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>> that is a shootout with police. the brothers fired repeatedlyality the police car as -- repeatedly at the police car as it pulled away in reverse. and the gunman follows and continues to fire at the retreating officers. today it is a very different scene in paris. french president francois holland paid tribute to the three officers killed saying they died so we could live free. four injuryish victims killed in the market siege were laid to rest in jerusalem. 2,000 people came to paid their respects. coming up we'll dig into the decades of anti-semitism that is driving many french jews to move to israel. and back in paris, the french assembly met for the first time since the attacks and they broke out into a spontaneous rendition of the french national song after the names of the victims
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were read aloud. [ singing ] investigators are looking into who trained the attackers and where they obtained their weapons. the bulgarians say they have one french national under arrest for suspected tied to one of the brothers cherif kouachi. the suspect was in court today and will be extradited to france due to plotting terrorist attacks. and here in the states the white house is reiterating its commitment to france after saying it was a mistake not sending a high-ranking official to sunday's march. >> the united states has been in a position to share some information with french investigators who are trying to get to the bottom of what exactly happened and who may have been involved in the attack. the french will continue to find a very willing partner and strong allies here in the united states and at the white house. >> meantime the "charlie hebdo"
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journalists are finishing wednesday's issues the first since last week's attacks. they are planning 3 million copies of the cover depicting the prophet muhammad and carrying je suis charlie sign. and ronan farrow is in paris. and you spoke with the widowed girlfriend of the "charlie hebdo" editor and how is she coping right now? >> reporter: that is right. the partner of stephane charbonnier and in this square behind me when hundreds of thousands people came together krystal, in the wake of the attack, the picture that many of them were holding was charb's. that is what he is known by one name known by everyone in paris and across france. they are all grieving for him. but the grief is much more personal for the one woman, a member of france's supreme court and his partner, jeannette
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bougrab. >> i don't sleep. i don't eat. i just drink some water. i try -- i would like to die sometimes. i think it is not -- and it is very difficult because, you know -- >> what makes you feel that you would like to die? >> because i would like to give my life for my -- for my boyfriend. you know he's a great man. you know he is my hero because he stands up for freedom. >> when you first heard something terrible had happened at the office? >> when i heard some news i tried to call him but i didn't understand -- he didn't answer me. and he answers me immediately when i call him usually. and i don't understand so i call one of our friends and say what has happened.
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he said, i don't know i don't know. so i talk -- a took a cab, a taxi and i go to the -- to "charlie hebdo" -- >> yes. >> -- and i -- i was very weak so i saw a lot of policemen and the french president was here and i told him, where is charb? where is charb? and he did not answer me. and a guy said he died. and i -- i fell on the ground and i cried. but i don't want to -- i didn't want to believe it. i didn't want to believe. so i want to the building to see char sh because i didn't want to believe. it is not possible. it is a nightmare. >> reporter: a moment of real heart break there. and everyone who know charb is also respecting. we have the editors of the new edition coming together just today to announce what is going
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to be in the new issue, the challenges of finding something that will resonate in an important moment. they talked about drawing is cathartic for them and i sat down with one who said this is time for the world to come together and set aside petty politics and take a stand. that is resonating because the issue is sold out already, people coming to stands early to serve -- to reserve their copies. >> thank you, ronan farrow. a solemn day in jerusalem as four bodies were laid to rest after the attacks at the kosher supermarket. and a men moy headine is covering this for us. if you could give us a sense there? >> reporter: krystal, it was a somber scene, people gathered from the early hours of the morning. the bodies of the four victims arrived in israel at about 4:00 a.m. from paris and brought to
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the cemetery around noon and met by the leading figures of the country, including the israeli president, the prime members of the opposition and a french minister who accompanied the bodies. the tone of the messages that were coming out from all of those who spoke and addressed the crowd was one of tremendous amount of resolution. there was the israeli prime minister and the president, both who warned about the rising tide of anti-semitism in europe but more importantly who mostly not only said the reason why these individuals were killed was because they were jewish but also put a little bit of responsibility on the leaders of the international community to do more to combat that growing anti-semitism. in terms of the people in the crowds it was a large show of people that came out. many of them holding signs, waving the french flag waving the israeli flag. we spoke to a large contingent of foreign french jews who came here to israel and now live here. many of them expressing solidarity families of those
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that were here to bury their relatives. but it was a sad day, a somber day and one that the entire country certainly felt the entire country was mourning, according to the israeli president. >> amymn, this is abby there is a rise of jews into israel. you are in israel how is the migration being handled there? >> reporter: well immigration from europe particularly to israel has always been a sensitive one given the history of europe and what has happened with the jewish population. the israeli government affords a lot of resources to try to make that possible and make it as easy as possible. the world jewish agency certainly plays a very important role in that. the issue of immigration to israel is a sensitive one. the israeli government said every jew around the world is allowed and welcome to israel the incest ral homeland as they call it but at the same time
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deny civil rights to palestinians born in israel and that is perspective in the context. there is this tension in terms of the issue but the israeli government spares nothing to help individuals and families try to get on their feet once they arrive here and in a performance called alia and that is the journey of coming here to israel, to return to israel as the jewish population here describes it. >> thank you so much for that report. our next guest is covering the rise of anti-semitism in france for years and also at the kosher supermarket covering the hostage scene as it unfolded. joining us now is mark wietsman a contributor at le mond and author of france's toxic hate. mark thank you for being with us. >> thank you. >> so mark there are calls in israel for french jews to return back to their home state and
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there are more than 650,000 jews there but leaders in france say jews are an integral part of the country and not flee in the face of terror. are they returning to israel or are they staying where they are? >> i'm sorry, can you repeat the question? the sound is awful from here. >> are we seeing a rise of jews returning to israel or are they staying in france? >> there is a significant number of jews fleeing to israel today, yes. more than in the past decades. but most of the jews want to stay in france and -- keep staying. last friday at the demonstration in front of the store, the jewish gathering, young jews started to sing the israeli hymn and they were
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answered by other jews who gives a good image of what is going on now. people are divided. but mainly they want to stay. especially in this time of crisis. you just don't leave the country when things are at stake -- when people don't -- you just -- you try to stand up. >> we heard israeli prime minister netanyahu talking about how these people were murdered because they were jewish and for folks who follow we know that anti-semitism in those incidents are alive and well in europe. how does this incident change some of the dynamics where we have heard -- some claim that anti-semitism is only a historic or rare problem in europe. >> there has been a problem, an anti-semitic problem growing in france and certainly in europe
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at large in the past 14 years. the reasons for that are complex to analyze but basically, you have a number of factors. the -- the growing muslim population and the illiterate part of it the youngsters. the anger among -- in the suburbs, but also the rebirth of the extreme right. those factors combined and the crisis of course the economical crisis. and the -- i would say for france, the identity crisis. france is a country that now has -- asks a lot of questions about itself. it doesn't really know where to stand in global -- in this global time. and everybody is troubled. as a result the anti-semitism rises. so it is always -- anti-semitism is a sign of a deep crisis going on through the whole society.
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and you just have to -- to fight back you know. >> marc wietsman thank you for being with us. up next it is a busy day at white house. from terrorism to the president's call for new cyber security laws. that could be an area of compromise. "the cycle" rolls on. it is tuesday, january 13th. ring ring! progresso! i can't believe i'm eating bacon and rich creamy cheese before my sister's
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i've talked to both the speaker as well as mitch mcconnell about this and i think weigh agree this is an area
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where we can work hard together and get some legislation done and make sure that we are much more effective in protecting the american people from these kinds of cyber attacks. >> that was the president there. at his first meeting with the new congressional leadership at the white house and highlighting at least one area of potential compromise -- cyber security. as we speak, the president is speaking at the national cyber security and communication integration center in arlington, virginia. and he's calling there for stronger cyber laws. this of course comes one day after the twitter and you tube accounts for the pentagon central command were hacked and replaced with pro-isis prop granda. those accounts are back online and this afternoon the office of the defense secretary ordered all passwords changed on 50 media accounts. this is in the the only security issue. they are dealing with the course of criticism over the decision not to send a high-profile
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representative to sunday's unity march in paris, only growing louder, the criticism, not abating. senior white house correspondent chris jansing is live on the north lawn and what is the white house saying about the twin issue, the cyber security and the paris aftermath. >> reporter: a lot is going on. the president is over at the d.h.s. office on cyber security. it is something they are talking about. this is the second of three days that they are presenting things that have to do with this type of issue. look, 100 million americans recently have been hit one way or another by the internet breaches. the most recent cent-com yesterday as the president was speakingality the federal trade commission and then of course we had sony which is a national security threat and some other corporate issues with target where a lot of people's credit card information was shared and then something very different from that but you'll remember
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that the nude photos of a lot of stars in hollywood went out there. all of those kinds of things show us just how vulnerable we are. so the president proposing legislation that would do a number of things. one, try to pave the way for government and corporate corporation so when they find there is a hack like that they can learn some things to help avoid it in the future. new law enforcement tools to prosecute people who are involved in cyber crime. but talking to one white house official, they put it this way. no one should be under the illusion that we will ever get to 100% security. the aim of what is going on right now is to make it a lot better, get closer to that goal. of course, questions continuing as well at the briefing today about why higher-level officials weren't at the march in paris on sunday after the white house admitted yesterday they should have done that and acknowledged that the president was not told exactly what was going to be going on. there seems to be some
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disconnect about exactly what would happen there. i think that the one thing we learned today at the briefing was, of course there is a protocol. they get so many requests for either the president or other administration officials, whether it is from organizations or from another government they are in undated with these things and there is a procedure they go through. they would not say how high this got up besides the fact it didn't get to the president's level but this was obviously a unique situation. you had a major terror attack and you had this march and you had at least 44 different leaders that came in they wish that had done it differently and when i asked specifically are there different protocols, procedures being reviewed and put in place, they did not say that was happening because they in their argument say this is such a unique circumstance that there is no need to change sort of the protocols in place right
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now. >> all right. very interesting, chris jansing, thank you, as all. and joining us from across town in washington we have howard fineman, editorial director at the huffington post. thanks for being with us. >> hi, krystal. >> both parties want to do something about cyber security. there is some bipartisan consensus on the need for action. do they actual lay agree on what to do? >> well they don't agree in the details, but i think there is a lot of agreement on the basic ideas that the president put forward and indeed rattling around on the hill for several years now. the democrats in the senate didn't take any action on it last year they were worried about a lack of consensus. but the idea of sharing between the government and industry is a sensible one. the idea of ratcheting up law enforcement efforts that relate to cyber crimes is another one i think people agree with. and the one about giving people notification if there has been a breach as well.
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now people in the democratic coalition will tell you they are very worried about the details of this and what it may mean as far as breach -- breaches of privacy sanctioned by the government into people's individual lives. but that's the balance we'll have to get. the bigger problem is not -- krystal, is not the details of the bill to me. the bigger problem is the poisoned atmosphere in the capitol which one meeting today is not going to solve by any means. >> that is right howard. sorry for my voice today. the first two republican major initiatives so far this year keystone and immigration. why would they send up two things that the president would veto. stop it ari. >> i have to say toure, i think i love this voice. >> howard, we're giving him a break because he is working sick. even sick with the throat thing, it still has to be a long question. >> it sounds like harvey
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weinstein, doesn't. you know harvey weinstein sounds like that. so the question -- i won't ask to you repeat the question but i -- [ laughter ] >> but i can tell you that even though they had this photo on meeting today, the staff people that i talked to who got word about it and were there said that the team was not exactly balmy in that room during that meeting because the president has already issued five veto threats and the republicans are trying to stick it to him immediately on the keystone pipeline. so they are talking about areas where they might agree, that is the sort of public face of it. but what is actually happening on the hill is that the knives are already out and the veto threats are already out and a lot of republicans at the base of john boehner's party in the house think the president is a renegade dictator. they talk that way. and among democrats, they have no faith in the republicans and they have a few doubts some of them do about the negotiating spine of the president. they are worried about that as
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well. >> and howard as we were just hearing from chris jansing, a lot of chatter about the white house sending no one to represent us in paris, something i'm sure you've been following closely, in diplomacy, it is the simple acts of showing up that go along way. even if it didn't get to his desk as the united states this is something you should probably show up for. what do you think about the response now saying we'll send john kerry this weekend? is that simply too little too late? >> well sure it will keep the story -- they are damned if they do and they are damned if they don't having made the initial mistakement it is curious. but first of all, some of the people are pounding the table talking about our failure to symbolically support free speech and freedom. some of the people who are the president's enemies, come on. they are not exactly coming into court with clean hands there themselves. plus a lot of the people who were marching there, including
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the leaders of hungary and other countries that trample all over free speech themselves so there is a bit of hypock rassy in the parade route. all of that said we should have been there. and it is curious why the chief of staff and the inner circle of the president weren't ringing alarm bell an saying -- and saying, look we have to do something. and over the weekend they were on auto pilot, thinking about the state of the unor or other things -- union or other things. for them to say they don't care about the symbolism of politics is totally untrue. this president has -- has thrived on the pageantry that he's presented, both as a candidate and as president. it is a very curious thing that -- >> and it is important to point out, krystal, the french president was the first to come to the white house after 9/11. that is interesting. >> and while he has thrived at certain times on the pageantry and symbolism and at times they
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are clumsy with these things. howard fineman, thank you very much. >> thank you guys. the hunt for suspects widens and a new arrest that we'll tell you about. live to the streets of paris. and how france's european neighbors are reacting and why it matters. more "cycle" still ahead. and now angie's list is revolutionizing local service again. you can easily buy and schedule services from top-rated providers. conveniently stay up to date on progress. and effortlessly turn your photos into finished projects with our angie's list app. visit angieslist.com today. ♪
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french authorities believe the armed used in the paris attacks may have come from abroad. this from the a.p. citing a police official that said the stockpile of arms might have come from out of the country and suggests some kinds of deep pockets. we are getting the closest shot of the brothers on the attack at "charlie hebdo." this is the video we played at the top of the show. meantime the hunt for believed accomplices continues and there is a new arrest to tell you about. ron allen is in paris with the latest on the investigation. what do we know? >> reporter: [ inaudible ].
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>> ron if you can hear me what, is the latest? we may have lost ronal allen. we'll get back to him as soon as we it. >> we do want to turn to another topic. the siege discussion among the france's european neighbors. look at this the front page in spain, the europe rising to the challenge of jihadism and from europe arms for terror. and while a brit winning the golden globe is still topped for the guardian in the u.k. the rest of the front page is about the attacks including an article about potential scandal of internet spying programs. for a look at this we are joined by david roth cough, author of national inin secure of american leadership in this day and age. hi. >> hi, how are you? >> you look at those newspapers
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and think about europe, knowing the history of violence quite well how does france having this happen to it fit into the experience of these other countries, spain, which has had terror attacks an the election attack germany with world war ii history and how does other countries looking at france now joining the fight as strong as ever? >> well i think it drives the old message, the fact that there have been attacks before forward. but i think there is a new narrative which is more important. and the new narrative is that of the foreign fighters returning home. there are about a thousand people a month going to syria and iraq and training and coming back. we've seen people involved in this attack go back to syria. think of that think of it then if you are europe and you see a future in which more and more attacks like this are possible. and i think that is what is bringing everybody together. it is very worrisome, but i think one of the things about it that we ought to look at and see
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as an opportunity is that the europeans haven't always respond wld we said -- when we said we want to do this in the middle east. there was a moment after 9/11 and we let it slip. well the moment is back. i think there is a moment for broader western cooperation, transatlantic cooperation in dealing with the foreign fighters an the-- and the growing threat and i think that might be encouraging. this is not a silver lining this is a big tragedy. but there is an opportunity to work together and now the motivation. >> and you talk about how the way we respond to it determines the failure and successes of the extremist fighters. you also say what we're doing is not really working. so what should we be doing that we're not? >> well i think it is absolutely right. i think the thing we must do now is recognize that the threat is not al qaeda. the threat is not isis. the threat is militant extremism
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which exists from west africa through to parts of china and there are a host of countries, us, the europeans, the chinese, the russians podder at states in the -- moderate states in the middle east that have a stake in fighting this. and part of the military objective has to be containing it and foiling attacks but part of it is creating an alternative on the ground into the countries to the message of the militants creating an alternative for people to say, i don't want to go this way, here is a government or opportunity that works. that is a big job and a job of many years and a job that needs the people in the region to do it but it needs our support and global -- >> well the ux k. and france -- the u.k. and frebs said-- and france are looking forward. >> well david cameron said
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things that they want to do that impinge on privacy and we don't want to cut back on the freedoms we have at home if we do that they do gain and they do win. so a balance has to be struck. >> david, hebdo is back tomorrow with the issue with the prophet on the cover. again sticking a finger in the eye. is that the right call? >> absolutely. i think it is the only call. they have a character and they have to show they are maintaining their character. i think the image on the cover is touching in the context of that. and this is the key and the message of "charlie hebdo," we must carry on and be who we are and not let these kinds of events change us and that is the best possible message n. some is ways there was debate about do we show or not show the cartoons and so forth. but we don't debate do we show
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the terrorism or the reaction to the terrorism? and when we show the terrorism, it is when we build the big audiences around the terrorism that the terrorists win. because their goal is to spread freer and -- fear and terror. and we have to respond to these things in a way that each time they do this and each time one person goes out and makes an attack and we don't spin ourselves up and give them the victory fear they are looking for. >> and if you were running a tv station, you would not show the terror attacks? >> no i think we show them. with a certain degree of balance and cover these things. i don't think the hist aerial serves the person. the guy in sydney wasn't necessarily associated with anybody. he went in and had a rifle and an ipad and he showed some images and he took over the media for a couple of days. and that was a choice. we made a choice too. we said yeah we're going to let this -- we're going to speculate and there were shows and we're talking about is he isis or is this part of some big
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trend? well, we don't have to do all of that. >> it is a tough balance. >> it is. >> david roth kopf we know you are going to the region and we look forward to more reports from you when you get back. >> okay. >> up next inside of the world of a major global power player vladimir putin. >> he is in power control and he is in a good position and he has a strong entitlement that russia had a lot of stuff taken away from it and that russia has the right to get it back. ♪ the nissan rogue, with safety
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the new cycle begins in indonesia where divers have the second black box from airasia 8501. they hope the cockpit voice and data recorders will tell them why the plane went down killing all 162 people on board. and here in the u.s. a slight warm-up is on deck. and i mean slight. still 10-20 degrees below average but by friday that
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should slip to 10-20 degrees above average. chicago could rise above freezing for the first time. look at that. in many days. and last night the ohio state university upset the university of oregon and proved themselves to be the beth college football -- the best college football team in all of the land. it is nice when things are decided by a playoffoff. thanks to outstanding play by cardale jones. two years ago he tweeted why should we have to go to class if we came here to play football. right now he is not going to the nfl and focusing on his degree for now. >> thanks for that krystal. and right now most of the world is huddling to figure out to confront the foreign policy challenge, the threat of radical islamic terrorism. but the challenge of dealing with russia a nation that seems to play by its own rules. vladimir putin has been declared
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a totalitarian hypocrisy and is worth $40 billion making him the richest in the nation. how did he rise from kgb spy to dictator. it is all explained in a documentary called putin's way. >> in the soviet union or russia, he is very worried about how he will leave. he doesn't want to leave in a coffin or in a jail cell. he has got so many guilty secrets and so many people have been killed and he doesn't trust anyone to keep him safe if he steps down from power. so he is the master of the kremlin and a prisoner in it. >> and that airplanes tonight at 10:00 p.m. eastern on pbs. and with us now, the correspondent jill find leann. what a fascinating documentary. we all watched it. one thing that stuck out to me is how he is described as being a charmer. you do not put putin and
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charming in the same sentence. talk to us about that. >> well then you've probably seen him crooning blueberry hill because that was the charm sequence we included. he charms in many different ways. he charms a western world by making people think he or inishlly making people think he wanted to be like the west. he he has huge economic clout particularly in europe and so there is different types of charm. domestically, he controls the media. he controls the leaders of power. he can influence what people see and hear about himself and he has a cordery of very talented image amortizationers around him. >> and there is a mirage that there is business going on and they've changed since the soviet days ab you catalogues how that goes back to corruption that serves putin. let's look at part of that. >> he has intimate knowledge of how the system works and how he
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said corruption goes right to the top. >> >> translator: russian business entirely depends on protection. you need protection. it is called having a roof or in russia kresha. and the more kresha you have the more successful your business will be. so every businessman dreams about giving presents and gaining protection. and if you give a present to the protection, it is like god himself watching your back. >> how important is that to his long-term power, this link to, as you argue, a lot of the private sector? >> you know corruption is not new in russia but the people we interview in the documentary argue he has elevated to a system. and the system is designed to keep him and his cottery of his small group of very influential people around him in power. it is -- they create this
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corrupt system and they profit from it and then they have to ensure that they don't lose that power because if they do then they make themselves vulnerable. so that is it is argued by mikael cottar kofski the russia colig arc, is that they are what they have entrusted that they will never lose the power or the proceeds of the corrupt practices they are involved with. >> how did he amass $40 billion? >> it isn't what it was today. what we document is we go back to his earliest days in st. petersburg when the soviet union was collapsing. at that point he was then unemployed kgb officer and unemployed spy and came back with st. petersburg but with not a lot of prospects but he had a very good contact. a map by the sub chuk has about
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to become the first democratic democratically elected mayor and he appointed him as chair of a foreign economic relations committee that allowed putin great access to foreign currency but to russian resources that he was then bartering ostensibly to bring food into russia at that point but there are corruption investigations that we talk about that suggest, well the resources may have gone out and not all of the food came in. >> and gillian, how is he being viewed today at this point considering the fact that the russian economy is struggling because of the u.s. and sanctions. >> i think it is important to remember that his rule -- he had the great fortune to rule ate time when -- rule at a time when oil prices were high and that makes life easier when you are ruler and some of the wealth trickles down and it has an
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anesthetizing effect. and what is interesting to watch is now that oil prices are not so high and the economy is continuing to deteriorate in russia and the ruble is in free fall. western sanctions are being impose and they are starting to bite. and i think this is one of the big unanswered questions. what happens in an authoritarian state like that with a character like vladimir putin when times get tough. >> a very powerful documentu amountary. jillian, thank you very much. and something that can bank you cash like an oligarch. a look ahead like any other. [ fishing rod casting line, marching band playing ] [ male announcer ] the rhythm of life. [ whistle blowing ] where do you hear that beat? campbell's healthy request soup lets you hear it in your heart. [ basketball bouncing ] heart healthy. great taste. [ m'm... ] [ tapping ] sounds good. campbell's healthy request. m'm! m'm! good.® curling up in bed with a favorite
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it is time to peer into our krystal ball. not that one. reuters breaking views prediction from money to krystal ballkris crystal ball. not that one. rob, it's always great to have you. happy new year. >> thanks, happy new year to you guys. >> we had you on a year ago. how great did those predictions do? we predicted energy prices would decline. check. we said germany would win the world cup. a lot of our friends weren't too happy with that prediction, but it was right on. the scottish would reject independence. the big ones we did okay. it's a difficult business. who thought we would be talking about war with russia? >> let's start with banks too big to fail.
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that was a big thing over the past few years. everyone seemed to want to be a member of that club. people are wanting to remove themselves from that membership. >> if you're too big to fail systemically important, you're going to have a lot more capital on your books. that means your returns are going to go down. being a member of this club -- hey, that means i'm a really safe bank. depositors won't flee but actually it is reducing returns. it is not really working out for the banks. just today we saw a lawsuit in washington. metlife is suing the u.s. government, well it's regulators -- not a good thing to do. they're seeking to get rid of this designation because they don't want to hold extra capital
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which brings down their products. it's weird to call it an opportunity, but that's how wall street works. this cyberattacks the things like sony j.p. morgan, home depot, all these things are creating huge needs for companies to insure themselves for the huge losses that come from cyberattacks. there's a new insurance business that's cropping up right now. it will double this year from $1 billion to $2 billion. you have to come up with standards. are you doing the minimum? do you keep a lock on in your house? do you lock around your pool? you'll start to do that around companies, which could be quite good. >> makes you wonder if we're going to get a credit default cybersecurity swap. >> definitely. >> joke there. >> metlife maybe. >> it's sad when you have to explain your jokes.
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>> right. it totally is. >> it is sad. >> then you hack into the company and you buy the insurance so you make the money. >> is everybody going to say that rob's jokes are sad now? >> rob is just trying to be a good guest and play along and get invited back to the show. i got my notes from you that japan will be the first regime to almost literally drop money from helicopters. >> if you really want to stimulate the economy, get the helicopters out. he didn't actually mean it. 30 years ago, someone raised the issue in reference to japan when it was having its first of many slumps. the problem right now with japan is it is not stimulating. 1.7 trillion of government bonds are doing that quantitative
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raising, it's not working. it is a variation of the helicopter cash flow. we think it is going to happen. japan is sort of facing an existential moment. it has to figure out a way to grow. it's going to do whatever it takes. >> another exciting one of your list is about marijuana. you don't have to watch "the wire" to know we don't have a war on drugs that works very well, right? although if you do watch "the wire," it is a great show. >> it is a great show. >> i am completely obsessed. >> we have the map up there. this is the story people remember from the past year. a lot of states that have taken a step towards
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decriminalization. so far, you're sort of wrong in the most recent big republican move actually cracked down on d.c. for trying to do that very thing. do you think something is really going to change this quickly? >> let's put a time frame on it. we think it's going to happen. we think we'll start to see it happen for two reasons. one is the election cycle. when you see people like rand paul that are going to be effective and important in the debate talking about the liberalization of marijuana laws and the war on drugs, i think it is going to bring it for the first time, seriously, into the public debate among republicans. it is also true you're going to be able to get baked in washington, d.c. where everybody lives. maybe it's not actually going to have such a bad effect on the
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atmosphere. >> it's already happening. >> i have no evidence that it is actually happening. certainly not in new york. but i do think you are going to start to see that recognition that it is not as dangerous and the cost of enforcing against it is huge and it's going to become part of the issue. that's why i think it is going to move guardforward. >> i would put my money behind that one. we'll be right back with a final word right after this. with real aged cheddar now in a convenient cup. new stouffer's mac cups. made for you to love. you're driving along, having a perfectly nice day, when out of nowhere a pick-up truck slams into your brand new car. one second it wasn't there and the next second... boom! you've had your first accident. now you have to make your first claim. so you talk to your insurance company and... boom! you're blindsided for a second time. they won't give you enough money to replace your brand new car. don't
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as investigators widen the net for suspects new video of the paris terror attacks. it is tuesday, january 13th, and this is "now." >> new developments in the international manhunt. >> security officials are trying to determine the exact relationship between last week's attackers. >> the search for more people with ties to the suspects. >> the passage of time allows them to move. >> the first funerals for the victims are being held. >> in paris and jerusalem. >> it has been a very somber day. >> people are on edge. >> security is very tight. >> the attacks against paris and the continuing propaganda. >> lots of questions after the u.s. central commands twitter and youtube sites were hacked. >> this is a huge embarrassment for the pentagon and military. there is also defiance here.