with conventional satellite -- or should i say space equipment that the country's been using, for us to get to this planet 438-b. >> a saturn rocket would take over a million years. we need a new rocket system. matter anti-matter rockets. >> thank you, i don't think we'll make it in our lifetime. that's therks ed show. "politicsnation" with reverend al sharpton starts right now. good evening, rev. >> good evening, ed, and thanks to you for tuning in. we start with breaking news on the manhunt for two suspects in the paris terror attacks. french s.w.a.t. teams are going house to house in a town about 90 miles northeast of paris. helicopters are flying overhead trying to locate the suspects. over 24 hours after an attack on a magazine in paris left 12 people dead a third suspect

turned himself in. and also today, the first images from inside the magazine's offices, showing the gruesome carnage. and moments ago, the "new york times" reporting one of the brothers may have received months of training from al qaeda in yemen. including training in small arms combat and marksmanship. we should note last night nbc news reported that one suspect had been killed and two were in custody. today obviously we know that's not the case. it's a fast developing story with a lot of moving parts. we're committed to accuracy on this and we have all the angles covered tonight. our team coverage looking at the manhunt, the terror connection and the police investigation. we start tonight with nbc's ron

allen in paris. ron, what's the latest on the manhunt? >> well reverend al we've not heard much from the authorities for the past few hours, since night has fallen here. we're getting very regular updates from our colleagues on the ground there. it's about 90 minutes away from here. but things seem to have gone quiet. you might expect that at night. there was a huge police semi- military-style operation going on up there, with dozens of officers, s.w.a.t. units going door to door. apparently following some pretty serious leads they had for these two suspects. but of late we've not heard a lot about what's going on up there, and it's really unclear whether there was a solid lead solid information, or what. there have been tips reports of possible sightings of the suspects throughout the day. so at this point, it's really unclear exactly where they are in this manhunt. and there's a lot of territory to cover up there.

>> now, we're getting reports, were these two suspects already under surveillance? >> yes. the younger brother had been under surveillance. had been arrested and charged and convicted of crimes dating back to 2008 or so. so yes, they were known to authorities. the other brother was described as being on the fringes of his other brother's activities. so yes, they were under surveillance. i believe as many as a thousand or so young men who have ties to these jihadi groups who the french authorities have been trying to keep tabs on for -- in recent years. and since the attack of a day ago, they have several dozen they are trying to keep under close surveillance. in his comments the interior minister and others have said essentially that they don't have enough officers to do 24-hour surveillance on so many

individuals. and there's some indications that these two may have slipped through the cracks. they are also the two brothers on the united states no-fly list for sometime. so also known to u.s. authorities. >> what do we know about the 18-year-old suspect who turned himself in? >> not much. unclear. there have been reports that he maintains he had nothing to do with this and that he's presented an alibi supported by classmates, friends, others that he was not there when this happened. we do not think that he has been charged with a crime. we believe he's still in custody and being questioned. there's also the third suspect that was involved in the shooting of the policewoman this morning in the south of paris. so that's another suspect that they are definitely looking at as a possible murder suspect. so -- and that's in another part of the city. the point being, this is a wide-ranging operation. there are things going on all over town.

you can perhaps hear sirens in the background. some of that is normal but some of it is not. there's a heavy police and military presence in and around paris. that's going to be stepped up tomorrow. that's what the interior minister said in his remarks. so that's an indication perhaps that this may not be over. and no one knows exactly what might happen next. >> all right, nbc's ron allen, thank you for your reporting tonight. now let's bring in michael sheehan former deputy commissioner of counterterrorism for the nypd and jim cavanaugh, retired agent and msnbc law enforcement analyst. thank you both for being here. >> good evening. >> my pleasure. >> michael, what's your assessment of the manhunt up to this point? >> well they're having some difficulty finding these two guys but i think eventually they will find them. these guys made mistakes already. they left an i.d. card in a car which allowed the police to

identify them and plaster their pictures all over the country. and they got some leads to where they are physically but they're going to need help now from the local people to identify these people and get some tips. but i think eventually with this massive manhunt and the french are very, very competent police that eventually they'll find these two guys. >> jim, do you agree? give me your assessment of the hunt? and is there any chance these suspects could elude police for days to come? >> yes, they could elude the police for a while, reverend al. i agree with michael, look climbing the mountain in these cases is the identification of the actors. just like in this case that is the hardest task for law enforcement. it's not the apprehension if you know who they are. so they claim the mountain. they got to the tip of everest by knowing who they are. and now they're trying to squeeze the cord on down. they think maybe they're in the forest north of paris, on foot in a car. but these guys have the keys to

a car. they have kalashnikovs and maybe a rocket-propelled grenade. they're not going to win the gun battle with the french police. they'll lose that. but they could maybe put a rocket-propelled grenade into a police vehicle or engage the police with kalashnikovs so this could get pretty ugly. the thing is, are they still in that area, or have they carjacked someone else? are they in a home holding a family hostage, eating their food? there's a lot of things they can do at the moment and the police have to find out what that is. >> let me ask you, michael, i said earlier that we had a report that the younger brother had been trained by al qaeda. and what does that say to you? >> yeah that's correct, reverend al. we had early indications that he had linkage to al qaeda in the arabian peninsula, that's aqap. right now, al qaeda is separate

from isis in iraq and syria. the main operational arm of al qaeda has shifted to yemen, to aqap. so the fact that he has connections with the most operational arm of aq which is in yemen now is very significant. if he went there for training they're very highly qualified terrorists there that could have given him advanced training on weapons, explosives rocket launchers or any other type of weapon. this is an extremely dangerous character right now, but i agree with mr. cavanaugh, this guy eventually will if he confronts the french gendarmes, they will lose. they're highly competent. >> there are reports that the 18-year-old says he has an alibi. here's what the independent reports. classmates of an 18-year-old suspect have protested his innocence by saying that he was in class at the time of the incident in which 12 people were murdered. now, what's your take on this

jim? and is it possible there were actually only two attackers not three? >> right. it's possible there was only two attackers. we saw the video where they killed the french officer on the ground. and you only see two attackers. and one of the two attackers is driving the vehicle. you don't see a third man. that's only a snapshot of what occurred that day. there's other witnesses that reported three. then you have the shooting in the south of france that killed a policewoman and a man dressed all in black with a bullet-proof vest. so if there was a third actor, he could have escaped to the south of paris, he's on his own, he's in the streets. the police come up on him, what's the motive to kill this officer and a street sweeper? doesn't appear to be a robbery. why is the man wearing a bullet-proof vest dressed in black? could be separate. >> what does that say to you, a man in another part of paris but kills a police officer with a

bullet-proof vest? does that say anything to you, mike? >> absolutely. as jim said we're not sure who this character is but it increasingly looks like it's tied to this incident either by the third person as was mentioned, or a copycat, someone who was inspired by this attack and decided to take action on his own. either way, looks like he could be tied to this action but we don't know for sure right now. with regard to the 18-year-old, it's might sense right now, if i had to guess, that he was innocent. when he heard his name on television, he turned himself in. he may still be involved we don't know. or perhaps that guy's name is fairly common. perhaps that name is still out there. we don't know yet about the third individual. but my sense is an 18-year-old guy is probably not involved. >> let me ask you this jim, the "new york times" reports one witness who was inside the magazine's office says the attackers told her quote, you are a woman, but think about

what you're doing. it's not right. then he turned to his partner, who was still shooting and shouted, we don't shoot women, we don't shoot women, we don't shoot women! now, they did actually kill one woman, but what do you read from those statements? >> you know it's a typical criminal sociopathic behavior. they're trying to grab some noble -- nobility in their criminal actions, we don't do this we do this. the whole scenario we're avenging the insults to the prophet, trying to show how noble they are. we don't do this to women. then they kill a woman. they're cold-blooded killers. they don't care about the prophet either. they just want the legitimacy that islam can give to the terror groups. they want the power of that the power of the 1.6 billion muslims in the world who do not subscribe to this. they're trying to grab that

powers and we should never let them take it. we have to fight that at every turn. i think the world is ready to do that mentally and strategically, digitally, across the web, physically with arms police military. michael knows from his experiences in washington and with the nypd that's the way the war goes. it's on all fronts. ideologically as well. in the united states, we've let that drop down. this 50-unit thing at the state department needs to be a lot big tore counter this ideology. >> michael, you have experience in this. assess it for us, where are we? >> as jim said they've made good progress identifying who the two shooters are. that's a major step forward. they will find these guys. but it's very troubling because i'm very afraid in france there's a lot of tension in france right now. every night there are individuals burning cars in the

suburbs of france. that's more of a social economic issue. but there's a lot of anger and i worry about copycats trying to duplicate what they've been. but as far as progress, i'm confident they have the guys' names and now it's a matter of tracking them down and putting them in handcuffs. sore or if they resist, they will be killed. >> very important questions, we'll certainly be following and watching this. thank you both for your time. >> you're welcome. straight ahead, how did the alleged terror suspects become cold-blooded murderers? a 10-year-old video emerges, showing one suspect just before he was radicalized. plus is it domestic terrorism at home? the fbi is investigating a colorado building rocked by an

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breaking news new video of president obama leaving the french embassy moments ago, offering his condolences after the terror attack in paris. he signed a condolence book to honor the victims and to show solidarity with the people of france during this moment of national tragedy. we'll be right back.

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we're back with our breaking news. authorities are scouring parts of northern france looking for the two brothers suspected in the paris terror attack. these men were known to french intelligence. the one on the left was arrested on terrorism charges in 2005. at the time, he was preparing to go to iraq where he planned to fight with celtic militants. but before that he was reportedly not a devout muslim. smoking marijuana, drinking alcohol, and listening to rap music.

joining me now is christopher dickie foreign editor for "the daily beast." and fred burton the vice president of intelligence for strat 4, a global intelligence and advisory firm. he's also a former counterterrorism agent with the united states state department. thank you both for being here. >> thank you. >> pleasure. >> christopher, these men are known to french intelligence. will that make it easier to find them, though? >> well in some ways it does. i think one thing that people haven't realized so much in the united states is that during all this manhunt of the last 24 36 hours, the french authorities have been arresting the relatives of these people. they've put, i think, seven of them in prison or in jail detaining them and questioning

them for now several hours and probably will be for several days. >> they're arresting relatives of these two brothers? >> yeah. they're detaining them and questioning them. so they're holding them in jail while they search for these guys. because they believe that this is what they call a family cell. that's one reason it was hard for french intelligence to penetrate. when all the members of the cell are related to each other, it's not easy to run somebody in on them. as you would do with a more diffuse kind of cell. the kid you were talking about early, the 18-year-old who turned himself in he's actually related to the wife of the younger of these two brothers that have been named and whose pictures have been shown. so it's all in the family. and that's one of the things that the police are

concentrating on breaking into that family, getting people in that family to talk getting as much information as they can to go after them. >> interesting. fred, what would your take be on if this is a family cell. what problems does that raise and what advantages may that raise in terms of the manhunt and the pursuit of these guys? >> well i think christopher is spot on with that from an investigative perspective. in essence, you're going to have family members that are going to be somewhat reluctant to share what they may know. having said that i know from my dealings and working with the french in the past on various terrorism investigations, they are very good. they are very thorough. and i'm reasonably confident that they'll probably get two or three of the family members to talk at some point. i think at the end of the day as christopher noted so wisely that when you start looking at this, when you lack the human

intelligence to penetrate the cell, that's where the french lose that window and eyesight into what might be a foot. >> now, christopher, the brother who served the time in jail for terrorism was featured in a 2005 french television program. i want to play a british translation of part of that. >> translator: a point of view, a reference point, that is what this young man, sher eve kouachi was looking for. we can see him in these pictures taken in the summer of 2004. ♪ >> at the time he had the same sort of dreams as many in the area where he lived. he was a fan of rap music, more inclined to hang out with pretty young girls than to attend the mosque. in a few months he was to become a committed follower. during his lessons this is what he is said to sl learned. he told me that scripture offered proof of the goodness of suicide attacks. it's written in scripture that

it's good to die a martyr. cherif was quickly won over. he also wanted to go and fight. his preparation involved jogging sessions in the park during which he made fleeting contact wia self-professed arms expert who explained to him how to use a kalashnikov. thanks to fareed's advice my doubts evaporated. i was afraid but i didn't say so. he clearly influenced my decision to leave, he provided a justification for my coming death. sher eve kouachi is today in prison and alive. he perhaps owes this to the police who arrested him. >> this is very interesting to me. ten years ago now this was, they knew of these guys. ten years ago. and how does someone who appears to be very normal how does he become that radicalized? i mean what happens?

>> well you're talking about guys who don't have much direction in their lives and they're looking for purpose. you might ask yourself how do guys in the projects of the united states decide they're going to join a gang? why do they do that? why do they post facebook pictures of themselves with guns saying that they're going to go fight the other bad guys across the road? why do people do that? they do it because they want to belong to an organization. they want to belong to something that gives their life purpose and that gives them as young men a sense of power, a sense of meaning something in their own society, to their peers, and frankly, in many cases, to women. so i think that's the kind of mentality that you start with and that's the kind of thing that these islamic recruiters like the one talked about in the film, that's the kind of thing they exploit. i've seen it in places like gaza. i've seen it in many places in the arab world, the muslim world, and in europe as well. if you have a recruiter who goes

to these young men when says you don't know what you're doing, you don't know where you're going, you're smoking hash and delivering pizzas you have no purpose in your life. you don't even know how to be a man. i'm going to show you how to be a man. it's a very seductive line. you then say, you are going to go and protect oppressed people. our people the muslims around the world, they're oppressed, occupied, they're fighting occupation in iraq they're fighting occupation in palestine. you need to help them. and you can help them. you can devote your life to helping those people by waging violent jihad. again, it's a very seductive message for people who are lost, adrift, and wondering what to do with their lives. >> fred you know that's a very, very important point, isn't it? >> most certainly, it is reverend al. when you look at this in context, what's striking to me are the similarities to boston, where you have the younger brother, the older brother, the family nexus to this and at the

end of the day this is how these kinds of things develop, where you might have that influence and that family nexus to bring that person into the fold to go forward with this kind of plot. but let's be clear here this was a well orchestrated plot. these individuals conducted fairly effective preoperational surveillance to identify the french countersurveillance agents that were in place. they went into this operation with the intent to kill the cops first, so they could get to their target set. this is something that's right out of an al qaeda playbook that i've seen historically. and that's the frightening part of this kind of attack. >> christopher dickey and fred burton, thank you both for your time tonight. >> thank you. >> thank you, reverend al. still ahead, concerns about a potential act of terror and hate right here in the u.s. what the fbi's looking for in that apparent bombing attempt

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we're following a breaking story in colorado tonight. a potential act of domestic terror and hate. right here at home. the fbi is on the ground in colorado springs looking for a person of interest after a home-made bomb went off outside the local chapter of the naacp tuesday morning. >> the fbi tells news 5 an explosive device next to a gas can was detonated, but the can didn't explode. leaving singe marks against the building that houses mr. g's hair design studios and the local chapter of the naacp. federal agents are trying to figure out if this was a targeted attack. >> no one was hurt in the blast. but witnesses say the explosion rocked the neighborhood. >> first i heard the boom and felt the shake of my house. it was so hard i felt like it shook the whole wall. >> all of a sudden i heard this big boom. >> i was in the military.

it was pretty much the equivalent to ied. there was smoke everywhere. the building on the side was burned. >> the fbi doesn't say who was being targeted but a spokesperson said today it's certainly a possibility of being a hate crime or domestic terrorism. so who are they looking for? and how will they find them? joining me now, marq claxton, former new york police officer and director of the black law enforcement alliance. thank you for being here tonight. >> thank you rev. >> marq do you think this was a targeted attack? >> i think it's really too premature and too early in the investigation. i think there's a lot of work that needs to be done on the ground by federal authorities, investigators to really get a clear and concise picture. right now, they're in the stage of following the breadcrumbs, which is the available evidence before anything definitive can be indicated. >> the fbi is looking for a

person of interest. he's a balding white male about 40 years old. he was driving a white pickup truck from 2000 or older. the truck might have a missing license plate. marq how do they go about finding this person now? >> well they're going to do some very basic investigative r steps. of course the first thing they'll do is interview any potential witnesses and get an idea and lock in a time frame itself. then i'm sure they're going to be canvassing the area to see if there's any video evidence et cetera. if those two things don't pan out and become definitive i'm sure they'll be looking through the dmv databases and trying to isolate and lockdown a smaller group of possible suspects. >> the colorado springs gazette reports that the bomb went off behind the barber shop on the opposite side of the building from the naacp. does that tell you anything? >> well it just opens up a lot

of possibilities. that's why i say it's early in the investigation because you never know where the investigations will lead. the obligation of the people investigating it is to follow the evidence. you don't know what motive is. you don't know any specific and detailed information enough to be definitive about it. >> don't most people who do hate crimes with this wouldn't they have put a message somewhere? wouldn't it be for them to make a statement and we don't have anything like that yet. >> yes, that's commonly done and there's no concise statement about whether there was any message, indication, or anyone who wanted to take credit for it. and then there's also the possibility of the lone-wolf type of scenario someone with a personal grievance and is carrying out these type of terroristic acts. >> the barber who runs the shop was there when the explosive device went off. listen to how he describes it. >> i heard a tremendous

explosion. it came from the northeast side of the building. it was so loud it sounded like -- it almost sounded like it was in the building that's how loud it was. >> what other kind of information will they want from him or other witnesses? >> i'm sure they're doing a basic investigation which will include interviewing all the witnesses, all people connected with both the barber shop and the naacp office. they're volunteers et cetera. and they'll ask them any potential discrepancies, any beefes, any arguments, and threats -- >> did you see anyone in the area? >> did you see anyone in the area? this person was seen in the area. is he commonly in the area? have other people seen him? there's so much information they have yet to release, i'm sure they're business on the ground conducting this investigation. >> we'll certainly be watching. former nypd policeman marq claxton, thank you for your time this evening. >> thank you, rev.

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president obama's out on the road touting the economic comeback. earlier today he was in phoenix, talking about housing. wednesday he was in detroit pushing for the auto industry and manufacturing. the economy is looking up. unemployment is down to 5.8% a six-year low. we've seen 57 straight months of private sector job growth. and gas prices have dropped to $2.18 a gallon. all of this despite unprecedented obstruction from republicans in congress. that brings me to the funniest clip of mitch mcconnell you will ever see. check this out. >> after so many years of sluggish growth we're finally starting to see some economic data that can provide a glimmer of hope. the uptick appears to coincide

with the biggest political change of the obama administration's long tenure in washington. the expectation of a new republican congress. >> a new republican congress. oh i get it. he's saying the republicans saved the economy from the brink of collapse. [ laughter ] the democrats got a kick out of that too. the dnc released a statement saying, quote, ha-ha ha ha-ha ha-ha, that mitch mcconnell is one funny guy. oh yes, he is. he should try stand-up with that kind of material. joining me now is political strategist angela rye and

democratic strategist mark hannah. thank you both for being here tonight. >> thanks rev. >> mark i've heard some funny jokes, but how funny is mitch mcconnell taking credit for the economic recovery? >> it's hilarious. i think the funniest thing is that he said that with a straight face. what's he going to do next? >> that's good commeedian work. >> it just shows how diluted the republicans are. and they're trying to delude americans. he's been actively opposing all the economic priorities of the obama administration now flipping it around trying to take credit for it. let's not forget he also painted a very distopian picture of the economy when he was running on the campaign trail, running against alison grimes. so he was all doom and gloom then, but now that he's got his majority in the senate things are looking up. >> i heard you laughing loudly

angela rye. >> it's a good laugh. >> i'm laughing because i want you to read the quote again. he said ha-ha ha. anyway it's a laughing matter. it does not pass anyone's laugh test. i think the craziest thing is as you said at the outset we're talking almost five years of consistent job growth. we're talking 11 million jobs. we're talking the president doing this through almost solely executive action touring around talking to the private sector about how to partner to ensure there are jobs created. we're talking obamacare creating jobs and we're talking mitch mcconnell saying hell no we won't go the entire way. the funniest thing about this this guy was sworn in as majority leader yesterday. what could he have possibly done overnight? he definitely didn't get a bill to the desk of the president. this is ridiculous. and he's counting on people to not know the political process. he's counting on people to think that in november they were sworn in and they've done three

months of a lot of work. give me a break. >> now to the new republican congress ringing in the new year with some obamacare bashing. yes, speaker boehner is back to work and the first big move is to throw people off their health care plans. they passed a bill that changes the definition of a full workweek. one and a half million people would lose their plans. but guess what? none of it matters, a new gallup poll shows the uninsured rate is falling. we have the lowest percentage of americans without insurance in the last five years. see that steep drop-off? it started around the time obamacare became law. it's more than 4% in just a year. they're not looking at facts. >> the fantasy land of obamacare, the fatal conceit of the central planning behind this law is that in reality it just doesn't work. >> central planning did not work

in the ussr doesn't work in cuba and i wish you'd quit trying to place it in the united states. >> i know the harm that's being done by this act that is totally unaffordable and uncaring. >> angela mitch mcconnell has promised a vote but the president already said he'll veto it. why are they wasting time with this? >> i think they're using it as a messaging marker. there are pieces out today that talk about how they're trying to switch factually what this bill actually does. they're saying if we increase the full time workweek to 40 hours, then people will be or companies will be prevented from kicking people off health care plans. it does the exact opposite. the folks who were writing the obamacare law were smart, and they knew even at the time of writing the law, people were trying to cut people's hours down from 40 to 35 to 30 so they wouldn't have to provide health care coverage. that's what the 30-hour requirement does. so for them to go back and

reverse it is only protecting what rev? corporate interests. >> so they're trying to throw people off the health care plan? is that a political winner for them? because they don't have the votes to override a veto. >> no they don't. and i think it's a lot of political theater. there are some people who think that they'll try to catch it to some spending bill or some budget resolution and make it -- make the president have to sign it, but let's think of who will be hurt by this. people who have white collar jobs, who work 40 hours a week. they're not going to be cut down to 35 hours a week. the people that are going to be people working at walmart, large retail chains restaurants, fast-food workers, these people will be crippled by this law. the vulnerable people. and it's just outrageous, the amount of double-talking and the amount of people uninsured decreasing, i'm surprised he's

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we are back with our political panel, angela and mark. now to a surprise announcement today from a political power house. after more than throw decades in congress, senator barbara boxer announced she will not be running for re-election in 2016. but she did it in an unusual way. posting a video of herself being interviewed by her grandson.

>> um grandma, have you made a decision regarding the 2016 senate race? >> i have zach definitely. >> has your age played a role in your decision? >> finally the question the reporters love to ask. no, definitely not, zach. >> care to expand? >> here's the thing. some people are old at 40. and some people are young at 80. it depends on the person. as for me i feel as young as i did when i got elected. i was in my 50s when i got elected to the senate. >> i've known senator boxer for a long time. she's a fighter for fairness and she will be missed. barbara boxer was trending on twitter all day long. angela she's been a powerful voice in the u.s. senate hasn't she? >> she absolutely has been a powerful voice. a great ally from when i worked on the hill for the cbc. so absolutely. >> mark her presence has certainly been felt and i mean

now you have barbara boxer there -- i mean you have elizabeth warren there, but for a long time, barbara boxer had to carry that alone. >> yeah she is a progressive giant. she's a diminutive giant at under five feet tall. but she has big shoes to fill. she expanded hate crime legislation to gays and lesbians. >> a lot of energy a lot of fight, i certainly have respected her work and i am going to anxiously wait and see, a lot of talent out there will be probably considering to run to take her seat. we'll talk about that at another point. angela and mark, thank you for your time tonight. >> thanks, rev. >> we'll be right back. ♪ fifty omaha set hut ♪ ♪ losing feeling in my toes ♪ ♪ nothing beats that new car smell ♪ ♪ chicken parm you taste so good ♪

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tamir rice was the 12-year-old boy, shot and killed by police in november while holding a pellet gun. we've seen the surveillance video showing that police shoot him less than two seconds after arriving on the scene. it's already been reported that officers didn't try to help tamir, as he lay gravely injured on the ground. but now the extended video from after the shooting has been released. and it's raising even more questions. 90 seconds after the shooting tamir's 14-year-old sister comes running up and is taken down by an officer. she had heard the gun shots and had come to see what happened. she was handcuffed and placed in the back of a police cruiser just a few feet away from her brother lying on the ground. it's not until four minutes after the shooting until the

first aid is applied by an fbi agent who arrived on the scene. this is the first medical help the 12-year-old boy receives since he was shot. eight minutes after the shooting a paramedic arrives, while tamir rice is still alive on the ground. he didn't die from his wound until the next day. this is what his mother says happened when she arrived to the scene. >> i noticed my son laying down on the ground and i went charging and yelling and everything at the police because they wouldn't let me through, and then i seen my daughter in the back of the police car. the same car that the shooter got out of. as i was trying to get through to my son, the police told me to calm down or they will put me in the back of the police car. >> for many people what happened to tamir rice and his family, even after the shooting

reflects a larger problem, a problem of callousness, of insensitivity. in ferguson police left michael brown's body on the street for four hours. four hours. imagine what that was like for his family his friends, his neighbors. and here in new york many were shocked by the casual way eric garner was treated in the minutes after the chokehold that led to his death. we need to change this. we need a positive way forward, because both police and the communities they serve have so much at stake. think about the two new york police officers who went above and beyond the call of duty this week to investigate a robbery. their shift was over. they didn't have to respond. but they did. and were shot and wounded for their bravery. one officer was released from the hospital yesterday. the other is still hospitalized and will need extensive physical

therapy. police officers risk their lives every day and we must respect how they serve and protect the community. at the same time the people in those communities need to feel that they also have the respect from the police. their compassion, their humanity and that's the conversation we need to have. we can't just turn our backs on it. ultimately, police and citizens need to be open to find common ground. and we'll only get there by having the courage to have an honest conversation. and what everyone can do to help make this dream of police-community unity a reality. no name-calling. no blame-game. no finger-pointing. but an honest conversation where we really discuss the problems

and with mutual respect and the upholding of the law for all, and respect for all lives. thanks for watching. i'm al sharpton. "hardball" starts right now. still out there. let's play "hardball." ♪ ♪ good evening, i'm chris matthews out in los angeles. the manhunt continues tonight for the two men believed to have carried out the deadly terror attack in paris. the men are brothers both in their early 30s, born in paris to algerian born parents. one of them was convicted in 2008 for recruiting muslims to fight in iraq. there are reports that one of the brothers got training from al qaeda in yemen in 2011.