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restrictions regarding trade and investment. that's ul for now. the ed show is coming up next. good evening, americans, and welcome to "the ed show" tonight live from new york. breaking news from belgium. two people are dead after a police count terrorism raid. another suspect was injured and detained. no police or civilians were harmeded. local media reported gunshots and several explosions were hurt on the residential street. it was intendeded to check on suspected radicals specifically people believed to have returned to the country after taking part in the syrian civil war. belgian authorities held a press conference today and told reporters why police were forced to take action. >> during the investigation. we found that this group was about to commit tryst attacks in belgium. certain suspects immediately
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opened fire with automatic weapons. they opened fire during several minutes before being neutralized the invest is still going on. we cannot give any further information. >> belgium has faced a significant uptick in riz call islamic activity. that's the highest number per capita among european countries. earlier this week we learned a belgium arms dealer was responsible for supplying most of the weapons used by the gunman who perpetrated the attacks in paris last week. the dealer turned himself into authorities on tuesday. today's events only heightened concerns about security in europe. for more on all of this unfolding, we turn to nbc news' katy tur. what's the latest? >> the emergency press
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conference a few hours ago con if i wered two were dead and one person was injured in a terrorist raid on an apartment. police say when they initially approached the building they were immediately fired upon. they were using what they say war grade weapons, machine guns and the like. they were allegedly surveilling the the group for about a week since they returned from syria and decided to move in at this point because they felt like they were as you've said, an imminent threat. witnesses say they heard one big loud explosion followed by rapid gunfire. machine guns sounding much like fireworks would sound, followed by more explosions. they were told to run, take cover. and then to stay inside their homes. in the aftermath of it all, what you're seeing right here the apartment looked like it was on fire. now police didn't talk about any explosions in that emergency press conference. but they did talk about the machine gunfire.
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it's unclear if these people inside the building, these suspects detonated the explosion themselves, or if police fired something in there that detonated before the machine gunfire broke out. that is unclear as of now. they'll have another news conference tomorrow morning at 5:00 a.m. eastern time. hopefully we'll get more detail as to who the suspects were whether or not they were male or female and how many people are under arrest. we are hearing there are more imminent arrests being made as we speak. they didn't want to go into much detail about it. they didn't want to give operations away. but there were ten raids done in ten different houses. very much on high alert there, as you were talking about. they have the highest per capita number of foreign fighters going to syria and iraq. hundreds of people out there
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right now. they were on high alert before this. and after the paris attacks, many countries are starting to surveil the people coming back from syria to make sure they are not going to plan a similar style attack. they're saying they believe they were able to stop a charlie hebdo style attack in belgium. it's unclear at the moment if there's any connection between these suspects and the the attackers in paris. they're looking into that and investigating if there was contact between any of these people in the months or days weeks leading up to the paris attacks now according to the paris newspaper. their sources are saying between six and ten young people in this town fought in syria in the past few months. that's part of the reason there's a high level of tension in the area. they want to really make sure
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they are doing what they can to stop anything from happening in the the future. but it's just a flute situation at the moment. they are going to be conducting more arrests in the overnight hours. potentially through tomorrow. and hopefully we'll get more detail at to exactly what is going on. >> katy tur reporting from london tonightn't tonight. joining me now is msnbc contributor and editor at large for the the atlantic. what do you make of this? >> you know there's been some criticism of the french government for not having stepped in as the belgian authorities had done. but i think people are forgetting the french government disclosed they had filed another number of terrorist atems. they disclosed they were intervening previous to the "charlie hebdo" attacks. we had u.s. intelligence shortly
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after the hebdo attacks that was disclosed that said they saw chatter ak vating some cells out there. o this is the first it ration where what we maid have heard in the u.s. intelligence disclosure. there may be other out there. >> steve you get the feeling they've infiltrated almost everywhere. this is the new genera of terrorism that we'll be dealing with for a long time to come. what's your sense of that? >> well i think that you definitely see an evolution in at least the aspiration of what the groups do. i think many of your commentators today have been correctly right to show people, al qaeda and the arabian peninsula is at odds with isis. but to see these various groups out there competing with one another to some degree they are at odds with each other, but each are trying to deploy and grab the international
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spotlight. with complex terror ser nay owes. this is not lone wolf stuff. these are well planned financed complex, multiperson attacks on premier targets. and i think that's something that is just a new big step in the terror game that we need to sort of see, are our stms resilient enough to take the shocks? are the intelligence networks good enough to disrupt these. today the story is a rather good story. this could have been another national, international nightmare that we disrupted. >> this is the best security we can have right here. what makes belgium different? why are there so many i sis recruits coming out of this country? >> you know, belgium is a wonderful place. it's a great place. but i think understood famtly what is happening in each of
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these societies is the assimilation machinery that exists across europe. you can look in jerm any. you can look in belgium or france. you can look at the u.k. there are problems of assimilation across the board. and many of those not well assimilated or alienated. they don't have job prospects. they feel completely disconnected from the social trablgs in that society. and on the edge are those who choose violence or a different way to per sue their identities. so i think don't it's belgium per se. we may make up a lot of the per capita. but those numbers are significant. when you look at a country like australia that has 100 or so people to isis. australia is like us to some degree. we all need to look internally and ask ourselves what are we
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doing to pull the plug on that aspirational element. that think they they can affirm who they are by joining these thugs and people that are so horrible in the international community. and that's something we all need to think about. i don't want to blame belgium. it's not that dissimilar from any of the major european countries. >> europe has much stricter gun laws than the united states does. yet all of these groups seem to have been so terribly well armed, well equipped to do about any kind of assault they want to do. with that, has the isis use of online propaganda made recruiting easier? has there been an uptick in their activity in that regard? >> there's no doubt that has been the case. there's no doubt. i don't quite get it. the friends and family of isis supporters is a robust group. when the journalist james foley was beheaded and they had that awful picture isis was promoting
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globally around the world, i put a very nice picture of james foley out and said this is the picture he should be remembered by that media should use. it was retweeted tens of thousands of times. you had social media mavens out harassing not only me but people retweeting. where do they get that capacity? when you look at their ability to surf on the networks we're all using to, you know, to talk to our children. to engage with each other and share ideas, there are bad guys in the world surf fing the same networks. >> steve, great to have you with us tonight. >> thank you so much ed. >> you bet. coming up a new era of u.s.-cuba relations start this week. we'll tell you what it means for you and what your possibilities are. and later, a hollywood hit
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it's the dawn of a new day between the u.s. and cuba. storting tomorrow. a huge opening on trade, credit and travel. >> opens the door for individuals to hop on a plane for vacation or business. >> cuba is literally around the corner. >> cuban cigars will be permitted into the united
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states. >> cuban cigars and many other components. >> rely on the illusion that more commerce and access to money and goods will translate to political freedom. >> help the cuban people help themselves as they move into the country. >> this country is not going to lift the embargo. >> it's interesting. senator marco rubio did an interview saying they need to bring the party to the 21st century. maybe they should try to get on board with this. the white house announced a new set of regulations that will ease decades old restrictions on cuba. it's the first major step in president obama's plan to. these new regulations take effect tomorrow. first, americans will be allowed to travel to cuba for any of a
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dozen reasons without a license from the government. they include x education, journalism artistic performances and, quote, support for the cuban people. i think that could be interpreted in a lot of different ways. many wonder what impact this will have on cuban baseball players coming to play in america. it's not immediately clear with all this means for major league baseball. only congress with lift the embargo and tourism travel bands. but today's move really makes it ease yr for anyone to travel to cuban. next airlines will be allowed to provide service to cuba without a license. this is a huge move. it's going to take time for agencies like the department of homeland security to sign off. here's a big one. americans are allowed to bring back $400 in sieve nears. this includes $100 worth of tobacco and alcohol. officials said it will be strictly enforced.
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$100 is not enough to buy a box of cuban cigars but a handful is a good start, as i see it. travelers can use credit cards in cuba and banking strans actions will be included for tral and can be done on credit. americans can send up to $2,000 every three months in cuba instead of the $500 allowed currently. u.s. banks will be allowed to do business with cuban banks. and this is a big deal. last year the united states government authorized three billion dollars worth of agriculture exports to the country. only 300 million were exported because of the cash advance rule. now this is huge for the u.s. grain growers in the country country and potentially billions for u.s. farmers.
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earlier today the commerce secretary said these changes pro1r50id opportunity for the private sector. >> american businesses are, you know very creative. and we're making sure they're aware of all the changes so they can take advantage of them. the goal the president set out is more engagement. that's the way the president and the administration believes we can affect change with cuba. and it's you know really exciting for us to play a significant role. >> the obama administration is making progress on restoring diplomatic relations. next week roberta will discuss a broad range of moves. the republican outrage today, well, it went pretty quick. here comes florida senator marco rubio releasing a statement saying this is a windfall for
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the castro regime that will be used against cubans swell activities against u.s. national interest in latin american and beyond. republicans may be changing their tune when the private sector starts raking in the cash. this deal is good for american business. it's good for their economy, our economy, it's good for the cuban people and it's great for cigar smokers. don't forget the cuban rum. it's a great start. this is a 21st century move. it's been too long. get your cell phones out. i want to know what you think. tonight's question would you like to travel to cuba? text "a" for yes or "b" for no. you can go to our blog and leave a comment there. we'll bring you results later on.on also with us former florida state representative.
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great to have you both with us tonight b. rick, you first. tomorrow comes early. what kind of effect will this have on the cuban people? >> we want to see change from cuba. change comes from within. we're fot helping by trying to isolate ourselves from them. this policy tries to distance ins and expand the flow from the united states to the cuban people so they can be in a better position to dmad greater changes from the government. >> rick, your response to rubio? he says these resources will be useded to repres the people.
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>> listen, it's a totalitarian system. eventually it will end up with the cuban government. what is important here is how does that money touch the every day? when we're expanding the flow of remittances and funds so they can start their own private small enterprises, we're empowering those people. and now they have a stronger private sector and stronger civil society with which to contend. >> anna they list 12 reasons you can travel to cuba. one is support for the cuban people. is the travel ban basically lifted? >> i think it's basically lifted. and this really hits home with me. my parents are cuban. my family lost everything in cuba when the castro regime came
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to take over. we always dreamed of going back to a free cuba. and this may just happen. i would like to debate marco rubio on any of these issues. my family lost everything there. i believe he was in exile. his family did not lose everything. when i hear that they are excited about the changes and they actually think they may make a difference, and the fak they will be able to have internet and communicate, that's huge. and the fact that the castro regime is going to allow this to happen, that is huge. we are trying to empower the people. of course, the change is going to be slow. it has been for more than 50 years. change is slow. but there is change occurring.
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and i'm excited about this. i'm looking forward to visiting a free cuba. >> what are the politics surrounding this? >> well there's a big difference between the older hard line cubans and the younger cuban-americans. the younger cuban-americans want to see change. one of them came up to me and said we can't say this, but i want this embargo to go away. they believe it has not worked. it is our heritage. it is in my blood. i would like to one day be able to visit a free island. so would they the only way to do that is from within. empower the people from within. >> rick, there are a multitude of opportunities in the agriculture community, we're
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going to flood them with a lot of products. how is this going to work out? tourism is big in cuba. i saw it myself in 2003. i went on an agricultural mission. but they're beautiful people. beautiful beaches. they put a ot of money into tourism. and they need to feed the tourists that come down there. and so when these start coming in, do you think the republican criticism is going to fall by the wayside? >> well already, let's be clear on where the opposition is coming from. it's coming from a few individuals in south florida. it's coming from folks looking at the 2016 election.
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but there is a lot of support within the party for these changes. just last week we had an event announcing they were going to be advocating for lifting the em bar embargo to make it easier to sell on credit. you still can't on credit. it's going to be cash to transfer. that was supported by many republican lawmakers, including senator jerry moran. and also let's not forget the u.s. chamber of commerce for years has been supportive of lifting the em bar go and their own leader mr. tom don hew was in cuba last year giving the speech at the university of havana. talking about how greater relations between the countries is better. >> okay, great to have you with
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this message because washington is full of big spenders let's make them squeal. >> let's turn to bob trump this morning. what do you make of this choice? we've seen some interesting people in the the past remember. bob mcdonnell who is now going behind bars was the first to respond to president obama in 2009. that was the rp choice. what do you think of this one. >> it's always perilous to take one of these new people and put them in the role. bobby jindal came across as very weird. marco rubio took his famous drink of water and looked less presidential. they're not going to produce the results they want. i think they picked her because she's a woman, she has extreme anti-woman positions. so it won't help with the genter gap. she's a koch brothers avatar. she's talked about privatizing
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social security. she's o posted the minimum wage. so all of this hurts republicans in 2016 if she talks about it. i think they won't letter huk about it. i think it will be anti obama, and this will be some normal republican things in there. the only thick she could do to make it very interesting, she became famous during the campaign for cast racing pigs as a young lady. maybe she could do it on camera it would at least be weirdly interesting. >> here's mitch mcconnell. he had high praise for ernst today. >> the announcement i want to make is senator joni ernst will be delivering the response to the state of the union for our side this year. she is a perfect choice. americans voted for change and senator ernst will explain what the new congress plans to do. >> not long ago she tweeted out
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she opposed almost everything obama stands for. i think there's a strong strategy here. id will be big in 2016 to put her on a national platform. to give her credibility at home. it might help the campaign trail of any republican in the state. what do you make of it? >> well, the most important thing about iowa in 2016 will be the rk caucus process there. and you're seeing republicans who understand how heavily weighted that is to the party's base and the extreme right cater to it. she perfectly represents that base. and so i don't think it really helps them in the general election in iowa. i think it fits with the idea that these folks want to kat tore the extreme right in iowa which dominates that republican party. if it didn't dominate the republican party she wouldn't be there, she wouldn't be in the senate. they would have had a different nominee. >> if her response to the state of the union is like her
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commercials, it's going to be entertaining. that will be the pregame show, huh, bob? >> it certainly would. i don't see her castrating. i don't know if she'll have a shot from the farm yard. maybe shoel do it from iowa. who knows. bob, good to have you with us. stick around. rapid response panel is next. we'll be right back. >> i'm hampton pearson with your cnbc market wrap. stocks are lower for a fifth straight day. the s&p sheds 18. the nasdaq is off by 68 points. bank earnings weighing on the markets today. profits from bank of america dropped 14% in the most recent quarter. citigroup shares went down nearly 4%. and target is giving up on canada. closing all the stores north of the border after losing money for two years. 17,000 jobs will be lost.
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welcome back to the ed show. start filling out your oscar brackets. the academy award nominations are out. "selma" is a heavy hitting contender for best picture. the movie follows the 1965 voting rights marches led by dr. martin luther king. selma received praise for skillful directing but commandeded attention for timeliness. trailers came out just marches for justice brewed across the country. the civil rights struggle depicteded in the film isn't cinema, but it is truly reality. martin luther king would have been 86 years old today. house republicans will commemorate the commemoration by
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leaving them voiceless. dr. king fought tirelessly. in 2013 the supreme court allowed republicans to gut it. now the house republicans say the lasting disenfranchisement isn't worth fixing. congressman told reporters he doesn't see strengthening the voting rights act as necessary. he claims he will continue listen to the concerns and look for the instances of diskrim fact. a bipartisan group of lawmakers tried to strengthen them last january. he declined to hold a hearing. and now not listed at all. and he probably won't in the future. they are set in their ways. don't expect it to be addressed. joining me tonight on the rapid response panel. former ohio state senator nina turner with us. and it's great to have you both with us tonight.
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nina, you first. tell us about the voting obstruction you saw firsthand in ohio that needs to be addressed. having access to the ballot box is important. to have the congressman say those words about the vra not being necessary to me denies all the blood, sweat and tears people answered with their lives and bodies to vote. today dr. king would be outraged. he would be out marching in the streets as well to say voting is really the greatest equalizer that we have. >> james, what impact do you think the film selma is having on this discussion in washington, if any? >> probably not. but it's quite ironic all the folk who came out to defend lbj with respect to his depiction are silent when the news breaks
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that his greatest legislative achievement will not be sustained. i know you shouldn't be hopeful for american politics. but i held out hope that the gutting of section five, really they changed the coverage of peace for section four. i was holding out hope we would see a new formula to get other states like ohio and not just concentrated in the south in terms of the preclearance process. unfortunately the republicans have other ideas. >> nina if there were hearings in washington, would lawmakers get an earful. >> we have to get it more so. we don't need the sun to shine. we don't need water to drink. we don't need air to breathe. just as we need all of those
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things, they are to foundation to live. so was the vra the foundation to making sure with e get access to people who need the access. what it's doing in terms of two-year colleges or having supreme court justices appointed that really care about making sure people are treated equally in that country. all of that comes at the hands of public policy. public policy comes a the hands of elected officials. yes, i believe they would get an earful, ed. but selma is important for all folks to see so they can be reminded eded that people gave for the right to vote their bodies and their lives. no one should have a cavalier access when it comes to the ballot bok. every election cycle we need to play selma. >> republican congressman wanted to restore the voting rights act last year. here it is.
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>> my job is to fix the voting rights act. to take it out and use that monkey wrench to be able to fix it so that it is alive, well, constitutional and impervious to another challenge that will be filed by the usual suspects. >> so there are some on the other side that understand the severity of this and the impact that it's going to have. if it's reintroduced how do we know boehner will give it any airing whatsoever? james? >> we have to hope that he's not going to play political footballs. essentially, preclearance allows the federal government to make an intervention in a timely manner. everything becomes reactionary. if you remember one of the opening scenes from selma, oprah
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winfrey play iing annie cooper going into vote. and they ask her ridiculous questions. we can see these going out. and the reality is that without preclearance, we can't preempt the things. we're in a reactionary stance with response to december en disenfranchisement of the american citizens. >> and congressman steve scalise who spoke at a conference and wouldn't stand behind the voting restoring ak. what about that? >> it's unfathomable that we have people elected to office that think it's okay in the 21st century to be able to think and treat people in that manner. we need to be very careful about the types of people we elect to office. and he is but one of many who have this cavalier attitude
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about equal rights and justice in the country. we need to awaken the sleeping giants, ed. people can't be on the sidelines in a democracy. you have to get in there. the way we all get in there is by making sure we exercise our right to vote. it is embarrassing to this nation to have people elected to office who really don't care about the folks they are elected to serve. and all of us whether republican or democrat should care that people come out to vote. to have 36% eligible voters come out to vote in 2014 it makes my skin crawl. >> nina turner and james peterson. great to have you all with us on the ed show. coming up, prescription for progress. we'll tell you about a big move towards workers rights to take sick leaves long overdue. we're right back. i've been called a control freak... i like to think of myself as more of a control... enthusiast. mmm, a perfect 177-degrees. and that's why this road warrior rents from national. i can bypass the counter and go straight
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time now for trenders.
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this is where you can join the ed team and find us on facebook, twitter, and ed.msnbc.com. you can get my podcast 24/7 for free, find it on itunes -- and raw story.com, and roan of fire.com. we've decided we're reporting, here are today's top trenders voted on by you. the number three trender -- new heights. >> at the summit a celebration like never before because this hasn't happened before. >> after 19 grueling days they became the first to free climb the dawn wall stuff el capitan. >> fearless climbers get high praise for their epic feat. >> inching up 3,000 feet of
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smooth granite. >> some of the most precarious climbing eve ever done. >> he's worked so hard for this. >> two friends climbing into history, proving the impossible may not be. the number two trender, helping hand. >> a florida police officer is alive today thanks to a teen who was under arrest. surveillance video shows jamal rutledge while being processed. >> he collapsed why booking a 17-year-old boy. >> a handcuffed teen saves his arrests officer's life. >> he 'lettered three other officers. he got up and began kicking the security fence. the teen and the officers will be honored by the department later this month. in today's top trender, order up. >> president obama proposing new legislation that would require companies to give workers paid sick leave. >> this would let workers earn up to seven sick pay days a year. >> president obama pushes to paid leave for federal workers.
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this is an issue that spans geography, spans demographics. >> the white house says some 43 million workers in the united states don't have any paid sick leave at all. obama plans to ask congress to spend more than $2 billion to help them develop paid family leave programs. >> how can we support working families so that they have the tools to succeed in this new economy? >> joining me tonight, conman jim mcdermott of washington. congress mast good you have to you with us. the big question on this now, is will republicans support this proposal this time around? are they going to be anti-worker? >> well you know they have talked about their family values and i think if they really take those seriously, you have to look at the real american family that's working today, where most of the time a woman is working. so there's no one to stay at home and take care of a kid who's sick without losing a day of work or if you are sick
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you're going to lose a day of work, because you have to stay home. there's sometimes you shouldn't be at work you ought to be home, because you're going to infect other people. so everybody wins with this policy. i think the republicans may see the good sense in it. >> i have a feeling that they're going to say that this is government getting involved in the private sector there's no need for it and of course the private sector should be able to determine what the heck is going on and of course federal employees shouldn't have it anyway. it's not a new idea. your colleague rosa delora proposed a similar measure back in 2005. why hasn't it picked up steam? why does it take the president to do this? >> i think it always runs into the resistance of people who say it's the cost of business and it's just something that we could afford and we'll go out of business if we -- but if the people are sick -- for instance if you're running a restaurant and you've got somebody working there who's sick and making the customers when they come in pick up a cold or flu or whatever
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that's not good for business. so there's a cost in not having this that i really think that the republicans have to look carefully at that argument that somehow it could be done without ruining the economy of the united states of america. they have it in every other industrialized country in the world. it makes no sense. >> that's the point i was going to bring out, is that the united states is the only -- the only industrialized nation in the world that does not guarantee workers this benefit. now, dao vu it as a benefit? or it a shall view this? >> i think it's in the interest of taking care of children and families, it makes great sense and economically good for the economy. it's not some benefit, not like six days of paid vacation.
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when people have to stay home because their mother or father who is living with them is sick and they need to take care of them, or they have to take care of a kid who goes to school and has something and has to come home. the parent is in a terrible position, and i really think that society is much better off if we let people take care of their families as well as be workers in the environment. >> all right. congressman, you may not know this but our ed team does follow you on twitter. we did come across this. since we didn't have a two-minute drill arier tonight, lo and behold this is what you tweeted out over the weekend. you're a seahawks fan, good for you. so congressman, we'll use you as the two-minute drill tonight. why is your team going to win and beat i guess i can say my packers now? >> well listen ed. i didn't know you were a packer fan, or i would have invited you to come and stand with me among
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those 69,000 people tomorrow -- or this weekend in the game. it will be a great game. >> it is going to be a great game and it's going to be a real challenge for the packers, because the fans around you, they don't stop screaming there. my mean it's deafening in that stadium, from what i understand. >> it is. i wear earplugs in fact i had two sets in. it takes you to get back to normally hearing. the 12th man is a real factor because they raise the noise, particularly on defense when the quarterback for the packers, rodgers, will be trying to call an audible or trying to change an idea and you -- no one can hear. it really is a big problem. >> all right. let me see the picture, fellas one more time. i was thinking about this when i saw this picture. you put on a seahawks coaching shirt, you could pass for possibly the defensive coordinator, you know. you would fit right in there
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[ laughter ] >> congressman, good luck. appreciate your time tonight. jim mcdermott thanks. >> see you next week ed. reverent al sharpton begins right now. \s. >> good evening, ed. we start with breaking news in the fight against terror on two separate continents. in belgium police killed two terror suspects in a raid to stop what authorities say was an imminent attack on police buildings. in ohio investigators analyzing laptops and cell phones seized from the 20-year-old man accused of plotting to blow up the u.s. capitol. but we tart tonight in belgium. that's where we're seeing another terror plot a new one, foiled. belgian police launched about a dozen raids aimed at terrorists who had come back from fighting in syria.