ds gathering to stand in solidarity against terrorism. >> france stood still for a moment of silence and beginning a national day of mourning. good day. i'm andrea mitchell in washington. we are following the latest breaking news. two suspects linked to the mass shooting. the brothers continue in a town more than 40 miles northeast of paris. right now there is a major police presence, a massing of police and helicopters in the area. law enforcement moving to the town hours after attackers with automatic weapons robbeded a gas station 15 minutes to the east. they stole fuel and food before making their get away. not known whether they are connected. more deadly violence in a southern paris area where a

woman police officer was gunned down and killed. there was no firm connection to wednesday's attack and police are treating it as the last known sighting of the suspects. ron allen is live in paris and nbc's cassandra joins me by phone from the site of the police search 40 miles outside of paris. set the scene of what is happening now in paris 24 hours later. >> we are expecting to get that in about 15 or 20 minutes. 90 minutes to the north and it is very intense. now that night as fallen it takes on a different character with police and s.w.a.t. units going and trying apparently to in or search for the two

suspects who they apparently believe are there. i'm at the republic about 15 minutes's walk or so from where the attack happened. you can see behind me there hundreds if not thousands of people gathering for a vigil. there was an informal call at 6:00 p.m. local time which just passed. throughout the day people lit candles and one display where it was a tribute to the juniorists killed as well. we have seen a lot of families and parents and a feeling of solidarity and shock and awe. i think there is a sense of community that is being feeling

resolute. there were tens of thousands of people and we expect that might happen again tonight. we learned more about the police officers who were killed. we know that this morning there was a female police officer killed in a separate incident. there was a 42-year-old veteran, a father, child, married. the 28-year-old younger officer who was on a bicycle patrol and started doing policing. trying to be a part of that kmurnt. the fertile officer was a body guard of the editors who was killed. people who were known in that community in that neighborhood because of course the threats that the magazine was facing was nothing new. the ties the young men have to syria and iraq and elsewhere are

not new and unknown to authorities here. tonight we are expecting a huge gathering and more solidarity and support and a nation coming together to determine not to be intimidated. andrea? >> it's extraordinary. thank you so much. cassandra is outside of paris, the village where there is a massing of police. me what you are seeing there, cassandra? >> we are seeing a very, very heavy police presence as they methodically search house to house in the village. we are 90 minutes northeast of paris where s.w.a.t. people teams with automatic weapons are knocking on every door and they are breaking out flashlights as they continue on. this is what we have been seeing as we drive through the french countryside. heavily armed s.w.a.t. teams and military police knocking on doors and searching for the suspect. >> is it known whether these brothers are from that general

region or why the police think they may be located in that region? >> very little has been confirmed about the brothers and where they lived. there have been reports that one of the brothers may have spent time in the champagne region of france which is not far from here. that being said, it being los like french officials and police forces are very methodically searching everywhere they can to find them. >> -- >> a lot is due to the fact that they were spotted at a gas station or reports they were spotted not far from here. the cops started looking in the direction of which they were traveling. >> one quick question about the third person the younger alleged suspect who turned himself in overnight and the family of that person said that he really was not involved and he was in school and he has an alibi. do we know about the third person? there was a lot of confusion

from french authorities as to whether there were two or three and the prosecution said initially three suspects. any word on that? >> there has been a ton of confusion and also not very much confirmed information, andrea. we know that initially we were told three suspects. witnesses at the scene of the attack reported seeing three men. however we do know that the young man who turned himself in to police did say he was at school and schoolmates have backed up the alibi. >> joining me now is keith ellison of minnesota. he was the first muslim-elect. after 9/11 you and others did so much to persuade americans no the to react negatively and not to paint people with a broad brush. this is a challenge for france which had a lot of negative legal actions and restrictive laws and a large muslim

community, more than 70%. what is the challenge as they approach this manhunt to not begin racial religious profiling. >> i think it's important for authorities to know that the muslim community is often the target of these terrorists who kill people under the veneer of islam. they have every opportunity to engage community members as allies against these murderous killers. i think it's important to remember, he killed 38 people. you guarantee they were all muslim. they don't really care. this is about power. i think that we should bear in mind these terrorists hope for a backlash. they hope that government will overreact because they will use people who are negatively affected and recruit them. it's important that they are swift in justice. they are careful to adhere to

the law and enlist and including the muslim community to stand against the terrorists. >> there were reports in the press that three mosques may have been targeted in some way. three mosques in france. clearly this is an issue of big concern that they issued a statement and statements from a number of the arab leaders around the persian gulf. it's really going to be incumbent upon french and world leaders and european leaders. >> let me tell you, one of the things that president george bush did was made it clear that this is a war against terrorists and not against people of a particular religious group. i think this is important to bear in mind. terrorism is an unfortunate and cruel fact of the world we live in and people of good will have

to stand together against the people who used extremism to advance the philosophy no matter what it is. i want to assure them that will killers do not care who is muslim and who is not. they are about power and terrorism and injecting fear. we need to stand together and we should never give them an opportunity to recruit among muslims who may have unfortunately been the victims of some backlash. i think that it's important to keep cool. to enlist allies and adhere to the law and due process. >> congressman, thank you. one of the victims was apparently muslim as well. i am joined by msnbc contributor, former assistant secretary of defense. the chair of terrorism center at west point, your alma mater. good to see you. >> this is a huge challenge, this manhunt.

what do we know and what the counter police are doing? >> we know the guys. >> they are following up on that. they had incredible eyewitness accounts that put them in this area and they are looking for a needle in a haystack. they will need intelligence but their pictures are all over the press. they will get caught eventually. >> there has been confusion with two or three suspects. identifications. this is a big challenge and that's the kind of thing we see. how good are the french counter intelligence people? >> very, very good. i worked with them for many, many years. they are very professional and committed. i think they will be as you pointed out, they have to be careful. there is a lot of movement in europe, not only france but germany. right wing extremism that take advantage of this to whip up a frenzy of anti-islamic fervor

there. the french are careful, but they will be professional and focused and get to the bottom of this. of that i'm confident. >> this will be a political, potential political fallout for other french officials since they did know at least one of these guys. one of the brothers who was under watch and people will be asking why couldn't they have prevented this? >> absolutely. a lot of questions to be asked. he got out of jail after a year to go to the mideast and be involved in terrorism. how he got out a year and a half -- not to be under surveillance and some known quantity, they will have a lot of answers. ile t you, this is not uncommon. even the boston bombers were known to the fbi as potential persons of interest and russians had told us about these two characters. they can't cover down on everybody, but they will have to get better. >> what about the

professionalism at the time of the assault, the way they handled their weapons and the way they were shooting at the windshield? on the back end, their establish plan. >> not very well done. he gets his id in a car. this is not unusual. i wrote a book about it. these can be good killers, but they make terrific mistakes as well. that's why they almost always get caught. i can't think of a case where they have not been caught. they make mistakes. they are nervous and although they look professional, they will get caught. >> is there a risk of copycats? we don't know if the other police shooting is related. >> there is always a risk of copycats and i hope it doesn't snowball. if this is a copycat, it will encourage others to do more. in france is a tremendous amount of discontent in the community. a lot has nothing to do with terrorism. that is more of an economic and

social issue. there is a smaller percentage of violent terrorists within that community that could be stoked by this. and brought to action. that could be very, very dangerous for france. >> thank you. >> you're welcome. >> again, a look at the thousands who gathered in paris at this hour. they take a stand against terrorism. up next, how france and the world are reacting to this attack. you are watching "andrea mitchell reports" only on msnbc. americans drink 48 billion bottles of water every year. that's enough plastic bottles to stretch around the earth 230 times. each brita filter can replace 300 of those. clean. clear. brita water. nothing is better.

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>> you are looking at live pictures of paris, the plaza

closest to the offices. france declared a day of mourning for the 12 victims of yesterday's mass shooting. france's president hollande led the country in a moment of silence. >> outside the famed cathedral, crowds gathered in the rain. flags are flying at half-staff for three days and in two hours, the eiffel tower will go dark the the signs of support are not limited to france. the parliament led a moment of silence today as did london's metropolitan police outside the new scotland yard. and in the u.s. hundreds gathered in new york's union square last night. >> i could not be more upset and saddened by the events today. they have touched the core the

heart of the french. >> here in washington crowds outside the museum chanted the now famous words, je suis charlie. vivian, thank you very much for being with us. what is the mood here during this manhunt? are people patient with the authorities or is there concern about the fact that at least one suspect was known and did get out of jail and not serving a lot of time. >> i don't think people have absorbed that here we had somebody who was supposedly under surveillance for a long time effectively pulling off a very big terrorist attack under the noses of the french please. the mood behind me is very contemplative, almost at the present timer.

you walk through the square and there wreaths made out of pens and pencils and people are wrying notes and lighting candles. it's almost silent even though there thousands of people in the square. there is a quiet mood as people absorb what happened. over and over today, people have compared the atmosphere in france a little bit like a post 9/11 where there were a lot of memorials in paris as well at that point. >> it certainly has that feel from the look of it. mourningful would be the thought that comes to mind. what about anger and profiling? there is a report of three mosques that have come under attack and retaliation aspects of this and profiling against muslims. >> it's definitely not the loudest voices thawt you hear in

france. right after yesterday's attack there emerged a sense of islam phobia, if you like. it has been prevalent over the last weeks and months. there is a new book warning of a muslim future for the country. you have essential low a rising anxiety about the millions of immigrants in chance. a tiny proportion of whom aim to be joining a jihadist movement and we have 1200 french citizens who have gone to fight in syria since the beginning of the war there. it's a very complex set of conditions and circumstances that the government has to deal

with. people are not particularly panicky. >> how would they react to the procedures that is post 9/11 where we have given up access to a lot of checks to get in and out. is that acceptable to the french? >> there certain things the french would find it very difficult to accept. there has been tremendous anger against the nsa leaks and that kind of networks and so on on the argument that it effectively protects the country against terrorism does not go down in france and there would be opposition to that. paris is a very difficult city

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. >> joining me now with more on all of this is pete williams. what do we know about the investigation and what american officials may be doing as well. i understand there is no increase in the security alert from homeland or any other increase of the counter terror measures here in states. >> that's right. that's because officials have been saying for the past 24 hours that all indications are this was a one off attack. it was planned in retaliation as one official said like a mob hit against this newspaper for the publications of what they consider to be offensive to patients of the prophet mohamed. no signs of being connected to a larger plot or anybody in the united states. so that's one track.

obviously police in the u.s. have been told and increased patrols around diplomatic facilities. other cities police have been told to remain vigilant. boston police have told their officers to do so. no overt measures that you would see. the second is to look back at what the intelligence chain has about the suspects. we have talked a lot about the younger of the two brothers. it was years ago in january that he was arrested for being part of a cell of people in paris who were being recruited to go fight in iraq. the authorities said he was arrested just before he planned to go to syria to make his way to iraq. his lawyer said at the time that he was grateful that he had gotten cold feet and was glad he got arrested. he was convicted in 2008 in may along with a number of other people in the cell.

he was given a three-year sentence, but the judge suspended all but 18 months of it. because he was in detention so long, the court decided that he had served his sentence in pretrial detention. he was out since 2008. two french officials have been saying that they knew about him and he was under surveillance and it underscores the difficulty of the unbelievable labor intensity to keep people under surveillance. one federal official said for every one person you are putting under surveillance you can tie up as many as ten people. you can't be within 24 hours and you have rotating people if they move around. they have to be different folks to follow them. it's labor intensive and you wonder while we are doing that what are we missing? in paris, they have a lot of people. it has been a lot of people

connected to terrorists in algeria and iraq and yemen. it has been a huge problem for the police which they admit. they have said they did not see anything in the days leading up to this warning of any attack. >> pete williams with the latest on the investigation. thanks pete. we have developing news from capitol hill. barbara boxer, veteran senator from california announced she will not run for reelection next year. she announced in a video message with her grandson. the democratic leader in the house got emotional when she heard the news. >> she is really a great leader our country. small in size but a giant in terms of her contribution to the country. as i said all i had was a call but i didn't want to keep you waiting.

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resolve that. at the same time that we acknowledge there is a real issue of extremism within this we have to be very careful not to engage in profiling and to recognize that one can't blame 1.6 billion adherence of this vast and complex religion. one can't blame this effect on all of them. one has to acknowledge that the taliban folk who is shot malala are one element of islam and she herself is another. this contains multitudes. >> let's avoid religious profiling and the average christian you wrote has nothing to apologize for when christian fanatics and the former yugoslavia critics are not to blame because of a fanatic in norway in 2011.

>> we have a tendency to otherize people if you will and the different race and religion and ethnicity and to perceive events into a narrative of threat. this is a very natural human thing and when i travel around the mideast, i sit down and hear it all plugs into this how not to respond with their own intolerance. >> i was talking earlier in the program. keith is united statesy muslim and praising what george w. bush did after 9/11. in trying to bring groups

together. you remember a service at the national cathedral. what does hollande have to do now given the fact that france has had so much division because of the large muslim community and anti-immigrant stats in some quarters and the right wing of course. >> and the head of one of these right wing parties will be a great beneficiary. i had these comments from luz limits in europe who may point out that nobody defames islam or the prophet more than people who murder cartoonists. the cartoonists are far less to islam than people who clauder the cartoonists. now on top of that there is going to be the backlash that is going to affect roughly 8% or 10% that is muslim.

one of the things i admired about australia after the incident there last month, the hostage taking in the cafe was the way australians gathered around for that i will ride with you twitter campaign offering -- i thought it was really kind of beautiful to be able to recognize on the one hand that that attack on that cafe was brutal and intolerable and to recognize that ordinary muslim australians were terrified of the backlash and needed support and to reach out and help them escort them safely. i thought that was a tremendous reaction on the part of australia.

>> syria is a breeding ground of terrorists who cross in and out and create more jihadis. that's of course the larger issue here. what is happening in the region that we are not focusing on enough. thank you. nicholas, you among all people have been leading in the effort to keep us focused. >> thanks very much andrea. appreciate it. >> and some kind of explosive device blew up outside an naacp office. the blast didn't do much damage to the building but fbi and atf are searching for a motive. there has been a lot of concern including from congressman john lewis who said i am deeply troubled. it reminds me of another period. they cannot be swept under the rug. how cartoonists like the victims targeted in paris are reacting with their pens today. this is "andrea mitchell

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. >> pope francis offered a prayer for the 12 victims of yesterday's deadly attack and tweeted to his nearly five million followers, prayers for paris. this as we learn more about the victims including charles cartoonist. 68-year-old economist bernard maurice was also killed. he wrote a column under a pseudohim in. police identified the two police officers killed. he was on a bicycle patrol in the neighborhood when officials say he was assassinated. today he is called a hero for doing his job.

frank was a 42-year-old married father who was killed in the offices where he was the body guard assigned to the paper's editor. the editor had been under police protection since appearing on a wanted list during the 2012 controversy. the cartoonist famously said i would rather die standing than live kneeling. and now for more on the massive hunt for the suspects. joining me again by phone from the site of this ongoing police search in france cassandra, what are the police doing now? >> that hasn't stopped the research and going door-to-door with weapons drawn searching each house. now the roads are still blocked off and moving around from house to house.

they are using flashlights. >> at this point what we know is two men are heavily armed and that was the focal point. >> i was not able to hear that because we were stopped and they are checking each car as they pass by. they are doing the searches. >> that's why the area has been so zeroed in for the massive search. >> yes exactly. we are not far from where the sighting was reported. that's why police have spread out in the area and town by town very, very small villages. there is only about 300 residents, but we saw dozens and

dozens of swat teams. >> now to another major stories, and an advisory from this cold arctic blast shutting schools from nashville to boston. they rarely close schools. schools also closed in chicago. typically a safe haven from weather conditions but not today. what are we hearing throughout the south? i heard there was even subfreezing weathers in mobile alabama which is unheard of. >> record breaking in parts of the south. you mentioned alabama and pensacola, florida and greenwood, mississippi. here in atlanta we got off to a very, very chilly start. the city known as hotlanta but it wasn't the case. we are over 20 degrees so it's not so bad, but much like other

parts of the country here in georgia, a few counties north delayed classes and school buses had to go door-to-door to keep the kids safe. the city opened up an emergency shelters to act as warming centers. they are gripping much the country and not just the south. wind chill temperatures started off at about negative 50. many other parts of the country are dealing with dangerously cold temperatures. here in the south, we are not used to this. thankfully it warmed up a little bit over the last couple of hours. back to you. >> thank you so much. more on the hunt for the two killers in france northeast of paris after a break. that's next here on "andrea mitchell reports." stay with us.

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. we have breaking news. pete williams confirms that eric holder will travel to paris to attend an international meeting on sunday. the meeting will include discussions on how to address terrorist threats. the foreign fighter encountering violent extremism and according to the announcement, the meeting was scheduled in response to yesterday's mass attack. the events in paris have sparked an out pouring for around the world and vigils the pen has been a symbol of support and solidarity. late night comedy hosts whose stock and trade is mocking religious and social figures took a moment to reflect. >> in this country we take it for granted that it's our right to poke fun at the untouchable or the sacred. but today's tragedy in paris reminds us very viscerally that it's a right some people are inexplikably forced to die for. all of us are terribly sad for the families of the vehicles and

the people of france and for anyone in the world tonight who now has to think twice before making a joke. it's not the way it's supposed to be. >> indeed. on his show, jon stewart paid tribute to the slain cartoonists. >> i know very few people go into comedy as an act of courage. mainly because it shouldn't have to be that. it shouldn't be an act of courage. it should be taken as established. those guys were killed for their cartoons. a stark reminder that the legislators and journalists and institutions that we jab and ridicule are not in any way the enemy. however frustrating and outraged it can become, the conversation amongst those on let's call it

team civilization. the cartoonist free speech on the attack. tom, what can we say about the cartoonists of fellow journalists expressing opinions? >> it's a heart breaking loss for the families and friends and the shocking attack on freedom of expression. the only mid-igating thing has been such a huge outpouring of support from france and the united states and around the world for the concept of freedom of expression. it's something that according to brian and jon stewart said we

tend to take for granted, but never should. >> they have poured their hearts and souls and with the message you expressed, the pen will endure. that is the thought. >> it is. it's the thought that the pen is mightier than the sword. i wanted to convey and it's not that it is always vulnerable. # it's an ongoing struggle. it always will be. this is a crucial moment and conan said we shouldn't have to take this for granted and we do take it for granted.

i have never taken it for granted. what they were doing was courageous and they knew the risks they were running. now that's coming up and people are starting to think about it more carefully. >> up until recently up until the danish occur toons, we thought of editorial cartoonists being in danger by publishers and statements in the cartoons. now this kind of violence really does shock and get the attention. >> cartoons are not just cartoons. when they are done well they are probably the best way to summarize and make a point.

and you have to think there is a discussion and now we are having it. >> thank you for your work. good to see you. that does it for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." my colleague joins me from what's next. >> good to see you. we have a lot up ahead. the latest leads in the paris case. a lot of what andrea just narrate and new developments this hour and developments at home. we are following president obama who is scheduled to speak this very hour. plus the story so many of you asked us to cover complain about the media. the naacp bombing in colorado springs. we will look at every angle on that for you. stick around. zero heartburn! prilosec otc. the number 1 doctor-recommended frequent

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. >> welcome to the program, everybody. it's 1:00 p.m. on the east coast and 10:00 on the west. it's 7:00 in paris where all eyes are on the manhunt where a terrorist massacred cartoonists from a magazine. there was a reported sighting of two suspects brothers. they are french nationals and neither is a stranger to french intelligence. this hour in paris, people are once again coming together. it is estimated there two,000 right now. they are mourning. you are looking at the live shot. they are reacting as new leads come in throughout the day. let's get into the latest leads in paris where ron allen is on the. for us. can you walk us through the latest developments? >> we have just been listening to a press conference here who is essentially the chief law enforcement