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the white house admits now the decision not to attend sunday's march was a mistake. >> whether or not the united states should have sent someone with a higher profile and it's fair to say we should have sent someone with a higher profile. >> hack attack, after centcom social media victimized by isis inspired hackers, they say it should be a warning. >> not a crisis but needs to be looked at. >> this is not a threat to critical infrastructure. this is much more of an annoyance than anything else. >> and power shift, congress's leaders meet with the president. they at least find something on which they can agree. >> to the speaker, i want to point out, i said there are going to be some things we agree on and having a college football
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playoff is clearly something we can agree on. i called for it when i came into office. i think it turned out pretty well, particularly for ohio. ♪ good day, i'm andrea mitchell in washington. we're following all of the latest developments from france and israel. the surviving staff at "charlie hebdo" is preparing to release a new issue, 3 million copies in 16 different languages with a cover depicting the prophet mohammed holding a sign that says je suis charlie. with a banner all is forgiven. they discuss how difficult it is emotionally and why they decided to push forward. >> more than anything we tried to put the drawings of those no
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longer here in the newspaper. like charb his drawings are here. everyone is in this thing. >> in an exclusive interview with ronan farrow partner of slain editor stephane charbonnier talked about his death. >> i don't sleep. i don't seat. i just drink some water. i try -- i would like to die sometimes, i think it's very difficult because you know -- >> what makes you feel like you would like to die? >> because i would like to give my life for my boyfriend. you know it's a great man. he's a great man.
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it's my hero. >> at funerals for the victims today, france's president hollande confirmed the victims and netanyahu and thousands turned out at funerals for the four jewish victims of the kosher supermarket attack. joining me live in paris, ron allen and live in jerusalem, ayman mohyeldin. the moving saying and paris trying to recover and the investigation heating up. >> reporter: indeed andrea, a lot of anticipation about the release, publication of this magazine tomorrow and what the reaction is going to be to it. tonight we're hearing already at news agents newsstandses around the country you have to put your name on a list and try to reserve a copy because there's such demand. they'll be hitting the stands
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tonight. it will be available online as well in 16 different languages. and it's an interesting thing. certainly some people are going to be upset by it. that they are depicting the image of mohammed that is blass peoplous in islam. some people wonder is this the right time to do that? when you talk to the 4 million or so who marched in the streets around country the other day, they feel strongly that whatever the publishers or cartooners want to do is appropriate and that the press conference this afternoon, you could see emotion and see how devastated these people were to lose their colleagues and friends and how they poured all of their creativity and heart and souls into this and into the publication of this magazine. they hinted about why they did what they did. and more will be revealed tomorrow. it will be interesting, very healthy debate going on about whether it was appropriate to do
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what they did or not. i think the feeling here is very strong that we are charlie and that is what we're going to have tomorrow. on the investigation, yes, one break, there was a man arrested who has associated with the kouachi brothers and into syria and isis controlled territory. we know that investigators here are continuing to pursue other accomplices and other associates of the gunmen who were here. they are not telling us how many. they are not telling us what they believe the role of the individuals to be. they're being tight lipped but there's an active and aggressive investigation under way. it was moving to seat french national assembly come together and have the moment of silence and sing the national anthem. there was also serious business. the prime minister there gave a speech where he lined out very new tough initiatives what he wants the french government to adopt in terms of anti-terrorist
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tactics, similar to the patriot act after 9/11 especially on the internet because that is a key tool used ford rekrutment activities. >> and of course france is under also pressure french government under pressure politically from the national front, right wing political party trying to gain traction on this. there are anti-islamic rallies across europe and in germany today ang la merkel led a pro-islam counter rally. there's a lot of emotion as well as politics wrapped up in all of this in jerusalem. also the whole subject of french and european anti-sem mettism, you were at the funerals today. let's talk about that and the
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ex-pat yags from france and french jews going to israel. >> reporter: that's right, it was something that came up today in our time spent at the funeral. it was a very somber day, one filled with a lot of emotions not only for the families of those four jewish victims killed in the terror attack but for the hundreds of mourners. the president of the country said the entire country was mourning the loss of these four individuals. their families wanted them buried here in israel so the israeli government made sure that was a possibility. today we saw signs that je suis charlie signs, with the solidarity moment we heard from both the israeli prime minister and president who expressed grave concern about the growing wave of anti-sem itism, that
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this was no longer an issue for israel and others and jewish community but major issue for world leaders and called them to action. we heard from individual who told us giving the nature of the rising anti-sem mettism, they weren't surprised and called on others in france and europe to make the journey to israel. that also upset some in the french community who say they can't have a france without the french-jewish population. it is an issue that has been a side bar conversation here in israel and elsewhere as a result of this. today was a very somber day as these four individuals were laid to rest here. andrea? >> and ayman, i wanted to play something, a remarkable moment from richard engel's reporting in paris when he interviewed the head of the jewish community in france. >> can you survive this wave of
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anti-semitism, targeted anti-jewish violence? >> many people are very attached to french culture. on the other hand you think about the german jews optimists who went to auschwitz and possess possesscy mists went to new york. >> that's a pretty remarkable comment. as we talk about the anti-semitism, we have to worry about the anti-muslim reaction in france. this is a painful chapter in european and israeli history. >> reporter: i've heard a lot of people particularly religious leaders and culturale leaders saying it is a cross roads to deal with the integration and simulation moves. one of the jewish organizations that leads the charge of helping jews make that journey from
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france to israel says that i have seen a massive spike in just the past week of people expressing their desire to move to israel. at the same time, we've known for the past several years there is a growing wave of islamophobia that continues to alien ate the muslim community in many countries and that has given concern for authorities as these populations before more and more alienated. they could become pockets, if you will ripe for exploitation by militant recruiters and others. it is a challenging time for europe as it tries to grapple with what type of identity it wants to have with its communities. both the jewish and muslim one. >> ayman mohyeldin in front of the beautiful wall in the old city. also to ron allen in paris before. nbc's justice correspondent pete williams joins me now. pete, there's a lot of concern
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here in the united states about homeland security. precautionary steps taken. i guess jeh johnson expanding the number of cities where federal buildings will have additional enhanced screening? >> two steps taken by homeland security in response to two things the attacks in paris and continuing propaganda a renewed push by isis supporters in the past 24 hours. one thing he's done is increase the number and size and extent of security at federal buildings around the country. this is a modest plus-up to what he ordered in october after the attacks on the canadian parliament. i think a lot of it will not necessarily be visible security but more scrutiny on people coming into buildings, searches of briefcases tweaking up the metal detectors, that kind of step. the second thing is ordering the transportation security administration to do two things number one, increase the number
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of random screenings ats airports and passengers and their carry-ones and asked tsa to look what it does now and see if any changes should be made in light of everything going on across the world. >> josh earnest at the white house briefing was asked about u.s. cooperation with the french on the search for the attackers and possible accomplices. this is part of what he had to say. >> the united states has been in a position to share some information with french investigators who are trying to get to the bottom of what exactly happened and who may have been involved in the attack. >> how extensive is the cooperation between the two intelligence forces today? >> very positive is what they've been saying since last wednesday, andrea. a lot of this will have to do with things that the u.s. can exclusively do intelligence tracking communications surveillance, that kind of
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thing. the sort of thing that's been very controversial over the last year and a half or so is precisely the kind of thing the french government now thinks the u.s. can help them with. >> pete briefly, you were at the supreme court earlier, one of the justices in a rare move was late today for the session. what happened? >> reporter: it happens, it was justice scalia he had two decisions to announce from the bench today and when 10:00 came he wasn't there. the chief justice announced him again and the court explained that he was as happens often to people in the washington area, stuck in traffic. >> how does that happen? can't imagine. thank you very much, pete williams on all fronts. on a very serious note here in washington speaking of commuting, a frightening commute last night for metro passengers trapped underground at the start of the evening rush hour. one person died after d.c. metro train filled with smoke under
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the lenfant plaza metro station across from the smithsonian, smoke so chick they could barely see. >> no electricity, no visibility or not. >> once ip got out and started to coughing and taste blood in my lungs, it was nasty. >> pitch black smoke everywhere they kicked everybody out. >> passengers had been trapped for nearly an hour before they got out. 84 people were taken to area hospitals, several in critical condition. they didn't have enough ambulances and took them in buses. investigators still looking into the source of the smoke. while in new york city this morning, officials say an early morning fire near penn state at madison square garden is being called suspicious. the three alarm fire broke out in an underground construction site nearby. subway trains were forced to bypass the station during today's busy morning commute. the white house is citing security concerns among other issue for president obama or vice president biden or anyone else from the cabinet not
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an enormous global rally in supporting freedom of expression after attack on a closeal lie and the u.s. was a no show? it's going to take a lot to make up for this. >> john kerry said he'll go to france later this week. >> je suis to be kidding me. >> jon stewart reflecting a response in diplomatic circles around the world for what the white house belatedly admits was
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a poor decision. the daily news today sent a scathing message to the white house with a cover that reads, terror, what terror? slamming the president for missing the mark. press secretary josh earnest first said the white house should have sent a higher priority delegate. then when asked again about the criticism moments ago, he said very little. >> don't have any additional information on that particular matter we didn't already talk about yesterday. >> if i asked you was the paris embassy involved? did you even -- was it even brought up? >> joining me now is "washington post" chief correspondent dan walls and susan page. susan, first, the secret service wasn't even contacted. the bottom line from my reporting, no one in the white house at any senior staff level even suggested to the president of the united states or the vice president that either of them go. >> it's inexplicable we don't have an understanding of what
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happened and whether somebody hub held responsibility. remember when george w. bush didn't show up in new orleans over katrina. >> and flew over and released a picture from air force one. >> not that he was going to repair the breach in new orleans, but going to show up and cared, some situation here. president obama should have shown up clearly and white house acknowledges here, to show the united states stands with france and germany and other nations represented in this new war on terror. >> dan, at the time on sunday morning, i was on television i think you were on television. we were looking at live pictures out of paris. someone could have picked up the phone and said to eric holder you're there, why don't you go outside and join this march. >> well somebody wasn't thinking at the white house over the weekend and that's clear. both by what josh earnest had to say yesterday, which was to apologize in essence and say they made a mistake which was probably the right thing to say after what had happened. but as susan said it's inexplicable what was going on over the weekend in terms of
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discussions whether there should be or what kind of presence there should be at the march. and people are paid to think in advance about those things and somebody dropped the ball or a number of people dropped the ball. >> and i want to ask both of you about 2016. this has also just kind of exploded over the last couple of days. dan from your reporting, mitt romney talking to donors and letting that be known friday and perhaps prompted by seeing jeb bush's perceived advantage in organizing and getting his name out there. and now really reaching oit to former staff members, seeming to organize even more so. it looks as though we could have chris christie giving his state of the state message later today, chris christie, jeb bush and mitt romney, at least two of the three mainstream republicans might be in this case. >> and scott walker is also giving his today and he could well be in there. he at least has a foot in the
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mainstream camp. it's pretty extraordinary and we were all focused on jeb bush and aggressiveness which he was moving and now suddenly mitt romney is doing the same thing. from all of the reporting that our team has been doing over the last four days he is moving very very aggressively. he is reaching out to a lot of people. he's indicating that he's quite serious about this. there are a number of people who are relatively close to him who say this decision has not been made. but i think at this point, no one would be surprised if in the end he says yes and we may see some further steps relatively soon and to give an indication of how serious he is. >> and the fact that paul ryan -- we didn't think was going to run, susan page but paul ryan talked to mitt romney and announced in an interview that he is not going to run. he's got ways and means and possibly rewriting the tax code on his plate. but still, also of course scott walker in wisconsin very close to paul ryan.
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>> i think it was unlikely that paul ryan was got to run against mitt romney. our assumption was mitt romney wasn't going to run so the path was open. he's got some time and a lot of interest in getting something done. >> only 45. >> of the ways and means committee. i wonder if this is good news for other elements of the party if you have all of the establishment figures carving up the part of the vote the foot soldiers of the republican party have come from more conservative forces. i wonder if this is good news for candidates like ted cruz and rand paul who appeal to a different part of the party if they are carving up the other side. >> there's a stick of fried butter in our future because the straw poll will still be held. they announced that yesterday. dan balz iowa here we all come. >> we'll be there in a week actually. there's a conclave a week from this weekend. so we'll see a whole slew of
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republican candidates at that point. iowa is not in our future-future, very near future. >> it's a lot colder next week than it will be in august. i'll pick my chances. susan page see you in a bit. still to come the largest massacre to date in nigeria from boko haram why is the world silent? divers have recovered the second black box from flight 8501. the cockpit voice recorder was pulled from the wreckage. it will be downloaded by analysts in jakarta. the plane crashed with 162 people on board. only 48 bodies have been recovered so far. you're watching "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc. you park your car. as you walk away crunch! a garbage truck backs into it. so,you call your insurance company, looking for a little support. what you get is a game of a thousand questions. was it raining? were your flashers
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enhanced its screenings at federal buildings and facilities in an expanded number of u.s. cities in response to terror attacks in paris. of particular concern a video reissued by isis encouraging lone wolf attacks in western countries. new york police department commissioner bill bratspoke about this threat earlier today on "morning joe". >> we remain the number one terrorist target in the world. in light of what happened in paris and some of the additional threats out of isis that we have ramped up the level of attention to the issue, advising our offices to be more vigilant. >> i'm joined by richard burr thank you very much for being with us. >> good afternoon. >> i know you've been briefed. what is the latest concern or the level of concern about attacks here in the homeland? >> andrea i think like any international incident of this type we're continuing to take
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information that we learned from the french and others and we're continuing to run that through our data bases, be it electronic or be it human sources, so that we can get more texture of what happened. and more importantly, this is important for the american people, our intelligence community is charged with trying to connect those dots and project if there may be additional threats here at home. the threat warning is high today because we've seen an international incident because we've seen reposted the isil threats. i don't know -- i have not -- i'm not privy to any specific plot but we continue to follow individuals around this country that we don't know the degree of concern we should have. but they are watched very closely. >> how concerned should we be that these individuals had been tracked in the past? one was in prison one had been to yemen, one of the brothers
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and the other instance hayat boumeddiene, the wife of the attacker at the jewish supermarket was permitted to get through the net, even before the attack actually is when she left and got through turkey and got into syria presumably. >> well it says exactly how easy it is for french citizen, british citizen, u.s. citizen to leave their country to go to turkey, to get into syria, to train, to commit acts with isil and potentially return home from a standpoint of the brothers clearly watching the video, they were trained to carry out a horrific act and we've got to learn from that. but we also have to face the realities that isil and aqap in the arabian peninsula and core
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al qaeda and cora zan, all threats to not only the united states of the america and rest of the world. >> i want to ask about the attack on centcom social media and twitter and youtube. the isis sympathetic group that hacked so easily into central command. i know the pentagon says it's not a classified site. obviously these open sources, but how concerned should we be? >> well listen we should be concerned because we need cyber security legislation and need it passed now. that's why the president has given a speech in the last 24 hours, administration's putting public piece of legislation something they haven't done before and when you've got a committed white house, i can assure you it's going to be matched with a committed senate of the united states and dianne feinstein and i are working
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aggressively to get that out. it was their twitter and their facebook accounts. it was a social media sites that were hacked. it wasn't the classified side. it would be much more difficult to do that. but it shows intent and i think that's the key thing. whether we look at the attacks by social media or we talk about potential threats to the united states, the first thing you have to ask, is there intent to do it on both cases the intent is there by multiple players around the world. >> senator burr thank you so much. this is our first interview officially as chairman and we hope it's the first of many. thanks for being with us today. still to come, a deeper dive into that hack that took over centcom's twitter hack. who's behind it and how did they do it? you're watching "andrea mitchell reports."
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in nigeria, a brutal attack by the terror group boko haram claimed the lives of hundreds of civilian as many as 2,000 according to some reports including from amnesty international. those reports not confirmed independently by nbc news. what is nigeria and rest of the world doing to stop them? alexis joins us a journalist and contributing writer for "the new yorker." thanks for being with us what do you know about how many people may have been killed in this massacre? >> well from what i've heard talking to people in the northeast who have talked to survivors and refugees people who escaped and survived the massacre, i'm getting the report of hundreds of people have died. people have seen hundreds of
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bodies. not up to 1,000 or 2,000, but that doesn't mean that more people weren't killed. the problem with these massacres in the northeast is that it's really hard to get official numbers and it's hard because it's such a crisis zone to figure out how many people were killed. >> and so many people may have escaped across the border into chad and may have been killed there or injured there as well. there's also reports, horrific reports that in at least one attack, a bomb was worn by a 10-year-old girl that some of these children who have been captured have been suited with bombs and turning them into suicide bombers. do we know anything about the accuracy of those reports? >> yeah i mean it -- we know that it froblly is pretty accurate only because last month there was a 13-year-old girl who told reporters in the
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northern nigerian city of cano that her father, who was a member of boko haram enlisted her to be a suicide bomber. she refused. two other young people raised by boek co-har ram as bombers. i mean this is -- seems to be a new tactic by boekko haram, a new and disturbing trend. >> anger has been expressed by some in the government against the u.s. for not doing more but at the same time u.s. officials say the nigerian government is -- the military in particular is corrupt and cooperating with boek boek boko haram, taking payoffs. who's telling the truth about these reports? >> the problem is that the u.s. can't really cooperate with the nigerian government to the extent that the nigerian government wants it to because
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it is -- because its military is compromised. there are a lot of reports of soldiers not having weapons and protective gear they need because bombs have been stolen by officials or military has been ambushed on certain occasions because boko haram has known their location beforehand. it's clear the army has been corrupted. until the nigerian government takes action to prosecute those who are responsible or to clean up the act of the military there's only so much outsiders can do to help nigeria defeatboko haram. thanks so much alexis okeko. new cyber security proposals this afternoon aimed at protecting government and businesses from cyber attacks. after meeting with congress at leaders this morning, the
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president had this to say about the initiative. >> with the sony attacks that took place with the twitter account that was hacked by islamist jihadist sympathizers yesterday, it just goes to show how much more work we need to do, both public and private sector to strengthen our cyber security. >> president obama just moments ago ironically yesterday during the program the president was there speaking about defending the nation from cyber threats, even as the pentagon central command social media accounts were being hacked by an organization claiming to have links to isis not a very reassuring sign. cyber security expert joins me now. this has been the last 24 48 hours has been remarkable for the ironies, but there's a serious problem here. >> yeah there is a very serious problem here. and i say this not because there was a compromise of national
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security but more because probably a civilian command sent tral employee or central command employee wasn't understanding basic security protocols or was not properly trained on basic security leading to a complete embarrassment for the government even if there was no national security interest compromised. >> the business community, especially in silicon valley is not terribly hopeful about this. they have an uneasy relationship to say the least with the administration because of the nsa activities. so what is the likelihood that the u.s. -- that government and the private sector are going to get it right? >> well i think there's one thing that has to happen and that has started to happen a lot more which is a public/private partnership. you cannot succeed in cyber security with the two interests working together especially in the silicon valley. that's where the experts are. they know how to do security. i think the government can learn
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a lot about it because otherwise, in this particular case, for example, isis is getting its propaganda out there. maybe not national security compromise but one thing it did do is increase awareness in mainstream of what jihadists are doing and possibly effort in recruiting efforts are being helped by this. there's a lot of stuff going on here. if there's one thing to be done rather than having a summit inside the beltway in washington, d.c. i think it's really time to have a major cyber security summit inside of silicon valley where the government comes to them and learns about everything from basic security to high level national security. >> i think that's what you will -- exactly what you're going to be hearing later today. that's what the white house has in mind is going to stanford to hold the summit. thanks hemu for being with us today. the new congress is in town. will anything be different? this is "andrea mitchell
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based on the legislative strategy they produced over the next ten days or so there's not an indication they are willing to change their tactics, but we continue to hope they will. >> white house press secretary josh earnest today sounding pessimistic about them meeting today at the white house between the president and congressional leaders. all of the biggest hitters at that meeting are republicans. will either side be willing to compromise? joining me now, two guests who remember a time when compromise wasn't a dirty word in washington. tom davis served in the house until 2008 and chaired the national republican congressional committee and former democratic congressman martin fost represented texas for 26 years. these political rivals wrote the book, the partisan divide congress in crisis.
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your timing is apt. >> did you alternate chapters? >> weal natured and commented on the others. we're pretty much in agreement with what caused this pluralization. a lot of good people can't act that way. >> are we talking about money, gerrymandering, all of the above? >> absolutely we did an outline at the beginning, 16 chapters we didn't alternate but picked the chapter each was comfortable then commented. i think it's a pretty balanced view. >> also the new media, i throw that in with campaign finance, with the internet the stuff coming over and websites are catered to certain groups and feed off of that. >> the velocity of it all -- the news cycles are instantous -- >> look at the boehner vote you had members getting 1,000 calls saying dump boehner. one member on the floor said i wish john boehner had one friend that could call and say vote for him. that affects things. >> this all starts with the way the districts are drawn. what we recommend is you have
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bipartisan commissions to draw congressional districts. the way they are drawn right now by legislators -- who are representing narrow point of view. the districts are safe democratic districts and safe republican districts and there's no incentive to compromise for the other side because if you do, you'll get somebody in the primary run against you. the system is rigged against compromise. >> and the fight today in the house is over homeland security the funding for homeland security connected by house republican leadership, perhaps under pressure from one wing of the party to this whole immigration debate this is what the speaker had to say about it. >> this is not about actually the issue of immigration, what it is, it's about the president acting lawlessly. our goal here is to fund the department of homeland security. our second goal is to stop the president's executive overreach.
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this is not the way our government was intended to work. >> on the other side of the fence, nancy pelosi. >> what are they thinking? no bill in december. paris, the world is galvanized on security but not the house republicans. >> the more things change the more they stay the same. >> andrea this is really nonsense. if i were in the republican leadership -- i'm a democrat chair of the democratic congressional campaign committee, they don't need advice from me. if i were in republican leadership, i would tell members of my conference we'll have some votes on immigration, you can vote on the subject but ultimately we have to pass a homeland security bill because the country is at threat and world is at threat and we can't walk away and not pass this bill. >> they are funded. it's a continuing resolution one year when the democrats controlled it it was may before they got funding for the entire government. so this goes really on both
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sides. members really cater more to the base because the only election that matters to 80% of house members is the primary -- >> but tom, not -- only having a continuing resolution means that the department -- >> i agree. >> they can't do things they want to do right now. >> of course. >> spend at last year's levels and this is a serious threat -- >> i'm explaining it. >> this is a time for leadership, this is a time when john boehner -- and i think mitch mcconnell understands this, john boehner ought to say, okay, you can vote on the immigration issue, we don't like what o manybama did but let's pass and fund homeland security. >> what's happened to minority parties now, they no longer act as minority parties, they act like opposition parties and. >> in the book you write among other things about the partisan divide like much of the public today we're appalled by the current state of politics in america. it hasn't always been like this and doesn't have to be like this in the future.
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>> that's correct. >> congress is down to a 7% approval rating. >> staff only. and it's fixable. the good news is it is fixable, not just on the districts because you're still going to have single party districts because of residential voting rights and others. but you also have the money in politics which is worse after campaign finance reform and citizens united than it was before. >> let me ask you both something on which you can probably agree. do you agree the vice president or president should have been marching in paris? >> absolutely. >> no question about it. the only question i have where was the chief of staff of white house, why didn't he pick up the phone or walk in to see the president and say mr. president, we've got to have a high level person at this rally? >> that's the question i have if you can excuse the president, let's just pause at that where is the staff and people advising him and being willing to say, you're going to have to get on a plane tomorrow this is
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important. >> or the vice president should go. i think if biden had gone no one would have said anything, because of security concerns for the president, we all understand that. this was a mistake. i hope they don't make any more mistakes like this any time soon. >> he needs his hand strengthened from a democratic point of view if he wants to deal with congress. he'll have a lot of stuff coming krogs his desk and be on the wrong side of it with public opinion. >> the book is "partisan divide congress in crisis." great to see you both. >> thanks for having us. >> who would have thought legendary tv comedian bob newhart would have been trending on twitter during the championship game between oregon and ohio state. here's why. notice a bit of a resemblance between the referee and tv legend newhart tweeted, in regards to my new career as head ref for osu, i don't have a
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good job! still running in the morning? yeah. getting your vegetables every day? when i can. [ bop ] [ male announcer ] could've had a v8. two full servings of vegetables for only 50 delicious calories. welcome to the program today. we're live in paris, paris talking about one thing today. charlie hebdo and specifically the new issue of charlie hebdo rolling off the newsstands as we speak off the presses and into stands by midnight is the exact time line we're hearing right now. what's been happening over the course of the day, people going out early to get their copies of that issue reserved. we're hearing that the number of copies of this has been up to 3 million and even with that an unprecedented number for this relatively small magazine devoted to satire there is
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still a complete sellout from all of the news stands we're talking to right now. a big day in that respect and the contents of that new issue, a very emotional afternoon as a press conference came together at the offices where now the new issue has been cobbled together with the remnants of that team saying they are committed to making this issue a stand against the kind of extremism that attempted to silence their colleagues. they said they wrote both in sadness and in joy to try to bring the message to the world. i talked to one of the men who spoke at that conference. patrick, he was both a writer at charlie hebdo and in a strange turn of events ended up being one of the first responders of the scene of the attack since he's also an emergency room doctor. take a listen what he said to me. >> president obama was here american people is in paris. that's all the people all over