a better and open and just society. not just making noise but making change all over the world. thanks for watching. i'm al sharpton. "hardball" starts right now. youtube president. let's play "hardball." good evening. i'm chris matthews in washington. wild. president obama will not settle for thins as they used to be nor will he settle for americans of any age not getting involved with their country. he's out there doing interviews on youtube. and what's with bill clinton and martin scorsese? why are they shelving that documentary of theirs? is there something we really don't know? really? and why, oh why, do the

republicans who want to run against hillary clinton kissing up to steven king. the scary steven king not the one who wrote "pet sematary" the one in the clown car talking about deportables. and how is that one flying? our roundtable political analyst david korn of mother jones, susan milligan of u.s. news and world report and jonathan capetown. and the clip that went viral the interview with glozell green. >> my mama said whenever you go to somebody's house, you have to give them something. don't come empty handed. so i have green lipsticks. one for your first wife -- i mean. >> my first wife? you know something i don't. >> oh, for the first lady. >> one for first lady. >> and the first children. all right. i'm just going to put these here. >> let me just take a look at these, though.

they're very -- yeah it is impressive stuff. i'm going to see how it looks, i'll ask michelle to try it on maybe tonight. >> okay. >> okay. perhaps the most unusual video that comes from the white house, they haven't released that many to start with but that's up there right at the top. the green lipstick probably grabbed a lot of people's attention. explain. >> i don't wear green lipstick i don't know. >> first wife club. >> that was a good line. look, we started out with richard nixon on "laugh-in" we moved to bill clinton playing the saxophone on the arsenio hall show. we're at a point where if the president wants to reach a certain segment of the electorate they're going to have to go on youtube. >> and go where the people are. >> yeah. >> you know these numbers for the state of the union weren't that great overall. so the president obviously had to go out and get people who weren't watching. >> this is the "between two

ferns" strategy. when he wanted to get young people to sign up for health care, he did "between two ferns" people questioned whether this was respectable, it was hugely successful. it was a riot. i watched it at least 15 times. >> zach galifianakis has a manner. >> youth numbers spiked after that. >> and in participation. so it worked. >> the president is going where the -- >> going back even further, jimmy carter did his interview with "playboy" magazine which caused a few cringes, nobody has ever forgotten he did the interview. >> these guys together the youtube interviewers had 13 million fans viewers who watch them. that's about or more than a third of the entire tv audience. >> exactly. >> that watched the state of the union. >> exactly. >> people under the age of 30 35 40 in their 20s don't sit in front of tv any more. they share clips and watch thing

tlas go viral. that clip with glozell and the green lipstick -- >> you mean huntley brinkley is not on any more? >> maybe in your household it is, chris. >> anyway, the youtube stars, none of whom are actually called journalists, asked some good questions. let's listen. >> i watched the state of the union, a lot of really interesting ideas there. i'm not the only person who said this. a little worried that none of them are at all politically feasible. >> last april, boko haram kidnapped hundreds of school girls. >> right. >> and just last month, this actually happened again, and a lot of them are still missing. >> yeah. >> so what do you think we can do to raise awareness about this issue? >> pretty incisive stuff despite the fact it's new because barack obama didn't talk about boko haram haram. there was certainly a lot of conversation for things he wanted to get done that probably will never get done. they were great questions. >> they were great questions. what we saw here these are

three people none of us had probably not heard of before. some american people knew who they were. they're not journalists. but what they showed are the american people are much more interesting and a whole lot less superficial than journalists and professional folks like us think they are. of course they ask questions like that. they're curious. >> one of the best questions actually came at the end of hank green's 15 minutes when he told the president that he has some medical condition in which he used to have to pay $1100 a month for medicine but after obama care it's $5 a month. that was like the best commercial for obama care. and obama didn't even talk much about obama care at the state of the union. that exchange showed a lot. and how many people saw that? millions more than who watched all the political infighting over obama care. >> did you like the way the president -- it was rhetoric by the way, the thing about the first wife thing was funny. and the other thing he said to that young guy, look you have a

chronic condition, $1100 a month you have to pay for the prescriptions yourself. he turns to the camera and says a lot of young people are out there and they're young, lucky and they're fearless. they don't have any problems so they don't need health insurance, then you get hit with that problem and you need it. i thought it was a great pitch. "new york times" reports that martin scorsese that documentary on bill clinton which they were working on has been shelved over disagreement of control, key phrase there, key word there. the film carried the risk they write in"times" unflattering camera angle, i don't know about that or that an omission by mr. scorsese would become a blemish to mr. clinton's legacy or to provide fodder for clinton critics. went so far as to demand final cut, a privilege generally reserved for directors of mr. scorsese's stature.

he rejected those and the project was shelved. the president, former president, who is very smart but very audacious sometimes, he was afraid of screwing up in a way that might hurt his wife's campaign. it's about that. that's his sensitivity. not his reputation. everybody knows about monica and jennifer, that's history. but the future is what he's going to be sensitive to. that's my thinking. >> i think so as well. look, we already know more about this president than anyone anyone who read the starr report. >> the footnotes are pretty -- >> really don't need to know. and frankly, i think we know pretty much all everybody needs to know about hillary clinton as well. you won't change a lot of mines there. >> whoa whoa. >> what's the fight about then? >> being the leader of the free world and you're used to having -- >> it may not have been as much from him as from her or her camp. i'm not saying that she told him what to do. but if you're in the hillary clinton camp and you're getting everything together for a 2012

campaign which is going to cost about a half billion to a billion dollars, do you want this great film director out there doing something about the clintons that you have no control over it? it could just be a bad camera angle. doesn't have to be a new scandal. >> -- pressure on him. by the way, documentary is something we've all come to understand what it means. it doesn't mean an infomercial, it means something fairly tough. it has to be comprehensive. it can't be something that floets around floats around and looks good for the person. >> we're talking scorsese, i don't know what his politics are, but if the clintons were working with him, maybe the hope is that it would be something maybe favorable. >> they were working with imhad, but not any more. >> the problem for hillary clinton, would you want a documentary about the 42nd president where you'll have everyone looking back no matter how good those times were looking back when you're running to be president number 45 and you want the take the american people forward and you want them

to focus on you, not him. >> i think we found the right word, "control." diminish the number of pre-media, don't depend on the press, republicans wouldn't even let journalists involved in their debates. they want to run them themselves. and put most of what you do on paid tv commercials. >> this is too much of a gamble. >> they don't want anybody controlling anything. hillary is particular this way but maybe it was bill this time. the roundtable is coming up next. hopefuls descend on iowa to play homage to the clown car veteran, congressman steve king. democrats couldn't be happier to see chris christie and scott walker cozy up to the guy who compares hispanics to drug mules, and he calls them deportables. jeb bush unveils the blitz to pummel rivals like romney into

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welcome back to "hardball," the really scary steven king. there's a cattle call of

republican presidential hopefuls heading to pay homage to that true madman in the party, the immigration lightning rod known as congressman steven king. the attendees at king's iowa freedom summit he calls it include scott walker chris christie ted cruz mike huckabee and sarah palin who today officially threw her hat in the ring during an interview at the soup kitchen with abc news. >> status quo lately has been latin for we're getting screwed. >> have you any interest? >> of course. >> yeah? >> of course. >> of course. as politico reports democrats are looking to turn the king event into a spectacle that sets the gop further back with latinos. king's record with hispanics is frighteningly bad. robert costa is in iowa for the

king summit. is there any squeamishness out there about getting too close to king. he's scarier than the guy who wrote "pet sematary." >> jeb bush isn't here mitt romney isn't here. they've chosen not to attend this event. you have chris christie trying to have an early test huckabee santorum, a lot of the faces from the past. >> but in big states you have big numbers of hispanic voters. 90% of them like the president's position with the executive orders. i just don't understand if you're running in an electoral college competition next year where you have to carry 270 electoral votes, how can a republican win that way with a strategy of alienating hispanics? they're voters. >> it's all about getting the nomination. steve king is a you poer in iowa he's a political kingmaker, if you need iowa to get that jump in the 2016 race you have to appeal to the hard right of the party that embraces his immigration position. >> are you hearing out if

they're aping his commentary or showing up and using his good offices. in other words, are they sharing his point of view or just his space out in western iowa? >> i think they're sharing his space more than his view. anyone who is approached in 2016 they know that you can't have steve king at your side but it's something democrats are going to keep bringing up because republicans want the best of both worlds. they want king's political sway but don't want to associate too close with his views. >> thank you, robert costa. he's been doing wonderful reporting. this is king in his own words on what he thinks of immigrants crossing the border from the south. >> they're not all valedictorians they weren't all brought in by their parents. for every one there's another out there that weigh 130 pounds and they've got calves the size of cantaloupes because they're carrying marijuana across the

desert. >> that was concise. there was this conversation with a young latina activist at a rally. let's watchp about. >> please, please, stop a minute. you're have good in english. >> i was raised in the united states. >> you can understand the english language. >> don't pretend you can't speak english. >> they want to gain citizenship by enlisting into the u.s. army. we're not going to take your oath into the military but we're going tyke your deposition and we have a because for you to tee juan ta na. that's him. he should be on the statue of liberty, that guy. he called one of michelle obama's guests a deportable. that's something like a collectible but the opposite obviously. i'm rejoined by roundtable, david, susan and john. that's the kind of ethnic prejudice. >> it's disgusting. >> it's not about policy. it's about not liking a group of people. >> it's disgusting is what it is. the idea that people would go there, maybe be there with him

but keep their distance from his policies, i'm sorry. you cannot -- >> but it looks like a kissing booth no matter what they do. >> wait a minute wait. it's great that governor bush and governor romney are not there. it's great that they're not there. but the folks who are there -- >> rubio couldn't get in. >> but i wonder if any of those people would allow themselves to have a sister soulja moment where they go to the belly of the beast and say, you know what? steve king is wrong, the person who could do it is chris christie. i wonder i wonder if he has the guts. >> isn't it both parties have their sort of litmus tests like it seems like all republicans running for 2016 with the exception of rand paul are hawkish and pro-likud right wing as you can possibly be. going to the christian right and jewish community but they're playing this card. are there other rules like you have to be anti-immigration?

i think you're right. you have to be anti-immigrant. >> yeah, but the thing is it's disgusting, jonathan's right. it also doesn't work. since steve king's become a kingmaker in iowa what's happened? >> when did that start? >> in the early 2000s. in 2008 who won the iowa caucus. >> santorum. >> no mike huckabee. so he's getting the small number of caucus-goers. >> isn't he just surfing, isn't he just riding that. >> yes. he's getting them to get behind social conservatives who pull the party to the right. >> he's doing that. >> romney goes out there -- >> excuse me but pat robertson did this years ago. >> yes. >> i don't mean to be sarcastic. >> you can be sarcastic. >> he didn't invent right wing cultural point of view in iowa. >> but he's institutionalized it. since he's been in charge of the republican party in iowa it has only produced these social conservatives and drawn people

like mitt romney further to the right and it hurts them. >> not like huckabee ended up getting the nomination. >> that's exactly right. that's my point. >> you don't have to kiss steve king's ring to get anything. >> why are they doing it? >> the problem -- because it's iowa and you're kind of like at this point -- >> but this is perfect for the democrats. >> perfect for the democrats because it's not just steve king, the idea that you're going into 2016 not talking about immigration in this hypothetical way, but you have to actively say i want to separate families. >> i want to suggest one thing about this and african-americans have put up with this for 500 years in this country. it's not policy because if you can say there's a policy difference it's about who do you like and dislike. this is cultural. i think the fact that 90% of latinos in this country, 90% support obama on what he did with the executive orders. to me that isn't a nuanced thing. it's more of a statement if we

like this guy because he's looking out for us. >> you know what? here's the thing that all those people going to steve king are missing. every month for the next 20 years 50,000 latinos will turn 18. 18 is the voting age. you turn off those -- >> citizens. >> yes. and you are damning yourself not to national stature, but to regional reactionary stature. >> my question is why don't the republicans do some building for the future? like no reason for me to believe that hispanics aren't as entrepreneurial than anybody else they come from lousy governments. >> that's the moment. >> socially conservative. >> but this is a fight within the party. establishment wants to do something but the tea party doesn't. >> the roundtable is sticking with us and they're wise people. we honor winston churchill on the 50th anniversary of his

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lesson which they and the world will never forget? >> that was british prime minister winston churchill in his rousing speech to the joint session of the u.s. congress shortly after the attack on pearl harbor. our victory in that war was thanks in large part to that special relationship between the u.s. and britain, forged by churchill's persistence against the tide of american isolationism. his courage and optimism was on full display until the very end of his life. you can see during his last public appearance on his 90th birthday as he looked from the window to greet the well wishers that had gathered in hyde park. tomorrow marks the 50th anniversary of his death but churchill's legacy and the inspiration he provided to so many remains to this day. joining me is edwina sands who is the granddaughter of winston churchill and duncan sands, churchill's great-grandson both will be attending a memorial service to honor churchill

tomorrow. edwina i met you out there i guess about eight years ago when i gave that little address out there in honor of your grandfather. so what is it? you must have thought about this many times, what is it that seems to get americans -- and i mean, left, right and center -- so actually in love with the legacy of winston churchill? >> well i think it's partly because of his courage. americans as a whole are a courageous country and i think they really admire somebody who speaks his mind and sticks to his beliefs. i think that they also like it that he had a sense of humor and that hes with a very human person and not stuck up as i think a lot of americans think english people are very, very stuck up. so i think they like it. and also don't forget he was half american which gave him a very good half of his heritage

and not just that but he became an honorary american citizen. they love his courage and they love his humanity. >> you know duncan my hunch is that they love a guy or a person who can stand alone against everyone around them. when everyone else is wrong and they say, well damn it i'm right and they're willing to not buckle to that. because we live in a society where everybody wants to be popular and get along with everybody and they're willing to say anything if they think it's consistent with the person sitting next to them. i always sensed that your great-grant fathgrandfather was willing to walk alone. >> i think that's true. he had a long career a lot of experiences, a lot of failure, a lot of knocks along the way that shaped him. it gave him the creativity, gave him the innovation. so that when he was ready for the big trial in 1940 he felt that he had all the tools in the box to be able to do the job. >> yeah i love the fact that you mentioned that he lost all

those elections. he lost the first time he ran, he lost when he went into the government, the liberal government, then he lost three times in the '20s. the one we can never figure out in america, why did he lose in '45 if they're winning the war, then came back in '51 and got the premiership again, so that's not quitting. >> he was man shaped by all those failures. that's why people admire him in the way that they do because he had the courage to try those transformational decisions. he had the courage to pick himself up and dust himself down and move on to the next one when it failed. >> tell me edwina what's going to happen at westminster college where he gave the iron curtain speech in 1946? what's happening this weekend there? >> it's going to be very exciting because it's 50 years since my grandfather died and we have the british ambassador coming and various people and we're going to really see why my

grandfather's relevant today. my opinion is that one of the reasons he's relevant is because, apart from all the other thins s things he did he knew his history and he also knew his geography and people don't really all understand that today that they go together. and i think that he also made history right in fulton where he made the famous iron curtain speech warning the world of the danger of communism. and we thought that all this was just dusty old history 50 years ago and 25 years ago when the cold war, when the berlin wall fell down we thought it was just over. but unfortunately things that granpapa believed in and some of this is coming back again and we're getting not quite a cold war, we're getting a little coolness. >> i know. i worry too. thank you so much edwina.

thank you, duncan sands. i love the churchill family. you've been so good in carrying the torch all these years for the great man himself. up next with nine days to go to the super bowl the deflate-gate controversy is what everyone is talking about. late night comedians are no exception. >> the new england patriots were accused of deflateing their balls during games this week. the scandal has gotten so bad that bill belichick had to hold a press conference about it. here's what he had to say. >> the balls we practice with are as bad as they can be sticky cold slippery. >> that's also the most popular line from the "50 shades of grey" movie that's coming out with the same line. well let's hear what tom brady had to say. >> when i felt them they were perfect. i mean i wouldn't want anyone touching those. i would zip those things up and

lock them away until i got out on the field and had the opportunity to play with them and that's what i thought i was doing. >> zip it up, don't let anyone else touch them.

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i'm milissa rehberger. here's what's happening. the supreme court says it will take up oklahoma's legal injection protocols. three inmates say the combination is unconstitutional. the case will likely be argue you'd before the court in april with a decision expected in late june. a federal judge in alabama has struck down the state's ban on same-sex marriage. no hold was put on the ruling although the attorney general says he'll seek one. a winter storm is taking aim at the west coast with severe weather from west virginia to new england. now back to "hardball." welcome back to "hardball." we've got a big show coming up monday. one year out from the new hampshire primary for both parties. i'll be hosting a 2016 primary

special with the state's top political kingmakers and at 7:00 p.m. on monday this one coming up. now from "hardball" to a case of soft ball? tom brady denied any knowledge that footballs had been tampered with when the patriots defeated the colts for the afc championship. here he is. >> are you comfortable within yourself that nobody on sunday on the patriots side did anything wrong? >> i have no knowledge of anything. i have no knowledge of any wrong doing -- >> are you comfortable saying nobody did anything wrong? >> yes, i'm very comfortable. as far as i know. i don't know anything. i understand i was in the locker room preparing for a game. i don't know what happened over the course of the process with the footballs. i was preparing for my own job and doing what i needed to do. >> the key word there is "process," what is this process?

bill bill laelichick denied using any footballs that were low on pressure, but some say he threw his star quarterback under the bus by shifting attention to brady. >> tom's personal prerchferences on his ball -- footballs are something he can talk about in much better detail and information than i could possibly -- than i could possibly provide. i can tell you that in my entire coaching career i have never talked to any player staff member about football air pressure. that is not a subject that i have ever brought up. >> anyway the ball remains in the nfl's court as they continue to investigate the alleged cheating. today the league announced they've hired ted wells, the prominent attorney who investigated scooter libby.

the statement mr. wells and his firm bring additional expertise and an valuable independent perspective. the investigation began promptly on sunday night. over the past several days nearly 40 interviews have been conducted including the patriots personnel, game officials and third parties with relevant information and expertise. according to tom brady, they have yet to speak to the quarterback himself, which i think is a little odd. it is friday now. back with david, susan and jonathan. i don't understand. what they always do in these so-called internal investigations, they've got to buy some computer time get some office space, go out and source it out to some people. anything to kill time. you know? because everybody gets paid to do this stuff. let's stretch this baby out. i think we're going to have the super bowl next week. i think that's going to happen. months from now, when nobody's watching on a friday night, they'll do a dump and that's when we'll find out there's some sort of accident. >> well there was no accident. saying he's shocked there's gambling going on on the

premises is more credible than anything any of them said. i don't believe for a minute that neither one of them knew anything about the 12 balls were deflated. >> but he never complained because he got the ball exactly the way he likes them. >> he says he likes the ball a little bit more deflated. the nfl is a profit making venture. they want the super bowl to go on, they want people to be excited about it. they don't want this cloud hanging. >> this cloud is going to increase. >> there are 37 americans who don't turn on the super bowl are now going to turn on the super bowl. >> i'm going to watch. >> you've got to find out what information we get in the case. is this exculpatory or probative, this kind of stuff. >> it was interesting pete alexander at a press conference asked tom brady, are you a cheater? he said, i don't believe so. now, why don't you just say no. i mean -- and the fact that the nfl has not talked to him yet.

it's almost as if they're trying to keep this story alive -- >> who is that sergeant in -- >> i know nothing. >> yes. >> no one knows anything. they're going to find some ball boy somewhere who is going to be the whistleblower. >> why don't they put out their equipment managers and put them on television and interview them? >> apparently scooter libber'sylibby's lawyers are doing it now. >> so petty, the idea they were only going to win by four touchdowns over the colts. >> when you lose the game you want to make sure everybody is playing with the same deal here. i didn't know two hours before every game jonathan you're getting in here two hours before every game this is a rule. if you think it's not important, why does the nfl go in there and check the balls to make sure they're 12 point, whatever, 13 point. it's a rule. like a weigh-in for a boxing match. we can't just say this isn't

important. >> but isn't there -- as you said there's a 2 1/2-hour gap there. they checked the balls, then they disappeared. plenty of time to do whatever they want to do. >> that's what i like in the process. i love the word "process "county. brady used it over again. is the process scuffing up the balls in a way that might cause some air to come out? really scuffing up? i don't know. the spiking, he liked the spiking because that meant if the running back jams it into the ground it reduces the air and makes it easier to pass. it's harder to get distance with less air in the ball. so you think the kickoff team the safeties would say, wait a minute, this isn't what we like. >> but like the movies about the mob. there are natural causes and unnatural causes and it seems to me we've heard about some quarterbacks going out on the field with a needle you know inflatable needle in their sock so if they do it like that that's wrong.

if you throw the ball so damn hard that air comes out of it -- >> anyway speaking of alleged cheaters, new york state's top people sheldon silver, was arrested by federal officials and charged with multiple counts of corruption. prosecutors say he made $4 million off of bribes and kickbacks. here's the u.s. attorney preet preet bharrara. >> for many years people have asked the question how could speaker silver one of the most powerful men in all of new york earn millions of dollars in outside income without deeply compromising his ability to honestly serve his constituents? today we provide the answer. he didn't. >> well that's a pretty strong indictment. silver made a statement following his release on $200,000 bond. here he is. >> i'm happy the issue is coming to be aired in the legal

process, and i'm confident that when all the issues are aired, i will be vindicated. >> you know who writes those scripts, that sounds familiar. i don't know if he's guilty or not, but "the new york times" went wild today. your opposition paper at "the post." full inside page stuff. they got the word a week ago. they think he's guilty obviously. >> clearly they do. but sheldon speaker, speakilver has made it easy. there's only three people that run the government. the governor the assembly speaker and the senate majority leader. sheldon silver is the one who has been there for two decades. >> if you want to get to him and get a law passed in your favor if you're a business you would give money to him in his law practice for services rendered wouldn't be legal practices, they would be legislation. >> sure. >> but this is the issue you have in new york and other states. they consider them part-time

legislators and they're allowed to have outside jobs. one of the oldest -- longest serving members of the texas state senate is a lobbyist. so when he's not legislating, he is lobbying. >> that was the old way in congress. >> sheldon could have gotten away with this if he'd done a minimum amount of work for these law firms. >> anyway remember emmanuel seller from brooklyn? the chairman of the house judiciary committee. there were two doors to his office. one said congressman emmanuel seller the other said emmanuel seller esquire. he didn't want a district office. he wanted a law office. if you went to him for services you would go to his law office. "the new york times" also reported today that before mr. cuomo the governor disbanded the anti-corruption panel that sought to investigate the outside income of lawmakers including mr. silver sued to block that inquiry. the sudden closing led to a criminal investigation and the

circumstances of the shutdown by his office which took over the commission's cases and promised to continue its worth. the case against mr. silver xwan began in june of 2014 and was aided by the commission work. we have that wrinkle there, the shot at the governor. >> this is marvelous because sheldon silver and the other leaders of the legislature wanted this commission shut down. why? >> this. >> because it was looking at this very issue of outside income. why did cuomo shut it down? so he could cut a deal with him to get help on his legislative proposals. >> good government. >> but he shut down this corruption deal and now the u.s. attorney -- >> okay. >> it's bad for cuomo. >> i have one theory about politicians. it's always worse than it looks. because if it's better they'll tell you. the roundtable is staying with us. we'll wrap up with the winners and losers on this wild week in america. on a unique set of nutrients. that's why there's ocuvite to help protect your eye health. as you age

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>> we're back, it has been quite a week an eventful week. the republican party's abortion bill backfired and the new england patriots are in the spotlight over deflated balls and that's just the tip of the whole thing. i'm here with et round table to talk about winners and losers. tell us what you know about these events. >> winner i would say jeb bush. it's good for him if mitt romney runs and it's good for him if mitt romney doesn't run. he either gets into the establishment battle and if

mitt romney doesn't run, he has the space all to himself. loser of the week netanyahu. by accepting john bayoehner's nearly -- listen you don't go after the king unless you can kill the king. barack obama is still president of the united states. he has a lot of discretion in matters that are important to netanyahu. there is no reason for him to tick the president off and be so in his face and side with the crazy republicans. >> jonathan? >> winner of the week is president obama. his state of the union speech reminded democrats why they fell in love with him. as larry wilmore said he is doing this because he doesn't

give a blank. he was absolutely free. i have two losers. i would say governor cuomo is a loser because the res speaker casts a shadow over his governorship. the fact that we have been talking about it in the last segment and for a few weeks now i think it is a problem for him. the other loser is the g.o.p. leadership. the republican had it right when he gave that great quote that said the first week we had the speaker problem, the second week we had this -- >> 25 republicans voted against the speaker which is unheard of. >> last week they had another issue and now we're talking about abortion. we were supposed to show the

nation that we have the congress we're ready to governor better than the guy on pennsylvania avenue. and week after week after week they're showing the opposite. >> and all of this gamesmanship with netanyahu. >> i have a different take on both of those. the winner is the republican house women because they forced -- >> explain that story. >> the house republicans were going to have a bill that was go ing to outlaw abortion after 20 weeks. >> not only rape but rape brought to the attention of authorities. >> yes you had to have gone to the authorities, but for a lot of legitimate reasons women don't want to do. the republican women said you can't do this it's awful, and

they forced them to water down the bill. president obama would never sign it -- >> can i ask you an obvious question? why would the republican women think that the republican men were off base on abortion rights. just explain that pip think people need to hear it. it's not that they're different politics, it's the same politics. what's different? >> i think the whole issue with abortion and the rape exception is an idea that you could somehow only have an idea if you were victimized in some way and you didn't want to have sex. the republican women know that if a woman is raped, there will always be a question about whether she was asking for it, or had buyers remorse, or was saying the guy raped her. that's why the men are still thinking of the women as being good girls who don't have sex, or bad girls that have sex.

>> or they can't be relied on to tell the truth. >> the republican women still stillmentstill want to outlaw abortion they just -- >> you get later into the reproductive cycle, you have people much more pro life. i know what the politics of this thing are, not just the philosophy issue. who is your hero for the week -- >> no losers. >> the state expect and anyone who wants to stop iran from developing a nuclear bomb. the move they made i get what their trying to do they're trying to say you think you can do things on your own? watch us we can do the same thing. we're talking about global security. >> i think they don't care if the talks completely break down and that puts us in a position of developing a weapon that is a worse case scenario.

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that is "hardball" for now. don't miss our big show on monday. i'll be hosting in new hampshire primary discussion. more people want more taxes, more government services. >> the unofficial start to the republican season is here and the whole world is watching. we'll go live to iowa where republicans are set to collide. >> is tom brady is cheater? >> i don't believe so. >> someone was up to no good on the patriots sideline. >> plus