president obama went to another red state today. he is making clear he is not planning on backing down. republican congress be damned. after that speech, president obama basically opened the hatch on the lions den and jumped right in. from the state of the union first went to red state idaho yesterday. where he lost by good margins twice. they not about to turn blue, but he was speaking an boise. then he went to a redder state, kansas. he spoke in front of a crowd of

about 7,000 people. >> it's good deep roots in kansas. i have deep roots in kansas. as you know, my mom was born in wichita, her mom grew up in augusta. her father was from el dorada. so i'm, i'm a kansas guy. i'm a kansas guy. now -- now that helped me in the caucus here in 2008. it didn't help me as much in the general election. i lost two straight here. >> the president laughs about it, the crowd laughs act it.

and kansas is not just one of the reddest states in the country, if not the ready, it is the home of the shadow republican party, it is the home of the richest and most powerful presence in all of republican politics. it is the home of the koch's. the fifth and sixth richer men on earth. and in american politics, it sometimes seems as though charles and david koch are everywhere, but they have a geographic center and it is in kansas. president obama picked a fascinating week to turn up on the koch's home turf. every year they hold a big summit in palm springs. it used to be in as much secrecy as possible.

possibly because the protestors show what happens when people find out where the kochs are holding secret meetings. they like their privatety. it was part of their strategy for raising money from other extremely wealthy people who did not want to become as famous as the koch's are for their right wing politics. for years they specialize in raising and spending hundreds of millions of dollars from donors that don't have to reveal their identities. they have been a huge force in american politics. and they have done it by basically getting very, very rich conservative people. getting them to write very large checks for political campaigning without having to worry they would become known for having done so.

that part of the koch's operation, that part of who they are, raising money from other people who don't want to be known to do it, that part of koch world has noticeably begun to change. last summer, they unveiled a new super pack. for the first time they would be publicly identified. it didn't spook the donors. they brought that part of their network out of the shadows and the money kept flowing in. that seems to have started a new chapter for the koch brothers. a new openness about what they're doing. there he s charles koch sitting down with the "wichita eagle." there is david koch on tv telling barbara walters saying you would be surprised, he is actually quite liberal. they're talking about what presidential hopefuls they're

talking to. rand paul, ted cruz, chris christie all got meetings. this year they are letting it be known who they are meeting with and letting it be known they are not meeting with mitt romney and not inviting him to the summit this weekend in california. this is part of the way they're operating now. there is so many important candidates right now, one of the ways we're trying to figure out if they will make a run for it, whether or not they will be viable, one of the ways you can monitor that is see how well they are courting charles and david koch and their empire of funders. they will still not let donors into their summit this weekend

in palm springs. but in this new era of slightly new openness, they will set up a live stream of the main event. so this will be sort of the closest thing we have yet had to a koch party 2016 debate. they're going to allow it to be live streamed. if you wanted to know what would happen, you used to have to wait for someone to leak low-fi audio from a cell phone. they're now saying, essentially, we know, you know what we're doing, so we're going to late you see some of it. they are happy to be seen doing

what they do. coming out of the shadows willing to be the par real republican party. an interesting change. surprising, and i think it is probably effective. i think this decision to be a little more open about what they're doing probably has furthered their influence. for example, letting it be known their talking to candidates, that will boost their standing and if they like them, they're helping them by letting people know they're welcome in koch world. and that will hurt mitt romney, but the kochs are letting it be known they are not helping them. we'll see, it seems like coming out in that part of their political work will be oo good move for them.

but it is interesting. while that is all happening at one level of what the koch brothers do, there is a whole other way that operate in politics that is not coming out of the shadows and that gets almost no attention. this is at the university of kansas. the same campus that president obama spoke today. this is the student lounge in the business school at the university of kansas. they give money to a lot of universities including kansas. this is the center for applied economics. inside kansas' business school. it was founded with a donation from one of the koch charities. the man you see there is the centers director dr. art hall.

he is an economist and he used to work for koch industries. he as, since 2004, worked at the university of kansas. he is an employee of the university, his paycheck comes from the university of kansas, and a quarter of the salary coming from the economic center. there is also lots of evidence of hymn making waves outside of the university. making recommendations for how the economy should be run. here is some of his testimony, he has given public testimony on energy. it is one thing of an oil and chemical company tell you your state ought to vote against wind power. it's one thing if those guys tell you you ought to vote against wind power, but if it is a kansas university professor, that will be a little less

suspicious. with dr. hall, you can have that. last year he told the kansas legislature that the state's new standards calling for more wind power could be detrimental to wind power. his testify got attention last year in the local papers that pointed out his connection to the university and koch industries. it also got the attention of some students at the university of kansas. check this out. these are students for a sustainable future. they are a student environmental group. their president skylar krause had been hearing about the koch funding, and they thought they should learn more about art hall, and the koch funded

program at their school. so the university of kansas looked at their request, figured out how much time the staff would have to spend fulfilling the question. they say it will cost you $1800 because that is how much staff time it will cost. that may not be the most money in the world, but that's a lot of burritos and beer when you're a college student. at the kansas chapter, they ponied up more than half of the money so the students could get those records they asked for. and in november, the students got a first round of documents. they raised the money, they would get some of the information they wanted. but that did not last long because dr. art hall, the guy at the heart of the student's inquiry, he sued. he sued the university to make them stop releasing those

documents and he won. records requests were sand in the gears of economic freedom. a kansas judge ordered the university to stop releasing the documents. it bears saying there are real questions about academic freedom, right, and if college processors should be shielded from open records requests. real world examples of professors doing climate research, and that is the case that dr. hall is makes at ku. that the students search for outside influence on his testimony and his work, that is really an attack on his academic liberty. he told us today that he has complete autonomy to choose the issues on which the center conducts research.

dr. hall also told us that he is getting help from the koch's with his legal bills for his lawsuit. right now he is winning his fight with help from the koch's. the students wanted the documents, the university says they thought the stufrts were entitled to more records. so we have a classic david and goliath story, right? some of the worlds very richest billionaires. there is a question about the koch's that are a parallel republican party. they donate to hundreds of colleges and universities. the list of schools this month runs to four pages. school after school. academic freedom and the free exchange of ideas are cornerstones of our philanthropy.

we want to expand opportunity and increase the diversity of ideals on campus. there is a likely a koch funded program at a school near you. we reached out to the koch's today for comment, we did not hear back. this story in kansas marks a unique time in our politics. their new transparency, their new live stream from the top secret summit. they're in a fight to shut down access for a group of students in kansas and what they're doing to influence their education. i think president obama was looking for a friendly audience in a red state at those student's university.

he was also in kochville when he gave that speech today. joining me now is a political reporter from the "new york times." nick, you have been on the campaign finance beat for a long time. i think that the koch brothers and their network, they seem to be making a change about being more public about what they are doing. >> with koch's regard, coverage and scrutiny have been taxed. everyone is paying attention, everyone cares who they give money to, everyone covers their events, so when we say let's control some of this debate a bit. if we have degree candidates in 2016 appearing in a room, t not a private event any more. let's live stream it. >> do you understand what they

view the tradeoff is? what do they think their doing. >> i think for this particular event, there is not a huge downside risk to them. and it takes some of the pressure off i think. there is so much attention paid to these conferences now. people sneak in and try to record things. i think if you let in a little air into this room, it's not so bad, it will demystify it. and the big donor conferences are pretty humdrum. >> one of the things that i appreciate about your reporting, and is hard to get your head around, is how to understand the

magnitude of the money, and understand the relationship of the koch's, their money, and how they can direct it through their networks. if myth romney is being boxed out, not being put on the list of approved candidates, does that effectively count him out as financial contender for the nomination? >> i don't think we're at that point yet. donor base and republican politics for big donors, and raising money for colleges,

family, and candidates, most of them are not part of this group. what is interesting is part of the traditional republican network. it is an added value, it is an extra set of people you can get on your team if you are republican, and you can't necessarily have them if you're a traditional republican. what we seem them doing here is inviting the rising stars of the 2016 class, the next generation people, and saying we think these guys are worth paying attention to. you might get more money that you might not have access to at all. >> it is a parallel universe. >> yes, i think they will be converging more and more overtime. >> and part of the event is to say look, we're here, we're important, this is an important stop in the invisible primary and if you're not here it is a bad thing.

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republicans knew they would have a good year overall and they hatched a plan to use the big republican year and a complicated sketchy a national fund raising scheme. they hatched a plan to take over alabama politics in 2010 and it worked. the chairman wrote this book about it, storming the state house, and in 2010, for the first time since 1874, republicans took control in alabama. they took the alabama legislature. the author of that book was elected speaker of the house, and they indicted him on 23 felony corruption counts. he is mike hubbard.

he was hit by nearly two dozen felony ethics charges. he was arrested and charged. it was two weeks before the november election. in that november election, he was reelected to his seat in the alabama house and then his fellow republicans in the house reelected him speaker. here's his mug shot. there are headlines all of the time about his impending trial, and how he is defending himself against the 23 corruption charges and he continues to serve as the most powerful public official in the state of alabama. while under indictment. alabama doesn't much seem to mind, but it is an awkward thing. and he is not the only one. just a couple weeks before alabama speaker of the house mike hubbard was indicted, just

a few weeks before that, two states over in south carolina, they too arrested near speaker of the house in september. the republican house speaker bobby harold was arrested on nine felony corruption charges. pleading guilty saved him from six years in prison. he had to give up that sweet, sweet job as speaker of the south carolina house. it is not just in the south where this is a problem. a spectacular run with house speakers where three in a row were not just charged, but convicted of felonies. three in a row, come on now. and now it happened again. this one might have ripple effects for at least one democratic politician who i think wants to be taken serious

as a contender for the white house one day. this time the house speaker hit with multiple felony corruption charges is from the great state of new york. in new york, there is someone in state government in new york that is not already in prison or out on bail? the number of them in jail or who have plead guilty, or under indictment, centured, or thrown out, is literally too many to list. this is just a sprinkling of members of the state assembly and state senate and their criminal actions. the guy they arrested today is a little different than all of the rest of those other guys. he is the guy in charge. a lot of people say he is not just the guy in charge of the state assembly as speaker. a lot of people consider him to be the guy that basically runs the state of new york, and who has run the state of new york for 20 years now.

he has been in the state assembly since 1974. he has been speaker of the state assembly since 1994. people talk about how things are done in new york state, for a generation, they say that new york makes all of their deals, policy, and laws by a new york system they call three guys in a room. one of those three guys in the room is whoever is governor at the time. for 20 years now, the constant, the third guy in the room that runs everything forever as everyone else cycles in and out, that has been for a generation has been sheldon silver. they say he had a no work job at a law firm or two that paid him millions of dollars. he used his position as the most

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north dakota. it is about an hour drive from the canadian border. i don't know how your week is going, but they're in the middle of a really, really bad week. first, on saturday afternoon, an oil pipeline burst in glendive, montana. it was a 12 inch oil pipeline that burst and polluted the yellowstone river. the residents are forced to use trucked in emergency bottled water. the residents are hanging in there, but it could take weeks to clean up all of the oil spills in the river. that river, of course, is not a static body of water, no river is. even with a bunch of house, that river flows from montana into

north dakota. when that spill happened, williston, north dakota starts bracing. they tested their water and looking for the same trace elements of crude oil turning up in the water in glendive. the water, at least so far, was okay, despite that spill upstream. news came this morning that williston did not just have a problem upstream, they were stating another spill, another poe tally unrelated pipeline spill just north of the city. officials said there was yet

another pipeline spill, it wasn't a few tens of thousands gallons, this time it was three millon gallons of a chemical brine that leads right towards williston. it turns out a pipeline carrying that brine ruptured in an area north of williston. they informed the state of the leak, but it was not until today that we learned that not only was there a spill, but surprise, it is apparently the single largest spill of it's kind in state history, and this is a state that has had a lot of spills.

it's not known when the spill started or how long it went on for before it was detected, but they're saying three million gallons. the solution at this point, it is almost impossible to believe. the main body of water this brine spilled into it called blacktail creek. state officials say blacktail creek will now be, quote, fully drained. that is part of the initial clean up, that is the solution. a serious spill into the creek, let's get rid of the creek. the pipeline company, i tell you not, brought in violent vacuum trucks to suck all of the water out of the creek which is not the easiest process. a spokesman saying the problem is that the creek bed is being replenished with water so we extract, it fills, we extract, it fills, yeah, the creek, it turns out is not some water feature added to the landscape because it was cute. it is there because there is

supposed to be a creek there. vacuuming it up will probably not disappear it. they're trying to disappear the creek. in the meantime, residents of williston are waiting to find out if the spill upstream ruined their drinking water, or if it is the spill in their backyard that is ruining their drinking water supply. in terms of determining what caused that spill in montana, the one in glendive, montana, there is a development on that story tonight as well. the pipeline that burst under the river, we asked them to come on the show, there has been no official determination yet by either the company or by the state of montana about what exactly was the cause of that pipeline break under the river. but the website inside climate news says the pipeline was built with faulty welding in the '50s. they used a technique that is

widely considered to be vulnerable to cracking overtime. do you hem that exxon oil pipeline that burst, that ruined a neighborhood that they didn't know was there until it burst. that pipeline was also built using the same faulty welding techniques. the same technique that's were reportedly used in the pipeline that just burst open. just upstream from williston. it is not clear what caused this latest rupture in montana, but that 1950s era lousy welding technique is being raised as a possible culprit. joins us now is elizabeth douglas.

ms. douglas, thank you for being with us tonight. >> thank you, rachel. >> how many pipelines across the u.s. use this type of 1950s welling that has been highlighted at problematic here? >> i think it is about a third that carry hazardous liquids. they are oil, gasoline, diesel, and things like that. about a third of them have been built using that kind of process. >> in terms of the pipeline ruptures that we have seen, when you look at them carrying hazardous liquids, should we see it as being related to age? is it related to technological failures? is it basic monitoring and maintenance?

>> there is a number of problems, i think you can put it in three categories. there is regulatory problems, there is market trends that are causing problems, and there are unknowns that have to do with the chemical reactions of steel under ground and water. if you take the top one, government regulation, there are not enough government inspectors to go around to make sure all of these pipelines are being watched as closely as they need be, and are being tested and checked with internal kal ras and sensors and so forth. and underneath that, the regulation that is the primary way of assuring us that the pipelines are safe is really a

very big judgment call by pipeline companies. it has a fancy name, it is integrity management. and that means that every company decides what is good for their specific pipe. they decide what the risks are and if they will fix them. >> can we say there are things we know to be good practices for maintaining the pipelines that the industry is not doing? is there things that would be effective that are not widely done in the industry? >> it depends on what the problem is with the pipeline. the problem that we're talking about is very prone to cracking. there are ways that you operate the pipeline in order to reduce the chances of those cracks growing while you're using the pipeline.

one is that you try not to make the pressure go in big cycles of big delta between the highest pressure that liquid is moving through and the lowest pressure. that is one of the things, it's partly the way you operate it. >> elizabeth douglas, thank you for helping us understand, i appreciate you being here. >> thank you. >> so there was a burst of

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president obama sat down for three interviews today with some of the most high profile people he has granted an interview this year. three youtube stars who sat down and asked the president lots of questions. they talked about cuba and north korea, sanctions, they talked about president obama's first wife.

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this is the director of the cia, john brennan. previous cia director was retired general david petraeus. he resigned when it was discovered that while he was leading the nation's spy agency, he was having a secret extramarital affair. we're waiting now to find out if he will be criminally charmed for providing classified information. prosecutors are investigating that, and they have recommended that he should be indicted on those charges. as yet, no official word. you may remember, though, how that whole scandal started. the reason that affair came to light is because of an unrelated investigation. a friend of general petraeus approached the fbi and asked for help after she said she received stalker-ish, threatening e-mails about her friendship with petraeus. it's when fbi agents started

investigating that they stumbled upon evidence that general petraeus had something going on in his personal life. they didn't start off looking for evidence that he was having affair, but that is what they found and why he quit. now it's happened again. only this time, it's not the head of the cia. this time it's the head of the u.s. navy base at guantanamo bay in cuba. this time the original investigation was not about some threatening e-mails or a stalker. this time the initial investigation was about a body. a body found floating in the surf just off the coast in cuba. 42-year-old man was found dead last sunday. an american, a former marine who was a civilian employee at that naval base. he worked at the commissary on the base. the day before his body was found, he had been reported missing by his wife, who also worked at the base. u.s. officials now tell multiple news organizations in the course of the investigation into that man's death, naval investigators discovered evidence of an affair

between the dead man's wife and the commander of the naval station at guantanamo bay. although adultery itself is a crime under the uniform code of military justice, the commander has not been charged with anything. he has been relieved of duty. on the record, this is an ongoing investigation. but the associated press within the last 24 hours published some language about this case and investigation that made it sound like it's going in a dark direction. the ap wrote that u.s. officials say the guantanamo commander is under investigation in connection with the death of the man who was found floating in the bay. that language makes it sound like the navy is investigate thing commander for involvement in an alleged murder at guantanamo. even without alleged murder implications, this story is shocking and sad and puzzling enough. a man is dead. the commander at guantanamo

naval base is out. none of it has been explained thus far on the record. but we'll keep you posted as we learn more. the commander at guantanamo naval base is out. none of it has been explained thus far on the record. but we'll keep you posted as we learn more. now time for "the last word with lawrence o'donnell." thanks for being with us tonight. yes, it's football night in america, even here on "the last word." of course we're going to talk about men who make their living playing with balls. and men who want to be president. >> jeb bush, mitt romney are meeting face to face. >> two when who have their eyes on the presidency. >> they are going to be competing for the same donors. >> each team has the same opportunity to prepare the balls. >> there's a lot of people who deserve the chance to lose a presidential election. >> sit down and shut up.