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and devastating if released. but officials here say that this group, unknown hacking group that hacked into social media, twitter and the you tube accounts, that they did not have any access whatsoever to any kind of classified information. but in -- they had control essentially of cent-com's twitter account for 20 to 30 minutes and posting messages like american soldier, we are coming watch your back. we won't stop. we know everything about you, your wives and children. but officials here are characterizing this as a huge embarrassment and saying it nothing more than a cyber prank, according to them. but nevertheless, the defense department has reached out to both twitter and you tube to go ahead and look at all of the military and d.o.d. military
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accounts on twitter and you tube to determine if there is any kind of vulnerability. clearly in this case there was and it is still unclear exactly how -- whoever these people are -- got into that account, krystle. >> jim thanks so much. and joining us now is terrorism analyst. >> from flash point global partners evan thank you for joining us. so what do we know about the attack? >> cyber caliphate, we've known about them for months. they are using a sphere phishing attack which means they send out e-mails in cyber command and get their credentials and stealing their twitter and you tube credentials. this won't end up with the military falling apart. this is not going to end up with classified information falling into the wrong hands. the folks did tweet out some of
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the things they picked up but these were unclassified documents. so in terms of what kind of threat do they represent? it is special embarrassing but nobody is going to lose their life over this. and the folks -- it is disturbing to see pro-isis hackers but this is not a real threat to us and not a very sophisticated threat to us. >> and so given all of that and this kind of hacking depends on the actual security of the passwords for only the social media account, does it tell us anything meaningful about cent-com security? >> it could say that some of the members in the cent com are not being careful enough about their accounts and it is quite embarrassing. but this has happened to media companies, everything from the times on down. and you saw this with the syrian army. it was embarrassing but it
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didn't create long-term damage. it was more like publicity. one of the concerns is that some of the people that are recruiting for this may have some tangential affiliation with isis and one of the people recruiting for this group was reported to have -- a british hacker was reported to have been killed in a drone strike in syria in the past few days. whether or not that actually happened, what his exact role in this is it is not clear. but it is disturbing the idea that in the future you could have groups with actual sophisticated capabilities carrying out attacks on behalf of isis. >> so far have we had any of the groups or the hacking groups able to have any impact? >> oh,ally you've seen -- occasionally you see them steal credit cards israeli or american credit card numbers. a few years ago there was a group that stole the personal ads from a military romance site. and it is disturbing the idea that -- the i.d. of soldiers out
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there on the internet but nobody has lost their life because aft tacks yet. there has been no major infrastructure damage or no leak of any highly classified information. you don't see drones taken over by hackers. that might happen in the future. there are people out there with the capabilities to do that. so far they haven't joined isis and aren't supporting isis. let's hope that is a tipping trend. continuing trend >> and you have the attack with one individual thinking this is a joke and you have the isis videos released over the weekend and i heard you speaking on an earlier show this could be one individual and not necessarily isis. and so speak about the hack of the computer and what we have to face. >> about three years ago, al
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qaeda central leadership put out a video that said you are only responsible for yourself. and they went through hackers that had managed to break into the ppt and other sensitive commuter systems and they said not everyone can get to a training camp or knows how to fire a weapon or suitable for a battlefield. but if you have specialized capabilities if you have the ability to break into a sensitive computer system and wreak tremendous damage, we want that. that is great. that is exactly what you should be doing. i guess the issue here is that the desire for al qaeda or for isis to recruit these kind of people they haven't really reached that level of capability yet. it might be on its way. but so far, thankfully people that are smart enough that have those kind of capabilities understand also that isis is not a great group. >> thankfully for that. talk to us about the technique that they use. sphere phishing and how does that work and how can we protect
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ourselves and if you can get the social media passwords, do you have access to e-mail accounts? >> well you get the e-mails all of the time and i'm sure you say them, this is a message from google saying someone has broken into your account, click on this link and we'll fix it. and messages from banks saying click on this and we'll fix it. there are fraudulent e-mails sent out by other folks. and when you click on the links and put into the information and here is my e-mail address and password et cetera et cetera you've just given them all of the credentials they needed to break into your account. even if you just give them part of your social security number or date of birth, because with a lot of the password re-set functions with twitter and you tube and e-mail a lot of that is premised on just having your middle initial or name and date of birth and that means it doesn't take a lot for the hackers to take the information and it snow balls and they get access to one social media
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account and then another and another. again, it is very embarrassing particularly when it is major media companies and the u.s. government. does it mean the world is coming to an end and the sky is falling? no. let's recognize what this is. it may be that this was the hackers that broke into sony. we don't know. but once you get access to pass words there is no telling what else is in there. credit card numbers, personal information, other accounts with access information. that is the problem, the fruit of poisonous tree. if they get access to one account that can lead to a variety of other ways into your computer life or the network of a sensitive target. >> we'll be thankful this is just an embarrassment. thank you so much. we appreciate it. and up next the other developing story, the white house responds to critics for a
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hayat boumeddiene is believed to be under the protection of isis in syria. here is turkish officials believing it is her at istanbul on january 2nd. they believe she crossed on thursday and has not been heard from. her common law husband amedy coulibaly claimed allegiance to isis and theco achy brothers are connected with al qaeda in yemen. and after d.c. failed to send one high ranking recognizable face to a march in paris against terrorism, nearly 4 million people gathered in france this weekend and more than a million in paris alone, the largest in the capital since the liberation from nazi germany. 44 world leaders were there, including angela merkel
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benjamin netanyahu. but no obama, no biden, no john kerry. this afternoon white house press secretary josh earnest responded. >> i think it is fair to say we should have sent someone with a higher profile to be there. that said there is no doubt that the american people and this administration stand four square behind our allies in france as they face down this threat. >> we have a live report from the white house coming up. but first let's head to nbc's ron allen at le republique square. it is not common to see military deployed in the streets of paris. what is the reaction there? >> reporter: i think it is a beginning of a period of soul searching and hard questions for the french people. you can see in paris there are still people out here at this memorial paying respects and homage here to celebrate and mourn. a mix of emotions at the monument for the victims, the 17
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frenchmen who were lost in the attacks of the past few days. there are discussions here now about what are the limits of security and surveillance for the public. the similar debate that the united states had after 9/11. there is discussions about patriot act-like moves of the government and movement around europe which is now relatively free across borders and unincumbered across borders and should that be tightened and how much. and at tack here was rejected and upset so many because it was on liberty and freedom and those are questions that the french people will have to discuss in the coming weeks, months and years going forward. we haven't seen a very huge presence -- military presence on the streets. most of it will be concentrated in the jewish communities and people are pointing out there is a need for more security in the muslim communities as well. there are huge numbers of jewish
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french citizens that are leaving the country, 7,000 last year which is about 1% of the population here because of anti-semitic attacks, let alone what happened in the last few days. and similarly in the jewish population and there is concern that perhaps young men and women and joining the fighting in iraq and syria enticed by the jihadi groups. by one estimate there are estimated 1,000 to 2,000 people in the country who the officials want to keep under surveillance and they are outnumbered and the big question here is what went wrong, because obviously the gun gunmen were under surveillance at some point during the past ten years as far as back in some cases. so again, the investigation continues, trying to probe into the links and the connections that these people had and just trying to understand what the
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problem is here that authorities perhaps thought they had a better handle on but now realize that they don't. >> ron allen live in paris. thank you for that. christopher dickey is foreign editor at the daily beast and lives in paris. what is the mood in paris after the gigantic show of unity and are people talking about obama not coming? >> reporter: well i think in terms of the show of unity, it was a great feel-good moment for the french at a time when they desperately needed to feel better because of the trauma inflicted on them by the charlie hebdo killings an the kosher grocery killings. so it really was a moment when i think most french people felt that they had come together and stood tall in the face of intimidation and terrorism. but i don't think people feel it is going to have a lasting effect. i think that they think it is going to degenerate very quickly, the situation will
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into political bickering that has already begun. the leader of the far right was not invited to join yesterday. and the question where president obama is concerned, i think there is a realize is if president obama had been in the ranks of the leaders there, the security nightmare, which was already tremendous would have been multiplied several fold. but i think people do wonder how it happened that eric holder the attorney general of the united states, certainly a senior official, was in paris that day and did not take place -- take part in the march. it is very hard to figure out, why that was. it is also hard to figure out why john kerry didn't come. he is very proud of the fact that he has a french background and that he speaks french and yet for some reason he didn't show up. so i think that there is some disappointment here about that. but probably there is less
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discussion of that here than there is in washington, d.c. >> i think it is a decision the white house is now regretting today, wishing they probably sent somebody. christopher, something that is a bit confusing in all of this is who the terrorists-the brothers the fighters who are they fighting for? is it isis is it al qaeda? because aren't both of these groups basically at war with each other and something you've been writing about. help break that down for us. >> reporter: well i think you have to understand that these kinds of people these kind of jihadists who are trying to operate inside of europe and to some extent inside of the united states at the end of the day, they are fighting for their own narrow notion of islamic justice. as explained to them usually by people who know very little about the koran. i think what we have with these guys is that the brothers wound up going to -- the brothers have been trying to carry out jihad
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even to become martyrs for a very long time. the younger brother had tried to go to iraq to kill americans and had wanted to be killed in the process. but he was stopped by the authorities before he got there. and then he spent time in jail. they made more connections and they became much more hardened in their determination to carry out actions inside of europe. but at the end of the day, are they working for isis or are they working for al qaeda? i think they are claiming to work for al qaeda and claiming to work for isis. particularly amedy coulibaly who said he pledged allegiance i don't think he much of a connection with the islamic state before he made that video. i think he did it partly so that he could build his reputation and probably also so that he could win a place for his wife in the -- in the territory of the islamic state where she will
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now be received as the spouse of a martyr and will be glorified as a result. so -- but ultimately what does it come down to with these guys? a very simple almost childish idea of justice. you draw pictures of mohammed and that is a crime against god, you deserve to die. i'll kill you. you are a jew, the jews are occupying muslim palestine, that is a crime against god, i'll kill you. it is as simple as that. and they don't need a lot of leadership to do that they just need the organization to get them the guns and the kind of leadership that can plan an attack like this. and that doesn't necessarily have to come from al qaeda or isis and in this case it very likely came from a man they had met in jail who was a very early member of al qaeda and had once plotted to blow up the u.s. embassy here in paris. >> christopher dickey thank you for shining a light on that.
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the president did not go to the peace rally in france on sunday but world leaders will come here next month. eric holder announced the white house will hold an anti-terrorist summit in washington, d.c. on february 18th. and he spoke about the need for a coordinated response on "meet the press." >> you auld look back -- always look back and determine how you would do things better. i will say the french has been among our best allies our greatef friends in the fight -- the greatest friends in the fight against global terrorism and we are here to compress our solidarity with them. >> and in recent weeks we've seen attacks in canada australia and france and what can be done next to stop the attacker, we're joined by chair of international relations in the middle east at the london school of economics, anthony
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rhodes. as we've discussed before. the military cannot bomb us or attack us and security cannot be everywhere all of the time so what are we supposed to do? >> well i think the first point i would stress is we should not fall into the trap of fear. we should not allow these militants of al qaeda variety to transform, to shift or change the open societies that exist, either in europe or the united states. the second point i want to make is that the united states is at war, as you know is at war with the al qaeda parent organization. it is at war with al qaeda in the arabian peninsula and at war with isis one of the most powerful militant organizations that subscribed to the al qaeda ideology. to give you an idea of what i mean at the height of the power in the late 1990s, the al qaeda parent organization, the central, did not number more
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than 2,000 fighters. even though they succeeded in delivering a very brutal blow to the american homeland. but they were between 1,000 and 2,000 fighters. isis now numbers between 17,000 fighters an 32,thousand -- 32,000 fighters. an the focus of isis was local and iraqi regime and the saudis now they have been calling on their followers worldwide to attack the united states and attack europe itself. so the reality is -- i think given the fact that the united states is at war out of fear there are bound to be consequences. and even though you need to make sure it is a very -- that it is coordinated, not only between the american and europe security services but involve civil societies, local communities to
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use all instruments at their disposal in order to minimize and prevent any other lone wolf attack as we've seen in boston and other places or limited networks like the attacks in paris that basically traumatize the french public and they are terrorizing europe. the u.k. -- i mean the prime minister is suggesting that he is anxious and the security services are anxious of copycat attacks in london as well. >> and the talk there about the two types of threats, the foreign threat and the homefront. and you've wrote about how do we end wars and why that process has to be political and nation building and civil society but not just strategically a military problem. but this would seem this type of attack that is home grown and foreign inspired people living within the nation being dealt with by the criminal system within the country and the
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oversight and surveillance pursueance to that and this has little to do with the nation building abroad in places like afghanistan or whatever becomes of syria, this is a home-grown problem too, isn't it? >> it is. and it is also a problem because there is almost nothing you can do to stop small groups of vids from doing things they are determined to do. and it is not just about policy. so france was opposed to the iraq war. and you remember the french monkeys and the sentiment, it didn't help them in that regard. france germany all have different opinions toward handling the population and they all have terrorist problems and so do we. it is difficult to have a cookie-cutter answer and say do this and your problem will stop. the answer is partly an combination of determination and resill yebt.
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because there are small numbers of people who will do bad things no matter what the worst response is to shut down the society and give them a multiplier effect and sometimes absorbing it and using your intelligence to prevent it in the future is the right way to go. >> such an hopper to have two brilliant men, thank you, gideon rose. and next a conversation with the woman overseeing the first release after charlie hebdo attack. >> they are in shock. it was difficult for them to work and focus. they are very few now, but because they knew that they would want to draw and make for those crazy guys who want to kill for a cartoon, they want to start to work.
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this coming wednesday charlie hebdo will publish the first edition since ten of the staff was killed. here is a first look at the story boards and cover ideas as the remaining staff works out of temporary officers. they are printing 3 million copies in 16 languages, far more than the usual 60,000 circulation. and showing it will not change its content in response to the murders. the magazine's lawyer said it will include carrickicatures of the prophet muhammad. how they are handling this as such a difficult time. ronan farrow discussed that with the journalist in charge with that difficult task. here is a piece of that interview. >> what is the most important message for this new charlie hebdo to deliver and what is different about it after this attack? >> i think they want to say no matter what, we will tibcontinue.
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you can kill our colleague, you can kill our friends, you won't kill the spirit of liberty, you won't kill the spirit of blasphemy. we all insist on that. it is more than having a sense of humor. the right of doing blasphemy is just a basis of a secular democracy. if you cannot love about a religion, or only love about the pope but not about islam, that means that cities are not all equal and that the fanatic religions and can kill they are making the rules for the press, and then i would say we don't live if democracy. we already live in a dictatorship. >> reporting from paris for ronan farrow continues tomorrow mere on msnbc. and the hunt will go on for any accomplices in the charlie
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hebdo attack. and as we reported hayat boumeddiene is believed to be in turkey. and turkish officials say this is her in surveillance footage from istanbul's airport. for more on the pursuit of one of the most wanted women, one of the leaders in this study. >> let's start with the international hunt. how has it affected improved or complicated by the massive exposure throughout the massive region of this woman? >> well it certainly helped by the increased exposure having her face blasted all over the tv screens across the region. but she also knows this and she's not about to go on a tour of the middle east. she'll stay low and stay in a place where authorities can't get to her, which of course means western or northern syria.
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but there are places in turkey where she could go and probably find some degree of sanctuary but primarily she'll remain in syria. the hunt is on for her as well as others related to this but it will be very difficult to capture them. >> tom the perps can't seem to agree if they are sented by aqap or isis does it matter if we are at war with both? >> from a broader sense, no it doesn't. from in law enforcement and military sense it does because we need to know who to pursue here and who to retaliate against and who to watch for. but on the broader scale, which i think is what you are getting at there -- no. we have groups that are either able to inspire or train people to equip them and put them in action against the west. we don't know if they were able to train and arm them and equip
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them but they've been able to inspire them of what they are doing in places like yemen and syria and elsewhere and whether you are talking about ottawa sydney or paris or other place, they are in spired and compounded by their experience at home and that is a volatile mix and that leads to the attacks we've seen recently. >> and a report from the new york times, saying that cherif became more radicalized while in prison and muslim extremism was flourishing in french prisons at that time. is that an ongoing problem in france and that exists in other countries as well? >> without a doubt. we looked at that very early on after 9/11. we held meetings looking at radicalizations for prison. prisons are no-go zones for police because they don't control them to a great degree. it is difficult to integrate in
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prisons, just like you have with gangs in the united states, but it is much bigger in france where the proportion of in mates from north africa and places like the middle east are very high. radicalization takes place there. you have the meetings of the minds. people on the margins of society and radicalized by what they see overseas u.s. or french forces on the ground and they are impacted from a radical preacher or someone who is not a preacher at all but who has taken a leadership role in a prison with often very young, pliable minds that are infected and that is what you have in prisons all across europe and in other places. >> tom sanderson, thank you very much. we'll check back with you on this story, imagine. up next a check on the other big headlines today
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at ford.com or see your local ford dealer. ♪ secretary of state john kerry landed in pakistan today and defended the president for not attending the peace rally in paris on sunday. kerry slammed the criticism as quote, quibbling for the u.s. not having any high level representative with the other 40-plus world leaders. kerry will stop in paris on thursday on his way home saying le meet with french officials on friday. nbc news senior white house correspondent chris jansing is on the white house lawn. this was symbolic with the leaders linking arms in solidarity and now they are saying not sending an official higher than the ambassador was wrong. what are you hearing there? >> i think this is being acknowledged as a mistake and a
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turn around from what we heard this morning and secretary kerry called it quibbling and saying we are focusing on the wrong thing, that the united states has been partners in counter terrorism efforts and the president did reach out to president francois hollande and he did come over to the french embassy and sign a condolences book. and if it wasn't going to be the president or the vice president, and for the security for everybody who is there and is a security threat and a great challenge for the secret service, why not send eric holder, the attorney general who is a recognizable face of this administration and who is already there. administration officials say this never got to the desk of the president. they wouldn't say who made the final decision. but if they had to do it again,
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obviously because it turned out to be such a hugely symbolic moment they would do it differently. and again secretary kerry will stop at the end of the week and next month they will have a counter-terrorism meeting next month. and for how this is playing out on capitol hill we are joined by congress peter welsch from vermont. thank you for being with us. >> thank you. >> and a mass tragedy in the capital city and not only was president obama absent but not one representative from his administration showed up yesterday. did we miss a real opportunity here to show support? >> we did. symbols malar in -- matter in politics and friends matter in politics and there is nothing more important than standing with your friends in a time of need. so it would be great if eric holder was with the crowd of world leaders on behalf of the united states at the moment. .united states understands and the president understands that
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was a mistake. apparently he didn't make that decision. but that was an opportunity. and i think there was just an inability on our part to appreciate just how profoundly shocking this was and shook european society, not just france, to its core. so yes, that was -- i wish we were there. >> you mentioned eric holder he was also asked on "meet the press" about another very big report in "the new york times," the front page this weekend, that some people inside of the justice department think they may have a case against former general david petraeus regarding unauthorized leaks of classified information. take a listen to the attorney general's response to the new york times report. >> i think that anybody who shared information that led to that report did so inappropriately. the determination has yet to be made and we will just see how things play out before any final
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decision. >> no final decision and obviously no final facts available to the public or to you as far as we know. but what is the broader feeling in washington and in the congress about any potential prosecution like of this general petraeus. >> i think it is conflicted. on the one hand you have to protect national security and in fact the burden of that responsibility, the higher you are in access to it i think is the greater responsibility. so it would be very hard to justify not prosecuting if the facts were there that said there was really a case. but the second thing is there is an enormous amount of respect for general petraeus and that comes from people for the iraq war and people like me who were strongly against the iraq war. but he's been a tremendous public servant who made a grave mistake. as senator feinstein said he's suffered enormously.
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but the rule of law here and the importance of protecting national security intelligence i think has to be upheld. so if the facts indicate that in fact there was a violation of the law then i'm afraid that general petraeus would have to accept that responsibility in court. >> congressman one other issue woof learned about in the -- we've learned about in the last couple of hours, central command's twitter and you tube accounts were attack by someone with isis sympathies. they are saying this is a huge embarrassment but doesn't indicate it is a major security threat. what is your take? >> it is showing that in the 21st century cyber terrorism and cyber crime and cyber economic penetration is the new frontier. the united states is dominant. but when it comes to cyber terrorism or attacks there are a lot of pairs out there and what it is indicating out there i think is the enormous importance
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from the national security and economic security standpoint that we have systems in place that can defend and detect and thwart these invasions. >> congress peter welsch from the great state of vermont, thank you very much sir. turning to another big political headline today. is america ready for mitt romney 3.0. the guy who seems to have had more reboots than the iphone could make yet another presidential run in 2016. casey hunt reports that romney told a small group of donors on friday that he is considering a run for the presidency. of course, the voters in the past have had other ideas about mitt romney. so is he a serious contender. and let's ask doug cornell, a strategist at s.k.d. nicker bocker. the last two parties that lost and came back to win the presidency are richard nixon in
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1968 and grover cleveland in 1892 which is the year our executive producer was born. >> i thought you were born that year. does that mean mitt romney will run for president? >> i talked to someone close to him and this person told me this is serious and the family is behind him. that he still thinks he should have won in 2012. he has donors and other folks telling him he should run. but the reality is if you remember 2012 he didn't run a juggernaut campaign. rick santorum who was under funded won 11 states and there just doesn't seem to be -- and i talked to other folks who aren't so high on him running and they just said who is his base? who is going to support mitt romney again. there is still anger that he lost a race that people thought he should have won. so it remains to be seen whether he actually makes the decision. you think he wants to leave the
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door open but, look he is running -- if he runs in '16, he will have run for president for the last ten years. that is a long time. you run the risk of being labelled a career candidate. >> i might be one of the only people that are not buying this. i don't think he will run. time will tell. we'll see. i want to get your thoughts on the keystone pipeline before we let you go. it is voted on in the house and moving on to the senate this week and one of the big arguments is oil independency and gas and you look at how oil has gone down 50%. does that take anything away from the argument and does it make it less urgent? >> well it is not going to take anything away for the argument from republicans. they are pushing it. they feel like this is a win b issue for them. but at the same time the american people aren't sitting at the kitchen table saying gosh, i wish we had the keystone pipeline. they have other issues they are concerned about and that is where there is a mistake with
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republicans. look the keystone pipeline may be built but not because of this bill. because the republicans aren't going to be able to get enough democrats to override a veto. they may get nine democrats but they are still four short and they need to get to 67 and they aren't going to debt there. >> doug thornel, thank you. we appreciate it. a reason to smile and laugh courtesy of tina and amy. the best of hollywood's golden night is next. >> george clooney married am almal clooney. and so tonight her husband is getting a lifetime achievement award.
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idea we will not walk in fear. we won't do it so je suis charlie. >> many people made reference to the attacks in paris. last night, people also made fun of bill cosby. >> even more amazing, not the worst review the movie got. >> i think their orange is the new black should be in new drama category. it's funny but not ha ha fun. >> that is the great margaret cho. the big winner was "boyhood." beyond that, the awards were spread around like one of those kiddie competitions where everyone gets a trophy.
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we got an oscar race that is for now, completely up for grabs. let's unpack with mike hogan. mike sometimes when politics is broached at this awards shows, it gets a little awkward. why are you guys speaking out about what's going on here or there? but when you're talking about attacks on artistic freedom and freedom of speech it seems exactly in their wheel house. >> exactly. some people on the red carpet had the je suis charlie posters. in addition to being an important issue that probably all of us agree on it is also a business issue for hollywood. these guys make a lot of money on sex and violence and bad taste and jokes that aren't funny to everybody. if people start getting killed for doing those things that is a big problem for hollywood. >> that's a very good point. >> absolutely. >> i thought they were strong on
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paris. a lot of people in that room were weak on sony. there were a lot of people there who came late to that issue when the money allowed it and early when there was time to put your name down. george clooney and his agents tried to get people to stand in solidarity with that movie and none of the a-listers didn't want to do it. what i want to ask you about is michael keaton's incredible remarks. let's listen to those. >> i'm the seventh child of george douglas. i don't ever remember a time when my father didn't work two jobs. when my mother wasn't saying the rosary or going to mass or trying to take care of seven kids in a rundown farmhouse. she was volunteering at the ohio valley hospital where i was born in the hallway. >> what did you think of that acceptance speech? >> i'm going to be honest.
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the first thing i thought if a woman were ever receiving a tv award, she wouldn't have had that much time to talk. people were getting played off all night. stop everything. keaton is going to talk. it is very important for him right now. he and eddy were auditioning for the oscars last night. michael keaton gave a very heartfelt, sometimes confusing speech. he is not one of the most beloved people in hollywood. michael keaton more difficult. so he's there trying to if nothing else, say here's why i'm difficult. i didn't come from this world. i'm from another world and i'm a real guy and this is what i'm all about. i think it was an important moment for him. we'll see how it plays at the kos oscars. >> that's why they ran out of time. i want to talk about gina
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rodriguez for "jane, the virgin." she came across so real. backstage, she was getting very emotional. let's take a listen at what she had to say. >> my father used to tell me every morning to say today is going to be a great day. today and i will. today is a great day and i can and i did. >> these are the moments, mike that are so inspiring with these events. >> this had to be absolutely head spinning for gina rodriguez. "jane the virgin" was a surprise nomination. she came loaded ready to give a terrific speech. >> a latina woman, by the way. >> she has turned roles down in the past.
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there she is holding the trophy. >> any time tina and amy are hosting, it's going to be a great night for women. maggie gyllenhall gave a fantastic acceptance speech. she was excited about the more real roles for women. is that actually happening in hollywood? >> well i think yes and no probably is the answer. i mean still the big blockbuster movies are guys and they can be 50 60 doesn't matter. women who are over 30 are -- it's harder for them to find roles in film but there's an expanding world of quality television. none of the networks won anything last night. netflix, hbo, showtime. there's a lot of interesting roles there. >> what is the oscar best picture frontrunner now? >> "boyhood" far and away.
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>> it's the best. >> it's interesting you say that. golden globe is the precurser, but it's not a good predictor. i would wonder if -- absolutely. usually i would think they would not win. >> last two years best drama at the golden globes has gone on to win best picture at the oscars. a lot of the nerds have been thinking about the golden globes was "bird man" was going to win comedy and "boyhood" was going to win drama. to me it looks like "boyhood" has a clear path to victory. >> winner of the night, george clooney's wife. >> that does it for "the cycle." with the world on edge the
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ap is reporting this hour that up to six accomplices in the paris attacks may still be at large. it's monday, january 12th and this is "now." >> the hunt for accomplices in the paris terrorist attacks. >> the most wanted woman in the world, hayat boumeddiene. >> looks like she has gone to isis controlled territory in syria. >> it is very hard to find people in syria. >> this country feels very vulnerable. >> this is not a french problem. this is something the whole world has to get together and come up with a unified solution. >> an international breaking story. >> the twitter page of central command has been
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