there is a fleury of activity -- a flurry of activity in the white house the state of the union hours away and the foreign tactics, and now he has say surging approval rating a surging stock market and market rate and an unending threat of terror. and let's get to the white house, casey hunt is on the north lawn. casey, what do you know? >> reporter: hey, toure. looking nice. >> looking sharp yourself. >> nice new package there. the white house is putting the final touches on the state of the union address but one thing different this time around is we actually know a lot more going in about what the president plans to say than we have in past years when they usually keep this under wraps. the president has been traveling the country, making different

stops in different places to announce a series of policy initiatives and executive actions when he gives the annual address to congress. along them are lower mortgage premiums free community college and paid sick leave. the overarching theme is to focus on the middle class to make sure that the recovery touches all americans. and as part of that. we saw them roll out over the weekend a $320 billion -- excuse me -- tax increase on the wealthiest americans to pay for $175 billion tax cut for middle class americans. so that is the theme that you'll see them rolling out and you're already seeing republicans start to object to that. even though tax reform which is kind of what this policy would be part of is something that both sides agree they can work on, it doesn't sound like the cuts that the president are proposing will go far in the new congress. >> casey hunt on the white house, thank you for that. and joining us lauren fox

from the national journal who just published a piece about how the new republican party has got to get on the same page. i love that article. lauren, the president will talk about the economy and about the threat from radical islam, but what do you think americans really want to hear about? how the economy is getting better and the president's plans for that going forward or how he will deal with radical islam? >> we've seen the economy getting better. as you noted. the unemployment rate is low compared to when the president entered the white house at 2009 down at 5.6%. i still think americans want to hear the president tell them they are safe and the united states government and congress are doing everything they can to keep what happened in paris from happening in the united states. i think that americans understand that the economy is getting better but what they want to hear from the president is how he is keeping them safe. >> well, lauren, let's focus in on the tax reform proposals that

are a big part of the state of the union. casey hunt outlined them. help for the middle class and some new taxes on the rich it's been called obama's pickety moment, after the economists who is doing work on inequality. but he proposed a top rate of 80% and a global wealth tax and obama's proposals are a long way to that. and i know republicans are objecting. are progressive pz satisfied with how big he's going here? >> i think progressives recognize the president is in a difficult spot. the republicans have said this is a nonstarter for them. even though tax reform is something everyone is willing to sit down and work on together this is just not something they are going to go after. so i think -- [ inaudible ]. >> i feel like he's not going to get anything he wants to any

way, you may as well come out with something bold to deal with the problem. >> i think the president is trying to make an opening offer here. and so i think that he can't come out too bold without criticism that this is just ridiculous and it is not going anywhere which of course we're seeing republicans already doing. but i still think the president had to make some kind of offer that at least republicans have to consider. he wants to put them on the defensive here even though they won congress overwhelmingly in november. >> yeah. and lauren you have a piece out about how the republican party has to find a way to come together, which i agree with. the one thing that they do unite on is not increasing taxes, especially when it comes to investment. that is something that the president proposing tomorrow night and if it was proposed four years ago it wouldn't have passed and now with a republican congress this is going nowhere and if anything he's helping potential democrat candidates something to tee off and work

with. >> special what the state of the union is tomorrow is this opening argument for what 2016 democrats will have to make a pitch to in terms of getting voters in 2016. so i think moving forward, what we'll see is the president and democrats continue to hold firm on areas like giving workers paid time off for when they are sick and things like that that get to the heart of the middle class workers before republicans try to get back at the white house. because certainly they are feeling very confident after the november election that that is within their grasp. >> that is the domestic side. as toure was mentioning earlier, we are still in a climate with tremendous anxiety about terror abroad and debates in washington over the cia and thein tear aggravation program and over with they can do oversight. you wrote about this the cia showing it was only a miscommunication that led to the cia surveilling the

investigators to try to figure out whether the cia had done anything wrong, that is what the report said. a lot of people find that hard to believe and myself included. and from your reporting, if that is all it was, why did the cia director brennan apologize in the first place. >> i don't think this is the last we've heard of the report. democratic senator ron wyden has said this is not something he'll let go. i think we can expect senator dianne feinstein, the ranking member and formerly the chairwoman, she will continue working on this issue. i think the discussion between the relationship and the cia and those who provide oversight on the cia continues to erode. it will be interesting what happens. >> which is it? did he make a mistake and apologize. the report said they didn't do anything and the cia director rarely apologized and he did to senator feinstein, so what do you make of it? >> it was unclear of whether the terms of the agreement were laid

out. it depends on who you ask. republicans say nothing has happened here and democrats continue to talk about this as if there is more evidence that the relationship between cia and the senate democrats has deteriorated. >> and the battles are around keystone and immigration, two things the house is trying to send up the pike to the white house. do you imagine the president will take this as an opportunity to push back against those initiatives? >> certainly. i think the president isn't going to waste an opportunity to say, look when it comes to the keystone pipeline this isn't something i will sign and tip to remind republicans, if you want to see changes in immigration reform if you want to see changes to my executive action then pass your own bill. this has been something the president said repeatedly and it remains to be something he really needs republicans to act on if he's going to roll back those executive actions. >> lauren there are a lot of things that the president would like to say that just politically is impossible. he can't say. there are things we would like him to say that he can't say. what is something you would like

to hear the president to say that you imagine he can't say? >> well i think tomorrow the president has not talked a ton about race in a year that is marked by racial divides within this country. what we've seen with shooting of unarmed black men and also some other deaths police-related deaths. i think the president has an opportunity tomorrow when all of the united states is watching when programming is blacked out for this presidential address to talk about some of those things but the president has been so reluctant that i would be surprised if he took the opportunity to do that. >> i think that is right. lauren fox thank you for your time. still ahead, college free for all. we'll dig into the president's big ideas everybody will talk about on wednesday morning and here from millennials about what they want to hear from the big speech. the full coverage starts tomorrow night at 8:00 p.m. there is more "the cycle" still

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today the foreign policy chief of the european union called for a broader coalition to fight terrorism and better cooperation within the e.u. and with muslim nations. now the global debate continues over how the world's 1.6 billion muslims should respond to the fall group of people who are committing terror in the name of islam and that is something jon stewart recently tackled. >> absolutely 100%in equivocally condemn these actions. >> ahhh.

yeah, i have to be honest. i just did not feel that last one coming from him. >> yeah i don't know. it just -- it didn't sound as condemning as i like. >> no i condemn just as hard as you do. >> it is not a contest. although we could agree, hassan, you could have put in a little effort to that. all caps or something. >> that was all caps. >> it wasn't sincere. >> no. you think it would have been a little more shameful. >> right. or just like denounce-ier. >> i know what is going on. because i'm muslim i have to be more condemning that you guys. you are holding me to a condemn your standards. >> now we are joined by the council or foreign relations the first special representatives to muslim representatives. good day to you.

>> good day. >> you talk about a young danish girl whose imam told her she wasn't a true muslim because she wore jeans. you talk about how they feel split between their normal life and a religious life influenced by the internet and foreign religious leaders. >> i talked about a crisis of identity happening to millennial muslims around the world, not just in europe. but what is specifically happening in europe that you've seen is that you are having influences that are coming to these young kids both online and offline, that talk to them about their identity. and when you think about millennial muslims growing up into a post 9/11 context where the word muslim is on the front page of a paper, online and offline, this generation of muslims are asking questions that their parents and grandparents haven't asked. what is the difference between culture and religion? how can you be modern and muslim

to simplify things. when the loudest voices in that space are those from the extremists, we have a problem. and so the example that you pulled out about a young girl that i met in 2007 in denmark is a really important one because her imam didn't come from europe. her imam came from someplace outside of europe. and an imam who didn't speak danish or know about danish history. this is a girl trying to navigate her identity and told she must look a way that does not marry with what is happening in her particular cultural context. and that is a simplified example, but it is an important one. because as we think about how to push back against the ideology of the extremists we have to understand that this crisis of identity is central to what is taking place with young muslims all around the world.

whether it is muslims and muslim majority countries or muslims living at minorities. >> farrah, lovely to have you on the show. >> thank you. >> and one of the things that i consistently find frustrating is where christians say where are the moderate muslims who are doe announcing this and -- denouncing this and that is happening but i don't think it is the responsibility for the moderate muslims to speak for the lunatic fringe. where do you stand on that. >> since 1989 when salmon rushdie, the fat ma was issued against him, how do the islam communities around -- the muslim communities around the world respond. and you've seen this bear out and after 9/11 you've heard the refrain over and over again. as smsh who worked in the bush and the obama administration it was important from a government level to hear the kinds of

condemnation from important symbolic figures around the world and that has happened in spades. but what do you do about the community level? because who we might think as a government should speak out, actually doesn't have an influence at the community level. what i do hope we see and continue to see around the world is condemnation for violence period around the world, obviously, but secondly vis-a-vis what is happening in the aftermath of the paris attacks. communities can de-escalate the emotion, both muslims and nonmuslims can do that in a vibrant way and what i hope we can do is to see more attention being paid to young kids to push them in a direction toward the extremist ideology and it will only take the coalition of communities pushing back against that kind of ideology that will actually change the game for all

of us. and the thing is the vast majority of recruitment is possible. and the answers are available and they are affordable. and the way we have to think about this is a whole of community response to what has been happening around the world. >> farrah i wanted to get your thoughts on the things that louisiana governor bobby jindal has been saying on radical islam and he's eyeing a potential 2016 bid. he was in london today giving a speech called exposing the truth about radical islam. nbc spoke to him and here is what he had to say. >> i'm all for legal immigration where people want to come to america, learn our values learn our language work hard and get an education and improve themselves and economy. what i'm not for is when people want to come to our country, set themselves apart, don't want to learn our value and form our ways and you are looking at folks who want to come and

overturn our culture, come in and almost colonize our countries. i think we have to stop those people from coming into our country. >> he said we have people who are coming here who want to colonize our country. what do you say to that? >> i'm actually not sure what he's referring to to be honest with you. the extremist ideology is in every part of the world and that is the thing we need to focus on. we need to be as committed to fighting the ideology of the extremists as we are fighting terrorists. and that is where we have to focus. playing politics on any side of the spectrum doesn't make sense at this crisis moment for humanity. as somebody who travelled to 80 countries around the world talking to muslim millennials i will tell you the crisis is real. we have to absolutely do everything that we can to figure out how to push back against the narratives of the extremists. and as we think about muslims in muslim majority country and muslims living as minorities, they are living in a lot of

different eco-systems and so there is no model, not one kind of muslim. the extremists do not represent muslims. they represent extremists who have an extreme ideology that is using a religion for their political ends and focus on that fact. that is what we're dealing with with that threat. >> i think that is very well said. we often don't think how many muslims there are in this world. as ari was moibting out -- pointing out earlier, 1.6 billion and 62% are under the age of 30, living in the post 9/11 world. give us a sense of what you think the young muslims think about the debate we've been having around the satirical cartoons, around poking fun at prophet muhammad. what do they think about this? >> there is no one answer. muslims are not a monolith around the world so you have to listen to what is happening at

the local level in terms of getting responses. but it becomes dangerous when we begin to say this is what all christians or all hindus think or all muslims think about things. as we wax the last -- as we watch the last 13 years evolve after 9/11 we've had many debates about communities that have been offended by various things that happened. ive remembered a few years ago on the runways in london and in paris, there was a designer that had a hindu god on a t-shirt and there was a huge amount of reaction in india because of that. i know that some of us can remember when maple thorp put out his photographs. as an american of course i believe in freedom of speech and i think that the reaction from communities needs to be as i said, a whole of community. and understand there are varied reactions to things that are out there. violence is never the answer. and i hope to see a more robust and articulate conversation going forward about stopping the

extremist threat and that is what we need to be focused on. >> farrah pandit thank you for joining us today. >> thank you. up next a bold idea from the president that has been overshadowed by the terrorist and we're going to hear about it tomorrow night and more on the "the cycle." and i went behind the scenes in the west wing during the countdown to the big night. we'll have that report and interviews with the president's top advisers tomorrow on "the cycle." okay buddy what's your favorite kind of cheerios? honey nut. but... chocolate is my other favorite... but apple cinnamon is my favorite too... and fruity... oh yeah, and frosted! okay, but...what's you're most favorite

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hope you didn't get caught in the ice storm yesterday. >> yes, we did. >> you didn't get stuck in it? >> yes, we did. >> freezing rain that we saw yesterday from philadelphia to new york city. havoc on the highways. we have some video of the scenes we were seeing on the new jersey turnpike and everything was a sheet of ice. it hit hard and fast and it wasn't expected. we weren't expecting the cold air to linger around that much. it is funny, our chief meteorologist over at wnbc janet huff, she lives on a hill. and as toure knows, higher in altitude it gets colder but the cold was just on the surface and at janice's house on the hill it was warm enough for rain but on the bottom of the hill there was ice. the cold air was dense and it caught us by surprise. now thankfully temperatures are warming. we can go to the maps and see everyone is well above freezing.

41 in bridgeport. light snow showers there. and nothing in philadelphia and no more ice arth the northeast. our next system will be a clipper system from the great lakes an back to the northeast. we are not expecting ice but light snow. it has been a very tame winter and that trend will continue. we're talking about pain a couple of inches of snow wednesday into wednesday night. low pressure off the coast so travel could be impacted for the big cities of the northeast again. philadelphia to new york city. this is a future tracker, how much snow we are expecting and the light gray is 1-3 inches. not a blockbuster. from the suburbs of philli into new york and into new england. tomorrow k0e8d in the great -- cold in the great lakes. looking good tomorrow for one more day. rain and snow in chicago with temperatures in 309s and-- 30s and then on wednesday it moves into the north east later on in the

day, wednesday afternoon and wednesday night. otherwise the quiet winter continues with no major storms on the horizon. >> very different from last year. raffi, thank you. so what will he talk about on wednesday? we always talk about weather. terror? that is a good bet. college education? yes. that is because the president tomorrow night is set to unveil a major higher education plan two free years of community college. that is right. two free years of education. but there is some strings attached to that. now from matt siegel the co-founder of the new media website helping millennials push for social change. and we love having you, matt. >> thanks, abby good to be here. >> and you push the issues important to millennials and the president is talking about that tomorrow night, free community college. how will this resonate for young

people? >> it will resonate huge. his approval rating is up 19 points with young adults because in his last term -- or his last two years he is starting to address bigger idealogical issues like not just the machinations over interrates but the fundamental cost of college in the first place. why is it so expensive and how can we shift from a system of loans back to grants. america was a system that at a time had a college -- college as a public good mentality and we've shifted toward viewing it as a private investment that is just for the individual and we are now starting to look back and say all of this disinvestment from the states in education makes no sense. let's start to put money toward community college as a first good step in the right direction. take away the student loan debt crisis from people and give them an opportunity to have the skills they need to compete in the future work force.

i also think, by the way, conservatives should really like this plan because they bemoan the skills gap all of the time and how all of these employers can't find talent with the right skills they need. well they are no longer going to have to shoulder the training costs. >> well i have an issue with that arg and i argument and i think this is a good proposal an helpful for a good point of people but it misses the point with the underlying points of our economy. and it is said that higher education is becoming the gin seng of policy world, a sort of all-purpose snake oil as long as we consume enough of it. why aren't we asking ourselves to create more opportunity for people without diplomas instead of how many more years we can keep everyone in school. isn't the problem here there isn't enough good jobs in the

economy. >> i think it is two-fold. i think that is a myopic way of looking at it. it increases our in quiziveness and work force productivity. but i think asking people to take on debt in order to compete is an unfair request. i agree with that. >> but matt the overwhelming majority of jobs being created are low paying service sector jobs. so even if you have a degree if you are working in one of those jobs you have people who graduated from college and working retail earning little more than the minimum wage. >> and it is unacceptable. obviously millennials are -- our audience cares deeply about raising the minimum wage. we have about at the forefront of that battle. but the fact of the matter is in order to innovate and create jobs that are future forward-looking, stem jobs those are positions that community colleges technical schools and the public university system can help

create path ways for people to go toward. and i think that is really obviously the benefit of education as a means to an end in getting a job. but by all means, i think we need to lift wages for everyone. we can't subject people to poverty when they work one or two jobs at 7$7.25 an hour and i hope the president in his state of the union will make another passionate case for raising the minimum wage. >> and outrageous for the government to be profiting, as much as it is if at all, on student debt from loans, a huge cause for elizabeth warren. it is a huge issue on your plate? >> the profits off student loans have been a vexing crisis that just seems so unjust especially when they are being used to pay down the deficit as opposed to being being reinvested in college affordable. look i think we need to shift toward a system like denmark or

like new zealand that not only has free college -- free four-year college by the way, but gives students allowances for room and board and for thence illary costs pertaining to cost. they give you up to $200 a week so you are not in poverty for pursuing an education. and i think students in america are seeing what other countries do and realize it is obscene, to quote senator warren we are not replicating them. >> matt siegal important issues. thank you for being with us. >> my pleasure. >> and straight ahead, we'll hear from millennials about their hopes for the speech and the direction of the country. but next the movie smashing box offices and also sparking a little bit of controversy.

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in america right now is "american sniper." the tale of chris kyle play bid bradley cooper has brought in over $105 million and the largest january ever and it takes us into the fog of war, the difficulties of knowing who to shoot and when. in country in love with freedom of speech controversy was sure to follow. on sunday michael moore, said my uncle killed by a sniper in world war ii we were told snipers were cowards, they will shoot you in the back. snipers are not heroes. and invaders are worse. jesus, take the wheel. and that should come as little surprise given that hollywood loves to push the envelope and push the amendments an people are allowed to step out and say anything they want. and my next guest, give a warm

welcome to my friend lindsay nazel, her next book is how hollywood is created. and i'm embarrassed by what was said reprehensible and the first amendment has the right to -- we have a sense in america that people can say what they want as long as it is not hate speech and it allows ideas and stupid things that have to be said and we have to defend people's right to say stupid stuff and at the right time we hate what they may say. >> and they can even say hateful things. they can say anything. but i think more important than the first amendment is the intellectual property clause. there is copyright and patent in the constitution and that allowed us to have hollywood, silicon valley rock and roll

all of these things that we have here. >> and part of the way that that was enshrined in the constitution determined the fact that creativity is going to be regulated in some respects by market forces. and you wrote this you said in the united states you are a genius if people buy what you are selling. you go on to say a critical success with lousy box office returns is not great at all until it makes money on demand. talk to us what you mean about that. is that a good thing? >> i think it is because it says that audiences, not critics and certainly not the government knows what is good. it turns out that what is popular is what is good. and i think that is mostly -- >> so kim kardashian she is high art and she is good. >> i don't think she's making so much from anything she creates. i'm not sure that is quite right. but i would say normal nailer made money from what he created. a lot of great art has come to

us through selling well. that is mostly how things have gotten done here. martin scoreses ay has good box office returns. >> but that doesn't function in the movies. guardians of the gal. y is the best grossing and movies that you love apocalypse now -- they don't do well at the box office. >> do you think it didn't do well at the box office? >> not when it came out. >> i can't tell. and the godfather has done well over time. >> not when it came out. and scar face two was not a big film when it came out. >> the godfather was a big hit when it came out. we've had both. >> but what you are speaking to is people talk about the constitution protecting free speech and you are encouraging us that the constitution clause from the founders said speech

could be free be creation should be valuable and profit from it. >> the constitution invented the audience. it did that -- what happened with shakespeare was something you could go see because the queen wanted to see it and you could go also because she wanted to see it. what they said was, no when the audience wants to see it and buy tickets to see it you can see whatever you want to see. it invented the idea not only was the government democratic but entertainment was democratic. it is a different kind of thing. it said you can trust people to like something and actually i think most of what is good -- people will generally like things overall. they'll like some very bad things too but they like a lot of good things. a lot of the things that are nominated for oscars are also popular. i don't think people -- people are not bad. people are not idiots. people like a lot of very good things. i think it turns out that what we make here we make a lot of great things that are popular. we are good at that.

that is what we do really well here. we make popular stuff that great. >> speak to the history of intellectual property and why this was important to our founding fathers. we debate about what they metropolitan wrote in the constitution and the second amendment being a big one. but intellectual property is something we all agree with and hasn't changed over time. >> they must have been incredible geniuses to see it was a good idea because 90% of the people were farmers. there was no sign anybody who invent anything here. they must have just really -- >> but they didn't see the god father coming back then? >> but they must have been geniuses because they left england at all. most people grew up and died in the same house back then. you didn't get very far at all back then. they were -- they were -- it is a nation of immigrants. so they had a pretty good sense of -- they were really really wild people. to think that they actually crossed the ocean.

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after the president addresses a joint session of congress and 30 million television viewers tomorrow

night, he'll underscore his state of the union message by sitting with some of the most influential voices of their time. three you tube stars. thursday the president will get grilled by a team style maiden a nurdy blogger and a green lip stake wearing comedian and this is in the effort to reach out to young americans and they my want to listen up to the next segment. the popular women's website refinery 29 ask what viewers' hopes and dreams are. >> more hopes for the future. >> i hope women take more risks. >> the wage gap for women is lifted. >> we get to the point where education is more important than digging into students' pockets. >> that our generation is the greatee qualizer no matter your skin color. joining us the vice president of

editorial strategy for strategy 29 naha gandy. tell us about what your readers shared with you. >> for sure. i think this is such an exciting moment for our readers. we want to make sure their voices are heard and what they say is they care deeply about the issues the president is talking about tomorrow. they care about the economy. they care about obviously student loan debt. this is a generation that is struggling under more debt especially student loan debt than any generation before them. and they are seeing there is a greater wealth gap for them than there has been for any generation before them. so for people who didn't go to college. it doesn't feel like they have a ton of options other than to incur the debt. but beyond that they are a generation that really supports lgbt rights the most dif irs generation so far and an optimistic generation. >> those are the two big issues

that stand out, is equality and economy. and the economy is something i'm sure the president will spend a chunk of time talking about tomorrow night. but how does he speak about it in a way that resonates with young people. when they say that connects with me and makes me feel better about my future. >> i think to make a connection of what people are talking about and that is why we made the video, speaking to the moments important to the women and the specific ways in which they touch the economy. so it is about student loan debt and it is about the burden of 50% of the women are living paycheck to paycheck. 20% of them are below the poverty line and those numbers are important in connecting to those moments and pieces and connecting the larger policy piece to those moments is what is important. >> when you talk about half of millennials living check could check, what is the generation? >> of living paycheck to

paycheck? >> yes. >> they are not saving. they are having trouble paying off student loan debt and credit card debt, their struggling. and i think when they think about the about the larger policy pieces of the economy they really need it connected to them. they're having a hard time right now. >> do they feel like the president has given them a better sense of the future? >> i think yes and no. we're not going to hear the president directly address young women in his address tomorrow but the fact he's going on youtube -- she's very young. she does speak to this generation, and that feels hope hopeful, so yes and no. >> that goes to the way the white house is trying to evolve outreach. this is a chance to address

these journalists. when i was at the white house on friday we walked through the digital area. they are going to reach a lot more people. it is not just about white house reporters. it is about these citizen journalists. the question for you, with a web that does reach a lot of people what's the difference when they talk to a site like yours or these citizen bloggers if you will? >> i think it is about a two-way conversation. it's that when they talk to us the conversation doesn't end after we tell them a story. we find their voices and we bring them back in a video like this. we make sure their voices are reflected back out, and i think that's what's so powerful. it's a two-way street. when people say something, they feel the president is listening, the white house is listening. for us we're not just publishing content on the site.

we're also on snap chat, instagram. sometimes we publish to medium. it is really interesting that the white house is publishing to media sometimes now. >> this is a sentiment i don't personally agree with but some would say this is a lifestyle website looking at fashion and other things. what business do you have weighing in on politics? what did make you undertake this project? is this something the readers of your site were pushing for? >> women care about a wide range of things. our inception comes from a place of personal style. it comes from a place of independent thinking and ultimately what we want to do is reach 360 degrees of these peoples' lives. it is really narrow minded when people say you care about fashion, you can't also care about politics. >> so well said.

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this year king day is a bit more difficult than most. it is more trying i feel, because we have been locked for months in an intense national conversation about how black people are treated in this country, as well as inequality and our never ending wars in iraq and syria. if he came back today to see the new jim crow, massive inequality, and the middle east he may think little has changed. a brand-new poll finds 70% of black people do not believe dr. king's dream has been realized. how do we demand justice? what tactics do we use? just having to say, black lives matter is offensive, but we must say it.

so how do we demand justice in the most effective way? the life of dr. king teaches us that the answer comes from radical love revolutionary love. king wrote we must love our white brothers no matter what they do to us. we must make them know that we love them. jesus still cried out in words that echo across the centuries, love your enemies, bless those that curse you. from that love must flow a forgiveness. trust me i understand the anger that underlies the riots that we saw last year and people who have been rioting have probably been suffering for decades. i'm not saying i would have done it but i understand. truly lasting change does not come from defeating enemies. it does not seek to defeat or humiliate the opponent but to

win his friendship and understanding. true lasting change comes from subsuming people into your movement. subsuming so many people of so many races that the power structure is forced to bend. the only way to bend is to conduct your movement with such dignity and race that people want to join you. that's how you win. king counselled us to avoid not only external physical violence but also internal violence of the spirit. the non-violent resister not only refuses to shoot his opponent, but he also refuses to hate him. at the center of non-violence stands the principle of love. the masses cannot admire people chanting about dead cops. they can march alongside people

ex exuding love for their enemies. we no longer speak of negroes and segregation, but we speak of blacks and their lives mattering. the force that makes it bend is that radical revolutionary love that powered the life of dr. king. have a great king day. alex wagner is up next. the president is commemorating the legacy of dr. martin luther king but not necessarily in the way you think. it's monday, january 19th, and this is "now." >> a bold effort by the president. >> battle lines are being drawn ahead of the president's state of the union address tomorrow