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that's all for now. "the ed show" is coming up next. good evening americans, and welcome to "the ed show" live from new york. let's get to work. >> if you're going to run for president -- >> i say something to defend someone. >> is he in or is he out? >> i never plan on becoming a politician. >> we are visibly giving every belief and every value for the sake of political careers. >> it's very difficult to speak to a large group of people these days and not offend someone. >> for the sake of political correctness. >> construed as nasty or offensive. >> we have to change that. >> not my intention to offend anyone. >> somebody said to me in the
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elevator, you've got to run. >> good to have you with us tonight, folks. thanks for watching. we start tonight with the republican national committee's winter getaway. the republican meeting is focused on one thing. how in the heck are we going to win the white house? speakers including dr. ben carson scott walker and mitt romney. scott walker is worried about possible democratic candidate hillary clinton. walker went after clinton in a big way last night. >> i think the other big loser on november 4th wasn't just washington and the president. it was hillary rodham clinton. the reason hillary clinton was the big loser is she embodies washington. she lives in washington. she worked in washington for this president and his administration. she worked in washington when she was part of the united states senate. she lived in washington when she
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was part of the white house. she embodies it. >> she's responsible for all of that, scott. it's clear the rnc is already terrified of hillary clinton. they should be. americans were not impressed with the 2012 gop presidential field. and 2016 isn't looking any better. in fact the 2016 field could be even worse for republicans. just listen to presidential hopeful dr. ben carson at the rnc retreat on thursday. >> a bunch of rag tag militia men defeated the most powerful and professional military force on the planet. why? because they believed in what they were doing. they were willing to die for what they believed in. the british were not. fast forward to today.
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what do we have? we've got isis. they got the wrong philosophy, but they're willing to die for what they believe while we are visibly giving away every belief and every value for the sake of political correctness. we have to change that. >> what an absolute slam at the united states military and everybody who works to protect this country. you heard it right. ben carson compared american militia men to isis. i think what he was saying basically was that you have to believe in what you stand for and we have to believe in the ideals of america. i didn't think anything odd of it. i think he was making a point. i think his point was to stand
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up for the things that you believe in. no matter how the rnc tries to spin it they know ben carson's isis moments are bad for business. this is a perfect example of why the rnc is probably going to regulate their debates this time around. nine debates have been sanctioned and there are three pending. the first debate is going to be held on fox from the state of ohio. debates will finish up in february or march. the 2012 cycle had 20 debates, so the number clearly being cut. the rnc is trying to do early damage control. with guys like carson i can imagine that. the rnc is seeking the devise a set of rules that will bring more order to the process, including more conservative outlets and sponsors and
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establish sanctions for candidates who violate the rules. rnc chair called the 2012 debates a, quote, embarrassment and ridiculous for the party. it was like a dog and pony show. i think debates are important. but just because you are a good debater, doesn't mean you are going to be a good president. it is just too much of an importance on debating. well i think he got the dog and pony show part of it right. >> i don't think i've ever hired an illegal in my life. i'm looking forward to finding your facts on that because that just doesn't -- rick i'm speaking. >> let's be candid. the only reason you didn't become a career politician is because you lost to ted kennedy in 1994. >> wait a second. you get 30 seconds. this is the way the rules work here. i get 60 seconds and you get 30 seconds to respond, right?
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>> it is three agencies that are gone. commerce, education, what's the third one there? let's see. i would do away with education, commerce, and let's see. i can't -- the third one i can't -- sorry. oops. >> would you please wait? are you just going to keep talking? >> let's go through the lineup with ben carson, chris christie mitt romney and rick perry. let's get back to this ben carson comment. we all know the republican party is so sensitive and they except apologies every other week. for ben carson to compare american patriots to isis should
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disqualify him at every level. isis fighters are willing to die. is dr. carson forgetting how many american patriots we have lost in this age? they are every bit as patriotic as the ones who started this country. we all know if it was a democrat or liberal commenter who said this there would be an onslaught of pressure against them. just this week a republican congressman compared the president of the united states to hitler. now we have another republican candidate compares patriots to terrorists. the head of the rnc says he has no problem with ben carson. have a hell of a winter meeting boys. tonight's question are you sad the rnc is cutting the number of
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gop debates for 2016? we'll bring you the results of the poll later on in the show. for me let me bring in angela ride democratic strategist also the editor at large for the indian country, and someone from "the daily beast." i looked at this videotape because i wanted to consume it to make sure i actually understood what i was saying. there's no wiggle room here. what were your impressions when you saw it? >> it made no sense. it makes michelle bachman look better because this is so out there. bill maher got fired from "politically incorrect" saying that the 9/11 terrorists were courageous. this man wants to be president of the united states. on some level you have to wonder why is he saying this. it's not red meat for the base.
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this is ridiculous. this is wrong. you made a mistake. instead of trying to defend a comment that is absolutely indefensible. >> do these terrorists deserve to be complimented on any level for any of their actions? i mean he's finding a quality of good amongst the people who are killing innocent on this globe. >> they don't deserve to be recognized in a speech which is suppose to be the gop -- would argue they are more patriotic. that was far from patriotic. the folks who are currently serving the country and have lost their lives, there are people all over this country who have grieving their loved ones because they went out to fight terrorism on behalf of this country. so the fact that he would even bring it up to say, at least they're willing to die for
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something. there are a lot of people willing to die for things that shouldn't be recognized. some of them have mental issues. some of them are just really sick. we shouldn't at all ever recognize them for being bold enough to die for something. that is not something worth complimenting. >> i want your opinion on the rnc's head failure to call it on the carpet and condemn it. >> again, we go back to this thing where the gop had this autopsy report where they were going to evaluate everything they did wrong in reaching out to special constituencies whether they were young people, women, gay folks, or people of color. the problem is not just ever in and of itself the message. the problem is they really believe some of these things that come out of their mouths. it doesn't matter how you frame it, shape it or remessage it. it is just wrong.
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if you really need to say what are we really putting out there and what do we believe and how can we find common ground. commending isis is not the starting point. >> i think your comments if it had been a democratic candidate who said this it would be off with his head or her head as it were. i think it's important to note that he is not a trained politician. he is unequivocally a brilliant neurosurgeon. it could be this just isn't the game for me. it's important to note the larger gamesmenship is the republican party seems to have
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an interest in throwing out a sacrificial lamb who happens to be black. unfortunately, they tend to be picking bad candidates to do so. >> what do you think of them cutting debates and setting rules and having restrictions? >> it's making it more difficult for the average person and republicans to choose their candidate. don't we want to see how someone can stand under pressure and their understanding of the issues? that's important for a president. ben carson is failing that but he has made other ridiculous comments. he said gay people are like bestiality. it's one ridiculous comment after another. he's still doing pretty well in the polls. in the republican polls in december, he's still right in
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the middle of the pack. >> it is not like it was a quick off the cuff comment. this guy is strolling back and forth on the stage, taking his time, in slow speech to make sure he gets it right and doesn't make any mistake whatsoever. i think his demeanor also speaks volumes about his comments. >> it does. i think it goes back to the fact that he continues to make these types of comments and he do so unapologetically. i interviewed him on a radio show and talked to him about what the president was doing wrong and the usa is governing like nazi germany, these comments are outrageous. he does not have a gifted head when it comes to politics at least. >> the rnc chairman is afraid to condemn him and give
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basically -- he gave the guy an alibi. >> yeah. to me it is much more -- it implicated the rnc much more than it does this particular candidate. unfortunately or fortunately, it has shown a willingness to throw out fringe candidates, but their unwillingness to condemn those says they have lost a lot of creditability. >> do you think that the rnc is afraid of hillary clinton? >> of course they are afraid of hillary clinton. it's almost like a speech an isis leader would give to his troops trying to rally them. a little rag tag group toppled the british empire. it is indefensible. he has to get a spine about this. >> great to have all of you with us tonight. appreciate your time. thank you. remember to answer tonight's question there at the bottom of
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>> a city manager is making his pro-seahawks stance clear. >> boss that man, top dog, head cheese. >> a washington mayor bans cheese ahead of the green bay packer-seattle seahawks matchup. >> it was actually a joke. >> the possession of and/or consumption of cheese or cheese flavored products shall be banned. >> we may have a big shredder truck out bag. the number two trender, found in space. >> the eagle 2 is no longer lost. >> it was ejected from mars on the 19th of december 2003. >> astronomers discover a missing mars rover on the red planet. >> it is actually in some deployed condition. >> it seems we are not looking
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at the crash site. >> it wasn't a failure by any stretch of the imagination. and today's top trender, health care benefits. >> there is a shocking new statistic about what causes most personal bankruptcy. medical bills are the reason nearly 2/3 of the time. >> no one should go broke just because they get sick. >> a new survey shows obamacare is helping americans stay out of medical debt. >> the number of adults who got treatment but had problems paying their bills dropped from 75 million in 2012 to 64 million last year. >> there are three things that obamacare really wanted to do. increase access improve quality, decrease costs. >> health care is not a privilege for the fortunate few. it is a right. >> joining us tonight, wendell
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potter author of "obamacare what's in it for me." this gives solid, undeniable numbers. this shows consumer behavior, how they are responding to what has been put in front of them as far as legislation with the law, the affordable care act. your thoughts on how quickly this has taken effect. >> it's a remarkable change. i think that same study also showed that we had a drop of the uninsured rate of about 25% last year, just last year which is a huge, huge change. obviously the better news for a lot of individuals is they're not having as nearly much trouble in paying for medications or going to the doctors. many millions of americans have
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skipped out on going to the doctor or not picked up their medications at the drugstore because they couldn't afford it. >> the survey also showed a decline in adults delaying care because of costs. now, how is the health care law reducing costs for patients? >> they just don't have enough money to pay out of their own pockets for care they are required to pay. a lot of people delay care because they are uninsured. a lot of folks, if they had insurance in the past their deductibles have been so high, they are forgone the care they need. >> this is positive news. >> it is. >> in the traditional mainstream media, positive news is hard to
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get a few seconds. what else are we going to see down the road with obamacare? we all know the politics of it. the republicans hate it. they want to privatize everything. they don't want any kind of government involvement whatsoever, but these numbers are undeniable. what is the other big number that's going to jump out ats us? >> a steady decrease in the number of uninsured. we're going to see the republicans are going to be looking to try to help their friends in business. they're going to be over the coming weeks, looking to repeal the 2.3 tax on medical devices and also to cut back -- change the definition of a full-time employee, which would result in people losing their coverage if they do that. that's what we'll be seeing.
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we'll see an attempt to repeal the law that won't go through, but there will be some efforts to weaken it that could roll things back. i don't think the president would approve those. i think he'd veto them but we got to watch it. >> what about the progress as far as the republicans are concerned? do you think we would have seen more progress if republican governors had been more open about the medicaid expansion program? what would it look like today if every state had bought into this and set up an exchange? >> we would have many many more millions of people who have coverage. of course, every state does have an exchange. they're not all operating their own exchanges. people who are >> that really is the republicans on steroids. they really don't have a way to
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take down obamacare legislatively because it is so popular. the bottom line is they are depending on a conservative supreme court to unravel this. >> that's true. at the state level, you're going see more republican governors trying to expand medicaid because it makes sense. in my home state, the governor is trying to do that. more states are going to be doing it. >> always a pleasure. still to come boiling point. breaking news on the climate has dire consequences for the world's oceans and your kitchen table. story coming up. later in the two-minute drill, i'll call it for the playoffs. stay with us. we're right back. but to get from the old way to the new you'll need the right it infrastructure. from a partner who knows how
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welcome back to "the ed show." president obama says he will veto additional sanctions on
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iran. the president and prime minister david cameron stood united against tampering with ongoing nuclear talks with the country. >> we agree the international community needs to remain united as we seek a comprehensive diplomatic solution. additional sanctions on iran at this time would undermine that international unity and set back our chances of a diplomatic solution. >> further sanctions at this point won't actually help to bring the talks to a successful conclusion. >> i will veto a bill that comes to my desk and i will make this argument to the american people as to why i'm doing so. and i respectfully request them to hold off for a few months to see if we have the possibility of solving a big problem without resorting potentially to war. >> diplomatic negotiations with iran have been underway for nearly a year.
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a bipartisan senate bill would impose new rounds of increased sanctions. john kerry met with iranian officials today in paris. some democrats are pushing the president for more sanctions. we'll bring you the latest as the story develops. stick around. rapid response panel is next. i'm hampton pearson with your cnbc market wrap. stocks end their week long losing streak. the dow jumps 190 points. the s&p adds 26 and the nasdaq climbs 63. fuel prices slid. the latest read on inflation shows it is still running below the fed's 2% target and shares of goldman sachs ended lower.
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clearly, we've had changes in our climate. i'll let the scientists debate the sources and their opinion of that change. >> but they're not going to do anything about it. welcome back to "the ed show." we have breaking news for all the science deniers out there. the earth is warming and human, well, we have a lot to do with it. 2014 was earth's warmest year on record according to noa. 2014 averaged just above 58 degrees fahrenheit. the last time earth set a record for cold was back in 1911.
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noa said the hottest december -- december was the hottest month on record. six months last year set records for heat. the impact of these record temperatures could be devastating, particularly if you're like me and you love fish. new research published thursday concludes that humans are on the verge of causing unprecedented damage to the oceans and the animals living in them. as one of my next guests puts it we may be looking at a major extinction event. a lot of factors are affecting are ocean, carbon emissions are changing the chemistry of sea water, making it more acidic large-scale habitat loss humans are overharvesting certain
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species. fish farms are projected to be the most productive in the way we're going to consume fish in the next 20 years. i don't know about you, but that's not the world i want to live in. we need to pay attention to this. these numbers prove climate change is real. it's happening and we have to act now. and we're going to lose some ground the way these guys are thinking in washington. we have to act before it is too late. joining me tonight is reese halter and author of the book "shepherding the sea, the race to save our oceans" and a doctor at the university of california santa barbara, who was part of this most recent study. great to have you with us tonight, gentlemen. thank you so much. doctor you were one of the authors of this new research on ocean life. what is the most alarming piece of information out there as you can see it? >> you set us up really well
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here, ed. we have historically been impacting wildlife populations in the ocean just by hunting them. now we're looking at the marine industrial revolution. we're changing the way we use the oceans. we're now farming it at an industrial scale where it looks like they're going to be an explosion in marine mining. we're building power plants in the ocean. all these things on top of climate change are going to the make the future for wildlife in the seas a whole lot tougher. >> what's the impact? >> the biggest concern right now is three out of every four breaths of air come from our oceans oceans. we're missing 40% of the phyto
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phytoplankton in the sea. the equivalent of 122 empire state buildings crammed with life each year being pulled out of the oceans it is not only unsustainable. it's end game for everything. >> let's get it down to the local level. i love to eat sea bass. tuna is fantastic. i'm hearing that sea bass could be extinct. the blue fin tuna is having is really tough time as compared to the last few years. what about that? >> there are things we can do right at the local level to avoid this future. there's a lot of bad news in the oceans now. our report keys in on that but there's also a lot of good news.
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extinction rates, at least yet in the year 2015 are quite low in the oceans. if we act now, we can chart a much more positive future for the ocean. simple things. if you're in your market buying seafood, pull out that app. look to see which of these wildlife are at risk and which are fine to eat. it is simple things in the way we deal and think about about our relationship with climate change. ride our bike to work. that can buy ocean animals just a little bit of time. it can help prevent this turning up of the temperature. that's something -- small actions add up really very quickly. >> what happens if your oceans experience a major extinction
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event? >> it's quite simple. if the oceans die, we die. and we at all costs -- when the g-20 meets and they don't address the plastics that are going in the ocean, 3.5 million pieces every day, they're wasting precious time. we all know for every problem there are three solutions. one of the situations though is we've got to address we've got a problem here and we're in deep now. >> what reverses this doctor? in your research in your report, and i read it you make it sound as if we're really in the hot zone right now. that if we don't do something by the calendar in the next few years, it could be irreversible. or did i misread that? >> no you got it ed.
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it's not too late. climate change there's an immense amount we can do but it is 100 years too late that we realize we need to step in with policy and our own personal actions. there is so much momentum behind this environmental issue. looking into the oceans now, because there haven't been mass extinctions extinctions, if they're not there upon us yet, we can actually do something. that's an opportunity we haven't had in some of these environmental disasters that have happened to us. on land for example, we don't have the same potential for recovery that we have in the oceans and so if we can realize the opportunities here and change the way we have conversations with our policymakers, change the way we do things as small consumers, the ocean will be a different place. >> thanks so much. very important topic, no doubt.
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welcome back to "the ed show." now, this the story for the folks who take a shower after work. lots of talk in the political world. mitt romney if he runs he says he wants to focus on poverty. very interesting. mr. romney i've got a story for you tonight. and it's the private sector. restaurant servers get some of the lowest wages in this country. the federal minimum wage for tipped employees is $2.13 an hour. they depend on tips just to get by. workers receiving tipped wanls are twice as likely to live in poverty as nontipped workers. forget time off, they can't
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afford it. one restaurant in pittsburgh pennsylvania, is flipping the model upside down. bar marco made a new year's resolution. they're cutting tips out of the conversation forget it don't worry about it. starting in april of 2015 this year employees will receive $35,000 a year paid salary employees will get ten days of paid vacation. that's going to be included in the year. also employees will get health care and work no more than 44 hours a week. now, that restaurant has been opened for three years, but they say it's time to change. bar marco is setting a new standard for restaurants across the country. joining me tonight from pittsburgh bar marco co-owner justin steel is with us tonight and also an employee andrew halfner. great to have you with us tonight. mr. steel, i'll start with you. i think it's pretty well documented that the margins in
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the restaurant degree can be pretty thin at times. are you doing the right thing? can you make this work? >> yeah it comes down to our employees. an efficient restaurant can run at about 10% net profit 40% making up overhead then you scrape by with 10%. we're going to take our employee costs and those are going to go up a little bit, but what we'll do to counteract that is put a lot of value into our kitchen and our food costs will go down slightly to make up the difference there. >> if you don't have good food and if you don't have good service, you're not going to have a good business. but now i think you've got special loyalty from employees. what kind of response have you gotten from this justin? >> it's really all about our employees. we couldn't do this if the support from them wasn't there. our revenues were 40% last year. we recognize that our employees
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are at the cornerstone of what we do. we need to treat them like professionals and not just employees. we have to raise the bar a little bit. >> what kind of reaction are you going to get from the community as time goes on? we're having a big discussion in this country about wages and the haves and the have nots the two americas and whatnot. it would seem to be the culture of pittsburgh where workers have been respected are going to realize what you're doing and there's going to be a certain amount of you know what i'm going over to bar marco here because of what this guy's doing? do you anticipate any of that? >> yeah we've seen it already. even though fwheert rolling out this policy until april this year, we've received anonymous phone calls and people across the country, people just calling in. they just want to chat and say they appreciate what we're doing for our employees. >> andrew how long have you been working at bar marco? >> i was their first employee so first day, i've been there
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just over three years. >> what's your response to this? how do you feel about it? >> i feel great. like anyone if you've been in a place for a while, you start to get used to however it is that day, then when there's going to be a change you look at what that might mean. the more i looked at it and i talk to the guys about things all the time. it means i can have a little bit more stability, i can know what to plan for, i don't have to ride the wave week to week on what the gratuity might be like. there's a longer investment that i can make and what they're making in me. >> what are your fellow employees saying about all this? it would seem to me that this might be a place where people want to work now? >> yeah yeah we've always had a pretty tight knit crew. it's a small place, so there's 10 to 15 of us making the rounds through the week. everyone is really excited to keep doing this together. it's in some ways a close
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reflection of how we already were working there. people aren't carving out separate sections and thinking about themself. it's already a place where you have teamwork. people see this as a place to keep working together and gradually keep growing this place and have options for what we're going to keep doing. >> everything will be incorporated into the menu price. because we is such a great kitchen staff now, the kitchen's really going to ramp up our offerings. so again one price, the menu price. if patrons feel so compelled that they need to leave something extra in addition to the bill all moneys left will be donated to our charity which is food revolution pittsburgh. >> super. andrew did you make 35 grand last year? >> it's hard to say. i think close, but there's always that like how much do i keep track of everything when a lot of it's just coming in based
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on tips in a certain week. it was close, i think. >> so it sounds like you're going to get somewhat of a raise, but most of all, you're going to get some time off, you're going to get health care and get some financial stability because you'll be able to budget a little bit better personally correct? >> that's right. all those things are new and great. >> what's the market going to do justin? you think you'll get a lot of ininquire es and this might be a model for restaurants? >> yes. it exists in parts of the country in pockets. a couple restaurants in new york and california, there's a restaurant in philadelphia that does it as well. but every restaurant kind of institutes the policy differently. when they take away tips -- and we found the model that works best for us. i don't encourage that every restaurant or every chef or restaurant owner take away tipping pipts's tipping. it's just something that works for us here in pittsburgh. the cornerstone of this is kind of treating your employees as professionals. that's what we would encourage
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other restaurant owners to do. >> take your time here my final question. what motivated you to do this the national conversation? >> no. we had -- i mean this is bar marco, this is a pittsburgh thing. this is about the employees that we have now. the biggest risk for us going into our fourth year was not doing something like this ed because we know the quality of employees that we have and we want to keep these guys and we want these folks to be part of our business and grow as we do. >> do you think there will be less turnover? >> yeah we've been fortunate thus far. pittsburgh doesn't see the restaurant turnover that you kind of associate with this industry across the country, but yeah, i mean we anticipate kind of smoother turnovers as well. >> justin steel, owner of bar marco, and a great employee andrew heffner. congratulations. i think it's a model for the country. i think it's great. because i've known people in the service industry who feel like
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they've been shafted for years. you're changing that you're paying attention. good evening, rev. >> good evening, ed. and thanks to you for tuning in. tonight's lead the president going on offense. today in a joint news conference with britain's prime minister president obama delivered a message to congress warning he would veto any new sanctions on iran because they could damage negotiations over that country's nuclear program. >> congress needs to show patience. so respect to a veto i said to my