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hayat boumeddiene. we have new closed circuit tv footage showing her crossing out of the country. she's in istanbul at passport control. turkey being one of the major getways into syria, calling into question whether there are going to be obstacles to even finding her if she crosses over that border. we also have an international breaking security story, a story about the twitter of centcom following that in washington for us is jim miklaszewski. what's the latest you have? >> ronan, it's not only the twitter account of centcom that has apparently been hacked but also centcom's youtube account as well. according to senior defense officials here the centcom twitter account has clearly been hacked. under the #cybercaliphate, sending messages such as american soldiers we're coming
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watch your back isis. we won't stop. we know everything about you, your wifs and children. they've also posted about a half dozen names various generals and their business phone numbers and addresses. officials here tell us the centcom twitter account and youtube account are not classified sites. so there's apparently who knows, but there's apparently at this point no threat to any classified information. but it's not clear what if anything centcom is able to do about it calls there indicate that everybody there is frantically trying to figure out how to deal with the situation, this hacking of the centcom twitter site has been going on for well over 20 25 minutes,
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ronan. >> brand-new kinds of security fears in this social media age. thank you so much jim miklaszewski. in france we're following that manhunt for boumeddiene. ron allen has been following that through the day. we've seen the new footage, ron. >> we believe she's in turkey and then in syria. we believe that all of this happened before the attacks here, which suggest that there was a lot of planning which we know, and so it complicates the situation because obviously the authorities here are trying to figure out what connections the gunmen and their accomplishes have that are deep in this community. and how they enraffle the network. she's in syria and probably slim to none chances of finding her. a widow of a martyr by isis --
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>> how do you attempt to find someone once they crossed over? >> i don't think you can -- it would be extraordinarily difficult. given this at this point there are much bigger problems in syria that the united states and france and allies are trying to solve. that's not to say that they would not try to find this woman. >> turkey knows a lot about her. they were able to track her at some point from the second of january to crossing the border around the 8th. she's with other people. we don't know who they are but the turks do. based on what they know they may be able to find her or more about her. but the important thing is to find out as much as they can about her and the gunmen who carried out attacks to make sure nothing else will happen soon and understand how could this have happened when so many of these people are under surveillance, known to intelligence authorities and some cases served time in prison even. if you don't know about them what's happening with the people that you're following and the
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people you don't know about. >> we understand you have another intelligence update about the mentors of the kouachi brothers. >> this is an imam who cherif met in prison and may have been a mentor or someone who indoctrinated him and began this process that took him to where he got to carry out these attacks. there may be other accomplices out there. french authorities are looking for another accomplice and without revealing a lot of information about who that person may be or who or what role that person or persons may have played in all of this. remember, the attacks they were very complicated. they went to the magazine on a particular day. the editorial meeting happens once a week -- >> we've heard they called people by name in that meeting. >> there's some indication they knew they would be in the room all together their target. how did they know that? we thought in the beginning there was a driver who drove a
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getaway car but apparently not, just the two of them in a car. where did they get the vehicle or weaponry from? we know there are guns coming in from all over europe. how did they get that and pay for all of this? and with boumeddiene, who bought the plane ticket? how did she use apparently a false name? how is all of that carried out and executed. so again, this is -- this all suggests a level of sophistication that's important and significant. and one of the most disturbing aspects of this whole episode is that again, there was a massive breakdown of security of intelligence. these people were known. how could they get away with it? what could be coming next? >> so many security holes troubling and revealed by this. thanks for following that. we'll be keeping tabs throughout the hour. new information coming in as we just heard from ron. i want to tape ake a moment to look back at the historic moment that
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took place here any place day lae la republique republique. we're hearing there were big numbers, maybe even bigger than we ever expected. the french government estimating 3.7 million. they've also released statements saying, yes it's uncountable but that's their estimate. saying this is the biggest government that the french republic has ever seen. i was there and i heard from a lot of people on the ground why they came out. >> we're free to do what we want to do and don't want this to change. this is how the country is. no one can change this. >> i'm very proud to be french today and this act of terrorism, i just here to say we are free. >> men and women joined by world
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leaders around the world. up to 45 world leaders in attendance yesterday. david cameron, angela merkel and closely watched duo of benjamin netanyahu and abbas. >> you were here at the beginning, just over two miles that way at the end of the rally. >> the entire road was full. >> a sea of people a slow moving river because the amount of people the sheer numbers it took hours for the march to begin and finish. it was interesting that you were mentioning earlier the je suis charlie, in memory of those killed in the "charlie hebdo" incident. it's interesting to see the evolution. you see as these atrocities continued overlast week.
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you see in memory of the police officer who was killed i am the police. this is just normal people all coming together to say we are these people. we are france. so it was ab an interesting march because on one hand you're remembering those who are killed here. on other hand celebrating your freedom. i'm free to do this, we're free as french people to walk the streets and we have freedom of expression and freedom of press. it was mixed emotions down there. you heard the occasional applause occasional chant, but as the night went on there were letting these sky lanterns off with candles floating in the sky to big cheers and spelling out solidarity in colored lights. it was a celebration of our freedom for the french people's freedoms here as well as we're remembering those who perished in these terrible attacks. >> a heavy set of underlying concerns there.
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people still aching in this country and also a celebratory moment. thank you franklin bell. one of the things people were reactsing to who wasn't in attendance, that includes president obama and secretary of state kerry. kerry did turn out to make comments and we saw officials marching with the french ambassador in washington. everyone here that i spoke to personally said they understood the limitations of schedule that led to that. it's still leading to a great deal of surprise around the world and a lot of questions. here's secretary kerry answering some of those. >> i want to emphasize that -- that the relationship with france is not about one day or one particular moment. it's an ongoing long-time relationship that is deeply deeply based in the shared
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values and particularly the commitment that we share, the freedom of expression. >> chris jansing is following the u.s. reaction to this important moment in france. chris, president obama did come out and say america's old eflt ally, how he described the relationship. there's a lot of pressure for him to stand in solidarity do you think he's done that to the satisfaction of officials you've talked to in the administration? >> reporter: in terms of people in the administration yes, they are pushing back against this criticism. for a number of reasons, one, they say where it really counts in terms of alliance with france in sending attorney general eric holder to meet with officials and offering all support to their counterterror efforts. the united states has stood solidly with france. this obviously though is a highly symbolic moment and you mention the numbered, 3. million people across france and even more in the u.s. in washington, d.c. there was a march yesterday and
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assistant assistant of state did march in it. yesterday it was the u.s. ambassador. some questions especially about eric holder already there. why after his meetings with french officials he decided -- and also appearing on the morning shows, why he decided to come back. but again, administration officials say where it counts the most the president and the administration stands firmly with france. ronan? >> and of course eric holder was here. although he wasn't at the rally. it's important to note as well. chris, i also wanted to get an update on the latest threats out of isis we're hearing new things on that front? >> in addition to the counter terrorism aspects of this that the united states is offering assistance to there's a lot that the united states learns. every time there's an incident like this there's a new evaluation of it. they also look at what happened
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here and are there lessons to be learn here in the united states. next month the white house is going to be hosting a delayed summit to counter extremism. they also have a pilot programs up and running in cities like boston and los angeles, looking ats ways for localities to deal with this issue because one of the things that eric holder said yesterday and he has said this before and so has the president. what keeps him up at night is this lone wolf not necessarily someone who is from al qaeda or someone who is isis but someone who is flying either below the radar or who has fallen off the radar and so one of things that the white house is pointing to a summit they are going to have although we don't know next month who's going to be coming or the details of what the itinerary will be. ronan? >> chris, thank you so much for that update. in the wake of these latest
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account and someone hacked their twitter account. this isn't centcom being hacked just the accounts they have on those sites like you or i might have those sites. it could be anybody. most likely it's a kid playing politics making it a big deal. this is more akin to graffiti to anything else. they are posting annoying things on the site just like they might if they hacked you. we don't know what this is but big deal probably not. >> and bruce, are we hearing any response at out of centcom? >> we haven't yesterday, cent com is going to issue a statement, probably won't tell us much. if i was to guess, a fishing attack e-mail claiming to be from twitter saying there's a problem, fake url and log in and now the hacker has your password. maybe did that for youtube also
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or centcom had the same pass word for both sides. this is embarrassing. it shouldn't happen but it does happen and hope flip the companies will restore the rightful logins and passwords to people quickly. >> all right, thank you so much bruce, for your take on that. obviously a period in which we've seen so many cyber security threats, this is a brand-new front in that. we'll follow this throughout the hour. first, i want to go back to the security threats here in france. this is a story developing very very fast. i want to go to an interview that i did over the weekend with the top terrorism judge at one point in france. he's retired now but told me that he had a very personal link to the kouachi brothers. take a listen i think we have that sound. >> at that point he was not very high profile figures, was not very radicals. looked like petty criminals.
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but he was involved in a very dangerous plot and cell. this cell is intending to carry out -- >> that was the former top terror judge in france telling me about his experience being the man who charged cherif kouachi and saw him get out of prison. a number of interesting pit falls, including the radicalizing effect of prison. all of france is dealing with that question of radicalization. there are fears about various communities in this country and the potential for more sleeper cells to emerge and of course the internet connecting and more europeans around the world, particularly young disenfranchised europeans with terror cells with increasing ease. i want to talk to haras rafiq, the u.k. a country that dealt with a lot of home grown terror
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threats. i want to talk about new intelligence that we're getting about an warwar al awlaki and his link to the kouachi brothers. >> we know the brothers seem to have gone out to yemen ach the younger brother, cherif was released from prison in 2008 and anwar al awlaki was one of the key prop gators of digital radicalization and highly likely he would have been one of the people that would have ideologually radicalized these people to the point they believed the west was at war with islam and it was their duty to fight back. certainly when they were in yemen, they would have been some level of either direct contact or contact with people that know him as well as being online as well. >> and what is does this illustrate about his ongoing legacy and swaying power for
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potential young recruits around countries like france? >> i think one of the things that -- one of the mistakes that many people made we've been warning about this for years, there has been an assumption in the past once a key influ ent shal radicalizing anwar al awlaki and osama bin laden, flz a view because they are no longer year job done is job over and mission is accomplished. i think one of the things we now are finding is that it's not -- just by killing people and actually killing the heads, we're not tackling the ideology and not tackling the message and narratives of the very things and ideas that drive people down these paths in the first place. that's a huge missing link from what france has been doing and number of other countries, including the u.s. have been doing certainly for the last few
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years. >> and haras, what about the radicalizing influence of prison. we're hearing some may have met while in prison. >> i think there seem to be two different schools of thoughts on what actually has to do with people who have been put in prison. the first one is should people be left out in the general public of the general sort -- not general public the general domain with the view that people who are not radicalized will come into contact with other people who are radicalized and the effect would be that people will drop some of their jihadi islamist doctrines. the other school of thought, we keep them in isolation. the first school of thought being used openly and without challenge, people are being radicalized in prison. rather than actually people disavowing their theology and
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ideology they are actually radicalizing others. i think that a lot more needs to be done in france and other countries as in the u.k. to start implementing deradicalization and countering messages in prison as well as outside of prison as well. >> right. thank you so much, haras, really appreciate your insights on this. we're going to continue to have live breaking updates from paris here. don't go away. up next we actually look at something farther afield but closer to home in the united states. hollywood reacting and making interesting statements over the weekend that stand in solidarity with france. how are the french reacting next?
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moment. of course the big question here why president obama wasn't at the paris rally. i spoke to a lot of individuals on the ground here who said they understood, they were grateful that eric holder was here for meetings. nevertheless, the secretary of state and president and others faced tough questions about exactly who was at that rally and for those who weren't, why they weren't. the president signed a condolence book at the french embassy, secretary kerry did the same. secretary kerry also said that victoria new lynn had attended the rally and had a little egg on his face when he had to retract that she in fact was at the march with the french ambassador in washington. we're watching the white house briefing room. i believe he has walked up to the podium now, is that correct? and we're waiting for what should be a round of questions. we don't have return here but i'm hearing that he will be up shortly, about the response from the u.s.
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of course, the substantive thing to come out of the last few days, upcoming conference in february announced by eric holder during his meetings here that should address so many of the issues that seem to underpin the attacks here radicalization, kind of security cooperation that could prevent the radicalization between france and u.s. and other allies. we know there was a ministerial meeting ahead of the major rally. we're hearing off the top he's probably going to take a number of questions about the centcom hacking, contributing to an atmosphere in which the white house is addressing people for terror threats both physical and cyber. the status of the briefing room if i can get an update we're still waiting for him to start taking questions. we have nothing yet. we've been given a warning four minutes back he'll be walking out to address this con influence of major security questions, both about the cyber attack on centcom and the
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situation in france. two updates on that front. the latest we're hearing on the centcom attack not only the twitter handle was hacked but now just confirmed by nbc news the youtube page of centcom. we haven't gotten word of what the fallout is or response from centcom but that's going to be a major theme of today's briefing. people still playing tribute at the place de la republique. security forces are dispatched around the country -- i'm just getting in my ear that we're going to have an update from jim miklaszewski at the pentagon following all day the updates on the centcom hackings. do we have jim at the pentagon? >> absolutely ronan. here at the pentagon, officials say it is clear that two of the centcom sites, the twitter and youtube sites used by centcom to
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communicate general information to the public have been compromised. those sites have now been taken down by centcom. while they try to figure out where and what to do next. now, according to officials, none of the information that was posted by the hackers who went under the #cybercaliphate was classified. there were names and numbers of generals but those are public information. back to you, ronan. >> thank you for that update. we're hearing that josh earnest is stepping to the podium there. we going to the briefing room now. >> i expect we'll have a.m. many opportunity to talk about that over the course of the briefing today. however, before we do let me note something else important that happened. which is that house republicans put forward department of homeland security funding legislation through the end of fiscal year 2015. unfortunately republicans have also unveiled plans to muck
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around with that legislation. this is legislation that funds our efforts to protect our ports and borders. it provides aviation security. it bolsters our cyber security. it coordinates with state and local authorities across the country and yes, it enforces our immigration laws. there's never a good time for republicans to do something like this. but right now it seems like a particularly bad time for them to do so. republicans have said they are doing this because they have a political or idealogical objection to president's executive action on immigration. let me repeat what you've heard me say before. the president's plan would bring badly needed accountability to our immigration system by requiring undocumented workers -- immigrants in the country more than five years to come out of the shad dois get right with the law and submit to a background check and pay taxes. the republican plan would undo all of that and send the country back in the direction of doing nothing, which is something that
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no less than authority that marco rubio has said is a.m.mnestyamnesty. so with that jim, do you want to get started with questions today. >> just to follow up on that the president would veto this legislation that the house is assembling. >> we've made he clear dating back to last fall the president would oppose any legislative effort to undermine the executive actions i took to add greater accountability to our immigration system. >> veto. >> yes. >> can you tell us anything about this hacking of centcom? do you have any information on it? >> jim, i don't have a lot of information on this. it just occurred within the last hour or so. i can tell you this is something that we're obviously looking into and something we take seriously. however, a note of caution to
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folks covering the story o there's a significant difference between what is a large data breach and hacking of a twitter account. we're still examining and investigating the extent of this incident but i don't have any information beyond that for you. >> on the topic du jour why did president obama or vice president biden or eric holder attend the paris solidarity march? >> well, jim, i can tell you what was on the television screens that people across this country and i think even across the globe was a remarkable display of unity by the french people in the face of these terrible terror attacks. and the way that country has come together i do think struck a chord and inspired people all across the world and throughout this country.
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it was a remarkable display. there were also a number of other world leaders who were there to participate and show support as well. and some have asked whether or not the united states should have sent someone with a higher profile than the ambassador to france. and i think it's fair to say we should have sent someone with a higher profile to be there. that said there's no doubt that the american people and this administration stand four square behind our allies in france as they face down this threat. that was evident throughout last week when you saw that the president's counterterrorism adviser was in touch with the french counterpart minutes after reports of this terror attack first emerged. you saw later in the day that the president of united states telephoned president hollande not just to express condolences
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but pledge any needed cooperation and assistance to conduct the investigation and bring to justice those responsible for those terror attacks. i can tell you that kind of coordination that is the backbone of the strong relationship between the united states and france continues. it continued throughout the weekend and continues today. in fact i can tell you the french ambassador to the united states will be here at the white house later today to meet with lisa monaco who is the president's top counterterrorism adviser. >> how much higher profile do you think should have -- does the president think should have been there? eric holder was in the city did television talk shows that morning. should he have been the person representing the u.s.? at what level would the president has been satisfied with a presence? >> i can tell you had the circumstances been a little bit different, i think the president himself would have liked to have had the opportunity to be there. the fact is this is obviously a martha the planning for which
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only began on friday night. and 36 hours later it had begin, the security requirements around a presidential visit or vice president presidential visit or significant. and i think in a situation like this they typically have a pretty significant impact on the other citizens who are trying in a large public event like this. we talk about this a lot when it comes to the president attending a basketball game. but the fact of the matter is there were not just thousands of people at the event, there are millions. there wasn't just an arena that needed to be secured but a largeout door area that poses significant security challenges. i'm confident that the professionals at the secret service could overcome those challenges, but it would have been very difficult to do so without impacting the ability of common citizens to participate in the march. after all, what i think was so
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impressive about this display, it demonstrated the unity of the french people. that is something that we are always mindful of in situations like this. those trying to attend an event, when the purpose is to demonstrate the unity of spirit and purpose of the people who are coming together. >> this is a consideration of perhaps having had a more prominent presence there, is that something that just being considered at the white house today or something you considered doing on friday when you first knew that this was going to happen? >> i'm not going to unpack all of the planning and discussions that went into this. but i think, suffice it to say, there should not be and is not any doubt in the minds of the people in france or people around the world and certainly not among our enemies about how
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committed to a strong relationship that the united states is with france and committed to the same kinds of values that they are, i think in some ways most importantly the people who understand this best of all are the french people themselves. i did note that the french ambassador was on television earlier today in which he described the french people as overwhelmed by the expression of solidarity and grief from all corners of the american people including from the highest levels of the administration. >> steve? >> just to follow up a little bit. did you consider having the president go or was it something just developing too late to actually pull together i'm not going to be in a position to unpack the scheduling planning discussions that we have here. but what i can tell you, there's some who have suggested that the u.s. presence at the march had been represented by somebody without a higher profile than the ambassador to france.
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and you know i guess what i'm saying is that we here at the white house agree is that somebody with a higher profile should have also included -- >> did the french ask you to come? >> steve, i'm not aware of all of the conversations that may have occurred between french officials and american officials here here. >> is this criticism fair? >> criticism from who? >> from everybody -- >> nobody comes to mind. go ahead, steve, it's your turn to ask the question. >> jake tapper did have criticism, i saw that too. >> marco rubio. >> and i mean there are other republicans too. >> so steve, you're asking -- >> is this criticism fair? >> it is certainly a free country and people have the opportunity to subject the elected officials to make it
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clear when they disagree with a decision or an action that's taken by the administration and i wouldn't quibble with their right to do so. to the extent there are those out there saying that the administration should have sent someone with a high he profile to participate in the march, i guess what i'm saying is that we agree that we should have sent someone with a higher profile. again, in addition to the ambassador to france. >> president hollande called the terror attacks an act of war. how does this change your attitude towards going after islamic state. are the french going to be stronger partners? how do you interpret that? >> there's an important leap made in the construct of the question there still is an investigation ongoing to determine exactly what the links were between these individuals who are responsible for these terror attacks in france and their communications and support
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from extremists in other locations around the globe. there's some public reporting that i'm referring to that indicates that these individuals have links to or traveled to yemen. i know there's a video we're reviewing here in which terrorists indicate sympathy and support from isil we're trying to assist the french as they take the lead on the investigation, as they should about who was responsible and what kind of support they had and what links that has to other extremist groups around the world. >> okay. >> laura? >> thank you. >> what was the feeling when he was looking at all of those american -- carrying the demonstration for hours? >> laura, i don't know how much of the march the president
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watched on television. the comments itch reiterated the rather expressive display of unity from the french people is something the president made note of as well. and these are messages that were most importantly sent by the citizens of france but they were echoed by people across the globe. there are many ways people could demonstrate those expressions of support, everything from an open-ed to a tweet, speech at the golden globes awards last night. i think that's indicative of the kind of solidarity that the american people feel with our allies in france not just because of the terrible tragedy they've endured, but because of the kinds of values they fight for. these are the same kinds of values we hold dear in this country. the bond between the united states is so strong today. >> when the demonstration began at 1:00 in the afternoon, the
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white house sent a message 7:00 here saying there would be a summit to fight violence extremism. what is your point there? what do you expect from the summit? >> well, let me say a couple of things about that. this effort to counter violent extremism is something we've talked about quite a bit over the years. i think it's long become a focal point to the terrorism strategy. the other thing we would anticipate to discuss in the context of the summit is to invite leaders from the private sector and technology community to discuss how extremists are using social media platforms to try to inspire acts of violence. and inspire extremism, expressions of extremism by other people. we want to talk about strategies that we can employ to better
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promote inclusion and resilience in communities across the country. one of the things we would expect to talk about in the summit like this would be to highlight the experience of some pilot programs that have been operating in cities like boston and los angeles and minneapolis st. paul area. local officials have really employed some pioneering techniques to try to work very closely in their communities to again, root out efforts to inspire and recruit extreme ifltists in a way that's not good for the country or communities where it may be occurring. there are very interesting innovative techniques being employed and we want to share the best practices with other local officials who participate in the summit. >> when you speak about the battle against islamist extremism -- >> all forms of violent extremism would be discussed in the context of the summit but
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obviously the threat that we see from violent extremism that's in which individuals invoke the name of islam, otherwise peaceful religion as they carry out attacks would certainly be obviously a priority in the discussion here. >> josh why wouldn't you use the phrase right there that we are going to take on islamic extremism. you said all forms of violent extremism. >> you asked what we would discuss and all forms of violent xreexism would be discussed and the most potent and certainly the most graphic display we've seen in recent days is motivated by individuals that seem to invoke the name of islam to carry out violent attacks and that's something we want to work very hard to counter and mitigate. we have a strategy we've been discussing for some time to do that. >> the most potent form of extremism. why isn't the summit on countering islamic extremism?
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>> violent extremism is something we want to be focused on. it's not just -- it's not just islamic -- >> isn't the threat through them that it's islamic extremism? >> those example you cite are examples of individuals who cite islam as they carry out acts of violence. there's no arguing that. >> you said several times we should have sent someone higher than the ambassador. >> a higher profile than the ambassador, that's correct. >> question, why didn't you? >> i tried to describe to you exactly the situation here. that we're talking about a martha came together with essentially 36 hours notice. and a martha occurred outdoors with an obviously very large number of people who participated. we are mindful, any time the president goes to a public
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place, that we don't want do -- we want to mitigate the impact that the security precautions would have on those participating in the public event. there's no doubt that had the president or vice president on this very short time frame gone to participate in this event that took place outdoors with more than a million people in attendance, that it would have significantly impacted the ability of those attending the march to participate in the way they did yesterday. >> the president's safety is of utmost not an issue at all, of course security is important. how do you explain then that the israeli prime minister made it there. he's a huge target obviously, unfortunately. >> i'll allow the israelis to discuss what security measures they had in place. >> dozens of leaders, not america but very important -- how did they make it there? >> you should talk to them about the security precautions in place. you've been to enough events where the president is attending a conference or summit with other world leelders you have
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seen firsthand that the security precautions in place for the president of the united states true of previous presidents too are sometimes more honorous -- >> and the man delldela funeral, he dies and you wants to be there. you made it. how did that come together? >> the difference with president mandela, there had been discussions ongoing for frankly a number of years about the ceremony that would take place in the event of his death. and so there was -- a much clearer plan already in place that could be followed for executing that event on a short time frame. there was no in place because i don't anybody contemplated the type of attack in paris. >> you said the president personally would have like the to have gone. what was he doing on sunday? we haven't gotten an accounting what the president did on sunday? >> i haven't spoken to the president what he did yesterday? >> you obviously prepared for
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this and said many times most transparent administration. what was the president doing? >> i guess i prepared for a lot of questions but not a question based on what the president was actually doing. >> attorney general eric holder was in paris, they put out a statement, he had very important meetings and one would assume the french officials who attended those meetings some of them went to the rally and the attorney general's office says he has to get back to washington on sunday afternoon. that is one of the reasons why he couldn't make the route. why couldn't the attorney general? there was no issue of security was already in place. >> i'm not aware of the details of the attorney general's schedule for yesterday. but if you are asking whether or not somebody like the attorney general should have attended or been asked by the white house to attend, what i'm telling you, yes, we believe somebody with a higher profile should have been asked to attend. >> how about the rally in d.c.? a march from the museum to the french embassy, we should note
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the president did go to the embassy last week and expressed sold dart solidarity with the french streets of d.c. but the white house chief of staff, secretary, how come you didn't have someone in d.c. at a rally. >> i know there were a number of administration officials that did participate -- or in that march. and i think a lot of them would have done so even if they weren't members of the administration. but i can tell you, ed for all of the talk, there is no doubt and there should be no doubt about this commitment of the administration and the american people to standing shoulder to shoulder with our allies in france as they deal with the aftermath of these terrible terror attacks and we continue to fight for the freedom we hold so clear on both sides of the country. justin. >> i want to talk about the anti-extremist summit.
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it was originally in october and it was delayed a couple of times. can you talk about why it was delayed or didn't happen back in october? >> there have been a number of discussions about how exactly -- about how this would come together and trying to schedule among state and local leaders, leaders in the private sector community leaders from other places across the country is difficult. but i guess i can say that -- what i would say is that this is something we've been focused on for quite sometime. this notion of countering violent extremism has been a central focal point of our counter-terrorism strategy for a long time, dating back to february of 2010 when then assistant to the president for homeland security john brennan gave a speech at the islamic center and the islam auic law
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student center with they talked about the need to work closely with lawmaker and community leaders to try to counter that message. >> so the scheduling incident at home you were able to corral everybody or was paris an impetuous to enabled you to bring people in for this meeting next month? >> i guess what i would say -- >> that was josh earnest at the white house answering tough questions. briefly mentioning the unfolding of the sitcom hacking and getting pummelled over and over again on the lack of high level representation at the rally that played out at this very site yesterday where leaders from around the world, more than 40 of them were here. and president obama was absent and that was the crux of the inquiries today at the white house. point blank, josh earnest said there should have been a higher level official at the rally and when asked why that wouldn't happen he said because there was security issues and set up
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within 36 hours and the president's presence would disrupt everything and that is not what they wanted to do. i want to go to my guest in paris. you are simmone bendon and involved with the jewish community here. and one thing we've heard from the officials throughout the story is the deep fears and feelings of insecurity among so much french people who are jewish. i spent some time in a number of jewish neighborhoods and heard that first-hand saw people with barbed doors and people going about their lives and contemplating leaving. that is not uncommon. nearly 7,000 french jews have emigrated to israel just in 2014. where do you see that trend going simone? >> it will depend on how we deal with the issue from now. was it just one day or one wake-up call that lasted one day or will it be translated into
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concrete policy that will change the lives of jews here in france and the situation for jewish people have been very difficult for the last 14 years. we've had anti-semitism, and acts over 90% over the past year. it will depend on how the government will deal with this and french society will make of this. >> and what do you make of benjamin netanyahu's statement that french jews are welcome there and do you think that is a call for mass exodus or do you think that is a supportive statement. >> i think the jews know they can go to israel if they want to. they don't need benjamin netanyahu to tell them. they know if. and if people want to leave to israel for ideological or religious reasons, that is great. but to have them leave out of fear is problematic. so the country and the
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government needs to make sure they are safe here. >> and what is the context to do that and what is your group advocating for here? >> we have worked with the government for quite a while and have alerted the government for years that much more needs to be done. a lot needs to be done in terms of counter radicalization and in prison and on social media. we have more than 1,000 jihadi fighters from advance that are involved in iraq and syria. much more needs to be done on that end. a lot needs to be done in terms of education and the country needs to frankly wake up. we need to have a movement just as we did yesterday all of the time. >> and we've been seeing that moment loud and clear. thank you simone. very important facet that we'll keep covering. thank you for being with us on a hectic news day. we've just conducted an interview with one of the central figures from charlie
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hebdo and involving a new issue that will take a stand that led to this attack. take a listen. >> the survivors are in shock, for sure. the first day it was difficult for them to work and just focus. there are very few now, but because they knew they wanted to drew and about those crazy stupid guys that can kill for a cartoon, they can start again to work. >> in her first u.s. media interview and we'll have that coming up in time time on msnbc in full. thank you all of you so much. we'll have much more on this program tomorrow. stay with us. we are continuing to cover this story here in france. thank you so much for joining. ♪ stouffer's mac and cheese
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good afternoon, this is the reid report and i'm joy reid. we have breaking news where it appears there is another hack. what do we know? >> so far we know that u.s. military officials and defense officials confirm that the central command down there in tampa, florida which is in charge of the wars against isis and afghanistan, that the twitter and you tube accounts were attacked by cyber callive ate. now u.s. military and d.o.d. officials stress these are public accounts accounts set up to provide general information to the general public about
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