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the jobless wage recoveries are about and their part of the story all along. >> ron does not agree with that last point, that is "all in" for this evening. >> how did you only lose four nuggets to the crew, it was taken and i said i wanted it back. >> it was almost impossible for me to not run into your set and take one. >> oh,man, that's old. >> i don't feel like i need one. >> you don't. >> you cured me. >> so gross. >> thanks for joining us this hour. happy tuesday. all right. three days after 9/11 on september 14th, 2001. congress voted on authorization to use military force against
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those responsible for the 9/11 attacks. it was just three days after 9/11 happened. the vote in the senate on that resolution was 98 to 0. the vote in the house on that resolution was 420 to 1. ask it was one member of congress, and she was brave enough to stand on the floor of the house and give a speech to explain why she was voting that way one no one else was. she rose, she was a strong person, a clear speaker, and has been throughout her career. when she stood up to give that speech, her voice shook with emotion and recognition with the seriousness of what she was about to do. >> the gentlewoman. i rise with a very heavy heart. one that is filled with sorrow for the families and the loved ones who were killed and injured this week. only the most foolist and the most callused would not understand the grief that has gripped our people and people across the world. this unspeak about act on the united states really forced me
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to rely on my moral compass, my concious, and my god. i'm convinced that military action will not prevent further acts of terrorism against the united states. >> in a is three days after 9/11. she was the one single vote in congress, either house, against using military force as our response to 9/11. she didn't believe that war was the way to stop terrorist attacks. she was the only one. today, six days after terrorist attacks hit the nation of france, today, this happened in the french parliament.
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they were holding a moment of silence for the victim's of the attacks. and you see moments of parliament turn their heads to the side. first one member of parliament starts singing and then they all join in. ♪ they're singing the french national. the last time they spontaneously started singing the national anthem was 1918 when they announced the armistice that ended world war i. after that remarkable patriotic moment today, they took a vote.
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they took a vote on military force against isis. on reupping their country's authorization to use military force to fight against isis, specifically in iraq. what happened in that vote today was shades of barbara lee. the vote to reauthorize french bombing raids today was 488 in favor, and one opposed. one member said he voted know because he didn't think that bombing in the middle east would reduce the likelihood of more terrorist attacks at home. he said what happened this past week showed that france cannot protect itself at home and that's what they should focus on. 488 to 1 was that vote today. that happened in the french
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parliament today. online today, the terrorist group isis released a video that appears to show a young boy, maybe 9 or 10 years old, it appears to show that kid executing two men. it is about 7:30 minutes long. it is in russian. the men that appear to be killed in the video appear to be shot in the head. the kid is tapped on the head and urged to go ahead by the adult bearded isis guy. they are russian speaking men and are accused of being russian spies. it appears to be the same kid that appears multiple times in a very high production value isis video they released in november. in that video he says he is from kazakhstan. it is not the first time that isis show cased kids in their propaganda.
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it is part of how they aim to terrorize. the idea is they will be a multigenerational threat, but part of the threat is also that they're so fervent, right? they have no worry about using kids as fighters. and they're not alone. boko haram is said to have used a girl as a suicide bomber this weekend that is said to be as young as 10. isis photos of kids on social media accounts. the use of kids. it's part of how they want to be viewed, part of why they want to be feared. up to and including a video today that showed a child being used as a gunman were as an executioner of two men. today in chicago, one mother of an american teenager, a 19-year-old boy that tried to leave the united states to reportedly go fight with isis. today this illinois mother made a public plea to isis, to the
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leader of isis, to please top targeting kids as isis recruiting. her son was 19 years old when he was arrested in chicago's o'hare airport. he was attempted to fly to i istanbul, and then israel. he left a letter saying why he wanted to leave the united states and join isis. and he wanted his siblings to go with him. federal authorities caught him at o'hare, and they charged him with attempting to provide support to a terrorist group. that 19-year-old plead not guilty to those federal charges today. his parents, his mother, made this public plea come determining specifically the terrorist attacks in france this
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past week, and pleading with isis, the leader of isis, calling him by name pleading they stop trying to attract children and young people into their ranks. >> and the strongest possible times, the tactics of isis and groups like it and we condemn the brainwashing and the recruiting of children through social media and the internet. we have a message for isis, leave our children alone. >> leave our children alone, she
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says, but her son, both of her sons and her daughter are alleged to have tried to leave this country to go fight with isis in syria or iraq. the eldest son got caught and none of them made it there. whether or not it is alone vote on it. president obama met with top democrats and top republicans from both houses of congress today.
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the white house gave a written readout, they call it a readout to the press afterwards describing what happened in that meeting. one of the things the leadership was talking about with president obama was the prospect of a debate, and maybe a vote about whether to authorize the u.s. military fight in iraq and syria, but apparently there is no rush and no immediate expectation of any action. let alone a debate. for all of the chest pounding and concern and expressions out outrage and sympathy about isis, what they have done, what happened in france, why is this there is no real inclination in
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washington to debate what our country is doing to fight against isis? we have a policy for fighting isis. literally fighting them using the u.s. military. it is on auto pilot and it has been for five months while our elected officials have said nothing about it and they apparently have no urgent plans to do so. it's remarkable in context, right? maybe nobody in congress cares. benefit of the doubt, maybe they think the u.s. military bombing campaign against isis has nothing to do with the ability to carry out or inspire terrorist attacks around the world.
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terrorist attacks around the world. maybe they believe that. if that is the case, then still we're back to the important question of why we're doing it then. the vote on that issue in france today, after singing the national anthem in parliament for the first time in 100 years, it was shades of barbara lee, right? it was one vote against, and 488 votes in favor. the vote on this same issue in washington is zero to zero to zero. our politicians do not care enough to ask the question. even with everything else they want to have to do with thunderstorm and isis. thank you for joining us, ms. dion. we got this readout tonight following the president's meeting with congressional leaders. they continue to say that an authorization for the use of
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military force will be discussed, perhaps in coming weeks, do we have any meet on the bones in terms of how that will proceed? >> i think you have to go back to where this discussion started. a year and a half ago, the president gave a speech and said before the war against isis started, and said that he felt that this 2001 authorization that you spoke about, which is specifically against al qaeda and has been used to target not only al qaeda, but what the administration has called associated groups which are groups in yemen and somalia, pakistan -- president obama said this is outdated. we decimated the leadership of al qaeda, and yet there are new groups rising up. we need a different authorization. he said i'm ready to work with congress to do this. then he said it fwen in the middle of last year. said again we really need to work on this, and then said it again when he announced the air strikes on iraq and syria. congress says they are waiting for the president so send over language on this. the president says he is ways for congress to propose something on it. both sides see it has a trap. the administration believes if they propose something i, it will be used by republicans who like to attack whatever the president proposes. to attack the policy in some way. those in congress who want a new resolution are divided over what they want it to say. there was a small debate in the senate foreign relations committee in december.
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>> that's rights. >> senator tim cane, senator menendez from new jersey. there are people who tried to push a resolution and they wrote up a couple of them and they had a debate and they got john kerry to come and testify. he did not particularly like the resolution they were proposing. it prohibits putting any booting on the ground in syria or iraq. john kerry said don't tie our hands. it said they passed a resolution and it said that it would expire after three years. the administration is not too happy about that. it passed with all democratic votes and no republican votes. the reason the republicans said they didn't vote for it is because with one exception, they
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thought it was too narrowing. the one exception was senator rand paul who said he thought it was too broad. he wanted the president to have less power because he said just as the administration used the al qaeda resolution, that by saying the president can fight isis, whereever he finds it, that will allow the president to go into all different kinds of places that we can't even foresee right now. i think what happened today is it came up and both sides said yes, we really want to get this done. but nobody wants to be the first one to propose any wording that could be debated. >> you're so experienced and well sourced. if you had to take a guess as to whether or not the congress is going to vote on that, and when it would happen, when would you guess would happen given those
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constraints? >> i think it probably will happen. the administration while it said it wants to get rid of the resolutions it has, it says they are enough to give it the power to do what it is doing now. so it really, the president has been a little schizophrenic about this, he said i don't need a new authorization, but it would be nice. and so i think eventually they will come up with one. i think the bill that the senate voted, the white house will quietly make it clear what parts of it it doesn't like. it is probably the republicans that will give him the most important on it because they're the ones that want to expand the authorities for this, and of course they're the majority now. >> karen deyoung, it's an honor to have you here, thank you for being here. i have to say that people talk sometimes, particularly on the
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lef, i have been guilt of this myself about washington be e.g. a post policy place, washington being a place where essentially there is pure politics free from friction and having any consequence in the world. one place you can see that more clear than anything in the world is the amount of words, the contrast between the number of words and the number of political allegations made around issues like terrorism, and the absolute lack of any substantive interest in passing any policy, or debating any policy, that has any meaningful effect in what we do about it. it's like washington has nothing to do with the world at large in terms of how america acts on this issue that they suppose think care so much about. if it happens in the next six months i will be surprised. we'll be right back.
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there is strange breaking news to report tonight about the top republican in congress, how's speaker john boehner and a threat that was allegedly made against his life. it is a strange story and it's one that is still developing. there is a man in custody tonight, a grand jury indictment in this case, and the story starts right here. this is the weatherington
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country club that john boehner is a member of back home in ohio. several days ago, federal prosecutors indict a former bartender for threatening to kill john boehner. this past october, he called 911, he gave the 911 dispatcher his first name, mike, and he told the dispatcher to tell his father that he was sorry. then he hung up. police, unsurprisingly checked it out. he said that he had just been fired from his job at the country club and that he was going to kill house speaker john boehner because mr. boehner he said was mean to him at the country club and was responsible for the man being fired. the context of those remarks consider that he told police john boehner is the devil. and that john boehner is responsible for ebola. police say he also told them that he, himself, is jesus christ. the suspect in this case was hospitalized for a psychotic episode in the past. that is apparently not enough to keep him from obtaining at least two guns. the man told police after that 911 gun that he was in possession of a loaded beretta handgun. and a bunch of different kinds of ammunition. three boxes of different types of ammunition, a bunch of loose rounds of ammunition and a speed loader. they later visited the man's
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mother in kentucky, she said she took her son's assault riffle out of his house while he was away because she was worried about his state of mind. thank god for his mom, if not the law. when they did find the handgun that the man had in his house, the one he said he would use to kill john boehner, it was stored alongside a notebook containing the words john boehner, ebola, and lists of members of the country club after the man told police that, after the man called 911, he told them he called police in the first place because he believed that evil people were going to come chop him up, he was trying to expose the devil. he volunteered to be taken to a local hospital for psychiatric hospital for evaluation. it is a strange case. it seems like he is a guy who is not stable.
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the man did have long standing and repeated access to john boehner at that country club where he worked and where john boehner was a member. the man complained in his initial interaction with police that because he had just been fired from the country club, he quote, did not have time to put something in john boehner's drink. they interviewed him in october about the case. he stated he did know the bartender from the club, but he didn't recall any negative situations. he thanked investigators for their efforts in the case, but again, the very strange breaking news tonight from the fbi, is that a man in ohio has been arrested for threatening to kill
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house speaker john boehner. that indictment was filed tonight. we'll bring you more on the story if and when we learn more. the man in question is in custody right now. we'll be right back. you can find a new frontier. there's nothing stopping you and a lot helping you. technology that's with you always. this is our promise.
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a quick but important update today on the case against former governor bob mcdonald. he was convicted on multiple counts of public corruption while in office. an important part of the sentencing faze in that case is that governor mcdonald ask the court to allow him to stay out of prison, on bail, while he appealed his conviction. today the federal judge in his case said no, request denied, which means without a reverse, he will be serving his time very, very soon. on december 13th, after counts and recounts, al gore conceded his race against
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florida, but the supreme court inserted itself into the case and everyone wanted to tell al gore how he could have waged a better campaign and how he lost it because of a fault of his own after the supreme court weighed in to basically pick not al gore to be president, al gore finished off his last few week'ses a bill clinton's vice president, then he kind of disappeared from public view for awhile. he went to europe for a couple months. kicking back, learning to relax, and famously he grew a beard. and that beard, the al gore beard basically in our modern
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fake political science was the ultimate confirmation that al gore was done with politics. we don't have beardy presidents. the al gore beard in all of hst glory was the ultimate symbol not only that he lost, but that he was done. he was clearly done with politics because he could not run for anything now, not with all of that stuff on his face. the dashed presidential aspirations beard has made a few appearances in american politics. there was also bill richardson who ran for the 2008 democratic nomination for president. after disappointing results, bill richardson too grew a beard. also, fred thompson, people expected him to run away with
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the nomination and he did too, but as soon as he dropped off, boom, beard. it's just not a very presidential look. then, just last week, 2012 vice presidential nominee, paul ryan, arrived in congress, and he told us all we needed to know with an adorable hipster length junior beard. when he sat out of the race, it was redundant. the beard was all of the announcement that anyone needed. but one multiply failed presidential candidate, who survived the beards, who has never grown a beard that we know
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of is mitt romney. it seemed like he was making it very clear after his last loss in 2012. he never did the beard thing. it seemed like he was not going to run he was asked by the "new york times" if he would consider running again after failing to get the nomination once in 2008, and failing in the general election of 2012, he responded to the new york times, and i quote, "oh no, no no no, no, no, no no no." if you're counting, that is no, 11 times, with no other words between the no no nos. it is not that strange of a decision for him to have made. candidates rarely run again. the last time someone that lost a general election and reason for president again was 1984, he didn't even come close to getting his parties nomination.
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the last time someone who lost a general election went on to win the presidency it was richard nixon in 1968. the only over time that has ever happened was glover cleveland in 1892. that is it. nixon and grover cleveland. mitt romney would be trying to be the third one in history if he ran again. it doesn't seem like he was going to run again. beyond all of that, mitt romney and his family were quite overt about the fact that they didn't want to run another campaign. again, not to be labor the point, but quoting again from the "new york times," no no no, no no no, no no, no. and here is his wife. >> i know that you feel that your husband is going to win.
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>> i do. >> if he does, because there is a chance he might not, is that the end of politics for you and your husband? >> absolutely, he will not run again, nor will i, or do anything like that. >> at the end of the documentary called mitt, that about was the campaign, one of the themes that runs with the romney family was their deep ambivalence about dad running for president, and the expressed determination that he should never do it again.
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in "mitt" when it was clear he lost the election. the romney could not have been more clear that they were done and they would never do this again. >> it's finished. >> i hope so. >> i don't -- what's -- i don't know the story, obviously you don't want to hook like a jerk, but he is in the race because he is passionate about what he believes in. >> there is tomorrow, and the next day, and -- >> for what? >> to go out and make the case. >> i mean -- >> he's not going to run for anything. >> to make a case for the country. >> how do i make a case? where? my time on the stage is over, guys. i'm happy for the time i had there, but my time is over. to do what? >> we're done. >> my time on the stage is over. i'm happy for the time i had there, but my time is over.
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turns out maybe not. it is now being reported by multiple sources that he has changed his mind. he is reportedly telling people in multiple states that he is going to run again. 2016, seriously. i would not have believed it, but apparently it is happening, joining us now is greg whitely, thank you for joining us, it's nice to have you here. >> thanks for having me. given what you shot, are you surprised by the news that he is really apparently going to run again? >> yeah. i have been knee deep finishing a movie, editing a new documentary, and i have not watched the news, and in the last few days i got texts and e-mails and i'm shocked. in watching kind of what he went through, i was really surprised they ran the second time. and to be fair, i am still not sold that he has decided to run
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the third time, i don't believe it. >> we saw, we saw the film, played a clip from the film when they were writing the concession speech, from your perspective, and all of the time that you spent, can you describe what seemed the hardest for him and his family? why they had such deep ambivalence about his running that second campaign in 2012? >> i don't think there should be any surprise there is ambivalence on anyone's part when trying to run for president. the gauntlent that we put people through is so intense and severe and it takes a toll on the family. i think having second thoughts, misgivings, or ambivalence would be natural. they would be crazy not to have
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it. if you're asking me to pick a particular moment that people would second guess it, i don't know -- when i imagine, and mitt was very gracious with me and allowing me to film him and his life. when you view his life outside of politics, it is a great life. he has a beautiful family, an amazing wife. he's got the means to really enjoy himself. so why he would choose to do this, i would imagine you wouldn't do it. unless there was something tugging you. and i think most people they talk to that didn't have the perspective that i had, they, when they -- most of them i think will attribute this or any past runs on personal ambition, and i know it sounds crazy, but i don't think he is wired that
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way. i don't think that's the reason why he does these things. >> greg whiteley. director of "mitt." i agree with you that there is a lot of good reasons to be skeptical, but the latest reporting is convincing and bewildering. >> thank you. have it is always smart to obey the one rule in politics about what you can't so no matter how tempting it is. there is one, it is important to abide by it, coming up. hey amanda sorry to bother you, but i gotta take a sick day. vo: moms don't take sick days, moms take dayquil. vo: the non drowsy coughing, aching, fever, sore throat, stuffy head power through
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on a map of train lines of washington dc, they're labelled by colors, six in all. the busiest is down the street from the national mall, it is the l.' enfant line. that is why dozens of metro riders did yesterday afternoon just before rush hour around 3:30 p.m. eastern. moments after the train pulled out of the station, the cars on the train jerked to a halt inside the tunnel and then this happened. >> is there a doctor in the house? shut the door? let me see the train's door number. after about 40 min ts fire and rescue teams finally reached the train and tunnel. they led passengers back out to the plaza, the station. i should tell you that one passenger who was stuck on the train yesterday died. she worked as a federal contractors. the exact cause of her death is still unknown. 84 more people were homespitalized after this incident. the national transportation
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safety board already said that the source of the smoke was got a fire, but rather some sort of electrical malfunction. it basically arced from the high high-voltage rail that powers the trains. the cause of that arcing is still being investigated.
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joining us now is a passenger on that d.c. metro train when it started to fill with smoke. she took some of the video we showed you earlier of the scene on the train. she's a public relations consultant in d.c. thank you very much for being with us. my producers tell me that you went to the doctor to get checked up after what you went through. how are you doing? >> well, i just got out of urgent care about a couple hours ago. i wasn't feeling too great this morning when i woke up. shortness of breath, pains in my chest, nausea, headache and feeling light-headed. i thought i definitely needed to get checked out. they did a bunch of tests, x-rays and, you know, made sure to give me a full workup.
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>> in terms of what it was like, the thing that seems so scary is how long it took for rescuers to get there. did you have any clear indication of what you should do or what had happened of how you would be getting out of there? >> absolutely not. credit to the train operator. i think he tried his best to keep us calm and just keep talking to us every five minutes. but you could tell that he didn't have a lot of information to share. we really didn't know if there was a fire, if there was not a fire, where the smoke was coming from, if we were going to be rescued, if the train was going to move us out of there, how we were going to escape. we were told to stay still and not try to open the doors.
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there was a bit of a debate whether or not that was the proper thing to do, because the smoke kept on coming in and coming in. and, you know, your survival instincts kick in and you wonder should i just try to break what didn't seem to be established protocol and just open the door and else cape or do i lay here and hope that someone comes or something happens to save us. as your mind is racing and you're wondering what to do and you're losing breath, you know, the smoke is just everywhere and it's pitch black and you see people passing out, you just don't know what to do and you don't know at that point if you're going to make it. >> with the footage that you shot and what we've heard, it's heartening the way the passengers tried to help each other and keep each other calm
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and try to give each other direction in this moment. the fact that you had to resort to that is really scary. thanks for helping us understand what you went through. i'm sorry you went through it and i hope everything works out okay for you. >> thank you. and prayers to the family of the woman who passed. >> absolutely. thanks for being with us. lots more still to come. stay with us. constipated? .yea dulcolax tablets can cause cramps but not phillips. it has magnesium and works more naturally than stimulant laxatives. for gentle cramp free relief of occasional constipation that works! mmm mmm live the regular life. out of 42 vehicles... based on 6 different criteria... why did a panel of 11 automotive experts... ... name the volkswagen golf motor trend's 2015 car of the year? we'll give you four good reasons the all-new volkswagen golf starting at $17,995.
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to compare the president to hitler. though it's hard to see what else he might have intended by comparing the president to hitler. he then continued on saying -- >> he now realizes that, as in before today, tuesday, that had >> good evening. john boehner is reconsidering this whole congressman use of twitter thing. >> executive order from the speaker coming up stat. well, in just a few hours, the new addition of "charlie hebdo" will hit news stands in paris. >> victims of last week's attacks are laid to rest.