem with islamaphobia. we don't need to see a flourishing of that. that's going to create the exact conditions for something more like this to happen.

we need to make sure that french muslims don't see themselves as the enemy of society because then people start heading to syria. it's important not to have that negative reaction. that will exactly undo what we are trying to achieve. >> we are going to talk more specifically about france's relationship to islam. evan kohlman, thank you for your time. michael crowley, hang with me. when we come back from the break, we will look at other attacks and thousands rallied across europe tonight in solidarity. they are holding their pens in the air. we will discuss the implications for free speech following today's attack all just ahead. two boyfriends. three jobs. you're like "nothing can replace brad!" then liberty mutual calls. and you break into your happy dance. if you sign up for better car replacement, we'll pay for a car that's a model

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frarngs trance hasfrance has raised its terror attack to the highest threat. last month, france stepped up its security after dozens were injured by men shouting islamic rally and cry in cities across the country. last month, a 16-hour hostage siege left two dead. in canada two attacks over the course of three days in october. a hit and run crash that killed canadian soldier and an attack on a national war memorial left that nation reeling. although the risks posed by islamic militancy are real and thousands are thought to have joined islamic state. a reactionary zenaphobia. the far right in france, anti-muslim national front has been steadily gaining strength.

this week 18,000 anti-immigrant protesters took to the streets to demonstrate against the large influx of refugees from the middle east and africa and what they see as a threat to german institutions. angeal merkel used her new year's speech to urge germans to stay away from those protests. michael crowley is back with me and zainab is joining me. you began talking about how deeply distressing the situation is for people around the globe. if you had to advise president hollande without further alienating its muslim population what would you be saying? >> i would explain the situation. this is an implosion within islam. this is not an us and them situation.

families no longer know what their kids are going to do. the doubt and fear is happening within the family structure. parents versus sons and daughters, neighbors, community. >> i don't think people know that. >> people are scared particularly in the middle east. what is islam? there is self-doubt and assessment and fear within their selves about their religion. now, when something like that happens and the society you are living in say france sees it from outside, there is further an alienation of those who are not fundamentalists. >> they are exacerbating an already distressing problem. >> it is part of this discussion. so we do need to actually create more spaces for moderates and to pick on the wrong things. there are a lot of things to criticize, fundamentalism treatment of women, but pick on

mohammed the prophet, something sensitive for all muslims. it is about a value that is engrained in islamb do not idealize the individual. that's why they do not allow showing the face. you should not idealize the individual but put all your love and dedication to god. there is a value in it. this is not about freedom of speech. this is a value which has merit and almost all muslims believe in that. why pick on the least interesting one? why don't you pick on -- why can't the west actually this is my appeal to hollande, pick on the things that can have constructive feedback and progress towards islam. we need to engage in productive conversations. we do. it is needed. we need it as muslims. let's not distract by doing these things that are not relevant to the freedom of speech. >> is it your sense for the folks in the middle east that

some corners were there. there is a discrepancy against what the father believes and what the son believes. the behavior of the far radical right in places like germany and france, that has a real effect on the family table conversations happening in the middle east. >> the families are scared for themselves. in other words what isis n.what they have capped into. the west has failed us. they promised to help us with democracy and economic progress they have failed us. our own leadership have failed us, which is true. now, we are going to take control. we are going to return our own people to a golden era of islam, which all of us in the middle east studied the same history. once upon a time we had a golden era where we were progressive and dominant. they are tapping on emotional psychology that every muslim grew up with. when you have youth in the region 60% of the region is

under the age of 30 they are university graduates and they are unemployed and the governments do not have jobs for them. >> economics is a huge part of this in europe. when we look at pew ten andutin and the rising, how can you think they will control zenaphobia? >> it is a familiar and unfortunate story when economies are struggling and people are struggling they look for scapegoats and single out foreign foreigners and minorities. >> i have to interrupt you. president obama is speaking inside of detroit. let's listen. >> we have got detroit mayor, mike duggan here. senator gary peters is in the

house. congresswoman debbie dingle is here. you're outstanding ceo, mark fields is here. now, i have to say i love secret service and the beasts that they put me in. that's what we call the cars that i drive in the beast. i like my ride these days. it was made in michigan too. i just had a chance to look at these new mustangs and i have to say the mustangs have a little more style, a little more flavor. bill ford is in the house. surprisingly enough, we talked a little bit about sunday.

listen i'm a bears fan. you beat us twice, but even a bears fan has to admit that that was a little suspect. i have never seen anything like that before. i would have been pretty irritated. were you irritated? oh, yeah. all i can say, because i'm used to saying this on bearspan, there is always next year. >> that was president obama speaking at a ford assembly plant outside detroit. the president, of course, made comments on the situation in paris earlier today. michael crowley is back with me now. with us is the author and founder of women for women

international, zainab salbi. we had to dip in and out to see if the president was going to make any comments. he clearly felt like he was on the record this morning. to the question of europe the distressed european economy, the rise of folks like vladmir putin and the continued stranglehold on power of people like vladmir putin, containing zenophobia and cushing the worst in anti-immigrant impulses. your thoughts? how possible is that? >> it is going to be really hard. as i was saying before the break, the stagnation that europe has been enduring makes it much harder. when economies are growing and people feel like they are making progress and they have money and they don't scapegoat as much. they don't look for people to blame for their unhappiness but europe is in really rough shape right now. the future doesn't look bright. for instance, you are seeing in germany, angela merkel recently

pleaded with the public not to attend large, sort of anti-immigrant heavily anti-must lick anti-muslim demonstrations around the country. there was one demonstration attended by as many as 18,000 people in dresden. they are upset about immigration policies. they are saying their culture is under threat. it is not easy to control that. one of the best ways to do it is to have economic health. to make people feel it is less than a zero gain. these people are coming to take my jobs and they are pushing down wages. it is a big problem. in washington you have a real push to try to promote a message of counter extremism to try to going back to this question of what is islam, to promote a more

peaceful, inclusion of islam. on both sides, there is a lot of hard work to be done. in the near term i'm not terribly optimistic that leaders in the u.s. and europe have their armsz around it. >> foreign policy magazine pointed out a statistic that too rarely gets mentioned. between 82% and 97% of all victims of terrorism were muslims. the west has this conception that the victims are overwhelmingly western or christian. they are muslim. almost 97% in some years. how does the muslim world sort of better tell that story? >> i don't know how to tell it better. that's the story. that's what i mean earlier, the implosion. these muslims that are being killed are supposedly the moderate muslims. it is someone like me. we have new standards for the

religion that is alien to all of us. if you don't pray like this if you don't do this we are all like, what's going on? you don't know. your enemy is within. do you see what i mean? >> do you sense that there is a battle going on inside islam right now? >> absolutely. >> what more do moderate muslims need to battle the extremists? >> this is the new language you are seeing emerging in the middle east. leaders are talking about reconciliation and forgiveness. this language that's been adopted in south africa or in american for the civil rights movement and all of these things, this is the language and the ideology that needs to be promoted in the middle east. you see them just starting the articulation of it. we all need to embrace it and give and make the alternative, the positive alternative, much more exciting than the terrorism. right now, we are competing for our youth basically and isis is getting more of an appeal with

the youth. >> the moderate side needs to step up speak up and articulate its voice in a much better way. it has been afraid. do i protect what i have or do i step up and try to articulate a new voice? this is an identity crisis within islam in my opinion. >> michael, let me ask you. the rift between isis and all qaeda, this administration has focused a lot on i.s. the president has talked about ending the war in iraq and afghanistan. if this is proven to be terrorists affiliated with al qaeda and the arabian peninsula, how does that change this administration's calculus or its rhetoric as far as certain parts of the war on terror being finished? >> i think it will renew our focus on al qaeda and within the administration, they have not let their guard down. the media has focused on isis because it is new and doing

shocking, horrible visible things. i think that aqap this al qaeda branch in yemen has posed greater threat to american security. they are trying to take down planes and have sophisticated bombmakers. >> michael crowley and zainab salbi, thank you for your time and thoughts demonstrators declared they are not afraid following a morning of terror. we will look at what is being called an attack on free speech. stay with us. campbell's healthy request soup lets you hear it in your heart. [ basketball bouncing ] heart healthy. great taste. [ m'm... ] [ tapping ] sounds good. campbell's healthy request. m'm! m'm! good.® curling up in bed with a favorite book is nice. but i think women would rather curl up with their favorite man. but here's the thing: about half of men over 40 have some degree of erectile dysfunction. well, viagra helps guys with ed get and keep an erection. and remember, you only take it when you need it.

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the freedom of express that this magazine no matter what your feelings were about it the freedom of expression that it represented is not able to be killed by this kind of act of terror. today's murderous attack on the weekly newspaper, charlie

hebdo and ten staff members were killed, including the editorial. no barbaric act will ever stifle the freedom of the press proclaimed president francois hollande. most american news outlets, including this network, have chosen not to show the cartoons that may have given rise to the attack. a tacit acknowledgment that doing so raises security concerns. charlie hebdo seems to embrace those risks. a year later, the magazine's decision to publish more inflam tore drawings prompting more warning from the french government. is it really sense i believe or intelligent to pour fuel on the fire? the white house also questioned the choice. >> we have questions about the judgment of publishing something

like this. we don't question the right of something like this to be published. we just question the judgment behind the decision to publish it. >> back in 2006, a decision by most of the american media not to public a danish magazine of the profit mohammed drew scorn from the late christopher hitchens. >> in a media totally dominated by images it was not considered appropriate to tell the american public, here is a story that's all about the fight over some pictures. we are not going to show you what the pictures are. >> joining me now is rick macarthur, publisher of harper's magazine one of the very few media outlets to publish danish cartoons of the prophet mohammed. rick, let me start with you first. you made that decision eight years ago. would you decided to to publishing charlie hebdo's

images. >> in the context of eight years ago was to ask art smeegleman of the holocaust and auschwitz, to review the images like an art critic, a cartoon critic. within the essay, he included other caricatures, including anti-semitic cartoons. there was a contest sponsored in iraq and israel of anti-semitic characters. he also reviewed. he thought they were dull. he was very disappointed by the danish cartoons in his review. what he said very clearly and very forcefully, and which i agree with today was, i believe that open discourse, ultimately serves understanding. repressing images gives him too much power. it is not going to help the situation. it is only going to make it worse. i agree with that.

>> the question of repression is one of the main paths of discussions for this. the other is security which is we are going to put this up. the a.p. had images up. they have since been taken down. the security of the news staff in light of something like this. where do you stand on those twin issues? >> this happens all the time where you see the mainstream media not only shying away from anything it thinks is controversial or risky or dangerous in this case. you also see as in the jay carney statements. you saw other papers questioning the judgment, quote, unquote, of charlie hebdo publishing those things. you can. you have the right to but, really, should you? it is sort of it indirectly puts the blame back on the victim. it says you asked for this. you brought this on in some way. that's really i think, dangerous. >> it also if i could just add, it enhances and amplifies the power of a minority of muslims.

these care acicatures to react this way, run scared, reinforces the power of islamists who don't represent the majority of muslims. most muslims are more tolerant than the people that killed the people at charlie hebdo today. they disapprove of this kind of violence. in a reverse sort of way, it amplifies their power by backing off. it caricatures other muslims that do not agree with them. >> it feels to me that a lot of folks, specially in the media, have an easy time why repressing these images is not a good idea. there is ai whole intellectual argument about freedom of speech and so far. you look at terry jones and the burning of the karan.

there was an underpinning of certain values when he decided to burn the koran. this becomes incredibly distasteful and a terrible idea. are they not just reverse sides of the same coin. >> the problem with freedom of speech and freedom of the press, the test case is when you find it deeply offensive. when you find it to disturb you at the most basic level, whether it is blasthemy. is it okay for people to have the right even though it disturbs us so deeply. >> for a lot of people it was when the nazis were permitted to march in skokie illinois, the home of a lot of holocaust survivors. people stood up for the principle of freedom of express and speech precisely, because, in this extreme case you had to

defend it as a matter of principle. >> when it pushes the elasticity as far as it will go. >> what is interesting to me. it is easy to see how the extremists object to this. what's interesting to see is how more mainstream centrists positions say, for practical reasons, you shouldn't do it the judgment call as i'm saying. that essentially is making the same point. we agree with your right to say it but really you shouldn't. it is another form of censorship, a form of self-censorship that takes us in the same direction. >> i would also say there is to some degree safety in numbers. if every american news and global media outlet published these cartoons it would almost neutralize the threat to the sort of judgment call that would have to be made. >> we are stronger the three of us together than we are alone. that's something that i hope the "associated press" and every other news organization realizes by the end of the day, that we have to hang together in situations like this for safety and as a matter of principle

both. >> i think we also have to remember this isn't just islamic extremism, if you go back to where jerry falwell was portrayed as having drunken incest with his mother in a courthouse and won a $150,000 court case. it was overturned by the supreme court, 8-0. religious fundamentalists of all stripes and nationalities have this pension to be able to say, we want to tell you what you can and can't portray. >> islam is because of the age of terror in which we live is a third reel which you can show blass blasphemous photos. he was an equal slanderer or whatever you want to call it. we focus on islam because it is much more incendiary to talk

about. >> it is because of a huge american troop presence in the middle east & insertion of american power that never existed before. this is a political and foreign policy question we could talk about. i want to keep the principle of freedom of expression separate. there is a sense that did didn't exist 20 years ago. >> and presence that shows little sign of abating. we have to leave it there. we could dedicate hours of programming to this. i'm sorry we have no more time in this segment. great to see you both eric bates and rick macarthur from "har per's." we will look at america's response just ahead. my car". all-wheel drive is amazing... i felt so secure. you can do it, emmie! ecoboost is when you can take a four

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isis was behind the attack on air force one. josh earnest said quote, we are very mindful of the threat from foreign fighters and the need to encounter some of the extremist ideology that isil is propagating. joining me sam stein and thrush. >> we have conflicting narratives about whether the terrorists are associated with isis or al qaeda. they have talked exclusively about isis or isil in the context. what do you think measurably the effect on the administrations sort of battle and fight to hold the coalition together on isis? >> well a lot of it is to be determined based on what information we can get about who is responsible for the attacks. my guess is that in some respects, it helps the administration with keeping their coalition coalesced around this fight against isis. certainly, you can imagine the

politicians in france much like in canada which experience their own attack in australia sort of being emboldened by this to go and commit more resources. whether that's represent uponry or troops and training to the effort. it is also important to keep in mind there is a thin line here. a big portion of it is to encourage modern muslims and a rab militaries to take over the majority of the fighting. if western countries end up committing themselves or overly committing themselves, it could have a discouraging effect to the modern muslims to step up. they could offload it on these western countries. the administration is walking a bit of a fine line and i think they will continue to do so. >> glen i wonder what you think is necessary, if anything is at all in terms of a recalibration, if this ends up being a terrorist attack related to al qaeda. this administration wants to

talk about al qaeda being neutralized. if the american public cease an attack that killed 12 people in paris attributed toal coup da how does that change the way the white house is framing the war on terror at present? >> i think that's a really good point. sam is completely right about the moderate muslims. i do think that really does change the dynamic. when you are looking at a republican controlled senate who has in general when you are looking at the new head of the armed services committee, john mccain, has been enormously critical over the administration's inability to commit more to boots on the ground. the paradox here really interesting, when we were looking at these dynamics the last time we were dealing with al qaeda, if that does emerge to be the group responsibility for this. we were dealing with france being an extraordinary reluctant partner in this. france, over the past four or five years has become much more aggressive. in libya, they were way out ahead of us.

>> to the issue of congress and what they do in all of this do you you think there is a chance the republican controlled congress will actually debate what we are doing on isis this session? >> in terms of authorization for use in military force, i do believe there is. there are members in the party, certainly, who want to have this debate. i imagine that people on the incoming foreign relations committee, including senator corker, for instance, do want to talk about this. the question is do they just want to talk? or do they actually want to have a vote? at this juncture it is fair to guess, just a guess, that a lot would like to see the war going on without their fingerprints on it than vote for it. there are a few outspoken people. senator tim kaine has adamantly said we need to have a new aof. he is sort of in the minority status. a lot of members would site wash

their hands of it and not own it. how do you criticize the white house and its actions without reauthorizing the use of military force or having some kind of vote on what we should be doing to combat terror. can you do both in this congress. this is one of the great headic headaches that mitch mcconnell is going to have to deal with it. he has lindsey graham and john mccain in his conference right now. they are not going to go quietly into the good night. they have been in favor of a much more full debate about use of force. i think it is going to be really interesting. forget about the white house having to deal with the senate. it will be very interesting watching mcconnell try to control that debate in his own conference. >> that's the debate around foreign policy. there was some question about

john boehner's speakership yesterday. what does that mean for big issues of the day like foreign policy within the republican party? >> there are odd coalitions within the republican party. there are odd coalitions within the democratic party on this. strange bedfellows abound. rand paul and john mccain are at polar opposites. so too are hillary clinton and some of the members of the democratic party. this is a liberal and scary and interesting time. >> do you think liberals will take on hillary clinton on the issue of foreign policy the way republicans have taken on members of their own party or members positions? >> if the past is any guide, they certainly will. this is not 2008. we aren't in iraq. we don't have 160,000 troops in iraq. we are winding down the wars. the winding down process creates a similar conversation as the ramping up process did. what is our role in the world? what is our military footprint

to be in a world of these threats? hillary clinton for better or worse was a more mill tar is stick member of the democratic party. that was not to her advantage in 2008. i'm assuming some of the entrance in 2016 would like to remind the voters of that. >> thank you both for your time. coming up more on new information about the identities of the three suspects in the paris attacks coming up next. based on 6 different criteria... why did a panel of 11 automotive experts... ... name the volkswagen golf motor trend's 2015 car of the year? we'll give you four good reasons the all-new volkswagen golf starting at $17,995. there's an award winning golf for everyone. huh, fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. yeah, everybody knows that.

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shooters were linked to a yemeni terrorist organization the strong hold of al qaeda in the arabian peninsula. that is all for now. the ed show picks up our coverage. welcome to "the ed show" live from new york. let's get to, would. join me in condemning the barbaric attack this morning. >> france's deadliest terror attack in at least two decades. >> the horrific attack in paris. >> this clearly was an organized hit. >> it was a direct assault on a corner stone of democracy. >> these terrorists attack freedom of the speech and press. >> it is closed by foreign fighters. >> these attacks can happen