. >> welcome to the program, everybody. it's 1:00 p.m. on the east coast and 10:00 on the west. it's 7:00 in paris where all eyes are on the manhunt where a terrorist massacred cartoonists from a magazine. there was a reported sighting of two suspects brothers. they are french nationals and neither is a stranger to french intelligence. this hour in paris, people are once again coming together. it is estimated there two,000 right now. they are mourning. you are looking at the live shot. they are reacting as new leads come in throughout the day. let's get into the latest leads in paris where ron allen is on the. for us. can you walk us through the latest developments? >> we have just been listening to a press conference here who is essentially the chief law enforcement officer updating us

on the day's developments. the headline is that there is security that is going to be stepped up more so here with hundreds of military and even more police in different parts of the country based on what they have learned because of the developments that happened here today. he said the security will be stepped up in places like public buildings and tourist destinations and places of worship. journalists were attacked in the incident yesterday. you also recall that earlier today, there was an incident where a female police officer was somehow investigating a traffic accident that happened somewhere in the south of paris was killed by a gunman. he said that was not expected to the attack on the magazine but they were searching for that suspect. what we have been watching through the afternoon hours is a massive manhunt that is zeroed in on the community that is

about 90 minutes north where there dozens of police s.w.a.t. officers heavily armed officers going house to house through the community because there appears to be strong evidence that the suspects were sighted somewhere there near a gas station that they apparently held up earlier in the day. that very fast moving event of the day and the focus seems to be on this community to the north of paris where again heavily armed police are going door-to-door searching for the two suspects. >> we talked about the two suspects who are on the run in the search. there is also the third suspect who is in police dust dee 18-year-old hamid. he surrendered to police. what do we know about him? >> conflicting information. we are being hold by some sources that he apparently has an alibi.

he was not anywhere near any of this happening and he was in school or some other community. we know he has not been charged as of yet. he is under arrest in custody at this hour but we don't know if or when he will be charged. we were told by authorities today that there several other people who have been arrested in this country and essentially held without charge for the time as the investigation continues. there many people a number of people who are under surveillance. again, the question of young men from these communities being involved in activities that is not new to the country. >> nbc's ron allen, thanks for that. the requesty is who are the karachi brothers? they have not reached conclusions about the biographies and the affiliation of the attackers or whether they had military training.

some concluded that from watching that but we don't know for a fact. what can we glean from their movements? let's take a look at that more closely. joining us is pete williams here on set and our terrorism analyst evan coleman. how were french authorities able to identify the three fairly rapidly it seems? >> the indications are that despite the apparent discipline involved in the operation, one of the two left behind an identity card or document in the car which they apparently did not intend to a band on. when they left the scene of the shooting, they were driving and the car got into a crash and they had to abandon it. when the police recovered the car, they found this id card. that's the understanding we have from french authorities. >> evan as we mentioned, some concluded from watching video that this was a coordinated

trained attack. what do you conclude? >> look, it does appear they had training with firearms. they knew enough to bring loves and masks and the way they are holding the weapons and the pattern or shots as they land. it's not a spray pattern. they get the shots fairly close to the center. they look like they used guns before. there were reports that they may have returned from syria last summer. did that really happen? we don't know. all we know for sure is at least one of the brothers in 2005 did try to travel it syria and on to iraq. he was 20 years old. the question is what was motivating him. his lawyer said he was not a dedicated extremist. he was misguided. >> one analyst told us that there was chatter ahead of time that suggested that authorities could have known about an attack happening this week. have you heard anything of that

kind? >> no and in fact we have been told the opposite. they have not found anything that would indicate an attack was imminent and didn't see anything as they stopped and looked at this. the french authorities have said they had at least the younger of the two. the one who was arrested in syria and iraq and convicted in 2008 and 7ed 18 months of a three-year sentence that he had been in and detained and they had him under surveillance. it's a difficult thing to do and they didn't detect anything that indicated it was about to happen. >> your take on that? >> reports something might have happened over the new year and there were talks about the attacks and nothing happened. even if there were alerts about potential, it's not the right timing. it wasn't specific enough to do

something about it. >> thanks to both of you. >> thank you. >> you bet. >> as this stretches on into the night, france is mourning. >> bells of notre dame tolling for the 12 victims followed by a moment of silence. >> we have seen vigils in the wake of this attack including this one in paris and people gathering in madrid showing the unity with france and the victims of this attack. back here at home in new york city, people also gathered. there was a gathering in union square. everyone standing in solidarity. president obama is out on the road and we are tracking his movements from phoenix, giving a speech this very hour. here's a live picture. for his state of the union

spoiler tour he should make the remarks at the central high school and focus on his plan to make housing more affordable. we will keep tabs and bring you news that comes out of phoenix today. just one of several new policies that he is previewing will be in the speech. of course all of it will then come to the floor in the state of the union on the 20th of the month. here's kristen welker. tell us about the prestate of the union roll out. what are they hoping to do? >> it's interesting. usually the president would deliver the state of the union address and hit the road to try to sell some of the policies that he just announced. this year he is doing just the opposite. previewing the policies that he is laying out and as you mentioned, today is focus is housing. announcing that they will lower interest rates by .5% for some first time home buyers. that could save families about

$900 a year in a mortgage payments. that could bring 250,000 new home buyers to the market. they point out that is a drop in the bucket when it comes to the two million new home buyers that would normally enter the market with a booming economy. the president got criticism for not doing enough on housing. this is something he wants to make a focus of his final two years. he will be in tennessee talking about education and ronan, it's important to point out he continues to get updated in paris as he continues on this three-day-trip. >> we will be watching that speech and again, we will bring anything of note that comes out. kristen welker thanks again. >> thanks. >> stay here. the discussion that is happening in newsrooms. how much to reveal of those offensive images published by

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rift cartoonists. others also voicing and drawing their support. they join the tools used by artists in this tapgz in french they show break one. thousands will rise. another hit, this 2006 cartoon from the new yorker drawn by michael shock. you don't see anything, but the cartoon is a blank box captioned please enjoy this culturally ethnically and religiously and politically cartoon responsibly. thank you. it hits on the pressure he is known for. on the debate in so many newsroom or shies away from publishing this content, what do we lose? joining us now the man behind

that cartoon at the new yorker and senior writer at the university and a former editor who has taken an outspoken stand. what about the message of people who are resonateing? >> i was told it was blowing up on twitter and never had anything blow up before. i went and looked at it and i said wow. i was told it was the immediate response to this attack. eight years later, it's interesting. i think it has -- i'm amazed what a resilient cartoon it has become. especially since there is nothing in it. >> that are hits on a very difficult issue. in the punch line to that

cartoon, it's impossible to make an inoffensive cartoon to all demographics. how do you juggle the need to report this story where the heart of the story is a cartoon many find offensive? >> my cartoons are through the filter of the new yorker which is a kind of unique art form. my audience is pretty specific and i have to do a new yorker cartoon. so to deal with the issues and still be appropriate for my publication, it's usually a thinking piece. that's why i decided not to draw anything. >> you also took a stand on this. they were saying you cannot kill an idea by murdering innocent people. they nudge it towards used. do you think they are doing it and not running the cartoons? >> it raises a lot of troubling

issues that we face as a multicultural society. not to mention the fact that it would be hard to blame or accuse anybody besides the people who killed those 12 people of being cowardly in the immediate aftermath of this. where the line could be drawn is if it's to inflame a group of people who have stated as part of their then i think that is worth making a case about. what i meant about the suicide was allowing ourselves to close ourselves off from all points of view. also from curbing the freedom of

speech of people who feel that the cartoons were racist or insensitive. those people should be able to have a voice now as well. any threat we have from freedom of speech or from religion does not come from a small group of militants. that can come from anywhere. more often comes from governments and from the sort of restrictive moors of the society. >> the attack createses a moment where it ups the stakes on the entire debate you just described. there is news worthiness to the cartoons. >> clearly now they have the editorial. >> now it's news. that's the thing. it's a deep and really sad irony for the sat rifts that their sat ire was so cutting that it caused them to -- people reacted to it in a way that they murdered them not to put any

blame on them but it worked so well. the other thing is that now the images that supposedly the group wanted protected and to be never seen are being seen by many millions more people than they would have before. even given the understandable restriction that is the press feels for their own safety. >> it's a complicated debate and it's case by case. in the interest of full disclosures are the standards teams and they released a statement and they said not to show headline or cartoons that could be viewed as insensitive or offensive, but a lot of organizations are in that boat. we saw the telegraph blur out images and get a lot of blow back for that. the fact is that we self sensor all the time for a lot of different reasons. the question is should there be a change in the policies given the news worthiness we discussed. something you have both tackled as individuals working for large

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rather than comfort a sister coming to the aid of her dying brother, the officers man handled and tackled her and cuffed her and tossed her in the back of a patrol car. tamir rice was shot on november 22nd by officers who believed he had a real gun. it was as so many know now, a pellet gun. last month his family filed a lawsuit against the cleveland police department in connection with the shooting. a grand jury will decide whether they will face charges. that's one story getting picked up rapidly online. the giants of social media, the daily spike. the out pouring of grief and solidarity following the massacre has not let up. the #je suis charlie has a 3.5 million tweet count. it has been tweeted over 5.5 million times. muslim was a big trend and twitter users as you might have

predicted because it's twitter began attacking muslims and islam after the shooting. others hit back at that anti-islam sentiment citing the advances of science, math and autonomy and poetry and the discovery of coffee etc. they said blame the muslim game people is the rising the blaming of a faith. our favorite #jesus and mo a fun cartoon sitting together in a bar enjoying each other's company making the rounds in a big way. another story eclipsed by the parachuting in the eyes of many was the bombing outside the naacp office. #naacp bombing has not let up and was not eclipsed and has been making the rounds with outrage and the media turning a blind eye. it has been trending with over 152,000 mentions of folks expressing the lack of coverage.

ra shida jones joins the call. it's barely getting coverage. #naacp. they wrote wait there was a bombing? thank got for social media. i would never have known otherwise. oh, well. shrug, right? we will have more on this in our next seg am. another story that is sure to spike quickly, barbara boxer not seeking reelection in the u.s. senate. she did it in a great way. a video with her grandson doing the interview. i'm impressed. there is a future for you wherever you want to go. she concluded with a poem. >> the senate is the place where i have always made my case. for families for the planet and the human race. measure 20 years in a job i love thanks to california and the lord above. so although i won't be working for my senate space and i won't

be running in that next tough race, as long as there issues and challenges and strife i will never retire because that's the meaning of my life. >> great or just super walk ward? the way that so many family videos are. you be the judge. a number of big names being tossed around are eric garcetti and mala harris. we are getting a huge response to the call to action. many chiming in on the interview with the transgender student whose application was returned twice without review. smith really lost out on a bright student and showed how far behind in leadership it is. whitney tweeted don't be on the wrong side of history. all women were given equal consideration. allow bright young women like her to be reviewed. don't be a boulder in the way of

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that one is after a bombing at an naacp chapter in colorado springs. they detonated on tuesday and no one was hurt. the fbi has not said if the naacp was the target. for some there is no doubt and growing frustration that the story has been under reported. on twitter, naacp bombing has gone viral. look at the huge peak there. i am deeply troubled by the bombing in colorado and reminds me of another period. they cannot be swept under the rug. this tweets, summing up the frustration at the bombing on tuesday is only overshadowed by the significance of the media ignoring it. black lives matter. tre main lee is following for us. what's the latest on this manhunt? >> i spoke with the special agent in charge of the fbi's denver field office who said they are looking for a white man in his 40s, a person of interest

who perhaps is balding. witnesses tell the officials that they saw this gentlemen fleeing the scene. >> the bomb didn't hurt anybody, but it could have been a lot more dangerous. it didn't come back to fully detonate. >> there were gasoline containers. they filled so many people's minds in that community and with the naacp. it couldn't be much worse. >> why do you think this hasn't gotten more traction? is it the unfortunate timing of paris and for our show, we talked about it during breaks and the hour. there was so much happening in paris and so many dead. that dominates the news cycle.

there were no casualtyies and property damage. i think this kind of fizzled out under the weight but it didn't have the casualty and didn't spark that breaking news concern that other incidents could have had. >> that's one take and many in the audience were frustrated and thought it deserved more coverage in the midst of the paris story. thank you so much for your reporting. we will be checking in throughout the week. mark from the urban league it is always such a pleasure to have you here. as we mentioned, for many the frustration is that this appears to have been targeting in some way a civil rights group that evokes all of the ugly memories and you are the head. how do you read this? >> thank you to msnbc for focusing on this. there is no excuse why even in the sense of that why this shouldn't garner any attention.

like the national urban league. our employees are volunteers and supporters and others should not be targeted by hate groups or hateful individuals. i hope that the fbi and the department of justice are going to apprehend the clown, if you will who planted this bomb outside this office in colorado springs. >> me about the civil rights going on in that part of the country and do you think that work was being targeted? >> you know the civil rights work that goes on in any part of the country now has national attention. because of social media and cable news. no doubt ferguson and no doubt new york. no doubt all of the incidents. cleveland and the tensions between communities and police and the way in which the naacp and the urban league and the national action and many, many others have taken to activism

and protests. sometimes that makes people uncomfortable and haters react in a hateful way. we have to expose it and condemn it. i was happy to see that john lewis condemned it. i think it harkens to a time. >> so many of our fans reached out and said why are you not covering this. i share that concern. why do you think the mainstream media did not jump on this as quickly as they may have wanted? >> there were not casualties and because it happened at the same time because of the tragic and awful incident the incident occurred and there has to be coverage on the efforts by law enforcement to apprehend the offender and bring the offender

to justice. gain msnbc and you have taken this step and my encouragement is that you continue to follow this important story. >> while i have you here i want to ask you about another story on so many mind this is week. the backlash ongoing with the house. he was alleged as we all know to have spoken to this white supremacist group in 2002. that story is the old part. the current part is you asked for a meeting with them you and several other leaders. you asked him to look at the track record long and hard and doing something to change. >> he was a member of my delegation when i was mayor of new orleans. if i did not have what i would consider to be a cordial relationship with him, i would have led the effort to call for him to step aside. since i had a swordial relationship with him, we wanted

to talk to him and meet with him. what was disturbing to me is not only the fact that he spoke to this david duke group, but also in recent days we learned that he voted against the martin luther king holiday bill in 2004, one of only three louisiana legislators voting against making it a state holiday 20 years after it had been a federal holiday. he may have blocked the efforts to rename a post office after an iconic civil rights lawyer and judge, lionel cocollins. we have written to him and i hope you will follow our efforts to have a conversation with him. i am with holding judgment on what action should be taken relative to steve. again, i never had a problem having a conversation with him. even though we had deep fill sop cal disagreements. >> and you wrote you mentioned a letter outlining concerns asking

for a meeting. we will put that on our website and check in with you. >> wade hender and i wrote that letter and many others in the community join in the sentiments of that letter. >> always a pleasure. thank you for your time. thank all of you. stay with us. today is a big turning point that marks four years since former congresswoman gabby giffords was shot and survived and a transformed movement on gun control since then. during president obama's visit to arizona, he took time to meet with the giffords and husband mark kelly. looking great four years after the shooting. keep it here. much more on the latest leads in that manhunt in france. you are going to be live from the search area northeast of paris. they are conducting a hunt for the two suspects. nk really has no hidden fees on savings accounts? that's right. it's just that i'm worried about you know "hidden things..." ok, why's that?

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>> we are continuing to follow breaking news in paris all day. an enormous manhunt for two brothers who are french nationals of algerian decent who police believe killed 12 people. nbc news wrilter is in the search area in the suburbs north of paris and joins us. what's the latest you are hearing and seeing? >> we are seeing a very, very heavy police presence in the french countryside. we have been through several villages northeast of paris and they are going house to house, searching with weapons drawn for any sign of the suspect. this is because there reports that were sighted at a gas station outside of paris and since then police and s.w.a.t. teams and security forces have literally been going door-to-door ruling out and

going zone to zone to see if they can track down the suspect. >> thank you so much. here in the u.s. political reaction has been swift. south carolina senator saying that the u.s. must use this attack as an opportunity to reevaluate our own national security posture. dianne feinstein saying it confirms our greatest fear that is the attacks are likely to happen first in europe and quite possibly over here. big names on both sides are focusing on the threat to free speech. bob casy is no stranger to this issue and was the cosponsor of the freedom resolution that just passed last year. it's good to have you back on the show. when you look at u.s. political reaction, you see a lot of calls on the right for a reevaluation as senator graham put it of the national policy. do you agree with that? >> i don't think we need a reevaluation but we need to reassert the basic principals of

the strategy which have been playing out for years. our country is prepared for almost any contingency, but we have to remind ourselves again and again and therefore prepare for attacks that will not be similar to the 9/11 attack. they will be smaller and more focused on whether it's the press or institutions. and to have strategies that will be commensurate with the threat. >> when you see senator feinstein's comments saying those types of attacks could happen in the u.s., is that a fair reflection of the intelligence that she would know well or is there fear mongering? >> i know diane to be whenever she speaks about a matter that is grounded in intelligence, she does it based on the facts. so i take what she says very seriously. we are going to be prepared for

any kind of contingency, but it reminds us just as the terrorists tried to take out basic institutions or our belief in basic institutions whether it's attacking a commercial center like new york or attacking the pentagon which is a symbol of the military strength, i don't think the french people will be intimidated just because you went at an institution that represented freedom of expression. they will get through this and we will continue to be a close and supportive ally as they do that. >> you mentioned and cosponsored as we mentioned a resolution of press freedom and the need for that is striking looking at the data. the number of journalists killed in the last year is sobering 61 across the world. what more can our foreign policy do to protect them. is it something more than the

resolution you sponsor? >> it obviously is part of our national security sfrat gee on the ground in foreign countries. look, there some journalists who won't want to be constrained that way and do their job. there is a limit to what we can do as a country in terms of imposing a security construct on the press. that will be up to individual organizations or individual reporters. i don't think there has been a time where the press has been more under siege, not just in the most horrific and violent way, but sometimes more subtly and with less violence with the pressure they are under not to report and we have to figure out better ways to integrate their security.

with the judgment of him publishing the more offensive cartoons. when you look back on that with the defense of of free speech happening now, was that a mistake to get involved. >> i would much prfr when we as a nation either public officials are commenting on how a particular news organization or any part of the press is conducting their business. we first and foremost have the freedom of expression. you can debate how you do that. what we saw in paris was not just a direct attack on an individual organization individuals within that office. it was really a direct attack on our values. >> senator bob casey -- >> french people and people around the world. we have to be determined. >> that is what we have been hearing. thank you for the statements. >> thanks.

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we're back and with a rare treat. good news, yes, it can actually exist in the news cycle if you really fight for it. scientists finding a new class of antibiotics, the first such discovery, in fact in 30 years. these new drugs could work without bacteria rapidly becoming resistant. that's a huge deal since so many diseases are becoming resistant to the antibiotics currently in use. in fact, just in the u.s., at least 23,000 people die every year because of antibiotic resistant bacteria. the new discovery was first reported in nature magazine. scientists found it in the soil.

while the compound seems to be safe so far in mice a lot more testing is still needed to know how well it's going to work in humans. an exciting moment today for science and medical treatment. peter hotez here to break it down. and last month the state department named him the u.s. science envoy. congratulations on that. it's good to have you back on. >> happy new year. >> same to you. what kind of illnesses do you see this drug class being applied to? >> well i think the excitement of this discovery is not just a new class of antibiotics. these scientists have opened the door to a whole new pathway for discovering new antibiotics. you know many of the antibiotics we take are actually discovered from microorganisms that you grow from the soil, for instance, penicillin is that way. there's even a de-worming drug for river blindness that was discovered from a soil sample from a golf course in japan. the problem is that this

requires you to be able to grow the organism in the laboratory. and through genomic studies over the last 10 years, we realize you can't grow in the laboratory by conventional means. these scientists have discovered this novel ichip they've made which allows them to grow bacteria and identify new antibiotics. it basically opens the door two logs higher from what we've previously had in terms of number of new antibiotics. >> how did they come to make this discovery and in soil, no less? >> well we know that there's lots of microorganisms in the soil and through genomics what we've discovered for every one bacteria we can grow there are 99 we can't grow. they've created this chamber where they isolate individual bacteria and put the chamber reproducing soil conditions and did it in a high throughput way to identify thousands of new

bacteria at the same time. and then they could just go and fish out different antibiotics that are being synthesized. the beauty of this paper, it's a very elegant paper, they've been able to now show provide proof of concept they can isolate the antibiotic and show it actually works against bacteria previously resistant to other antibiotics. >> give us a sense of time line. realistically, if this ends up proving to be safe in human studies, how long before we could potentially see this applied and sold on the market? >> well again, for every antibiotic discovered at this stage, 1 in 10 fail in clinical development because of safety reasons or lake of toller toleratability. we could discover hundreds of new ones over the coming decade. the problem that we have is many of the pharmaceutical companies

are not incentivized to discover new antibiotics because the profit margin is much lower compared to other blockbuster drugs. so we have a market failure problem also that we also have to overcome. >> some problems ahead, but still an exciting day. thank you, doctor always a pleasure. >> absolutely. >> that wraps up today's "rf daily." appreciate your taking the time. it's a live shot of the eiffel tower in paris. that iconic landmark scheduled to go dark at the top of this coming hour. in honor of the 12 victims of yesterday's deadly shooting. we will be bringing that to you. and my colleague joy reid is going to be covering the situation in paris throughout the coming hour. a lot of to cover. >> indeed thank you very much my friend. have a great rest of the day. good afternoon, this is the "reid report." and we start with the manhunt stimunderway stimunderway. patrolling streets in a town just northeast of paris searching from house to house. for a pair of brothers suspected

in the assassination of 12 people in the attack on the french satirical neutral "charlie hebdo." we'll be right back.

good afternoon, everyone. this is the reid report. and we start with the manhunt still underway for the gunmen in the deadly shooting spree. s.w.a.t. teams patrolling the streets in a town northeast of paris searching from house to house for a pair of brothers suspected in the assassination of 12 people in the attack on the french satirical newspaper charlie hebdo. lights on the eiffel tower are about to go dark in memory of the 12 individuals who were killed in tuesday's attack. this morning, a moment of silence was held at notre dame with president francois hollande with other french officials in attendance.